Yet Another Dance of the Title Fairy: Change Up

[zoraster]

yeah. i don't really think there's a length of time that we need to wait to give someone a title if it's appropriate.

[zoraster]

At the moment the rational for the age requirement on titles is that we want posters to establish themselves before we start titling them, it also provides a check for staying power of a title. If a title is good now and it won't be relevant for them in a month or two when they hit the six month mark I'm doubtful that it's a really a good title.

Thoughts?

Disagree. If they've established themselves enough that the general consensus is that a title is worthwhile for them, then they're established, whether they've been here for 2 months or 5 years.

Relevancy of a title is always an issue. We have plenty of people with titles that don't relate to anything relevant anymore. Wikid, Professor Paragon, even my title. Reck's still resonates, but even it says GD when his thread is in F62.

In other words: there's no need for the requirement because it's OTHER people nominating players. If we had a bunch of people who had been here 3 weeks coming in and nominating themselves, then a rule might be worth it. But there's really no need for an artificial requirement now.

[zoraster]

i actually liked

Stranger Danger

[zoraster]

Stranger Danger is leaps and bounds better than just Stranger. I would not be in favor of him just being "Stranger" as that'll be inscrutable in a year or two from now.

[zoraster]

titles aren't about deserving something or not. They are not awards.

[zoraster]

kinda prefer Gabriel.

[zoraster]

I like EGOT, but I don't like Egotistical. While Vi clearly likes his shiny things (and let's be honest, most of us do), I don't think he's particularly egotistical.

[zoraster]

You really think that winning Best Mafia Discussion/Wiki poster and Paragon of Scumhunters is our equivalent of an EGOT?

I'd argue that winning Paragon, Don Corleone and Third Party is ours. Not that there's anything wrong with the Professor award; just that in the pantheon of individual awards, it's not super high up there.

[zoraster]

TBM, too quick though? The suggestion wasn't even 12 hours old.

Enough discussion to reach a consensus on one or two variations of a title, five scummers supporting it and my approval are the only requirements for a title, time isn't a factor at all.

Awesome. Thanks for the swiftness of your judgment and action, fairy.

[zoraster]

Not Here to Make Friends

[zoraster]

it's basically just a clip from every reality tv show ever (including Survivor for what it's worth) where someone inevitably says, "I'm not here to make friends."

[zoraster]

Oh. In that case I put my title back in my pocket (because it's kind of a great title and should go to someone who it fits) and suggest:

Et tu?

[zoraster]

I love

Ides of Mash

. Puns are as essential to the title industry as they are to the porn, pet store and child hair salon industries.

[zoraster]

fun to give someone with 0 posts a title!

[zoraster]

I don't really care about the rule, but you will not effing take away puns. Nonnegotiable.

[zoraster]

puns are often made out of homonyms.

The pun, also called paronomasia, is a form of word play which suggests two or more meanings, by exploiting multiple meanings of words, or of similar-sounding words, for an intended humorous or rhetorical effect.[1][2] These ambiguities can arise from the intentional use and abuse of

homophonic

, homographic, metonymic, or metaphorical language.

Which side do you really want to take? Shakespeare's pun-filled awesomeness or Samuel Johnson's dour dictionary writing? (Johnson is the one that said, "puns are the lowest form of humour.")

[zoraster]

This is a greatly superior method to the prior one. Speed titling is perfectly fine. And if you really think of a better one, we now have a title fairy that will change old titles. Perfection is the enemy of good.

ani is mostly right here, and you guys are being ridiculous.

[zoraster]

Dolores is not a good title to my eyes.

Trees for the Forest

[zoraster]

I dunno, I think it still works. It's not like it was just the thread. It's his general personality, no?

[zoraster]

The issue is it's only said in real life, there isn't a pattern of that being said on the forum.

It's a pattern of it being said on the forum in the title threads; is that enough?

[zoraster]

also, goddammit came from a mafiascum game.

[zoraster]

i like Hard Asses better.

Hard Assen

kind of amuses me, but is probably too complicated to really be funny.

[zoraster]

confused waterspanner?

[zoraster]

well, mine actually referred to his name, not any other confusion, but it was a terrible title.

[zoraster]

don't clap your hands. don't say you believe in faeries.

[zoraster]

one of my sigs was an amortization of a title. I am the sig loan officer.

