Open 399: Faith Plus 1 (Day Seven)

[Chrimi]

/confirm

Lol'd at kondi and shotty.

[Chrimi]

Makes sense. I got a "you can be whatever you want" role PM.

P.S. That voting block before we can really even start the game is a terrible, terrible idea. None of them are town reads, so you're just pretty much giving a bunch of random people the ability to have 5 votes instead of one, just by telling the vote block to help them. One of them could

easily

be scum, considering your list is based on who are your friends.

And of course, you left me out, which means that you don't have all of the town in there.

[Chrimi]

And yeah basically a trust circle where we get to kick people out if they're scummy and add in the townies

So, pretty much, a trust circle with no trust? xD

[Chrimi]

VOTE: kondi
Wow, zero RVS stage this game.

[Chrimi]

Haven't read past page 3 or so, but kondi, saying an idea is stupid and pointing out my opinions is scummy now?

I did not know this.

[Chrimi]

I'm a barrel of super ultra great delicious wonderful awesome fun.

That's the problem: The barrel is titanium and unopenable.

[Chrimi]

Also: If you act scummy, and somebody attacks you and says that it's scummy, that doesn't make them scummy

And kondi, all I remember from our previous game is that I hated you with a passion.

Nothing personal, I hate most people with a passion.

[Chrimi]

And lol

drmyshotgun and Om <3

[Chrimi]

Nothing, my previous points that I had made were never defused with anything but "It was a reaction test and because you reacted by voting something scummy you must be scum!"

So you can see why there's nothing to really say besides keep my vote on.

[Chrimi]

Chrimi: I'm suspicious of him because he also hadn't said much but he's said more than the lurkers just now. Reminds me of my other game with him

The one that we were masons together?

So my meta is reading town and so you're suspicious of me, is that how it is?

[Chrimi]

Sigh, kassadin is just a place-holder, just sits in a spot a player would normally sit.

Instead there's this black hole that sucks in everybody else's points and posts them again.... And that's when it posts

at all

.



P-Edit: @Darkling Ah I see. That makes more sense.

And I'm not trying to be quiet, it's near the end of the week you see and I'm longing for weekend...

P-P-Edit: @Om Care to explain those three scumreads?

[Chrimi]

Wow, Kass. I'm truthfully impressed you read through the thread this time. Good work.

UNVOTE:

He didn't.

Believe me, he found a way not to.

[Chrimi]

And the fact that kass posted more than 1-3 lines is outside of his town meta xD

[Chrimi]

He's been decieving everybody every game he's played, as town so far that I've seen. He could post more but he chooses to troll >.>

[Chrimi]

Lol im really keen for a MattP lynch right now lol
oh well
I skim read this thread lol

Knew it.

[Chrimi]

Please don't tell me you're serious...

[Chrimi]

What do you have to base on that those players are town?

Where are you getting these sources of info...?

P-edit: No, I was asking if they were serious about considering the block.

[Chrimi]

That wasn't vague

[/sarcasm]

[Chrimi]

So... Many... Posts...
You guys are killing me.

P.edit: Chrimi is just sore because he was left out XD

This is probably true.

HUEHUEHUE, STILL AT THE TOP OF THE POST COUNT!

After seeing Om as his caps, I feel like puking...

Also interesting thing of note, Chrimi has placed RVS on Kondi and it just stayed there. He didn't get a new suspect, didn't find more scummy things from Kondi, and yet its staying there..?

It wasn't RVS? I had voted him because of his voting bloc idea which was terribly scummy. When people said it was scummy, he pretended as if it was a reaction test instead of defending it. Also, I get huge gut reads you and him are scumbuddies. Nothing personal.

SCUM

BK
The guy with the Vader avatar
Trollie
Chrimi
maaaaaybe shotgun

NULL

Psyche
Chrimi
morton

What changed? I haven't posted at all.

[Chrimi]

50% chance one is odd one is even
50% chance of succession

25% chance they're both odd
In which case, 100% chance of failure

25% chance they're both even
In which case, 100% chance of failure because of NK.

So, pretty much, we have a 50% chance that the faith healers will protect the cop who claimed so suddenly.

