Open 459: There is a New Scum in Town. Game Over Town Wins!

[the director]

Aether being Aether. Unfortunately.

[the director]

vote fizz

The ol' reliable nervous first post tell. Complete with a smiley to ease the tension, over explanation next post edit, and fear that he's been caught on something dumb (confirmation method).

We can do whatever we want today, but fizz is defintely scum so his death needs to happen at some point. Preferably Day 1 lynch, but whatever you guys want is cool with me.

The director may also be scum because his post sounds like defending a VI, but aether's actions weren't VI. It tends to look better to defend the easy target than jump on them and I think that's what he was going for.

I've played with Aether before and he always does stupid stuff like that. Its NULL meta read.

VOTE: Fizz

Wagons are good. Depending on Fizz' reaction to an early wagon I might vote for kmd for try-harding so early.

[the director]

^smells like a soft claim to me

[the director]

You roll scum again Majiffy?

[the director]

^Oh good someone who posts like a 14 year old.

[the director]

Daykill: the director

Daykill: pirate mollie

There.

That

problem's solved.

if you are truly the day vig then that was the single most stupid thing I have ever seen in a game ever.

the game has barely begun, not everyone has posted, you don't have a read on me or the director, you put a target on yourself for scum, gaahhhhh

fake eta: although if you are dumb enough to day vig kill right off the bat like that I suppose you are doing me a favour cos I thought that the quality of play would be pretty good in this game and you putting in an order like that with little to no info makes me think that I was wrong!

wut

[the director]

I'm glad you worked that one out on your own.

[the director]

what is your case on those 2

Aether shows scum motivation in regards to comparing VT and Scum role PMs.
KMD's attack on Fizz reads like opportunistic scum.

And you read like scum. Fun stuff.

[the director]

Going with a Fizz/Majif/Pirate team right now.

[the director]

Calling teams on Day One with no flips is, pardon my French, moronic, idiotic, and fucking terrible play.

I say this with the utmost respect, but I hope you get gang-raped.

[the director]

I hate people trying to find connections without a flip. I think it's a horrible.
Trying to find scum with connections after a flip is better. If it's a scum flip it's even more easier to catch them. =D

Captain obvious award goes too .... ^ that guy.

No shit.

[the director]

Malakittens who is not a guy - because reads.

[the director]

Way to inject yourself into the game, mod. No one is getting personal. Vote count, plox.

And you read like scum. Fun stuff.

I find your lack of a vote disturbing.

Well considering I'm voting your more obvious partner, shouldn't be too shocking, bud.

[the director]

Kittens can apparently post in her other game but not this one. This really is too easy.

[the director]

Basically a prod dodge but thank you Mod for replacing those two. Been super busy with school but will try to post something of more substance soon.

My initial snap judgements of my read of what has gone on is that the two top controversial players have been replaced so this is almost a reset of D1. Legitimate reads still exist on D1 part 1 though, so I'm not going to completely ignore it.

Kmd remains suspect for his tryharding so early on, and the fizz wagon sort of got lost in the midst of the Aether-Majiffy spat which needs to be revisited. He was squirming when I last read the game and now he isn't a topic of interest.

PEDIT: Well that is interesting.

[the director]

ALRIGHTY. Finally caught up. I hope you all have had an enjoyable week, I should be much more active moving forward. By the way I found this freaking hilarious: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ . I'm laughing my ass off.

Fe
uctriton00
borkjerfkin
Fizz

Why did you confirm out of thread?

Breakfast, explain the significance of your questions in #16 and #203.

16 - Was wondering if they were feeling too self-aware of their behavior to confirm publicly - i.e. Will it look suspicious if I confirm too early/too late/immediately before/after my scum buddy

203 - I have a potential followup pending a response.

UNVOTE: VOTE: Breakfast

When the game was about to start the idea that scum might be concerned about confirming via PM or in-game. In that way, a scum would be

more

likely to confirm in-game rather than via PM.

This reeks of manipulation. His posting is basically a prototypical scum skipping his way through the game, sorta popping in, asking a few questions or making a comment or two, and then going back underground. He needs some serious heat.

Director, so I am scum for my early game playstyle?

Not all by itself it isn't. You actually come off as a bit of a boy scout, actually.

[the director]

Utc would also suffice as a D1 lynch. Reading his ISO made it clear he is a scum trying to be a "lol im town", but this is just laughably bad:

I've played with Mala before,

he knows wtf he's doing in this game. I have him as town.

Uct: she, she.. Not he..

If you truly have played with "him" before then you would know "he" conciously makes sure to make it known "he" is actually a "female" and wouldn't make that mistake. Of course, your comment on her had nothing to do with the fact she is one of the more obvtown players in the game.

