Gaben Mafia: GAME OVER

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Post.

Hi all. I hail from Westeros, Land of the Seven Kingdoms, etc, etc.. (PS: I saw a discussion thread for ASOIAF in Gen Discussion, will prob be joining that soon )

I'll catch up with this and post my thoughts tomorrow. Still on V/LA till tomorrow.

UNVOTE: , incase I have a vote out.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Stream-of-consciousness:

iDany’s 26 reads kinda iffy. I don’t like RVS, yet I’m going to participate in it to fit in? o.O
Melter’s 39 is wasn’t actually that bad on it’s own. It could’ve easily been for balance/experience purposes. However, the posts that follow are TROLOLHORRIBLE. Not, I really mean it. I think one of the best way to catch scum is to look at the very beginning of the game, when they are more prone to make awkward posts, then when they actually start getting the feel of things. Lets just see how horrible they are:

I don't, but I doubt there is only one mafia, so there are at least two, right?

Uhh, no, why the hell would you think there is only one? Like at all. Like, even suggest it. PS: This is scum trying to go the wrong direction to WIFOM.

Also, just so you know, I totally wasn't mocking this post or anything...

Actually, that was obvious, but pointing it is just scapegoating.

inte said one of those three are scum, yet no one bugged him about it. So I don't see how it makes me look scummy at all.

Wait, c’mon guys, say it with me : def-lec-tion.

It's basically saying the same thing. Only mine is implying there are two scum. Does that mean I know there are exactly two scum? No, it just means that two people are definitely scum, as with any game.

Wait what? It’s the same exact thing.
DeathNote’s 104 is terrible.

Hm had a feeling my wagon was nearly started as a reaction test. But the fact on how many people voted is why I'm beginning to question if it was...

OH DEAR GOD WHY AREN’T YOU LYNCHED YET!
Darox is town.
iDany’s 152 reads more like a court reporting than an actual player in a game.
Umbrage and Hiraki are prob town.

I should really just be a null read. What have I done to give you a read off of?

Uhh, no. Too much null = scummy.
OMG, I’m in love with post 200 <3

the actual validity of a slip is generally determined by his reaction to it, anyways, not the actual slip itself

Wait what? So that WASN’T a horrible reaction

it's absolutely ridiculous how many people saw that slip as 100% true, which tells me there's scum trying to ride it

Maybe because it’s clear as day?
Melter’s 240 is OMGUSing. Justing saying…

Yeah... not sure what the head butting is with umbrage and int.

ISOing int and maybe that will help me figure it out.

Do you… read the thread?
Umbrage is town.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

VOTE: Meanmelter

Rough tiers:

Meanmelter
iDany/Karnage, TheFool, Seanald
Deathnote, TML, inte, kuribo
Hiraki, Darox, Umbrage

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

i fakeclaimed because i wanted some night kill analysis before i could actually use my abilities

theres a soft-claim of it in the thread, and i was hoping someone would of picked up on it

Okay, we are all slow. Do you mind expanding on that and actually claiming? Or what was the point of saying it in the first damn place if all you're going to do is send us on a wild goose chase.

Also, if you're going to end up saying you lied again, I'm going to vig you. No, seriously.

Also, anyone who thinks the meanmelter lynch was bad can go hide in a corner. Because that was one of the best lynches in the history of mafia. Idc if he didn't flip scum.

Pedit: No one is fucking shooting me. Btw, I'm checkmate's replacement. Hi. Nice to meet you. Not going to lie, his play was pretty horrible (not as horrible as meanmelter, but if I was anyone else, I would've actually pushed a lynch on him). But, yea... I'm stuck in this position, and it's a town position, sooo....

Also, Checkmate might have felt threated by hiraki. But if I was scum, I would've prob random.orged my kill from thw towniest players or something.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

okay, fucking amished tell wins again

i'm shooting checkmate for sure if you guys let me stay through the night

plus he just counterclaimed me holy shit

Oh cool. Yea... guillotine please.

If you really wanted to shoot me, you would've done it last night. Now it just seems like you're stalling.

PS: Let's L-1 inte, so he can get even more excited

VOTE: inte

Pedit: What the hell did you want to analyze? Please, by all means, don't let us stop your awesome analysis.

Pedit2: Who the hell in their right mind would kill a cpr doctor?

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

do you ever shoot night 1?

if so, please tell me the percent of you getting it fucking right

In the past 2 games I remember being a vig, I shot both my shots night1.

The first I hit a traitor.

The second I hit scum.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

since you are no longer a claimed doc...

