Newbie 1289 - Game Over!

[Leonshade]

I've only read what's been posted after I replaced in, but I'm not convinced of Tierce's plan just yet. I'll have to read through the game to see if I agree with her.

UNVOTE: buldermar

[Leonshade]

Loving the crickets from both Leonshade and Cheery Dog. Especially that one from Leonshade. If you only read what's posted after you replaced in and you were Town, you might not be voting yet, sure, but how come that would not convince you of the plan when logically the scum in the plan are Deltabacon and Cheery Dog?

Huh? I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. Why would Delta and Cheery being scum in your plan convince me of your plan? I haven't read the game yet, so I don't have strong opinions on who is scum. I'll read the game tomorrow, and then I'll get back to you on who is scum. I'm not going to vote for Delta just because you say so.

[Leonshade]

And that delaying tactic should seal it for you.

There's a week left until the deadline and I just replaced in. Give a guy a break here.

[Leonshade]

I'll have more time tomorrow. Checking in takes little to no time, reading through a topic takes a lot longer.

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He claimed VT in the post where he voted for me.

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I'm now caught up. I'm not buying Delta's supposed gambit at all. There's no way he tunneled Tierce to "appear scummy". This is scum flailing around trying to not get lynched.

PEDIT:

@Buldermar:

I was going to vote for Delta, but this changes a lot. That explains why Tierce has her autopilot plan, it does look like one of us is scum with Delta. I think the plan, as is, makes the most sense. We're most likely going to hit at least one, if not both scum that way.

PEDIT2: Was gonna vote for Delta, but now he's at L-1. He's already claimed, but I still want to hear Jason's thoughts on this new development (and everyone else's, in case they didn't know about this already).

[Leonshade]

Yeah, I hope no one will feel sour about mafia because of what happened. Mafia can be great, but I'm afraid this game won't turn out to be all that fun.

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Yeah, to be honest the strategy doesn't lend itself to forum mafia. I won't be using it again in a hurry.

Announcing intent to Self-Hammer.

No, I'm going to hammer you when I think today's discussion is over. I'd like to see Airick and RedRabbit (and ideally Vendetta) to post their final thoughts before I hammer you.

[Leonshade]

Yeah, this is going nowhere.

VOTE: Deltabacon

[Leonshade]

I think there's a lot of merit to the idea of our cheater being an idiot. I'm not sure how to analyze his actions. This game is a mess.

Also, happy birthday, CD.

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I think there's a lot of merit to the idea of our cheater being an idiot. I'm not sure how to analyze his actions. This game is a mess.

Isn't cheating idiotic in the first place? I'd be more surprised if someone argued that he is a genius.

There's a difference between cheating in an attempt to win and... whatever he did. I'm not sure we can know what he was trying to do. Was he going for a town win or a scum win? Was he just doing stuff for kicks?

I'm having a hard time getting a read on anyone simply due to the nature of this game. It's like D1 except we can afford one mislynch less.

[Leonshade]

Airick needs to start posting, that slot needs to get more active and this game has already had more than enough replacements.

I can't really be bothered with reading all of buldermar's walls, so I'll stick with that town read other people have given him. I don't see any scum writing out that much to make their points.

I think Buldermar's word count is a tell about his personality, not alignment. I wouldn't write him off just because he likes writing a lot.

Your superiority complex is really quite irksome.

This is my final response to a post of yours or anything that resembles your opinion on any matter related directly or indirectly to this game in any shape or form, including but not limited to quotes of your posts, paraphrases and the like. I will not tolerate your insults, no matter the amount of posts or friends you've made on this forum. Goodbye and good night.

While I understand what you're doing, I don't think this is going to be possible while still trying to play to your win condition.

[Leonshade]

The mod wouldn't mention it if someone got protected during the night. The next day would just start with no deaths.

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The mod wouldn't mention it if someone got protected during the night. The next day would just start with no deaths.

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Sorry about the double-post, Firefox screwed up.

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@Airick:

I'm a bit confused. Are you going with Delta's theory simply because he flipped town?