[the director]

the director I also asked you a question. I'm not sure if you've answered it or not. Also that point about Uct was a joke right?

Lastsurvivor I did explain who I thought was scum why they are scum. I am curious why you are just, sorta fine, with me voting Breakfast but you are concerned whether or not my scum read on Utc is a joke.

You are welcome, Fizz, for the rick roll.

[the director]

You made a scum team list, of which you didn't explain why 2/3 of them were scum, which really was what I was curious about.

Also, your rationale for Breakfastscum at least makes sense, even if it's not really strong. Your point about uct is incomprehensible, and I think is just about a typo.

Like omg you are totes right you totes aren't trying to cover up for the fact you are concerned that a townie is sniffing around a scumbuddy that otherwise has escaped suspicion. Totes bro, brofist. And its breakfast

scum

now? Lolz totes cool. U p cool bro.

Yeah I covered why my previous scum list doesn't apply anymore. Have fun pouring through my ISO figuring that one out.

[the director]

But yes I understand, I'm just of to bed now (it's 4am local time) and I'm busy tommorrow but I'll try and squeeze something in at about 8 o'clock this evening or on Sunday morning.

I got a crazy idea. Let's lynch this guy.

VOTE: Fe

[the director]

The Director,

If that vote is serious which I'm suspecting it is.
Explain what posts make you want to lynch him.

He is just prod-dodge skipping through D1. As soon as his name is mentioned he shows up. Very very suspect.

[the director]

Hi all I just want to apologise for not posting anything Recently, I'll try and catch up but I've been really busy recently. If I can't catch up I'll replace out (If you Mod, I can try and find a replacement? )

Lynch this.

[the director]

Sorry to hear that Rach.

[the director]

Rach - I'm sorry for your terrible loss and I wish you and your family the best during this difficult time.

Inside of the game, not much is going on. I'm going to respond to any questions and comments directed at me.

the director, why are you saying (I assume) that Fe's wanting to replace out is scummy, asking others to lynch, but not putting your vote there?

1. I did throw down a vote on Fe, which is where my current vote is.
2. It isn't so much him wanting to replace out, Fe is simply trying to stall so can avoid having to say anything of substance so the suspicions on him go away. I'll explain the logic on this later on in the post.

I can't really get inside the director's head at all. Definitely not seeing why #308 should be some back breaking straw.

See below.

I don't understand the reactions to it. Uct, Fizz, The Director, please explain (also the chances of at least one of you being scum is quite high due to that chain of reactions, and I don't think it's uct).

See below.

Quite slowely given that I have other things on

Below:

Here is what I am seeing. Read Fe's ISO and see what he has posted. Its fluff, its nothing. He literally, had said nothing of substance. He had been called out only hours prior to him posting #303 and #304 which means he is monitoring the game.

So I called for his lynch. One of two things were going to happen:

1. A bump-on-the-log town would be motivated to post in order to avoid posting (or replace out).

or.

2. A bump-on-the-log scum would be scared into posting more.

Both these scenarios made sense to me.

Now here is what Fe is doing. He is reading this game and seeing people attacking his wagon for him. Instead of actively trying to engage in his own defense, Fe is letting what I believe confused town continue to dismantle or at least thwart the wagon. So he is stalling and rolling the dice that he can evade suspicion by having everyone else do the work for him. I know people should be encouraged to comment on current wagons, but in this case since we are waiting for mods and prods to go out (I believe some players are days past the 48 hour deadline), force Fe to defend what he is doing and post reads, or replace out, or we lynch him. If we dictate the terms to him he has nowhere to go but either out of the game (willingly or otherwise), or actually post substance.

[the director]