[zoraster]

I'd prefer something that refers to his obvious (and ironic) feelings of cultural superiority, but Frisian Shoulder Demon at least sounds pretty cool.

[zoraster]

These are Happy Tears makes a reference to his avatar but isn't ABOUT his avatar. Sure, it makes the joke work a little better, but the overall purpose behind it is still served if he changes his avatar.

[zoraster]

other than a play on adorable, is there a reason for this? Brandi got Awwtist because she frequently posts cute things and draws cute things. I never really got that that was noraaa's "thing" so to speak.

[zoraster]

Yup.

[zoraster]

undeserved flak he gets.

Scapegoat

?

[zoraster]

How so? I don't think of being anti-piracy as remotely weird.

[zoraster]

semi-colon compromise?

[zoraster]

I lean toward

Dr. Feelgood

. For one thing, it just seems like much more of a TITLE than Relax, I got this.

[zoraster]

i agree with Umbrage. the third S just looks misplaced.

that said, I think the whole, "he's a plural" thing is a pretty lame joke anyway. I'd just avoid it altogether.

[zoraster]

Untitled Fairy

[zoraster]

and that he doesn't have a title yet is the fairy and he's fought having a title?

[zoraster]

no, but the fact that he resisted a title as the title fairy will be forever, much like him being a hardass about things is pretty tied into him being the title fairy.

[zoraster]

why?

[zoraster]

he won't. this is one of the reasons he's a great title fairy: he'll just pick one and go without necessarily getting 100% consent. But he wants admins to give him one for whatever reason, and admins won't step in if there's division.

[zoraster]

Scanned a bit, but I'm seeing

Hardasses

and

Hardasss

for TBM, as well as various incarnations of the Fairy meme which aren't really gaining a whole lot of traction IMO.

The spelling thing is pretty compelling to me, but I'll let TBM veto it if he wants. Will probably make a decision after the weekend if no other strong contenders come forward. Keep talking!

The spelling thing has to be the lamest idea we've had. Even lamer than the "buttonmen is plural" thing. TBM is not a particularly bad speller, and even if he is, that's hardly noteworthy.

[zoraster]

wow. even UN didn't come in with a terrible alternative to this. must be a winner!

[zoraster]

irony, i'd imagine

[zoraster]

It's a little weird since the title basically relies on the fact that another suggested title for him had the worst "ass" in it and its weird to base a title on another title, but it seems good enough.

[zoraster]

Best Performance: Fairy

[zoraster]

truthfully, i kind of feel like the title fairy of the day should always have the title of Title Fairy until he or she steps down just so people don't spend their thinking power just trying to get the Title Fairy a title. Also, descriptive.

[zoraster]

well it works because it's a title and he's the title fairy. he doesn't get a colored name. Anyway, the point is to stop endless discussion about it, not to maintain some sort of consistency.

[zoraster]

The Superiority Complex

[zoraster]

It's funny, but it's a bad idea. You don't really want new people confused about who's an admin.

[zoraster]

Vudoo Apparition

[zoraster]

adrnin a

much

better title, but it's just not a good idea. I don't think Charnber is funny at all and it only slightly relates to the thing. Also, it kinda look like a pokemon name.

although I wonder if either look silly if it's not bolded. The r and n move farther apart, no?

[zoraster]

What's the reasoning behind that title? is it that UN has split personalities?

[zoraster]

No Boundaries

[zoraster]

Nominate Untrod Tripod for

Image is Everything

for his love of posting gifs and images in response to just about everything, no matter how confusing that might be.

For those not familiar with the Andres Agassi reference:



PS. Yes, I know he already has a title. I like this one better.

[zoraster]

Image is Everything is better.

[zoraster]

I don't really get the sassy thing from UT...

Once again,

titles

are deserving or aren't deserving, not users.

[zoraster]

I liked Beloved

or maybe Toni Morrison

[zoraster]

Number One Scumma

Spoiler: ?

[zoraster]

i like that.

don't like the bicurious stuff. Popular! doesn't have any oomf to it. Still like Number One Scumma.

[zoraster]

The title of the song is "Number One Stunna" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_One_Stunna

EDIT: Jesus. You were only 5 when that song came out.

