Open 412.2 Shotgun Vengeful Mafia 2 - Game Over!

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Potato.
VOTE: RachMarie
Because she's the only one other than me who hasn't been voted yet.

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UNVOTE:
Okey dokey artichokey.

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Not really, my gut only works once I stop paying attention :V

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I normally don't like RVS'ing in 5P either, but I felt like it for some reason :V

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I find tits funny.
Though I guess that's to be expected at my age :V

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I'm only 13.
Underage bro.

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WHO SAID I DON'T DO THAT ALREADY?
I don't btw.

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Yeah, not really interested yet.

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ANYWAY, ENOUGH ABOUT MY SEXUALITY AND ACTIONS REGARDING IT. BACK TO MAFIA,

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Do you like potatoes?

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I like potatoes :D
Potatoes are awesome.
So no particular reason.

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But fluff stuff is fun :P
Y u do dat?

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Any other thoughts Chimera?

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Make content.
What are your reads on everyone right now? What did you make of the discussion kcdaspot and I had?

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My thoughts right now is that Rach is probably town, and kcda is also probably town though less so than Rach.
I'm slightly leaning scum on Chimera, and Chaos is obvnull.

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Reasons for Rach town?
I'm wondering if you're getting the same thing I am.

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Lol.
Yeah, basically the same thing. I noticed her trying to initiate discussion too.

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No, there isn't really much need to worry about Chaos' vote.

Also I'm V/LA today. Can't be on for long.

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Not V/LA anymore.

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Hao do eye post in right gaem :P

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@Mr. Mod: Can you please delete posts 69 and 70 for me? They are for another game :V

Deleted. Dunno what it was but it's done.

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Deleted. Dunno what it was but it's done.

Thank you :D

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I am here.

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Discussing my current sexuality was obviously the most anti-town thing kcdaspot has done.

Serious answer: Probably the fluff discussion, but I'm one to talk :V

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Why?

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Not really. I kinda want Chimera lynched now. I don't like the feel I'm getting from his posts.
I can try and make a case if you want.

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VOTE: drmyshotgun
I'll try and get a case up today. I'm feeling lazy so it might take a while :V

Is this a coup I see here? Huehuehue.

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Oh whoops, I forgot. I'll make it very soon.

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Wish chaos was back...wrong player to go on V/LA here....

Ambiguous sentence is really suspicious. Don't like how it's left up to our own interpretation.

Semi content? All there is is you and Om discussing nothing at all and then a bit of a back and forth between you and rach regarding your read on chaos. So yes, chaos is the wrongest of the wrong players to go atm and without him I have nothing to comment on that hasn't already been said.

This sounds like he's trying to attack kcda and I indirectly and also a hesitance to comment on anything. With the "attack" on us, it means that Chimera can jump on us for no apparent reason later in the game and claim he already attacked us or was already suspicious of us. The whole point of being town is to bring something new to the table when you post. I don't think Chimera was trying to do that here, and instead he was making up an excuse for not posting.

Om...that whole discussion between you two was useless fluff that completely fits your playstyle regardless of alignment. So I regard it as null for you. And I don't know enough about kcdaspot to say if it's typical of him too.

I dunno about you guys but I have a hard time making reads when 50%+ of the posts in just two pages are fluff.

It sounds like here he wants to attack me, but he doesn't want to make it obvious so he tries to balance out something bad for me with something good (bad=useless fluff discussion, good=it apparently fits my playstyle). Also he was kinda strawmanning the amount of fluff in the game at that time.

And so far you've done....oh look a fluff conversation and pushed a moot point. How extremely useful. Pot calling the kettle black right here...

This sounds like a weak attack on kcda. And as some of you may know, I think weak attacks are good for bussing. Which means if Chimera flips scum, I'll probably go after kcda for this.

@ Chimera do you suspect Kcdaspot of being scum? Any ideas of people you think are town?

Not a lot, but I find him less town than you and Om. Chaos is pretty much null to me.

It doesn't sound like he has any scumreads at all, what has he been doing this whole time?

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Being non-comittal is a scumtell because it means you are liable to flip-flop on your reads later in the game.

Why do you think Rach is town?

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I am on the wagon in spirit. I would already be on it if it weren't L-1.
Rach is not scum and never will be in this game or I will eat my hat.

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I haven't really been paying attention to Chaos :V
But from what I remember, I'm leaning town on him so I have no problem with him on the wagon.

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That was for a different game.

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Why don't you like me now?

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Yeah, I'm not going to let someone pussy out on this.
VOTE: Chimera
I'm confident he will flip scum.

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Yeah, I didn't like kcda's posts near the end of the day. It felt like he knew his buddy was going to be lynched, so he quickly had to find someone to suspect. His throwing Chaos under the bus was also really bad. It looks to me like he was trying to fake a reason not to lynch Chimera.

Won't vote just yet though, need more discussion first.

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Actually, the things I want to discuss are things I think would produce more discussion under the stress of LYLO.
We can have discussion tomorrow, if there is one. But for now I still think kcda is scum.
VOTE: kcdaspot
*crosses his fingers for a town win*

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:P
Before you die, please explain why it's Chaos.

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@Rach: Are you scum?
@Chaos: Are you scum?

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Nope, I'm never scum. I'm always super duper obvtown :3

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Why do I feel like Chaos just tried to go against the obvtownie to gain town cred so he could get me mislynched instead?

Rach, wanna lynch Chaos?
VOTE: ChaosOmega

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Let me know what you get from ISO's.

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Here, have a double ISO with my super scum-connecting ISO powahs.
I may be reading a bit too far into these first two btw.

vote: Chimera

Possible distancing for the early game. However, due to RVS I'm not putting too much weight into this.