D1 post #16, and Breakfast is already looking for an easy lynch, this leads to Fizz’s response, KMD’s (#22)anylasis which causes much of the early day one wagon. Fizz’s response to NS’s #27 is just terrible. I mean, come on, of all the ways he could of said no. But since this would look like a Mafia who is not comfortable with lying and this game is all about lying, im going to but it down to inexperience. Penguins late jump on the Fizz wagon in #38 is suspicious to say the least, (also if Fizz is scum look at either Majiffy/Declan for possibly trying to divert attention elsewhere). Aethers jump on Fizz’s wagon (#39) is vaguely understandable coming from the fact that obviously he doesn’t want to see his own lynch thus goes on the biggest one going.
Them there is a couple of walls going on with KMD asking questions and Fizz slowly getting himself tangled (i.e. #44) and the fact that he is very kean to make sure that everyone thinks well of him. Pirates invade in #50 and sort of soft-defends Fizz with his join-date, a practise that is generally not a good indicator of skill. NS try’s to DayKill the border, and she goes on the defensive, before realising she may have been a little special. I personally think this is more of a scummy vibe given that how quickly she goes on the defensive. TheDirector gets personal and wishes NS to be gang raped, I put this down as a town-tell as no scum would really want to annoy a townie this early in the game.
Then the Director seams to go about his mission to suspect everyone in the game, I would have to put this down as a scum thing as they don’t want to be specific about what they are doing, so they have every reason to think that scum could easily just keep on changing their reads (#67, #76 etc.). Then Aether turns up and is a distraction for (#84 - #113) during which time, Majifiy gets massive town points for his consistent application of pressure despite Aether being really unresponsive (e.g. #87) Majifiy defending Fizz in #106 and Kittens #107 again show both Mala and Majifiy in a very townie light. However #110 by Fizz, shows scum getting rather panicked by a day 1 lynch (although I have seen people as town do the same, it normally comes from scum). Then in #120 I make a silly mistake and we get quickly stopped by Kittens.
Declan’s suspisons in #132, seams odd given that in the games I have played with him he tends to be quite active as town (sample size = 1) Again penguin comes in with a half-assed case in #12², and pirate seems to defend Aether in (#149), possible buddying as scum to townie in order to seem townie when he flips town (ashuming that he wasn’t one of her scum buddies that is). Aether carries on being Aether and KMD despairs. Bork pops up without much content (yes I know I can’t talk) Declan starts to post more, and Majifiy requests replacement #173. Then Aether gets force replaced hurrah! Then fitz replaces in and out (Im quite glad of this, fitz and fizz could get confusing).
Town adjusts themselves and I get suspiouns, I would like to know why of all the lurkers N6 thinks I am scum but other than that bork seams to be sheeping n6. Penguin comes and shows not much really. #236 last survivor shows up and starts actively scum hunting, but then holds out his reads, very weird. Then Majifiy starts quoting lyrics, exciting stuff. Uct / KMD possible early bussing attempt? (#246) N6 gets town points for decoding Majiffies post.

Thats what I have got to so far (I didn't want to post till it was complete but nevermind) And P.s. its less monitoring more I get an email every-time someone posts so I know when to check it.

So literally 15 minutes later you puke this stuff out.

[the director]

the director, you didn't answer my question.

Maybe break it might help to break it down into bits and pieces that clearly communicate your confusion of how Fe, who was LITERALLY unable to post seriously, has LITERALLY tried to post seriously, LITERALLY minutes after I posted how, he, LITERALLY, couldn't do that up to now.

Confused? Explain your confusion.

[the director]

I am still confused, yes.

You still haven't explained why post 317 is scummy. I understand why you think Fe is scum, so you don't have to explain again, but what about #317 made you call for others to "Lynch this"?

I'll answer your question with a question. Why would someone looking for a replacement still be posting?

[the director]

kmd I have some strong opinions about that word "retarded" and I feel completely opposite than you. I think when you treat the word "retarded" as an insult it is actually insulting to the people who are medically retarded cos it implies that being retarded is a bad thing.

Since this topic keeps coming up I figured I would comment.

1. Getting a little personal with someone is okay in small doses. It can, in the right situation, get reads that are useful for the game. Basically get someone a little taken aback and maybe post something that could reveal a hand. For scum it could be to find a PR, for town it could be to find scum. Being seen as a "bully" can also help with getting votes on or off a wagon. It is an art, though.

2. That being said, this still is a game, so getting overly and unnecessarily personal is just poor sportsmanship.

Now back to the game. Fe's 361 is just an incoherent data dump. I really really think he is paranoid about posting so just decided to flood a bunch of information with little analysis in hopes that any potential scumtells would not be seen or ignored.

LastSurvivor - I did explain my thoughts in context of the game at the time. His post sounded like a player who was trying to stall having to post substance. If you still don't get it then you probably never will, or are being obtuse.

[the director]

Happy Thanksgiving to my fellow American players!

[the director]

Also, I find it suspicious that you had time to do a VC but not enough time to put forward any content.

I'm becoming more and more convinced that Fe is just too scared to post and is trying to keep his head down long enough for Fizz or someone else to become the flavor of the moment.

[the director]

Prod dodge basically. Second the motion that Fe needs to claim.

[the director]

So three pages pop up and somehow Fe still hasn't been lynched. BLAH BLAH BLAH someone hammer and we can get this game moving, finally.

[the director]

I feel like I am taking stupid pills

[the director]

Caught up. Finding Majiffy vs. Nachomamma as hilarious as always, which is to say not at all. Fe is scum, but I ain't hammering tonight. Don't like Director; think he's sorta scummy, though it may just be contentless town posting.

