The game of the year: town won!

[Zajnet]

Sorry about my absence during Day 1, my car broke down and I got stranded a couple hundred miles from my computer, but its all good because I couch surfed and partied with friends old and new.

Anywho, I skimmed Day 1 and iso'd the mod, so I know the gist of what happened. Chesskid got lynched, Kairyuu lolpwned the mimes, some more VTs got lynched.

Apparently elli claimed some sort of daykiller role or something, but I really have no idea what's up with that.

I need to read better to figure out who all I want to lynch today, but I'll start with:

VOTE: Hoopla for this:

What...

Only one death? Strange.

[Zajnet]

VOTE: Hoopla for this:

What...

Only one death? Strange.

You know I'm not a newbie, right? I kinda know that tell already.

I know you're not a newbie, and I know you know that tell, but knowledge of a tell does not prevent one from committing it.

Once I get a chance to read D1 better, I might change my vote. But for now, that's the best thing I have to go on.

[Zajnet]

a T-bone flip would tell us more than any arguably any other flip right now.

Why?

[Zajnet]

I know you're not a newbie, and I know you know that tell, but knowledge of a tell does not prevent one from committing it.

So, the insatiable urge to feign surprise as scum was so great that it eclipsed my knowledge of this tell.

Not quite. It is more psychologically rewarding to post that as scum than as town, whether it was a surprise to you or not. And the fact that you know about the tell could mean that you feel safe committing it because you could just say, "well I know about that tell so why would I do it?"

a T-bone flip would tell us more than any arguably any other flip right now.

Why?

Are you serious?

Quite. Obviously, the mere fact that T-bone is being wagoned will provide information when he flips, but I don't know if I'm missing something from the large part of D1 that I didn't read that will provide additional information on his flip.

[Zajnet]

UNVOTE: Hoopla

Your #1456 is setting off all sorts of scumdar alarm bells for me, which of course means that you're town.

[Zajnet]

BBmolla, seriously, don't say GOODPOSTING at me with your vote on me. You're being ridiculous.

QFT, to the point where I'm going to:

VOTE: BBmolla

He started piquing my interest with the weird lyncher thing. Think about it from this point of view:

A townie claiming that the game is now over might draw out scum claims, or he might draw out town claims.

However, a scum claiming that the game is now over would only draw out town claims (or potentially another scumteam's claims) because his scum partners would know he was lying.

[Zajnet]

VOTE: spyrex

if he flips town, kondi's next.

[Zajnet]

I will not be voting for SpyreX.

Would you rather lynch kondi first? One of them is probably scum...

[Zajnet]

Yes, I'm pretty sure kondi is scum.

Vote: kondi

Ok.

UNVOTE: spyrex

VOTE: kondi

Same as last time, if kondi flips town, I'm voting spyrex.

[Zajnet]

Apathy is going to eat this game if it doesn't become immediately clear that apathy = death.

I will shamelessly sheep all of your reads if you flip town, based 100% on this part of your post.

You still need to die though, unfortunately. Otherwise I will never forgive myself if you're scum.

Jesus Christ. This seems incredibly disingenuous. It's like you're buddying with him, in case he flips town, and setting up a rationale to not be held accountable for your vote.

QFT, I'll be looking at UN more closely if Spyrex flips town.

[Zajnet]

why is there so many people self-voting. it is almost always against your win con. you shouldn't be able to gain town-cred by self-voting.

but the sad truth is that

scums are much less likely to self-vote than town

, so i think both kondi and lowman is town.

not true.

[Zajnet]

We need to lynch kondi and get on with it. People keep getting distracted by other wagons. I wonder why...

[Zajnet]

Kondi's selfvote AtE is hilarious.

QFT

I would rather kondi die than red.

[Zajnet]

Anyone who tries to vote kondi at this point is obvious scum.

Even though I'm already voting kondi, I'm going to

UNVOTE: ,VOTE: kondi

[Zajnet]

The problem that I have with that list is that I'm on it and I'm not lurking, I'm just only posting when I see something worth posting about.

On another note: our only (basically) confirmed townie apparently site-flaking is really, really annoying.

We should still lynch kondi, by the way.

