Newbie 1289 - Game Over!

[Xalxe]

Fuck dammit TIERCE is your IC?

[Xalxe]

Yep.

No, wait, I'm not, sorry. But I am reading. You all should feel bad about your early pages and bullshit theory discussion.

[Xalxe]

Alrighty guys here's the deal.

Salient Point Number 1:

Regarding JamesWatson/fishriding/whoever else, it is literally impossible to analyze the viewpoint of this absolute fucking retard. Let's keep that wine out of the game and focus on what we've got.

Granted, that's not much, but still.

Salient Point B:

Tierce is town as always until I say otherwise, though I have a question for you.
Buldermar is town, making Tierce v. buldermar Town v. Town
JasonWazza is probably town.

I had a town read on BT, then Nat_river (yeah yeah) came in and fucked it up, so Cheery can go to the Null pile.

Airick falls into the lurktastic pile.

Salient Point III:

Questions to be answered to proceed:
1) Why was RedRabbit killed?
2) Tierce, well I'm realizing I misread your posts but I'll ask the question. Can you explain your shift from Post 243 to Post 325?

I'm not voting for now, though I'd support an Airick wagon most of all at the moment.

[Xalxe]

Xalxe, could you elaborate on either of your reads?

You have used the word either. I do not understand your usage of this word, as I have provided some form of read on every player in this game, save myself.

tl;dr be more specific?

[Xalxe]

Tierce - Tierce is always town, except when she isn't. We have a history. I don't flatter myself that I can read her perfectly, but she's by no means today's lynch.
Re: Retards: Wine, wine everyfuckingwhere.
Bul - Town because not scum. POE bitches.
Jason is town because PaperSpirit was and he hasn't done anything to fuck up that read.
BT was :goodposting: all over this game and was a nice voice of sanity. Cheery decided to not do that. Plus river boy was dumb.

If you were expecting :motherfucking walls: like you're fond of, be aware that Tierce and I are from the same school of thought. 'Cept she's better at it.

[Xalxe]

Your superiority complex is really quite irksome.

[Xalxe]

I was thinking about this last night, and about why RedRabbit was killed. There was no reason that I could see for him to be nightkilled, so I figured that it was due to his reads. And lookie at this post:

Ok, I'm buying it. I still have a scum read on ovyo/Mr.JamesWatson/Leonshade, (stronger than before), but I'll join your wagon in order to get the lynch today.


UNVOTE: ovyo
VOTE: DeltaBacon.

Note: DeltaBacon is now L-1.

Leonshade and Tierce were his scumreads. I'm thinking that this coupled with the lovely wine makes for an interesting case. And by that I mean VOTE: Leonshade

[Xalxe]

That was it, mostly. Not as strong, but I need to check into who suspected Tierce. If she is scum, she likes to off those who suspect her. But like I said, she's not the play for today.

[Xalxe]

Since when?

[Xalxe]

Can't...meta...on phone...

[Xalxe]

Tierce or mod (whoever can answer this) - since vendetta was replaced during the night, let's say vendetta had a night action available. Would vendetta or Xalxe have the chance to perform the night action? If it was vendetta, then I can assume he was inactive and did not do any night action?

Vendetta was not replaced during the night. Day had started.

[Xalxe]

I'm not going to say Tierce is today's lynch. But implying that there is a history and that you can read her perfectly does not mean much to me in this game. Reading through this, I'm sure you can see this is quite a unique game. I'm not convinced you are town or Tierce is town just because you two have a history.

Responding to your vote on Leonshade, one of the primary scum reads was going to be on Leonshade anyway coming into D2. Scum would have to expect that, so what makes RedRabbit special enough?

I would disagree with this. Leonshade/Cheery Dog were lynch targets, according to Tierce, if (and apparently only if) Deltabacon was scum. He was not.

Either way, RR was killed for a REASON and I'm trying to ferret that out. If you don't think it was his reads, what was it?

[Xalxe]

buldermar, what do you think of my theory re: RR's death?

[Xalxe]

It's funny because you ignored me.

[Xalxe]

It's funny because you ignored me.

I believe that just shows he is true to his word... but it's not something that needs to be happening, although he has said he is doing this, it's still extremely anti-town to be ignoring people.

I thought he said that he'd be ignoring anything not related to the game. Oh well, I was wrong.

[Xalxe]

Izak, does my vote not count?

[Xalxe]

Buldermar i think you need to get over the Xalxe stuff for the good of the town.

He is free to apologize for the good of the town.

I am sorry I bruised your inflated ego.

More words coming later, in class now.

[Xalxe]

Yep, good with my vote.

[Xalxe]

As I said way back when, I support an Airick wagon as well and will do the readings tonight/tomorrow.