It is twilight for those of you who are pretending to be clueless. OH HI BRO

[the director]

super eager mcbeaver lets get this kid to l-1

VOTE: bork

[the director]

no you are

[the director]

You missed your chance to claim town cred. Off wagon now trying to effort post? Good luck kid. Vote this.

[the director]

You weren't on the Fe wagon. Now you have to answer for that. It really isn't that hard to understand, son.

I'll make it super basic. Why weren't you on the Fe wagon? Why did you vote NS?

[the director]

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[the director]

Hey bork i like to be wined and dined before I'm effed. In other words more votes on you would be most excellent.

[the director]

I have my reasons.

[the director]

And from this point forward unless you are voting Bork I will not respond to you.

[the director]

And the townish thing to do would be to share those reasons with us.

Oh god I hope I can appear townish.

[the director]

Vote: the director

That's just stupid.

So scum is you and bork? Thanks GG.

[the director]

That's how the Holocaust happened.

False. Requires more Hitler.

[the director]

Alrighty back to posting serious.

For what it's worth, I consider the director to be a strong town read. He jumped around with his vote a bit at the start of last day phase, but he was the first to call out Fe and didn't relent anywhere for the rest of the phase. That would be a pretty hard bus to swallow. Which is making me look rather askance at Nobody Special.

The problem with Fe is that he was so obviously scum and so bad at defending himself that I can see one or both of his buddies long bussing him almost from the moment I called him out and Fe started to stumble. Here are the people who had interactions with Fe that struck me as off:

Bork was on the fence about Fe for most of yesterday, and never ended up on his wagon. I wanted to mess with him for a bit.

Nacho comes out of the gate and calls Fe "town" and a bad lynch, but ends up voting for Fe. Was Nacho initially trying to save Fe and then surrendered to the fact the guy was found?

Majiffy - he has no qualms with long-bussing, but meta alone isn't enough. My biggest 'wtf' moment yesterday was when Fe posted his reads calling Majiffy super town and "town leader" (Post #456), and then in his very next post Majiffy plummets to scum in Fe's reads (Post #473) . In between Fe's two posts pirate mollie makes a very awkward "lol wouldn't it be funny if Fe just called out his scum buddies".

Here is what I think happened. Fe knew he was going down so Fe tried to help out his scum buddy Majiffy by calling him town leader. When pirate called him out on that, Fe quickly scrambled and plummeted Majiffy to scum with very weak reasoning ... something along the lines of "I read the game again and decided Majiffy is scum". Majiffy then responded by saying Fe claimed scum in an obvious distancing and hard bus.

Pirate is pure null to me.

NS' back and forth makes no sense from a scum perspective when Fe was receiving so much heat. He is a pretty blatantly the fall guy right now.

VOTE: Majiffy

[the director]

Although Mollie's inclusion in the narrative isn't alignment indicative.

Her response to it certainly will be, though.

[the director]

Don't think basing votes on the 'slip' is worth it yet.

Explain.

[the director]

477, 478, 484 and 490 are required reading for the wagoneers.

So you take the time to find and quote your posts (with urls) after Fe dropped you when you went into full bus mode...

Not really supposed to "prove" anything, they're just required reading.

And sorry, I thought I had said something but I was remembering incorrectly.

..but you claim you neglected to reread your posts in between Fe calling you town leader and scum.

I find that really hard to believe.

Lynch it.

[the director]

You're missing the point.

> Fe lists Maj in town slot, says he's "town leader"
> Mollie says that it'd be funny if Fe listed his partners as town
> Fe suddenly lists Maj as scum

Maj's bussing isn't a cause for the switch. Mollie's comment is. What motivation would Fe have to suddenly switch his read on Maj if Maj is town?

To strap hang onto this, I noticed something about Majiffy's defense. He claims that he thinks he said "something" in between Fe's posts that caused Fe to call him scum. Yet yesterday, he called Fe scum for dropping him from Town to Scum over nothing. It was the whole basis for Majiffy declaring that Fe was "declared scum."

So yesterday according to Majiffy, Fe was scum for dropping Majiffy from Town to scum without reason, but today Majiffy is attempting to say Fe reacted to something he said. Majiffy is blatantly contradicting himself.

The guy is scum, we need a lynch, now. The only useful discussion from this point forward is who the third scum is.

[the director]

So was he trying to suck up to NS knowing he's town? Instead of dropping him he left him there.

Your fixation on NS when he also left KMD in the town realm has you on real thin ice. I'd really think hard about your next move.

[the director]

Lol @ Fe taking me from top of the town list to the bottom of the possibly scum list without a single reason.

Heh.

I said something to Fe in between those two posts that I reckon is the reason why he flopped on me, and I brought it up myself. You can go ISO for it.

Hehehehhe.

