Open 418 - Friends and Fun Times at the Fair (Game Over)

[Regfan]

I have an extremely strong town read on Code_X now, his catch up post includes a lot of things that I've been thinking lately mostly related to interactions; that being that Techs defence and meta read on Venmar was completely undeserved and "ongoing games" doesn't change my mind of that at all though I think his leap from it being possibly just friend bias towards him having to be scum is wrong. His commenting that Venmar-TAM work together as partners very much from how they handled each other earlier in the game is something I agree with. I also found the way he approached the 'possible wording slip' comes across as he very much thought he stumbled into a slip. Also the fact that he showed something that makes him lean towards Bork being scum and then something that he found to be a town-tell shows that he's actually scumhunting and reading through the thread with intent to look deeper whereas I think scum would have pre-determined opinions or stances on a lot of players rather than commenting on both sides.

VE, I can see what you're saying about Andrew setting up for a mason claim with Shotgun but am pretty positive it's not the case which is why I want andew to elaborate on what posts of Shotguns made him think he was a mason. And this is something that needs him doing pretty much asap.

Also everyone seems to be saying the "RP town-read dying" - I don't get that at all; his "Shotgun is town 100%, okay maybe not 100%" attached with his reasoning behind it comes across as genuine scumhunting and a very strong town-tell. Other than that his votes seem to be for reactions and pressure.

[Regfan]

Yeah, great modding Morton, the vote counts and flips were regular and on time and you managed to find a lot of replacements.

I'm super disappointed that town managed to lose this after D1-D2 scum lynches, should never happen and no offence to Arugula but his play wasn't spectacular at all, he was just allowed to cruise through majority of the days doing little due to massive town on town conflict. Someone needed to step up and slow this entire game down, then re-look at everyone individually and had someone done that the RP lynch should have been prevented as well as the VE one, both of those were atrocious. Also annoyed that lylo lasted such a short period of time; the thing that scum hate the most is long drawn out days and lylos and when you draw it out you get the ability to get better reads, better analysis and more from the game, speed voting there is pointless plus doing so limits the amount that McStab can respond to in the meantime. Hoping everyone from this game learns that slowing the game down is massively needed, even in situations where you think you've sure-fire won.

Also the fact that RBD/Chrimi were called out D1 means that scum instantly knew they had to depend on their last member so distancing themselves with them ('Bussing') was really a ploy that made a lot of sense and clearing Arugula for being pushed on was bad whereas McStabs push on Venmar for the 'slip' happened before any scum was really called out and thus entirely different. Plus another thing to note was that Arugula went from 'shotgun is suspect, to shotgun is confirmed town' the night before he shot him; it's the sort of change of stance scum do to make their reads look better + the shotgun kill also made sense due to shotgun implying that he thinks Arugula is scum previously so it's removal of a likely vote on him.

Anyway I'm going to try and forget this game now.

[Regfan]

Think it works out to be 9 RL days from start of D3 to end game with 4 town lynches in that time. And with 3ish of those being 'nights' that means town almost mslynched every RL from D3 on, that's pretty fucking terrible to think about.

[Regfan]

Can I see the mason QT by any chance?

[Regfan]

List was all town and 4 of them were lynched..