That is, if the faith healers even listen...

[Chrimi]

Correction: Make that 25%.

[Chrimi]

Love it. Chrimi sounds like scum trying to test the chances of a successful shotgun kill. Shotgun snap out of it. Get your head in the game. Stop sulking.

Wrong, but nice try.

Trying to get the faith healers to understand that there's only a 25% chance that he'll survive, but they

need to take it

.

[Chrimi]

Hmm.

Not bad at all.

Would a faith healer care to claim?

And vijay, if somebody fake claims then all a real faith healer has to do is counter claim *shrug*

Then based on the fake claim's role, we can determine wether the counter claimer was legit, and therefore he would still be protected.

[Chrimi]

But, then that faith healer that claimed also has a 50% chance of survival.

So it would put you up 25%, but them down 50%.

I don't think we want a higher amount of chance for a PR to be lynched.

[Chrimi]

Yes but listen.

You go from 25% chance to 50% chance.

The healer that claimed so the other healer heals him instead of you goes from 100% chance down to 50% chance.

That's 25% more chance that one of our PR's will be lynched.

[Chrimi]

It's fine, it would be best though to go for the 25% of your survival than 50% and 50% of another PR's survival.

And yeah, that claim did seem kinda out of place. You should relax a little shotgun. Here, have some coffee

Anyways, to my favorite player, just be more careful and look at more possibilities next time.

Faith healers: Neither of you claim, we don't want scum knowing who another of my faith healer is.

P-edit: Lol vijay.

[Chrimi]

So me telling the faith healers not to claim is rolefishing?

:S

[Chrimi]

There are two Faith Healers. How will they know one is fake-claiming?

Ohhh, I didn't think about that...

That's another reason why the faith healer's shouldn't claim, cause the scum could misclaim and the other one wouldn't know if they were or weren't...

So yeah, FH's, don't claim.

[Chrimi]

If I was rolefishing, I wouldn't have switched

before

you said something about it.

I switched because I realized the dangers.

And I guess you're right about my percentages being wrong. But then the mafia would know two of our PR's after the first day. It would be hurtful to town.

*still doesn't understand vijay's vote...*

[Chrimi]

So yeah, FH's, don't claim.

Faith healers: Neither of you claim, we don't want scum knowing who another of my faith healer is.

Kass... *facepalm*

[Chrimi]

No, I said it

before

.

[Chrimi]

But, then that faith healer that claimed also has a 50% chance of survival.

So it would put you up 25%, but them down 50%.

I don't think we want a higher amount of chance for a PR to be lynched.

Oh God Chrimi. Role-fishing like hell, considering shooting our PR, what next? There are two Faith Healers. How will they know one is fake-claiming?

VOTE: Chrimi

Come to think of it, his comment about all the town not being in the bloc was kinda weird. With a 5p bloc not all town would have been on anyway. But even if you ignore that, he's done an absolutely brilliant job in his last two posts.

P.edit: shotgun that's twice.

P.p.edit: he isn't talking about that. He's talking about the fact that scum could fakeclaim and we have no way to check, so it's a moot point anyway.

P.p.p.edit: fuck me, let me post bastards.

Notice the post numbers.

[Chrimi]

Anyways~

Darkling is town.

[Chrimi]

On what grounds?

[Chrimi]

In order to catch scum, I will now claim.

I AM FH.

Either Vijay or Psyche is lying.

KILL THEM WITH FUCKING FIRE, OKAYYYY?!

[Chrimi]

That's right, I'm one of the fucking FH's, at that means that we've caught a scum: Vijay or Psyche.

VOTE: Vijay

For pulling me out of my fucking hole.

[Chrimi]

You guys post so damn fast, as soon as I saw the part where vijay claimed I posted this. Fucking scumbag.

[Chrimi]

Vijay IS NOT TOWN.

Kondi is Vijay's SCUMBUDDY.

Kondi was earlier trying to get a massclaim, and now vijay got the other FH to claim. He's trying to get the fake FH to 'protect' shotgun that way they can lynch him.