So yesterday according to Majiffy, Fe was scum for dropping Majiffy from Town to scum without reason, but today Majiffy is attempting to say Fe reacted to something he said. Majiffy is blatantly contradicting himself.

ISO me please and realize how you're being an idiot right now. Thanks.

Done!

[the director]

473 said TOWN in big capital letters with a single guy up there, that's what I saw.

KMD was in a group with question marks: TOWN?

So it was capital letters that confused you, then?

[the director]

Your anger is most pleasing.

[the director]

Then going to the other end of the spectrum, he did leave NS as his top town read, director. On a higher tier than KMD. I was willing to believe he did that on purpose to protect him, but maybe that's too much WIFOM and that he would love to take out a townie. Scum calling someone super town and then flipping a scum card, that's probably a mislynch setup for Day 2.

I thought about this, that Fe dropping Majiffy was a little too blatant. But it was Fe, and he didn't exactly know what he was doing as scum, and certainly wasn't the sharpest tool in the shed. Seems like a panic move, even more so considering he was so hesitant to post yesterday but immediately came back to the thread to drop Majiffy after pirate made her remarks.

However I'm not going to step in front of the KMD wagon, I am able to see the other side of this WIFOM argument. I'll see what he has to say and will adjust reads if need be afterwards.

[the director]

Somebody either vote thedirector with me or convince me he's town.

why are you so suspicious of him? I forget........

I think it was because I was mean to him.

[the director]

@NS - no I just don't like people saying "hey to look townish do what I say." Also, if I told the game my read on bork when you asked, then bork would have been able to craft a defense for it. I wanted to see what he said based off a weak attack, a strong response would have indicated he was paranoid.

@KMD - Your defense thus far is more than lacking. Those on your wagon have a really good point, your handling of Fe was sketchy.

[the director]

Hell if I know. I'd like to say Pirate Mollie, but I always think Pirate Mollie is scum, so I'll just go with "No idea" for now.

Literally the worst response I could have imagined. I'm looking forward to KMD's response, and considering the mentality of the game right now, probably his flip. If he ends up being scum, then we go to NS and flip him as well. If he turns out to be town, Majiffy is back on the table, and you are next.

It is so exciting!

[the director]

I'm literally sitting here with a flow chart and you are making excellent points.

[the director]

UNVOTE:
Voting is a silly way to prod dodge anyway.

I have a few numbers to VA hospitals who have excellent therapists on hand. Just saying.

[the director]

I'm here for you man.

[the director]

I'm literally sitting here with a flow chart and you are making excellent points.

what are the excellent points that you think she is making?

It was satire.

Director, fair. I had a town read on scum. If I'm going to be lynched for that, there isn't much I can say.

Maenara, I haven't voted towards a lynch because I don't have the information to do so yet. I need a day with free time to look over Day 1.

Director, lynching majiffy after my town flip is like the worst this town could do.

With every post you make I like you less and less.

[the director]

KMD going to need the tl;didnt fucking understand of what ever that shit you posted was

[the director]

Appreciate it.

[the director]

I encourage you to read this in Ron Swanson's voice, because it will make more sense.

But if you can literally tell me, in the shortest way possible, why utc and last are scummy, I can continue enjoying this scotch while not caring.

[the director]

And while I am in the Ron Swanson voice, I will ask everyone this. Majiffy has been jumping from read to read, and you lazy ass ****** ******* ******** keep following him. I ask you this. If he is the town leader, why wasn't he murdered last night? I am now going back to my scotch and steak and bid you all a good night.

[the director]

That was literally the opposite of short, son.

[the director]

I really don't have time for your bull, KMD. I'll be frank, I don't like you. In fact I don't like most of this field. It is full of sheeping pansies who can't make an argument to save their life. And I'm not here to read dissertations about why your latest man-love isn't responding to your emotions. I want cold hard facts.

[the director]

Thanks for reminding me how scummy you are, LS. Those posts are gold mines of bussing.

LS you probably should answer this cause Majiffy knows a thing or two about bussing. Also his "flow chart" business seems to have been swept under the rug with little to no explanation.

Pirate - for now I'm going to respect you keeping your cards close to the chest about your pet theory, but eventually you are going to need to reveal it. Maybe a teaser?

This game has become stagnated again ... I might have to *gulp* effort post again. Every time I shake the tree the same few names fall out, and I'm at the point I don't care which of those names is flipped.

[the director]

Also his "flow chart" business seems to have been swept under the rug with little to no explanation.

?

For a good portion of D2 you have been a parrot screaming "flow chart!" over and over. And then that seems to have gone away.