[Xalxe]

Hai Xalxe.

On my list for today, don't worry.

[Xalxe]

Sorry I don't really have anything to add to the discussion.

VOTE: Airick

Claim nao?

[Xalxe]

buldermar, Cheery Dog, Leonshade

: Explain to me why you're not hammering Airick, and who should be lynched instead.

Or vote Airick.

[Xalxe]

Then vote me instead of leaving your vote dangling uselessly.

[Xalxe]

I have to review a few things. As of now, I am not interested in lynching Leonshade; I'll have to mull on things a bit to see if I would ever support a Cheery Dog lynch.

First of all,

NOBODY VOTE IT IS LYLO AND WE DON'T WANT A QUICKHAMMER

. Now that that's out of the way even though 4/5 of us are experienced...

This clearly says that Leon is town due to Tierce's flip on her read on him. That means that we have 1 conf. town and four not.

If there is a Jailkeeper, claim in your next post, actions and all.

If there is, we've got a nice process of elimination for today. If not, that's fine. I should be clear that a JK claim is not auto-cleared, but it's something to work with.

(also I should note that mafia made a mistake in killing Tierce because I would've totally led a wagon on her today and you wouldn't have had to do shit)

[Xalxe]

If there is a Jailkeeper, claim in your next post, actions and all.

If there is, we've got a nice process of elimination for today. If not, that's fine. I should be clear that a JK claim is not auto-cleared, but it's something to work with.

Wouldn't it be better to have a mass claim now?

We are in LYLO after all.

Means we have a little more to work off at least.

The only claims will be JK or VT. Basically, JK needs to claim.

[Xalxe]

Vote buldermar

it's not Cheery, so it's Jason/bul.

[Xalxe]

Was going to post that earlier, am more convinced now. Also am on phone.

[Xalxe]

Well, glad to see I'm right at least.

[Xalxe]

Wait that never answered the question, derp. (well I guess it answers no if you look into it)

Going off earlier opinions, it's Xalxe/Buldermar, though I still can't discount Jason.

I'll have to go look at the interactions some more, but I think it's still more likely to be buldermar being the partner than Jason.

In what world are bul and I partners?

[Xalxe]

This is rather obvious, but I'm going to clarify for the sake of avoiding misunderstandings. Since both of Cheery Dog and Leonshade has commented after Xalxe was put on L1, he (Xalxe) is now a confirmed scum.

Ah, yes, logic. Because it couldn't be that you and Jason are both scum, that's impossible.

(Hint: it is not)

(Hint2: this is actually what's going on)

[Xalxe]

I'm not going to disregard part of my information just because it's not available to you.

This is because the bit you have is that you are scum, there's literally no other way about it.

[Xalxe]

I don't think there's use in prolonging this day any longer.

@Xalxe:

Claim.

What would I claim but VT? If I was anything else, I'd have said so by now.

[Xalxe]

Leon, CD and Jason: if you want me to respond to Xalxe, I will.

Fuck's sake, could you please be more anti-town? Do you not understand how this

literally isn't helping?

[Xalxe]

This is rather obvious, but I'm going to clarify for the sake of avoiding misunderstandings. Since both of Cheery Dog and Leonshade has commented after Xalxe was put on L1, he (Xalxe) is now a confirmed scum.

Ah, yes, logic. Because it couldn't be that you and Jason are both scum, that's impossible.

(Hint: it is not)

(Hint2: this is actually what's going on)

Yes, that is impossible when I'm town.

But you're not, so there's that.

[Xalxe]

This is literally he-said he-said at this point.

[Xalxe]

This is literally he-said he-said at this point.

Stop acting surprised - I'm not going to pretend that there is a chance for you to not be scum when there isn't one. With your

supposed

experience, you should know that.

And I'm not going to pretend you're not either, so we're stuck. And I don't appreciate the bolded, though it's an excellent attempt to undermine me.

[Xalxe]

Well now I feel super dumb. I got RR's "tiercescum" view out of this post (which I knew wasn't the one I quoted):

Quite a lot of us hadn't a clue what was going on but two questions to Tierce about why she was voting for her slot, when it was plainly obvious that ovyo had nothing to do with the vote, made me think that she wasn't just in awe of Tierce or intimidated by Buldemar's vocabulary, it made me think she was nervous and couldn't see a way of getting people to unvote her, well, because she is scum.

Fun fact: once you muddle through the syntax there, he's talking about ovyo. So that's a thing.

Also, I would've started by voting for Tierce because 1) how is she not dead and 2) mostly gut. I'm not saying I would've been gung-ho EVERYBODY KILL THE FUCK OUT OF TIERCE, but I probably would've opened with a vote on her.

[Xalxe]

Well thanks for blowing it.