Psyche,

DO NOT LISTEN TO THEM

. You protect shotgun, I'll protect you. They'll probably kill me because that's the 100% chance of killing a PR.

Got it? I'm fine with dying first day, just

please

kill kondi and vijay.


THERE WAS A FUCKING HAMMER FUCK...
You gust post too damn fast I didn't see it! Fuck...

And Psyche gets major scumpoints for claiming thinking the real two wouldn't, but I'm sticking with Vijay.


And kondi, I had no reason to fucking claim because I didn't see a hammer because you

fucking assholes

post too damn much! Nobody waited for what I thought on the lynch, I've only been gone for a day D:

[Chrimi]

Alright, reading the pages I missed.

I've realized:

Psyche claimed first for previous states reasons to make the FH's fail at protecting. Vijay thought it best to claim to keep the fakeclaiming out. I wasn't here, otherwise I also would have claimed then.

Kondi is not scum; Vijay is town; Psyche is scum.

Simple.
Also, my vote on vijay above was a fail cause I didn't see the hammer until now.

P-edit: I did read those, what the fuck are you talking about...?

[Chrimi]

Yes, kondi is making sense.

Vijay, protect shotgun. I will protect you, and psyche will try to make an NK with his buddy like a scumbag should.

BK, Vijay+Kondi scum does make sense

but it just isn't the case

.

What would I get out of claiming at this point in the game...? I can't see how this would help scum

at all

.

Kassadin, I DIDN'T SEE THE HAMMER. I should've read it all, but as soon as I saw vijay's claim I knew two people had claimed FH and thought for sure that one of them was scum (duh). I should have read, my bad.

[Chrimi]

It's amazing how this whole logic thing works out.

I'm more willing to bet Vijay is scum than Chrimi. Chrimi's claim seems more legit.

[sarcasm]This isn't a scum post

at all

.[/sarcasm]

[Chrimi]

Neither is the one above my post [/sarcasm]

[Chrimi]

Lol, of course I'm fine getting scanned.
WHEN YOU SCAN ME AND YOU FIND OUT I'M TOWN, KILL TEH PYSCHE.

[Chrimi]

Goddamn it. Guys, I've worked so hard to build the capital necessary to ensure a strong N1. Are guys seriously still doubting my Townhood? After all of this?

DUH, YES.

The way you claimed made it so the FH's would both think they were the 'other' FH's, and ensure that the cop wasn't protected for an NK. The next day you could say "Damn looks like I'm unlucky" Or some shit. When vijay claimed, it was to make things simple so that the real other FH could also claim if there was one, therefore putting fake claiming out of the picture.

This makes Psyche scum, Vijay town.

But, Vijay could've claimed just to get the other FH to come out of his hiding.

So it really could be either one.

I still think Psyche is more likely...

[Chrimi]

Sounds like a plan.

*sigh* I hope vijay doesn't end up being the scum >.> Cause I feel very trusty towards him right now.

But the timing of his claim could be either scum or town... Damn, it's so hard to tell if he was pulling out the other FH or if he was actually doing it to put fakeclaiming not possible.

ack, I just wish you guys didn't post so fast...

BK, I'd need to protect either Psyche or Vijay so they'd be safe. I just can't tell which one is town and which one is scum...

A kondi Vijay is very possible, and I can see vijay doing everything so far as scum. I just.. Can't tell.

If I decide on one, I won't be telling as to make it harder for the scum.

[Chrimi]

Lolk.

[Chrimi]

If only I had time to claim before the day end...

I'll protect either Psyche or Vijay. Whichever one of you is

real

, protect shotty. Shotty, scan vijay or psyche. We lynch based on what you scan.

If our 50% chance of protection fails, day 2 will be fucked over.

P-edit: Bah, pretty much saying the same thing as me D:

[Chrimi]

Well, that's good.

On the high chance that I get killed tonight, it means the cop survives and well... You guys know what to do.

If vijay ends up scum, his buddy is obv. kondi.

GG in advance.

[Chrimi]

No, Kondi.

Scan vijay, when it says he's town then only you will have a problem kondi.
If it says he's scum, then we'll have the scum (And you his partner).