[Zajnet]

areyoufuckingkiddingme

right there with you...

right.

there.

with.

you.

[Zajnet]

VOTE: kondi

[Zajnet]

We've had 2 days of listening to you scum/idiots lynch kondi

QFT

Day 3 15 dead not good enough /q/qqq/q/q/qqqq

also QFT

[Zajnet]

Just because I don't have 100+ posts doesn't mean I should be lynched for lurking. Anyone who's ever played with me before knows that I get more active as the game goes on, and that will be especially true in a game this massive.

I'll be voting for kondi until either he or I gets lynched or otherwise killed, and if its me then good luck because the rest of the town will need it with their heads that far up their asses.

[Zajnet]

I'm inclined to agree with funkybike. As the game progresses, more things will come out into the open and the voting bloc will be refined.

[Zajnet]

CALLED IT

(a long time ago)

Quote or it didn't happen.

Can we please lynch this scumbag already?

[Zajnet]

I'm pretty sure it's easy to find where I was voting Fritzler in my ISO.

I forgot that you were Muffin Wednesday at first.

Your basis for finding fritz scummy seemed to be that you thought he was a mime and then you thought that he and redFF are scumbuddies. Still, you don't really get the "I told you so" credit when you were voting for him over 1000 posts ago and you weren't even on the wagon that lynched him.

[Zajnet]

just checked and sydedoc looks like he may have site-flaked like kairyuu, which means lynching him is kind of an unfortunate inevitability but i can see why people might want to go elsewhere for now (we need to hit him before we drop below 20 players, though)

i can't read fritzler. he's acting stipud, but not scummy.

vote: fritzler

okay yeah w/e let's get this guy


UNVOTE:
VOTE: manho

obv bus is obvious enough to draw my vote off of kondi for a while.

UNVOTE: kondi,VOTE: manho

[Zajnet]

This game... lol

QFT

[Zajnet]

And that's the most scum motivated statement I've ever seen. You're lurking because someone told you the town wouldn't care. Yeah. Scum much?

Exactly what I was thinking.

I still think kondi is scum, but since nobody else save redFF is interested in lynching him...

VOTE: zoraster

[Zajnet]

the MOD said that when we signed up.

The point still stands...

[Zajnet]

Meh. I remember seeing it work somewhere before.

I've also seen it horribly backfire.

Like when it was done to me when I replaced into Reck's Batman game, and I almost got lynched for it because my predecessor claimed strangely. Y'know, where I was the Town Vig that fired the game winning shot a night or two later.

Anyways, I don't like either of the current bigger wagons, but I also don't really want to lynch zoraster anymore now that I think about it better.

UNVOTE: zoraster

VOTE: NS

@UN: Why do you consider it scummier to park your vote on someone who isn't likely to get lynched as opposed to not voting at all?

[Zajnet]

zoraster's town. In both AFFC and WIH3, he was busy complaining that players weren't playing the setup "properly", i.e. fitting in with the theme rather than with the optimal town strategy; that's not happening here, even though arguably we aren't (I'd expect zoraster to want to push a bunch of crazy policy lynches in a 50-player game).

So I think he's being reasonably unselfish here. From zoraster, that's a towntell.

This post is what changed my mind on zoraster.

[Zajnet]

Sheep me lest I slay thee.

Bahahahaha, no.

[Zajnet]

@Zaj- I liked you Zoraster vote better.

I might be persuaded to vote for him again if a wagon ever forms, but NS is more likely to be scum imo.

[Zajnet]

This game just gets better and better...

[Zajnet]

Do we get 3 lynches today or two? We have 31 alive right now (3 lynches), but after two lynches, we'll have 29 alive (2 lynches).

[Zajnet]

CALLED IT

(a long time ago)

He takes credit for the fritzler lynch when he wasn't even part of the wagon.

and then he takes credit for the ns lynch

In fact, I was the first one to want NS dead.

when he was like the 5th person on the lynch wagon.


Why do this unless he's scum trying to get fake town cred.

Because he's arrogant.

[Zajnet]

I was calling for both of their lynches much earlier in the game. That's a fact.

Zajnet, I don't understand your hate of me.