[the director]

*le sigh*

I am not keeping anything close to my chest. I have pretty much laid out my thoughts. on this very page. I think fe fucked up with his town list and his panic afterwards shows it. it is the very same thing that you responded to so in my eyes we are either both being retarded town or we are onto something.

what is throwing me for a loop is that maenara is a pretty good player IMO. this is shit play for her. she never came under fire in the newbie game we played together but she did in myko's game. I want to see more of her not less.

So you like to mix super retarded posts with serious posts in order to get reads. Dammit woman, I kind of want to lynch you. Also never say "le" again, unless you are on /r/circlejerk.

Majiffy - if you and your scum ilk win this game, it is because the laziness of the town is approaching 9/11 levels of disaster. Your flow chart business was pure BS, but apparently you have charmed the idiots to follow you like sheep. I mean it is pretty clear, your first scum read (KMD) stagnated so you then drove the mindless to the second (Maen whatever the eff), so now you are fishing for a third. I suggest LS, because in no way have you not telegraphed that future move.

This game makes me question my faith in humanity.

[the director]

But I'm not scum

A truce lynch is Nacho, FYI.

[the director]

Why is Nacho scum?

The hammer, mostly.

[the director]

what do you think of maenara

See below.

I'm being voted for gut and for twisting KMD's words to put him on the spot. The latter is not a lie, I did do that (Though I didn't make him out to have said something he hadn't), and the former has that lovely property of being totally unaccountable.

Of course, there's likely to be some scum on me, but I strongly doubt both are there. After all, why not gain town-cred by not being on the wrong wagon?

This whole post is pretty terrible, actually.

She says she was voting on gut but she was calling for KMD's head. Usually when one gut votes, they aren't looking for a hammer but more reads on a person they for some reason they find suspicion on to either prove or disprove said gut. Calling for a hammer is nearly on the same level of actually hammering, and who the hell would hammer with the reasoning "it was gut?"

Second paragraph reads like a speech at a trial. "Friends, family, fellow mafiascum players, if I am killed for crimes that I did not commit ... I want you to find those who are responsible. Please look on my wagon for one, and off my wagon for the second. Because surely [dramatic pause] ... one of them is not on my wagon." In other words, AtE.

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Actually as an aside, Maenara, why didn't you stick with your KMD "LETS FREAKING HAMMER THIS KID" if it was a genuine read? He has posted quite a bit since you called for his head, but you stopped responding and analyzing what he was saying. It seems like you were more concerned that your KMD wagon push was making you look scummy and went into spin mode rather than do what a town would do, which would be continuing to push a scum read.

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That being said, I did read KMD's two walls, and it actually contains a lot of good analysis, especially where Fe calls Maenara's former slot (Aether) scum, which KMD indicates that Maenara might actually be town, and that is a powerful argument. Will post reactions to those two walls shortly.

[the director]

I've stopped commenting on KMD because that got a bit too muddled, and I need to clear my mind on him first. I haven't stopped reading what he says. As for Mollie, she just isn't behaving the way she usually does.

Also, get your abbreviations in order. How is saying that 1/1 is likelier than 2/0 on a mislynch an appeal to emotion?

- meta reads are weak and mostly useless. Most players change their style from game to game no matter what alignment they are.
- I'll explain using your second paragraph as an example, since at least there you finally came out and said it. The use of the word "mislynch" is an appeal to emotion, to spark fear in those on your wagon and considering to vote you that they are about to assist in killing a town. In the first example, the idea that you were a "mislynch" was heavily implied.

[the director]

VOTE: Lastsurvivor

Based on KMD's walls and my very painfully long "this feels like homework" analysis of his posts, the following are cleared town:

The fizz slot
Majiffy
Breakfast slot
Mae
bork
pirate

You better reconsider your play style, Mae, because your town cred was due to literally nothing what you said (it was due to the fact to the dude you replaced literally a month ago did nothing). In fact, your poor play was so anti town I was kinda considering pushing your lynch just to send a message that if you suck epic sausage, you are going to be nailed no matter what alignment.

[the director]

@Mae - That was a pretty epic wall of crud. Glad to have you back in the game.

Also, there is no such thing as a mislynch, its a made up word. If a town gets lynched it is their own damn fault for not playing better.

I laughed at your express train to Crazy Town, first because I love using the phrase crazytown myself, but also because this crazytown gets results. It isn't personal, I just need to get under people's skin to see what comes out.

@penguin - unless pirate was superduper long-bussing Fe, she wouldn't have called out her buddy for jumping on the Aether wagon, especially giving the context of the game at that point in time. Same goes for Bork.

[the director]

[quote="In post 828
Maenara, you have anything with that vote or are you playing RVS on page 34[/quote]

Are you calling her terribad vote on you scummy?