So it would actually be best to scan vijay.

[Chrimi]

Yep. If he scans Vijay, and he's town, we know Psyche is scum. If we scan Psyche, and he's town, we know Vijay is scum.

P-edit: I agree with BK. If he scans Psyche, that means that you can still find a way to push it onto me and off of your scumbuddy.

[Chrimi]

So:

drmyshotgun, please, for the love of god, scan vijay <3

Kondi, you do have a point there though. If I die tonight, then it's easy to know which is scum.

Kondi, if a scan between vijay and psyche doesn't matter to us, and if I die tonight, why does it matter to you....? Oh WAIT. I won't die tonight because YOU'RE THE SCUM. You'll keep me alive so you can push the scumminess off of Vijay onto me.

Yep, Vijay+Kondi scumteam.

Om, are you serious? When they flip we know their role, and it wouldn't be a waste. If he investigates vijay, and he gets killed, and he's the FH, then we know it's Psyche.

Kondi, no.

drmyshotgun, once again, scan vijay. If he SOMEHOW ends up town, lynch Psyche.
I don't expect him to show up town, though.

[Chrimi]

You can't be sure Chrimi will die tonight. Scum could easily leave him alive so he looks scummy, and they could take the coin toss on our cop.

Pretty much what I said / meant.

Vijay + Kondi

scumteam

, tomorrow we lynch vijay when drmyshotgun scans and he ends up scum. After that, we lynch kondi.

Town, we win

P-edit: If vijay turns up town, then we lynch Psyche, nothing to be sorry about.

[Chrimi]

If you lynch the three claimed FH's in the order: Vijay, Psyche, Chrimi; One is obviously going to be scum. You won't lose the game if I am scum.

Also, if I was scum, who would be my buddy...?

P-edit: Om, we don't know who they'll lynch. Besides, we'll get the same info and that will be fine, because we'll know who one of the scum is. If he investigates Vijay and vijay gets NK'd, then we know Psyche is scum.

Yes kondi, except he won't be turning town.

[Chrimi]

Kondi, reading through the pages I didn't read. And thinking more.

Fuck, that post of vijays was too damn towny...

Damnit. You guys are hurting my brain, who to protect D:

[Chrimi]

Woah woah woah.

That's not a bad idea. If you all think I'm town, then it guarantees shotty has a 50% of survival.

Well then, other FH protect me and we're safe.

I like the idea.

[Chrimi]

I love these kind of situations, makes the game interesting xD

Alright then, scum won't take the risk of killing whichever is the other real FH because they know that will confirm them as scum.

[Chrimi]

Soul Eater <3

And yes. Psyche won't die because so many people unsure of him. Vijay won't die because he's scum. I have a 50% chance of survival, as does drmyshotgun. If they're going to go after somebody with 50%, they might as well go after the cop, so I'm not dying. Ta-da!

Kondi, of course he's looking town. Don't worry though, I can see your bussing

I am very optimistic about this game. We have one of the scum between me, psyche, and vijay (guessing vijay), and we know that if it's vijay his partner is most likely kondi.

I'm pretty sure we're going to win this.

[Chrimi]

And yes, I'll be on 24/7 staring at the screen waiting for day,

[Chrimi]

Still pretty secure, as if you aren't scum then Vijay isn't. If vijay isn't then psyche is. We should be able to tell his partner from there.

[Chrimi]

Lol @ Psyche.

I personally can see huge scum motivation at claiming now just to get some PR's lynched and confuse the shit out of everybody, but sadly I didn't see the hammer. Otherwise I would've waited till tomorrow >.>

Which is probably the point scum is going to make tomorrow on me.

P-edit: LOL @ PSYCHE AGAIN XD

[Chrimi]

No, Vijay, you don't protect shotgun.

You or Psyche protect me if you are somehow the FH.
I protect shotgun.

Are you not reading what we're saying?

If you do this wrong and we're both FH then drmyshotgun has no chance of survival if we are.

[Chrimi]

...

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING.

My mind is already a pile of shit, WHAT HAVE YOU DONE.

Fuck, Kondi HAS TO BE SCUM.