I don't hate you. I'm actually quite indifferent to you. I'm just saying that you're not trying to fake town cred, you're just arrogant. That's not even necessarily a bad thing...

[Zajnet]

Not meant in that context. I don't understand why you think I'm scummy.

I don't, anymore.

[Zajnet]

Vote Count

• callforjudgement (2)
  : Amrun petapan
  
• kondi2424 (2)
  : DeltaWave redFF
  
• BBmolla (1)
  : callforjudgement
  
• dramonic (1)
  : funkybike1
  
• funkybike1 (1)
  : Trevor
  
• Not voting:
  BBmolla Chevre Chronopie dramonic Ellibereth Elmo TeH AzN Hoopla Jackal711 Mastermind of Sin MattP kondi2424 Nobody Special PeregrineV SleepyKrew SpyreX Staeg sykedoc syndromeofadown TeChNoWC theamatuer TheTrollie UberNinja YYR Zajnet Zdenek zoraster

With 33 alive it is 10 to lynch.

There are 31 alive. Nobody Special is dead, as is MattP.

[Zajnet]

VOTE: callforjudgement

[Zajnet]

Fuck yeah.

So was cfj's vote on BBmolla a bus or a deflection?

[Zajnet]

I'm willing to lynch Hoopla or funkybike right now, but not MoS or BBMolla. I have little to no opinion on the other potential lynches currently being discussed.

[Zajnet]

Why not MoS?

I don't think he's scum. Don't ask me why because I'm not going to elaborate right now.

[Zajnet]

VOTE: Hoopla

[Zajnet]

VOTE: funkybike1

[Zajnet]

Well, I know him, and he's an extremely capable player. I trust that he'd get off his ass in LyLo.

I trust that he'll get off of his ass a ways before LyLo, so I don't think we should lynch him now or anytime soon. I also think he's town.

Funkybike is a much better lynch.

[Zajnet]

i'll hammer dramoic if he gets put at L-1

Why not just vote for him?

[Zajnet]

Funkybike would be a much better lynch than draconic. Just saying.

I agree, but dramonic is lurking hard, so he's no real loss.

Funkybike should go next though.

[Zajnet]

:'(

[Zajnet]

I'm ok with lynching sykedoc, funkybike1, or tech.

VOTE: funkybike1

I'll switch to sykedoc if his wagon gets more momentum before funky's.

[Zajnet]

Without Amrun, this game isn't as fun anymore.

[Zajnet]

I'm offended you put me on the same list as YYR/zoraster/elmo/trollie

Why, because you have a few more posts than them?

I forgot you were in this game just like everyone else on that list, apparently so did redFF. That means you're not posting enough.

[Zajnet]

UNVOTE: ,VOTE: sykedoc

L-2

[Zajnet]

should be sheeping me instead

Hah.

[Zajnet]

VOTE: PeregrineV

[Zajnet]

BBmolla needs to die. Yes, he may somehow be town, but he really just needs to die. Too much wifom if left alive.

VOTE: BBmolla

funky needs to die also, but BBmolla needs to die sooner.

[Zajnet]

BBmolla needs to die. Yes, he may somehow be town, but he really just needs to die. Too much wifom if left alive.

VOTE: BBmolla

funky needs to die also, but BBmolla needs to die sooner.

Just night kill him if you want him dead.

I really don't understand why you think I'm scum.

You literally have not given one reason all game, and I had Amrun calling me town earlier. I don't know about you, but I generally trust Amrun's reads when she's town.

[Zajnet]

BB has a chance to explain his shit.

Not really, any way you look at it he needs to die before LyLo, no matter what excuse he comes up with.

I would be willing to lynch funkybike first though, as long as we lynch BBmolla next.

[Zajnet]

I'm still down with a funkybike1 lynch.

[Zajnet]

EBWODP:

VOTE: funkybike1

[Zajnet]

I don't think that we should lynch MoS or elli today.

BBMolla still needs to die for that fail yesterday.

[Zajnet]

peta, what makes you suspicious of zajnet? That he wants a BB PL lynch?

[Zajnet]

This is stupid. Lynch funkybike. We can deal with DW later. Making him claim his potential partners is pointless because it doesn't actually help with PoE, but it does tell the scum who they are.