[the director]

I feel ya man. I think everyone that votes me might be scum too. I mean what gives her the right to vote you? Fist bump broski.

[the director]

UNVOTE:

Need to reread this game. Hopefully will do that soon.

You do realize that the Fe strategy of "attempting to post but not really post but posting because I'm here" has a bad track record, right?

[the director]

Also LS, to strap-hang onto my last post, you knew enough about the game to unvote (because KMD wagon lol amirite) but you need to re-read the game. Methinks you read the game and you are scared, and are trying to go underground.

[the director]

Oh right you were voting Mae. It is so hard to keep track of what wagon you sheep are on. Replace KMD with Mae and it will all make sense again. Sincerest apologies.

I find it interesting that you had to have a PEDIT for my two posts that were literally 4 minutes apart. Good lordy you sound so much like Fe. Mention your name and POOF the wonderchild appears.

So how is that re-read coming along?

[the director]

Random bork mention is kinda weird

[the director]

@KMD - In a game I played with Majiffy he bussed his partner over the course of two days, as in he literally tried to get his scum buddy killed D1, and when he failed, he tried again and succeeded D2. I know there are no heroes among thieves, but Majiffy takes that to an extreme. So my town read on Majiffy has nothing to do with the fact he was on the Fe wagon, in fact I so badly want to nail-gun a scum read on him and dance while he swings as I laugh like a crazy person, but he is town due to the fact the Fe was answering everything Majiffy said to him. Paranoid scum don't like talking to other scum, but they do like talking to town, especially those as aggressive as Majiffy.

[the director]

But if you want to lynch him I'm totally on board. In fact if you can gather 5 of your closest friends in this game so we can do it I'd hammer without a question.

[the director]

Can we lynch Majiffy pls pls pls pls

[the director]

Why was Fe responding to you?

[the director]

VOTE: Majiffy

I feel better now.

LYNCH HIM

[the director]

Vote this guy dead.

[the director]

What is the vote count?

[the director]

Good fish sticks can someone put this scum at L-1 so I can hammer?

[the director]

VOTE: Last Survivor

[the director]

What is going on in this game right now?

[the director]

He is acting like a crazy person.

[the director]

He barely posted D2 and now on D3 he is acting all crazy. Something has changed.

[the director]

He barely posted D2 and now on D3 he is acting all crazy. Something has changed.

Yes, my alignment suddently changed over night.

What did it change to?

[the director]

Cool. So who do you think is scum?

[the director]

Off wagon is probably penguin tbh

[the director]

Woah.

[the director]

Merry Christmas!

[the director]

the director has generally at least been active and scum-hunting during the game (although if he'd like to explain what he thinks I've done that's suspicious that'd be cool)

1. You were part of the starting cast on page one and have posted a grand total of 28 times. That is less than one post per page. That is like 2% of the over 1000 posts in the game. If this isn't the definition of active lurking, I don't know what is.

2. Despite your active lurking, as soon as LS was hammered you were in thread and posting and immediately got on my case for hammering LS without a claim. This leads me to believe you know what LS was going to flip and wanted to look like a town angry that LS hadn't had time to claim. It also leads me to believe that you are keeping up with the game but are just to scared to post so you are posting a bit here and there and just riding the days to get to your night kill.

You aren't hiding in the shadows anymore. I'm going to shine the limelight on you and watch you dance.

VOTE: penguin

[the director]

KMD and penguin seem to be actively ignoring interacting with each other. In fact they look like bf gf who are having a fight and aren't talking to each other.

If someone puts KMD back at L-1 I will hammer.

[the director]

That has no bearing here unless she was actively lurking in that game too. More votes on penguin, please.

[the director]

Is there a case on Penguin? I haven't seen anything convincing yet.

I'd like to lynch KMD or Utc.

There is a case, she is gliding her way through the game and I'd like to see how she reacts to being at L-1. Her posts are terribad, her excuses even worse, and humor me, just jump on board and get her to L-1.

[the director]

Not from where I am standing browski.

[the director]

I am comfortable lynching you or her, it makes no difference to me. Which would you rather prefer?

[the director]

rise rise rise

[the director]

It is simple, vote Penguin and accept it. I so want her at L-1. The show will be so much fun.

[the director]

KMD kiss majiffy's ass more please.

[the director]

Love rope, scum. I'm going to do a victory dance when you flip scum after the endgame.

[the director]

I'm going to be honest. This game has turned into "lets randomly lynch this dude ... aww shit no momentum lets randomly lynch this gal ... aww no momentum."

How bout we decide who we are going to lynch and at the deadline we lynch that person, in the meantime we just talk about life and worldwide issues and whatnot.