[Chrimi]

This is going to make me protect drmyshotgun and other protect kondi, which will leave us both open !!!!

KILL. THE. KONDISCUM.

[Chrimi]

I wasn't kondi, I'm too fucking scared and messed up in the head right now >.>

Kondi still scum >.> With vijay >.> Not cause of the joke >.>

P-edit: Dude, a FH who is trying to protect the cop and find out which of the other two who have claimed is the real one, AND THEN TO HAVE SOMEONE ELSE CLAIM COP

Scared me shitless.

[Chrimi]

Not to me and the other FH who for a second there had no fucking clue what to do D:

P-edit: @ Kondi

[Chrimi]

No, gunny

needs

to investigate Vijay or Psyche! I HAVE TO KNOW WHICH ONE IS LYING!!!!

[Chrimi]

Hmm.

Psyche's won me over.

Vijay is the other scum. Go ahead and investigate whoever, shotty.

I still just would kill myself if I'm wrong >.> It would clear this huge problem up so much faster if he scanned psyche or vijay, because my curiosity is eating away at my stomach D:

And oh, I see what you mean Om. Then yes, I agree. Scan Psyche or Vijay, then tell me so I can give the real FH big hugs <3

Stopped, stopped stopped okay I'm sowwy <3 <3 <3

[Chrimi]

Lol @ kondi.

Don't add me in there, I hate you HATE YOU HATE YOU HATE YOU. [/kidding]

Anyways, Om, no matter how wifomy it is, I want as much info as I can get no matter what it is cause tomorrow I can already tell is going to be so fucking crazy, I want as much normal-ish stuff I can get.

BK, Om already got the cookies. I was typing a long post otherwise I would've got it >.>

[Chrimi]

Oh. Something interesting. You should've said so sooner.

Shutting up now.

BK, NO AWESOMENESS POINTS FOR YOU. ANIME SUCKS, MANGA SOUL EATER <3 <3 <3

[Chrimi]

I've never seen the anime, but I can promise you the manga is much better.

Blair <3

*Ahem* Oh that's right I'm supposed to shut up.

Btw, om is scum if vijay and Kondi aren't. Partner is (obviously) Psyche.

[Chrimi]

Psyche or Vijay.

Don't post which one you're going to investigate.

I'm protecting you tonight <3

[Chrimi]

Also: Discard my last (Om scum) post.

And of course I am drmyshotgun <3

[Chrimi]

Nobody else better to trust than me, right drmyshotgun? xD

I can finally be helpful to him

[Chrimi]

*yawn* Long twilight, long night, which means long wait. Eck, the pain...

Goodnight guys.

[Chrimi]

Lol, I just realized there are more than two scum in this game. *facepalm*

Well then, now to determine who vijay and kondi's scum partner might be... I'm guessing Om or dark, IDK tho.

[Chrimi]

So what you're saying is Vijay is obv town and I'm less town than psyche? So pretty much you think I'm scum?

Well, have fun convincing shotgun of that.

[Chrimi]

NO MORE SPECULATION

[Chrimi]

MattP, what would I as scum get form this

Psyche would get the fact that the real two FH's think he's the other one and therefore nobody would protect shotty and leave him open for an NK.
If Psyche was town, then Vijay claimed to get the other FH out of hiding.
I would get nothing as scum from claiming.

No Matt, we don't PL Om tomorrow *facepalm*

Go read the convo we just had, please?!

[Chrimi]

Om.

STFU, seriously

Anyways, I see they both have scummy reasons to claim.

However

, after the claim Psyche seems to read much more town to me than Vijay.

P-edit: Or you could tell him, since he asked, you know.

[Chrimi]

He would not only be making town thing he's conf, he would draw out the last FH and yeah.
Although, I guess Psyche's scummy possible reason is a lot more scummy than that...

IDK, just investigate pysche or vijay and we'll have the answer. The answer will be tomorrow, and I shall decide then.

Until then, Om, stfu or tell us.

[Chrimi]

Well...

If he did, it would mean scum knows all 3 of our PR's, and we only know one.

[Chrimi]

True.

Which is the original reason why I thought Psyche was scum.

