Open 459: There is a New Scum in Town. Game Over Town Wins!

[Malakittens]

Fizz is over explaining things. Reads to me as he's over caring what others think of him.

[Malakittens]

......

Well, Mollie just totally smells like town from that reaction, wow.

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Comparing?

I can see town going to read roles in general to find if scum have daytalk or night talk.

Not sure Majiffy, something feels off regarding that. Maybe it was something to spark discussion. Or could have been a possible scum gambit. I was checking past games to see if scum had pregame talk before the game started. I found one which they had been given the pre-confirmation stage to discuss things. Only reason why I did that because I was going to vote those who were last in line to confirm to vote because they are a likely high chance of being scum.

[Malakittens]

I hate people trying to find connections without a flip. I think it's a horrible.
Trying to find scum with connections after a flip is better. If it's a scum flip it's even more easier to catch them. =D

[Malakittens]

Then why bother doing it?

I'm a girl so stop calling me a guy. >_>

[Malakittens]

I have posted....

[Malakittens]

Oh help me please. ;_;

Aether, link any two recent scum games and two of your more recent town games. No ongoing.

[Malakittens]

Oh help me please. ;_;

Aether, link any two recent scum games and two of your more recent town games. No ongoing.

Apparently he has none.
He got modkilled as a townie. >.>

[Malakittens]

?

Players aren't confirmed scum unless there's a cop guilty. In that case, I would lynch them that day, but not quick lynch them.

As for their words take it with a grain of salt. I have ways to figure out who's scum/town when they do their last minute lists.

Why are you asking this?

[Malakittens]

Uct:

Have any town reads? Any scum reads?

[Malakittens]

Ask me questions! I'm bored and need something to do.

[Malakittens]

Well. Unless its fizz's town play it can be a meta tell. If its someone other than Fizz that tell should be taken with a grain if salt. Otherwise you are just making excuses for him.

[Malakittens]

Well, I'm going to ask politely for Mollie and Fe to stop this discussion because in the long run it's going to hurt the town.

[Malakittens]

Ask me questions! I'm bored and need something to do.

okay what do you think of majiffy. and nobody's special.

I'm not necessarily really seeing what Maj is tying to make on Aet. So, I can't really tell if its scum trying to build a semi easy case against a townie.
Kinda null-leaning scumish.

As for NS, I'm totally null on him.

[Malakittens]

I'm active lurking??..

[Malakittens]

no.

[Malakittens]

Because I have actually been posting my reads, answering questions and asking questions. I don't see that as "active" lurking. I just see it as being active.

[Malakittens]

Policy lynches to me are considered scummy.
Sometimes they are justified, but other times they are just unfair.

I'll PL lurkers, but that's about it. Plus the lurkers have to do it more when scum rather than town.

[Malakittens]

Like I said it depends on whom it is.

Example: a player lurks more as scum rather than town. If they show that same decision in the game we are playing and the case is justified beyond a shadow of a doubt, I'll vote them.

If the PL is because someone doesn't like them or their play style I won't vote them.

Make sense now?

[Malakittens]

Uct: she, she.. Not he..

[Malakittens]

LS:

Why do you think it's a good thing to hold out your list of reads?

[Malakittens]

The Director,

If that vote is serious which I'm suspecting it is.
Explain what posts make you want to lynch him.

[Malakittens]

Sorry Rach .

[Malakittens]

Honestly, Bork, I usually don't spring up to being active in a game until Day 2. I tend to use night kill analysis to find scum.
There are some games where I have a very accurate reason to vote someone for being scum in Day 1 and will literally sit on their wagon and push until they are lynched.

You might not see it, but every post I make helps me organize reads. Some of the reads are done by gut, but I don't use it as a backbone.

I do agree though that Mollie's post which I asked politely to stop was accidental role fishing, but either way the longer it went on the more it would help scum. I already explained that Mollie was a town read prior and even though that post came after it never changed my read on her.

Even though people call me town after you doesn't exactly mean they are scum parroting reads. I think it means that they are on the same page as you with the read on a certain player.

Since I have time to kill before class. I'm going to go ISO Players whom I barely remember posts. When this happens it means they are floating under my radar and have a good chance of being scum.

[Malakittens]

@ Fizz:

Explain to me in detail all you reads.

Which posts gives you the feeling of why people are scum/town.

[Malakittens]

When I first started reading I was getting a slight scum feel from

Fizz. Reason was because I felt his posts he was acting like he was over caring what people thought of him.
Right now he's pending because I want him to explain his read list to make sure he isn't just making it up.

Fee's rolefishing and lack of reads overall was a bit scummy to me. Even though he says he receives emails which give notification he's still giving lack of reads until asked too.

I didn't like LS post #236. I think with holding reads to me is scummy. Even if you don't think it's worthwhile it is.

I didn't like Number Six's post regarding to me I'm active lurking. That just pissed me off. Again doesn't necessarily make him a scum read.

I wasn't liking Maj's attitude at first in regards to Aether. I honestly didn't see what he was seeing and I thought he was going overboard. This doesn't necessarily make him a scum read. He just gets put on my "I'm WATCHING you list"

[Malakittens]

When I first saw it; I was like "what the hell is going on"

I saw him start it and it automatically looked like rolefishing. I just didn't know if he did it by accident or if he was doing it on purpose.

When I saw you reply I was like hm, she's still a town read for me regardless, but this conversation is going to hurt the town if it continues. So I posted asking to stop it.
I honestly thought you just got caught up into it without thinking of long-term effects.

[Malakittens]

Oh, I didn't even see the dodge question on Fizz regarding being scum.

Vote: Fizz

[Malakittens]

Unoffical VC:

Please note this is in no order. I did it off ISO's.

NS: pirate mollie
Number 6: Fe, Breakfast
Majiffy: Number 6
Fizz: bork, last survivor, Malakittens, KMD (4)
Fe: NS, Majiffy, penguin, the director, Uct (5)

Not voting: fizz

Takes 8 to lynch with 14 alive.

[Malakittens]

Meh.

[Malakittens]

Alright. Going to be v/la til Monday night. Got a bunch of tests to study for and work this weekend.
Ill try and post a little bit, but not certain.

Noted--Rach

[Malakittens]

Yay.

Aw Buld you did good, but wish you didn't do the sig bet /:

[Malakittens]

Ai wish I wasn't killed so soon, but it was fun to watch :p