VOTE: inte

Hi. You're scum, aren't you?

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Why'd you kill Hiraki?

Because random.org told me to

I don't think there is a possible answer to this question But the closest is, because I didn't.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

@ser arthur

how do you come to that conclusion

(1) iDany was completely fence sitting.
(2) Kurwalloooo, or whatever the name is (can't go back, I'm in posting reply thing), hopped on the wagon, and his personality doesn't strike me as someone who would just jump right away.
(3) He used a reason for his vote. Which is overjustifying. Plus, the reason was pretty horrible.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

PS: I skim all games before replacing into them. When I was skimming, checkmate striked me as pretty horrible.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

So are you apologizing for his bad play?

Oh hell no. I feel sorry for myself for having to take his shoes. Other than that, I really don't care much how he played, because I know he was town.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

funny how ser arthur hasn't fucking acknowledged it

You just said that "funny how ser arthur hasn't fucking acknowledged it", and then when I do, you say who gives a fuck? Apparentley, you.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

so who's scum besides you, Ser?

Oh, you see my attack on kuwalalala, that's bussing

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

kuribo

kuribo, whatever his name is.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Oh wait, that's you. Woops. karnage. Same thing.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

oh, I get it, you're being a cheeky little dumbshit


then why the fuck aren't you voting me?

Lol. This made me die. I was meaning karnage, but that made for a funny turn of events

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Heading to bed. Please don't spam up the thread <_<

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

so you can't remember my name but you are a regular sigmund freud when it comes to my personality

Yea. I remember people by their av, not by their name.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

ser, what would you say if i said I tracked you to Hiraki?

I'd vote you for lying. I did not target Hiraki last night.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Can someone tell me exactly what an amished tell is and how it is scummy? I spent some time searching the site and all I could find was that there was once a player named Amished. I think I see it but I'd like some clarification here.

When you replace into a game, and you read/analyze the person before you. The logic is, if you are town, you don't need to really give a read or analyze anything they say beyond just reading them. But if you're scum, you tend to read what they are saying, and try to analyze their motives, etc...

Basically, the play today is lynch Ser der her. Because he replaced Checkmate, and Checkmate is scum.

Okay, so I'm stuck in a scummy position. I can't defend it because I don't know what Checkmate was thinking. Checkmate can't defend himself because he isn't here. And Checkmate isn't here to make a better play. So I'm basically doomed? Good to know.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

I could go with either lynch, but I agree that inte may as well get a chance to shoot.

VOTE: SAD

Probs scum here btw

QFT

who do you want me to shoot

.. guys

its gonna be one of {deathnote, karnage, mini-librarian}

Hi. Why isn't Fool on your list?

Also, if you're going to end up saying you lied again,

I'm going to vig you. No, seriously

.

SAD, do you actually have any vig abilities?

Hi. Why are you role-fishing?

I'll be happy with a Karnage or Fool lynch today. If we keep inte to shoot, we should lynch one of them, and have him shoot the other.

Also, inte is prob a shitty lynch.

UNVOTE: .

Too many people jumped on, without much of a reason. Makes me think there scum jumped on. Which is most prob Karnage. And then prob the other scum would support the other wagon, to spread the seeds out (hint hint, like TheFool did). Also, he'll prob get lynched sooner or later, but for now, too many people are trying to fly under the radar.

VOTE: Karnage

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

My god.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: SAD

Please tell me that looks like a "FOS partner, vote townie" post to someone else.

Sorry. But I only have 1 vote. Unfortunately, I can't vote both people -___-

Also, if people are more interested in lynching Fool, I'll switch just as easily. I'm just saying inte is prob a shitty lynch, because it either involved scum pushing or scum bussing. Either way, we can catch scum from the people who jumped on inte. And, abracadabra!! Karnage is on the wagon with a shitty reason, and is prob scum. Fool is more of the lurking/flying under the radar scum, but if he is scum, he is either associated with someone on the inte wagon, or inte himself. Right now, I think Karnage has more of a chance of hitting scum.

This just looks like you're throwing shit in the air and hoping to cling on to it. So if I had done vice versa, you would still think the same... o.O

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Nope. Cause here's the thing: When I read your post going from point to point I expected a Fool vote. The reasons you give for suspecting Fool are much more convincing than the reasons you gave for Karnage. And if you had a half a brain you'd realize that the reasons you give for suspecting Karnage are silly, like Kuribo so deftly pointed out.

I was suspecting Karncage way before. In fact, if you re-read the beginning of this day 2, I already said that Karncage is scum.