[Leonshade]

- I do not see any other scum reads during this day so far to say who is scum or not. I agree with JasonWazza's take on Tierce, but hasn't really gotten any legs, especially while Tierce is hibernating.

This is a good point. We don't have much to go on, so we need to go with what little we have. I don't really buy Delta's theory, but were it true, I would have to vote for CD, knowing that I'm town. Jason's case, which is still better than anything I have, indicates Tierce and either me or CD. CD is the common denominator in both of these cases.

VOTE: CheeryDog

[Leonshade]

- I do not see any other scum reads during this day so far to say who is scum or not. I agree with JasonWazza's take on Tierce, but hasn't really gotten any legs, especially while Tierce is hibernating.

This is a good point. We don't have much to go on, so we need to go with what little we have. I don't really buy Delta's theory, but were it true, I would have to vote for CD, knowing that I'm town. Jason's case, which is still better than anything I have, indicates Tierce and either me or CD. CD is the common denominator in both of these cases.

VOTE: CheeryDog

Some of the points made by Jason are yet to be refuted by Tierce. Do you have reason to refute these points or, alternatively, why do you think CD is a better choice than Tierce?

I'm not going to refute Jason's points. I just have nothing to add to Jason's case, and I don't want to sheep him just yet. I am looking forward to Tierce's response, though.

[Leonshade]

Nothing to really talk about. This game is confusing. We need to get a wagon going. Since Jason has an actual case on someone, I'll sheep him.

VOTE: Tierce

[Leonshade]

UNVOTE: Tierce, she's probtown.

I'm pretty tired right now, but I'm interested in this Airick wagon as well. Will look into it once I can think better.

[Leonshade]

Yes, claim. I'm willing to hammer.

[Leonshade]

Tierce's case on me reflects actions in D1, and very little in D2. She has called my vote cheap with poor justification. Instead of really diving into the D2 analysis, the focus stays on D1 play and what she says is lurkiness on my part. I will point out that through all of the headaches from this game, Tierce, buldermar, and I are the only originals left. Tierce led the DeltaBacon lynch, and she's leading this lynch.

Isn't your case based mostly on what happened D1, too? Seems odd of you to call her out on this. Most of D2 has been people discussing D1, anyway. It's been an uneventful day.

Although CD has challenged a few points on both sides, Leonshade appears to follow what the popular mob is doing.

He's even said in post #400 that the game is confusing and we need to get a wagon going. Well, the wagon is here and he's ready to hammer.

I'm not sure what you're trying to say with the bolded part.

[Leonshade]

I'm willing to hammer Airick any time. If CD thinks there's something left to this day, though, I'll wait on him.

[Leonshade]

It doesn't look like anything else will be achieved today.

VOTE: Airick

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@Xalxe: What would've been your reasons for wagoning Tierce?

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@Cheery:

I don't have strong scumreads on anyone. Your point about the no-lynch not necessarily being town has been noted, but I'm still feeling Jason as town-ish. Out of Xalxe, buldermar and you, I could pick any two as scum. I'll have to do some re-reading, see if I can find something.

[Leonshade]

I'm also against a massclaim, for a JK claim, provided the JK has something useful.

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I'm not sure what other discussion we can have. Re-reading stuff is really the only thing we have.

Like I've said before, this game is confusing.

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@CD:

Do you think bulder is more likely to be scum, or would you just vote for him to make either option possible?

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From looking through the VCs, it appears that buldermar and the vendetta/Xalxe spot have NEVER been on the same wagon together. Distancing, maybe?

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I could see buldermar's silence-treatment against Xalxe as a clever form of distancing, too. Hmm.

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That only works when there's one scum left, bulder. Otherwise it could be the scumpartner who's holding out on voting.

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I don't think there's use in prolonging this day any longer.

@Xalxe:

Claim.

[Leonshade]

I hope you're right about that, CD. I'll try to put my vote down ASAP.

[Leonshade]

This is what happens when I'm indecisive =/

Good game guys, I'm just glad this screwed up game is over.