VOTE: ChaosOmega

Cause OMGUS in RVS is fun.

Same for this.

Wish chaos was back...wrong player to go on V/LA here....

Here he kinda tries to throw Chaos under the bus. The way he explained it meant he thought Chaos was town, but I still think there may have been a hidden motive here.

Semi content? All there is is you and Om discussing nothing at all and then a bit of a back and forth between you and rach regarding your read on chaos. So yes, chaos is the wrongest of the wrong players to go atm and without him I have nothing to comment on that hasn't already been said.

Hey look, another post about Chaos. I think maybe the constant mention of him could possibly be him trying to distance from Chaos. Though I guess this may have just been because he was asked to explain what he meant.

I would say Chimera and Kcdaspot for scumteam, but that's mainly gut. Chimera's 52 reads like buddying with Om of the Nom and subtle not-pushed attack/distancing with Kcdaspot.

Here is what I think is a bussing attack directed at Chimera. It sounds weak, which to me constitues a connection when someone between them flips scum.

You keep bringing up my vote in this game as anti-town because it is 5p. Why is that so? He has one vote, with 3 to lynch. Both scum would have to jump on to quicklynch assuming Chimera is town, outing them both. I'm not seeing a negative there.

This sounds like a weak attack at Chimera too. Maybe he was trying to use the situation to make a play on the words to make him appear town ("Both the scum" is used in a way that would not include him).

...okay.

Bleh. Fine.

So now having conceded your point what's your read on chaos?

Why is Chimera so concerned with what people think of Chaos?

Chimera: Who is your partner? Follow-up, are you the goon or the godfather?

Again, another attack at Chimera. I'm really starting to think this is distancing now.

Chaos is pretty much null to me.

So wait, Chaos is null to you, despite being almost your only topic of conversation in all your posts? It feels like you're trying not to give too strong a read on him in case Chaos flips scum.

And my vote on Chimera isn't random anymore, RachMarie. I agree with Om of the Nom about not liking the feel of his posts. Especially that last one. It's just so wishy-washy. Kcdaspot isn't really suspected as being scum by him, but RachMarie and Om are more town, and I'm null. He's just trying to be non-offensive and isn't giving any real reads or insight.

Yet another attack. This one also sounds fake, plus he parroted me without adding anything new to my original attack. It sounds like he's just trying to look like he's making content when he really isn't.

And I'd shoot Chimera. Wanna distance some more today.

In hindsight, this is hilarious.

Omega...basically I generally play pretty cautiously. Someone else? Possibly. Would have all depended on my lynch wagon because before that question I had no clear scumreads. I had scumspects who I would have been more likely to shoot (i.e. kcdas) but likely to vary according to lynch.

Why all the waffles just from answering Chaos' question? Are you trying not to give too much away, or to sound like you don't already know the answer?

What's the matter Kcdaspot, don't wanna hammer your partner?

Hey look, an indirect attack. Indirect bussing is fun.

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Or um, maybe you're scum instead.

This isn't rocket science here. Though I guess you have to feign towniness :P

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So why does any of that make me scummy?

Who said I was very concerned with kcda's opinion of me? I was just asking him why. I always like to know why people think I'm scum, no matter which alignment. Plus, what does me getting him lynched the next day mean anyway? You were on the wagon before me, same for Chimera's wagon.

I like all the adjectives you use to describe the fluff conversation I had with kcda on Page 2. Too much adjectives = discrediting, to me. The conversation didn't even last long, so it didn't really make a difference to the game. Explain exactly why it was bad. I don't need to start a fluff conversation just to show my activity. Why would I need to do that? I have a town meta with fluff in it too. Rach can confirm this is true.

You had contributed basically nothing that wasn't realted to Chimera on D1. That read to me like super huge distancing and I did not like it one bit. Die scum die.

You know what, why don't you post your case on Rach too? Even if you now think she's town, maybe you could post it anyway?

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Post the case anyway. It will show us what you were thinking, and might make Rach make a better decision.

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No it's not. It shows her your thinking process.

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Rach, it's all up to you now.

Vote Chaos for a town win.
Vote me for a scum win.

You decide.

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THANK YOU SO MUCH RACH YOU ARE THE BEST YAY SCUM WIN AHAHAHAHA.

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THIS IS MY FIRST SCUM WIN AND RACH YOU SHOULD FEEL HONOURED FOR MAKING IT HAPPEN :D :D :D :D :D :D

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You shouldn't be sorry.
You should be happy :D

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You actually played really well. Had I been town, I would still have read you as the most obvtownie out of everyone.

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The best part about this, is that I have now broken my scum meta >:D

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I'm pretty sure this is the second time I've gone off into the sunset in flavor :V

I knew bussing the shit out of Chimera would work quite well. I stupidly made a risky move in LYLO (voting Chaos before he made his Rach case) but I'm so glad I managed to recover from that. Had I not done that, I think Chaos would have voted Rach and I could have power hammered for teh win earlier.

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After the events of D1, of which halfway through I knew a Chimera lynch was inevitable, I knew my best plan was to quickly get kcdaspot out of the way and get him mislynched, then after that to be consistent I had to go for Chaos in LYLO. Had kcdaspot not have delayed the Chimera lynch, he probably wouldn't have been as scummy and he would have pushed for a Chaos lynch after the preceeding Chimera-scum flip. If we had gotten a Chaos lynch D2, then the next day I would have definitely pushed for a kcdaspot lynch and probably would have had an easier win.

Really, I had most of this game planned out after D1, I just needed to make sure my execution was right.

PEDIT: I can't remember, but it may have been something like Medical Mafia.

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That D2 hammer by me was such an obvious 'I don't have anything to say and I need to keep up my appearance so I'll just hammer' hammer.