Plus

the fact that TheFool being scum is dependent on the fact that a partner of his was on the inte wagon, or he himself. But it is not necessarly 100%.

Look at it this way:
If Fool is scum, he had a partner on the inte wagon, or inte himself
This does not mean that he has to be scum, but it means

if

he was scum, his partner was on the inte wagon.
Either way, there is a scum on the inte wagon, whether Fool is the partner or not.
Karncage is the scum on the inte wagon.

Also:

I'm just saying inte is prob a shitty lynch, because it either involved scum pushing or scum bussing.

WHAT?

Is Inte scum or not? Why would scum bussing make it a shitty lynch???

I'm saying the lynch came out of no where really, only based on a fact that he fake-claimed, so it's shitty in the sense that a it's not pushed fully by town.

Hi. Why are you role-fishing?

I don't see there being two vigilantes so if you are claiming vig then either you or inte is lying. We could then lynch one of you and the flip would tell us what we need to know about the other.

Why can't you see 2 (1) shot vigs?

the fact that SAD and inte have counterclaimed one another and SAD doesn't seem to care about that fact seems pretty significant to me

I didn't claim vig -___-

PS: I'm not a vig. I don't care about the fact because (1) I never claimed vig; I said it as a joke and (2) I can see 2 one shot vigs.
PPS: As for the rason why Karncage is scum, look at his vote. He basically uses a justification from something he said on day1, so people can' say he has a baseless vote. Basically overjustifying, and trying to make himself room to backtrack. He set up the "reluctant" vote.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

hes pretending to scumhunt its ok let him play mafia

Oh, no, by all means, I won't scumhunt if it's

that

bad. I'll just sheep like a good little townie.

VOTE: inte

This isn’t about you flipping scum. This is about you being as anti-town as fuck. Guillotine come down please.

PS: Karncage is still scum.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

I wanna learn more, but the “learn more” button doesn’t work -___-

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Oh, if we're not lynching inte, how about that scummy scum Karncage? Or Fool?

But seriously, I want a read from everyone on both Fool and Karncage/Dany. And if you come up blank, then that is leaning towards scumminess.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

inte, shoot who you want to shoot.
DeathNote, if you want a lynch so bad, hammer!

What the hell is this? This isn't a free-for-all, what ever you wanna do, you do it. If you're not planning on working like a team, then you can go sit in a corner and be quiet.

Also, why the hell are you giving directions to hammer when you don't believe in a freaking inte lynch? Aren't suppose to be, kinda *cough cough*

trying

to scumhunt.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

He's pull shit out of his ass. Gotta save himself somehow.

Exactly

Also, I never said I 'don't believe' in an inte lynch. Where are you getting this stuff?

Well, apparently, you’re on my wagon, so evidently, you believe in my lynch more than inte’s. So why are you advocating an inte lynch?

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

If you think I am scum why aren't you voting me? If you don't believe in his lynch why are you voting inte?

Because he has to die. I am sick of the begging, and he is basically being useless.

At first I was lattered by all the attention you have been paying to me but now I am getting a little offended.

Wait what? Sooo, by your scale, I should be storming out of the room because of all the attention I’m getting? Please, explain why you feel “offended”.

and seriously, "karncage"? your doing that on purpose

Actually, I’m not. When I read your name, I associated it with corn cage (as in KornCage). That’s why I add the c to make it cage. I’ll try to spell it right :p

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

i want deathnote to answer why didn't he just hammer ser arthur if he wants a lynch that badly

People don't just

want

a lynch. They want a lynch on a specific person, and they have to

think

about the lynch. Everyone is not like "oh, hey, quicklynch someone, idgaf who, just hurry up and lynch".

You're fishing for a quicklynch right now, and it's beyond fucked up when you are trying to manipulate others into following you and surviving one more day.

Purge. It. With. Fire!

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

darox, i think you're right, umbrage is looking really bad if / when SAD flips scum

Well, I won't be flipping scum

Also, why can't your logic work even if I am town? If Umbrage is jumpy and too windie, then isn't it a scum-tell either way? I don't see how this is dependent on me being scum.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

-___-

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Lol. I was already lynched <_< (At least, I thought so o.O)

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Meanmelter
iDany/Karnage, TheFool, Seanald
Deathnote, TML, inte, kuribo
Hiraki, Darox, Umbrage

AHAHAHA. AHAHAHAHAHA. /facepalm so hard

I fucking nailed all three scums (after melter). Yet everyone decided to fucking be stupid. And inte and melter really did not help town's cause whatsoever -___-