[zoraster]

The head of the Speakeasy:

Al Capone

[zoraster]

maybe so, but I can think of one person in total who has been retitled, and that's Flay. There may be others, but none come to mind. My point being that titles are more or less permanent.

[zoraster]

who

[zoraster]

I like Least Unpopular

[zoraster]

Miss Congeniality is an award given to a runner-up contestant in a beauty pageant for being "nice" i guess.

[zoraster]

what's miss congeniality?

[zoraster]

really?

[zoraster]

i just mean... do you think that's particularly notable in a mafia community?

[zoraster]

*shrug*

[zoraster]

3rd

[zoraster]

Purely for weirdness, I'll give that a

2nd

[zoraster]

Faraday has had at least 5. But his title is actually about that (specifically about his inability to post on the right account)

[zoraster]

hoppy

[zoraster]

is there a problem of being no more than a pun about hydras?

[zoraster]

i mean, the term "Heads Will Roll" is a very common phrase, long before the Yeah Yeah Yeahs.

[zoraster]

yeah. as in "people are going to get punished/screamed at/etc if this thing doesn't happen." or "if they don't fix my cable by six tonight, heads will roll"

but yes, the violent implication (i.e. people are going to get their heads chopped off) is enough to make it appropriate for a mafia setting.

Still, I like Hydrated better.

[zoraster]

dude. he's a SLIME. please be more conscientious.

[zoraster]

that's starting to get into too long territory.

[zoraster]

that's actually a really good point. can we save that one for someone who hates hydras?

[zoraster]

yeah. plus someone who really hated them and managed to reduce their use would probably better be

Hercules

[zoraster]

Amethyst Tryst

[zoraster]

I demand a title that requires at least 10 steps to explain.

[zoraster]

I really, really like the idea of every single hydra with her in it having that title.

[zoraster]

I'd be okay with only applying it to hydras that she's had UP TO now.

[zoraster]

hear, hear!

[zoraster]

Mafia Scum

it is then!

[zoraster]

Because it's pretty meh. I think this is one of those cases where a person turns down a title that was widely accepted -- as is his right -- but means there should probably be a cooling off period. No need to search for further titles for some time now.

[zoraster]

It's just too bad he abdicated.

[zoraster]

hito's is more adorable though

[zoraster]

Snark Attack!

for SK

[zoraster]

it's avatar based, but it'll still mean something if he changes it.

[zoraster]

seems minor to me. whatever SK wants on that one.

[zoraster]

i don't know anything about it, but kdowns case makes me want to give snakes the title.

when oman was in charge barely any titles were given out toward the end, so maybe that's why you think there's some amazing standard, maestro. Titles shouldn't be hoarded like they're somehow devalued by people getting them. my title is no less good or bad because more people are getting titles.

[zoraster]

Van Trocious isn't bad

[zoraster]

Like Flynn

[zoraster]

[zoraster]

You guys understand that it'll look like this, right???

N

N stitches

[zoraster]

2nd for

This is my title which I was awarded

for being exceptionally verbose. I'm trying to get

better about it but it is difficult to be concise. That doesn't

mean that it isn't important to be concise, just that I struggle

with it at times, which only serves to emphasize for me how important it is

to be concise, and not verbose.

Nth

[zoraster]

my general policy is that once someone declines a great title for themselves, we should stop for like... 6 months or so. That's particularly true if they SUGGEST a different title for themselves (and even more particularly if that title they suggest is positive sounding, as "every word counts" so obviously is. I know you think your legacy is both being wordy and advocating brevity, but really it's just that you're wordy).

also, those alternative mastin titles are not good.

[zoraster]

that's a bad suggestion.

o and th are both terrible titles for N. It sounds funny here, but the humor will be lost when it's actually on it.

[zoraster]

nominations tend to bounce off each other too. and the more people reading the thread at a time thinking about nominations for person A the more likely they are to start to brainstorm about other people they think have something about them that warrants a nomination.

[zoraster]

Metal Sonic ->

Not the Blue Blur

We should give him the exact opposite of what he wants.

Orange in Sharp Contrast

[zoraster]

excellent. Much pithier.

[zoraster]

should it be

The Static Orange

?

[zoraster]

ew. no. too far and kills the joke.

[zoraster]

Nominate FakeGod for Wet Blanket

[zoraster]

Perhaps the following should be his title:

[zoraster]

for the record, I still think Orange Static or Orange in Sharp Contrast are the best options.

