Open 403 - Donner Party (Game Over)


Forum rules
Locked
User avatar
Hoopla
Hoopla
User avatar
User avatar
Hoopla
Posts: 10788
Joined: October 12, 2008

Post Post #446 (isolation #0) » Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:57 am

Post by Hoopla »

Tierce wrote:
Mod thoughts


This setup is very punishing for town. It's essentially non-reveal, and during the game I was left wondering if a massclaim D1 isn't the best strategy for town--it leaves their PRs in the open with no protective roles, but on the other hand it stops the main tool that scum and SK have in this setup, which is the ability to fakeclaim via the janitored kills.


Nice modding Tierce. I agree that the setup is punishing on town - no reveal games tend to do that, although I'm not sure it's unbalanced. Playing in a 2:1:9 setup is a decent advantage to compensate for limited reveals. I'm also wondering how effective a D1 massclaim could be - you get the benefits of three confirmed town D1, but they will automatically attract the mafia and SK nightkill, leaving you in a mostly vanilla game (and most importantly eliminating N1 of possible crosskills, which is a massive advantage for town in these sort of games). Most fakeclaims are hard to pull off in this setup, as the other antitown faction will likely target you if you're believed by the town, and you have to get details right, which the other faction might pick up on. All things considered, I think massclaim D1 is probably suboptimal, because the risk of fakeclaims isn't too crippling - at least not enough to sacrifice your PR's N1 and get no crosskill chances that night.
User avatar
Hoopla
Hoopla
User avatar
User avatar
Hoopla
Posts: 10788
Joined: October 12, 2008

Post Post #448 (isolation #1) » Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:28 am

Post by Hoopla »

I think this run was about as demoralising as the setup could be town - if the town lynched scum on D2 or D3, they could have received a couple of flips to illuminate the early stages of the game. It might be a good idea for the vig to claim after a couple of kills, so the town has some other probable flips, if they believe the claim. But yeah, limited reveal games aren't for everyone - I think the good thing is the amount of death means the game won't go on forever.
User avatar
Hoopla
Hoopla
User avatar
User avatar
Hoopla
Posts: 10788
Joined: October 12, 2008

Post Post #467 (isolation #2) » Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:27 pm

Post by Hoopla »

:shifty:
Locked