But what he is posting during twilight just comes off as way too towny to me.

MattP, what would I get out of claiming...?

[Chrimi]

Post.

[Chrimi]

Vijay what you did there was so sacrificial and beneficial to the town... I love you now.

And shotty is safe! I was successful

[Chrimi]

Vijay what you did there was so sacrificial and beneficial to the town... I love you now.

And shotty is safe! I was successful

Tell me. What beneficial thing did Vijay do?

Fake claimed to give scum a chance of killing him instead of me or you.

If I hadn't claimed, it would have kept me in the shadows and yeah...

Anyways, can't post much I'm not home yet....

[Chrimi]

No hammers till I'm home to look it over, k? In fact, intent to hammer, so no quick hammers.

Pedit: no psyche, him chain sawing vijay makes him town in my eyes.

Ppedit: >.>

[Chrimi]

If your town, ur being completely anti town. If you are town, unvote yourself.

[Chrimi]

Well, he claimed mafia.

VOTE: Venmar

Same night actions as last night? Except that would probably result in psyche dying.... vice versa then perhaps? I think Psyche would do better in a lylo situation than me.

P-Edit: Damn, beat me to the hammer. Even if it wasn't, now it is >.>

[Chrimi]

Not one short...

That was the hammer.

[Chrimi]

-.-

I thought he made me his personal doc >.>

Scan Kondi, please.

[Chrimi]

Kk.

And I will choose to protect Psyche or myself. That way scum won't be positive about killing me... :3

[Chrimi]

And venmar, the second someone votes the seventh vote it's a lynch. Even though you unvoted, you were dead already.

kondi, then they know they have a definite PR kill on me >.> Please shut up before we lynch you tomorrow >.>

[Chrimi]

P-edit: Thinking the same thing, shotty xD

PP-edit: No clue just yet. Maybe venmar when he flips scum?

PPP-edit: True, those two are nowhere to be seen....

[Chrimi]

Om, Kondi, Venmar scumteam?

[Chrimi]

We had him connected with Vijay. He's town, though.

[Chrimi]

You're good at buddying townies, what can I say.

Also, I wanted to see your reaction. Seems it's not Om. Trollie, you, and Venmar then?

[Chrimi]

Props to MattP.

Yes, you may talk during twilight.

[Chrimi]

Getting to know shotgun is on my side in a game is nice.

[Chrimi]

Venmar, you actually responded very well to pressure on you. It was your slips, not reactions to tunneling, that did you in. So, you actually played a nice game for a new player.

This.

And yay

[Chrimi]

I'll give that turtle a cookie if he tells me who his buddies are ^.^

[Chrimi]

The kind that mafia turtles like.

[Chrimi]

Don't worry, it's 100% plant for you omnivore :3

[Chrimi]

Of course nobody is going to take that seriously.

No cookies for lying!

[Chrimi]

Lol'd.

[Chrimi]

Dear lord, Om you're slow. We already proposed that >.>

[Chrimi]

Lol, nice catch Om.

I say cop investigates Om, if he's town then we follow his suspicions? Or investigate vijay. Either way.

[Chrimi]

EBWOP: Not Vijay, Trollie***

[Chrimi]

Me or Trollie. No exceptions.

xD

[Chrimi]

So I protect Shotty? Kewl

[Chrimi]

Lol.

VOTE: Trollie

[Chrimi]

Psyche, it would be best if we protect eachother.

VOTE: Kass

[Chrimi]

Shotty, I'm sowwy <3

Damnit, my protect failed D:

[Chrimi]

I'll add to that.

Darkling just gave himself away as fucking scum, damnit!

Tomorrow, we kill him.

PSYCHE, YOU BETTER FUCKING PROTECT ME TONIGHT >.>

[Chrimi]

You guys are lucky! drmyshotgun, the

Town Cop

, is dead.

Lucky...

-.-

Edit: Fixed tags. That's allowed, right? :S

Mod Edit: I'll be nice and not modkill you.

[Chrimi]

Bah Post:

Wait I'm not even in this game!

[Chrimi]

I nominate Vjay for best town gambit.

I second this.