The situation is kind of funny not because he asked for a title, there have been dozens of people who have done that and we usually don't do anything about that. It's that he asked for a title and it was so specific and weird: The Blue Blur. Which is kind of funny on its own, but funnier still when reversed and yet makes almost as much sense.

[zoraster]

what the likelihood that as a group we actually give someone a title they want if they try the same thing? we're a mob. we don't exactly work on precedent. I'd rather give titles that amuse us as a community, not use it as some sort of greater justice thing.

[zoraster]

I don't get all the dumb rules that go with titles.

People who ask for one get a slap on the wrist and cant have one? If a title fits, let them have it. I get that we don't want to force titles on people, but we're so freaking slow at this process anyways that someone asking for a title shouldn't just give them a probation period from getting one.

I agree with this. Yes, sometimes it hurts when titles are stupid. And no one likes the guy who tries to give himself a nickname (though I'll point out that with a few exceptions we are ALL using names we gave ourselves). But let's focus on the fun of it rather than the self-righteousness of it. If a name either fits or is funny or both, give them the title.

[zoraster]

I'm not sure which way you're making that point, quadz.

[zoraster]

Remember that anyone given a title can decline it. If FakeGod didn't feel like the joke was in good fun (as intended), he can decline it. If he's the self-deprecating kind of person, he may like it. If it's a good title, let him decide! Same goes with the Metal Sonic titles.

[zoraster]

as did MS and Orange in Sharp Contrast, don't sell it short!

[zoraster]

's On First

[zoraster]

dunnit

[zoraster]

Is that allowed? I forget the Byzantine rules around the super serious titling method. Of not:

Nominate feirei for e before i

[zoraster]

Is that allowed? I forget the Byzantine rules around the super serious titling method. Of not:

Nominate feirei for e before i

You're the one who butchered my name at least 20 times, 18 in a mish-mash thread in 2 posts.

I regret nothing.

[zoraster]

Nominate notscience for ©2014

[zoraster]

really excited that the idea was his and his alone. claims credit for it

[zoraster]

sorry?

[zoraster]

Nominate Astinus for

©2014

hahahaha

[zoraster]

You are not alone. He currently holds the 1st, 2nd and 3rd Mod Scores from the large theme surveys (out of 63 games), and he really should have won a scummy for last year.

#	Game was fun	Play in another?	Mod Overall	Vote Counts	Balance	Mechanic	Flavor	Mod Score
1	Xenoblade Mafia	Mafia of the Raptured	Xenogears Mafia	Xenosaga	Xenogears Mafia	Event Card Mafia	Xenogears Mafia	Xenogears Mafia
2	Red Wedding Mafia	Mobile Suit Gundam	Xenosaga	Mafia of the Raptured	Fall of Gondolin	You could be anyone	Fall of Gondolin	Xenoblade Mafia
3	You could be anyone	Xenogears Mafia	Mafia of the Raptured	Xenoblade Mafia	Mafia of the Raptured	Mafia of the Raptured	Mobile Suit Gundam	Xenosaga
4	Xenosaga	Xenoblade Mafia	Xenoblade Mafia	Xenogears Mafia	Mobile Suit Gundam	Amnesiac	WWE Believe in the Shield	Mobile Suit Gundam
5	WWE Believe in the Shield	The Wire 1	Mobile Suit Gundam	Mobile Suit Gundam	WWE Believe in the Shield	Mafia with the Quickness	Xenoblade Mafia	Mafia of the Raptured

(only games with 8 or more survey responses included)

[zoraster]

explain?

[zoraster]

That's not good

[zoraster]

Nominate bork for

Xenophile

2nd

[zoraster]

explain?

Ok dhalik

EXPLAINNNN?!?

[zoraster]

i did laugh, but obviously not.

[zoraster]

yes it was.

[zoraster]

Being a newbie is completely forgivable (or rather isn't something that needs to be forgiven). But there isn't a site I know of that loves people posting stuff other people wrote and trying to pass it off as your own.

[zoraster]

I think he's making a I Am The Walrus joke, but

I Am The Walrus

(or

Ringo Star

) would be better nominations if we're doing that. Still, avatar nominations and all means unless there's something else to it, it doesn't seem like a likely route.