[Zajnet]

Zoraster's still alive?

VOTE: zoraster

Feel free to shoot him if you get lynched, DW.

[Zajnet]

Anyone willing to go to SKrew? I'm not feeling FB1 anymore.

Vote: SKrew

Delta, I assume the angels have one shot per player? Correct me if I am wrong.

He just strongly implied that he has another shot.

SKrew hasn't done much lately, so yeah, I could be down to lynch him. He's on the list with Zoraster of people that can't make it to LyLo.

[Zajnet]

Let me state some things.
1. there definitely exists 2 or more angels(including DW)
2. The angels arent all scum. So it's either an effective neighborhood, or an entirely different party.
3. Each angel has 1 shot in all cases except for a 2 person group. This is because of balance.
4. The 2nd party is viable, because of DW stating to protect the angels NO MATTER WHAT. This states a complete refusal to read other angels at all (which is blatantly anti-town IMO), and hinting that they already know each others alignment.

Basing anything on a multiball w/o flips is stupid though. If an angel flips that is town (or scum), DW is town IMO.

I agree with this.

So, are we going to quit jerking around and lynch someone? Running DW up to test if he has partner(s) is stupid. They'll come out eventually, there is no need to have them come out now or waste their abilities this early in the game.

By the way, DW is claiming that he has another shot and that he will use that shot to save himself, but he can't based on what Kairyuu said.

It would also auto-fail if I used it on myself.

My guess is that DW's partner (or one of his partners) would save him. This has no bearing on his alignment, and I still think we shouldn't try to lynch him. If we get to LyLo and he has no partners, we lynch him. It's literally that simple.

[Zajnet]

VOTE: SKrew

[Zajnet]

Assuming that DW doesn't just die (that would be funny), then this was a stupid waste of time, energy, and one of the angels' redirects, and we need to start lynching from the people who just said "fuck scumhunting let's just lynch delta."

I really don't understand why funky never got lynched. Damn near everyone in the game has said at one point or another that we should lynch him (or at least it feels that way), yet the wagon never made it.

[Zajnet]

Dumb motherfuckers, unvote MoS now.

You made me waste my fucking shot saving DW, now I don't have one left to save MoS, and he can't save himself.

[Zajnet]

Neighbors, but I really don't think any of us are scum.

[Zajnet]

Sorry about the language in my previous post, I've been having a really shitty day and I'm pissed that y'all decided to lynch DW, a confirmed PR and one of the towniest people in the game.

[Zajnet]

Sorry for the triple post, but I wanted to say something.

I made the final decision to shoot Trevor. I had a suspicion that he may be scum, and I knew that he wasn't going to get lynched if he was. FWIW, DW wanted me to shoot Staeg.

Me, MoS, and DW are the only Angels. We each have one shot, so MoS is the only one with a shot left.

Can we get back to lynching scum, please? We were doing so well for a while.

VOTE: funkybike

[Zajnet]

I had a suspicion that he may be scum, and I knew that he wasn't going to get lynched if he was.

[Zajnet]

Quicklynch all the angels now.

Fuck off.

[Zajnet]

zaj
summarize what kai's first posts in your qt said.

His first post says that he's town and that we should assume that all three of us are town because we're most likely all town. He also says that we should all agree on each shot that we make, because between that and the assumption that we're all town, it removes the drawbacks of a neighborhood.

His next couple of posts say that he'll try to use his shot to kill a mime and if he fails, we should too.

[Zajnet]

Zora's going to flip VT, would bet money on it. He needs to die before LyLo though. I think we should lynch the ones that might actually be scum (i.e. funky) first, in case we can win without ever getting near lylo.

[Zajnet]

V/LA until Thursday, my dad's getting married and I'll be out of town.

[Zajnet]

VOTE: funkybike

[Zajnet]

Damnit, are we really going to run up funky and not lynch him

again

?

Fine.

UNVOTE: funkybike1,VOTE: trollie

[Zajnet]

VOTE: Elli

[Zajnet]

elli needs to die

[Zajnet]

I should be voting Elli.

[Zajnet]

I'm not going to post the angel QT.

And @CFJ: It wasn't mountainous...