History Mafia Mini Theme - 1358 Game Over!

[McStab]

Catchup post coming tomorrow

[McStab]

I've reread most of the game, and so far I've come to these conclusions:

I don't like either half of the IceGuy/MattP interaction. I think IceGuy's responses could be either town essentially softclaiming a PR without wanting to elaborate, or scum trying to avoid pressure and simultaneously rolefishing (going back all the way to his first posts).

MattP's pressure and aggressiveness has struck me as townish, but there's been some pretty blatant rolefishery going on with the IceGuy situation. Given that I'm inclined to think, based on his own rolefishing earlier, that IceGuy is scum, I'd say this indicates that MattP is town. I'm fairly confident that they're different alignments though; I doubt scums would both rolefish so obviously and try to force each other to claim.

I don't really have much meta knowledge on anyone here except Bitmap, and he hasn't struck me as that scummy this game. DeasVail's analysis is helpful, but there's a few too many town-null reads on there for me to be totally comfortable with him.

Vote: IceGuy

[McStab]

Ftr I don't like anyone on the IceGuy wagon.

You seem to have some serious self-hate issues.

^^^This.

I think DCL's posting was very defensive and somewhat scummy closer to the start of the game, but it's recently taken on a town tone. Trying to prevent a massclaim and providing a smart reason why (namely, you're only going to catch stupid scum in a nameclaim, whereas town could give scum indicators on PRs) makes sense to me, and I doubt scum would bring up this point, even if they don't actively push for a massclaim.

I see too many townreads as strange, at this stage of the game. Townvibes may emerge Day One, but as a member of the uninformed majority, I frequently get scumvibes from more players than I do townvibes. With no flips and no reference point to go off, I personally have a sense of paranoia Day One, and so I'm still somewhat concerned about the amount of townreads he has at this stage of the game. That being said, his play hasn't been particularly scummy, but his large amount of town and null reads really stuck out to me.

[McStab]

I'm sure I skimmed them, but if you wouldn't mind going over your logic for why a mass name claim would be good, I'd appreciate seeing it laid out here instead of me searching for them.

[McStab]

I knew you were pushing for a mass name claim early on, you've softclaimed a PR but refused to outline exactly what it is, and you've been rolefishing for people hard. That alone is enough to quantify you as scum.

Unless you have a good reason for a mass nameclaim, which I didn't see when I skimmed your posts. Or is your logic just that your vague roleclaim could use names?

[McStab]

By pushing for a mass name claim, presumably those who push harder against it would be the ones with PRs. It's not as obvious as asking someone to claim (like MattP is to you) but obviously VTs won't care about giving names up.

As for why it would only catch stupid scum in a nameclaim, DCL explained exactly why. It's History. Any scum with a brain can comeup with a good name claim, and chances are they won't overlap with any town names.

It may be an aggressive question, but the point still holds that that IS your logic up until now. Dodging the question ahoy?

[McStab]

I'm Paul Revere, Watcher.

IceGuy, can your role be used to confirm me at night?

[McStab]

Yeah, Vash left me in a tough spot to replace in, and this combined with some subpar play on my part made my slot an easy lynch Day One. Also, sorry for not claiming RB, for some reason I subconsciously read that as claim PR, and that you would counterclaim me (to MattP). So, my bad there as well, but it looks as though you guys did well anyway.

Also @Nexus, some really great flavour, I liked it.