Reference:

[zoraster]

Phew. TBM earns his keep.

[zoraster]

Good idea or bad idea?

Pseudo_Nym

for

Hat or Egg

.

it's possibly the most boring schtick on the site right now. I even prefer CD's

[zoraster]

it'd be a way better title if khan wasn't already in his username.

[zoraster]

If you're doing a new title for KK do a new one not just a reformatting.

Zookeeper
The Sass Menagerie

[zoraster]

What?

[zoraster]

I know. Why? Because he posts gifs?

[zoraster]

nominate Malakittens

for

Just a Phrase

We are totally no lynching this

day phrase

. I'm totally just kidding. ;D

Anyways for real. No lynching does more harm than it does good. It gives information for town to use in the future.

Do you realize you have been auto-correcting the word

phase

for a year and a half? Search your posts site-wide for "day phrase"

was going to nominate her earlier, but we were in an ongoing game when I found this (and then searched her posts for "day phrase" and "phrase"), wanted to play it safe.

also if the title makes her stop auto-correcting it's a self-fulfilling prophecy

this title is probably terrible

'

3rd

Also want to bump KK's

The Sass Menagerie

[zoraster]

Nominate SleepyKrew for

[zoraster]

nominate Reck for

GD is my Bestman

for some reason i thought this had already been nominated.

But since it hasn't: strong

2nd

[zoraster]

"GD is my Best Man"

G is the 7th letter of the alphabet

C is the 3rd letter, B is the 2nd letter.

3rd letter + 2nd letter + 2 total letters = 7, 7=G, therefore GD = CDB, CDB is my Best Man confirmed

Nominate CDB for

Channel Delibird

this thread delivers time and time again.

[zoraster]

Nominate EspeciallytheLies for Home Improvement

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=86&t=59509

Also possible: This Old House and Little House on the Prairie

[zoraster]

House of Lies

?

oh! I like that one.

[zoraster]

I think it looks better without.

[zoraster]

oh. that's a good point.

[zoraster]

That is so much worse

[zoraster]

The Sass Menagerie

should be adopted already so we can rid ourselves of this argument.

[zoraster]

Why Trojan?

[zoraster]

Good lord. Even N is for Normal is better than those.

I don't know that playing off N is the right way to go with a title for him.

[zoraster]

Has his name in the title. Khan man all over

[zoraster]

why would sheets be a superior title to shades?

[zoraster]

technically more users have sepia than black, but only by about 150 and i suspect the mafblack users are more active.

[zoraster]

precisely 46 users use ScuMobile. I don't know how many of them are TBM alts.

[zoraster]

Just wait for the ressurection of MafTigers

[zoraster]

why? my phone does real websites just fine.

[zoraster]

More realistically I use my phone for about 10% of my MS stuff. It doesn't make much sense to keep it in scumobile for that.

[zoraster]

When a king is coronated, he doesn't put the crown on his head himself. In any event, this job is supposed to mostly be fun for the person doing it. If you're too busy and it's become way more of a job, let's put someone else do it.. Normally we do staff announcements and what not, but it seems appropriate to the thread for users to nominate other people and someone come in afterwards to decree by despotic fiat who will take over.

[zoraster]

Sentencing Order: SleepyKrew

The defendant has entered a plea of guilty before the Court of Titles on March 28th, 2015 to one count of standing around not looking busy. On that same date the defendant waived his right to a penalty phase jury and the court began the penalty phase at a non-jury hearing on March 29th, 2015. The parties presented matters in aggravation and mitigation during the penalty phase hearing. The court now finds as follows:

1. SleepyKrew guilt on the charge of standing around not looking busy has been established beyond a reasonable doubt.

2. SleepyKrew has expressed a sincere desire to atone for his actions.

It Is The Judgement Of This Court:

1. For the crime of standing around not looking busy the defendant is hereby sentenced to three years of Title Fairying with the possibility of early parole should a willing successor be found.

Ordered

at Yet Another Dance of the Title Fairy: Change Up, Site Ideas, this 29th day of March, 2015.

Affirmed

I'll keep you both as title fairy for a week or so while you pass on your worldly knowledge

[zoraster]

For real though, Snark Attack way better than anything else.

[zoraster]

people are suggesting a different one for him.