In all seriousness Utc has been on my radar since D1, so I'm okay with that lynch. KMD, along with bulder went full retard this day, and bet your ass I'd be down for a Majiffy lynch just for shits and giggles. Hell I'd be okay with a pirate lynch just cause it would be funny. So as you can see, I've completely checked out and at this point the first person to get to L-1 I'm going to hammer without remorse.

[the director]

UNVOTE:

[the director]

tangle

[the director]

fuck it

VOTE: kmd

Now this is the kind of thinking I can get behind. As I said, get this KMD kid to l-1 so I can hammer.

ETA: TANGLE, GIRL.

in all seriousness kmd is today's kill. let's do it.

[the director]

VOTE: pirate

[the director]

I'm still good for a penguin lynch. If memory serves me correct she was on the Fe wagon but not on the LS wagon, yet seemed to be cheering for it from the sidelines. Then after it went through she immediately got all upset that LS had been lynched without a claim, which is a forced townie response.

[the director]

Majiffy, trying to strong-arm me onto the wagon you are currently pushing by calling me scum is weaksauce.

Penguin wagon makes a helluvalotta sense. She is the definition of active lurking. She appears out of thin air twice, once when the hammer on LS went through, and second when I mentioned her. She is following the game but choosing not to post unless she is super sure she isn't going to catch any heat. It is the classic signs of scared overly cautious scum and the fact you refuse to acknowledge it makes me all the more happy to hammer her when she gets to L-1.

[the director]

Also since Penguin has posted her defense she has pulled a Fe and is banking on others defending and/or starting counter-wagons for her. OH WAIT BOTH ARE HAPPENING THANKS TO MAJIFFY.

[the director]

Wouldn't take an experienced scum much time to realize that Fe was the weakest link in the scum pool and a prime candidate for the long bus. So you attempting to claim credit for leading his lynch is doing you more harm than good at this point, buddy.

[the director]

Running screen for Penguin by launching a counter wagon on Utc is not in the best interest of the game and is pretty suspect. If you are honest, put aside your bluster and ego for a second, you would realize the case on Penguin is extremely strong. At the very, very best, she is a survivalist townie who isn't doing the town any good. At the most likely, she is scum.

I won't lie Utc is also a good candidate, he has been popping up on my scum radar with a certain frequency, and he as well is hiding from the game. The fact that Utc may be scum doesn't impact my scum read on pengiun, cause at the end of the day, a red name in the lynch column is all that really matters. My vote on pirate is a placeholder and largely a joke. If either utc or penguin get to L-1 my vote will jump so fast my fingers will have friction burns.

So do me a favor, go ISO penguin, give her an honest read over, and you will see what I am saying.

[the director]

Majiffy give me one good reason why penguin isn't scum.

[the director]

That's what I thought.

[the director]

Wow. You weren't able to come up with a real reason why penguin is town, you call her "him", and you attempt to spin it into me being scum. Conclusion, you are drunk. Noted.

[the director]

PEDIT dammit nacho stop trying to steal thunder.

[the director]

Majiffy finally showing his true colors ladies and gentlemen. Let's give him a round of applause.

Son, unless you get your brain out of neutral, you are going to be lynched. Give a reason why penguin isn't scum. It is that simple.

[the director]

Yeah so sad that penguin is now the wagon I'm going to push with all my fury since you can't formulate a defense for your buddy. Let's hear from penguin:

*crickets*

*crickets*

Oh.

[the director]

I'm actually just wasting time until the field comes around to lynching you. Let's follow the meta here broski ... long bus the weakest link, then no kill, then parley that into future town lynches. What step are we at again?

Until town gets their shit in order and keeps pretending they actually have a voice, the real battle is between whether we lynch me or Majiffy. The war starts now. Today's lynch will be either me or Majiffy. Place your bets, folks.

[the director]

last game we played together.

[the director]

Happy New Years. Now lynch the scum otherwise as know as penguin.

[the director]

scum is penguin and majiffy.

penguin because she is lurker central

majiffy because if he was actually threatening to scum he would be dead by now

but im just an idiot who didn't start the boat on Fe or anything. Pirate stop trying, scum have already won this game, it isn't worth saving.

[the director]

More people need to vote for Majiffy.

[the director]

lordy you have to misquote me

its almost too simple

[the director]

vote

[the director]

majiffy

[the director]

as scum

[the director]

Hey Bork! Good luck to your Bengals today! Also if you are fine with lynching NS, why aren't you voting him?

Penguin - why does you being the target of a JK or Doc night action make you more confident in voting NS?

[the director]

Good call.

[the director]

Hey Bork! Good luck to your Bengals today!

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I know that feel. They had their chances, though. Dalton was terrible and Gresham was dropping more than Deadmau5.

[the director]

AJ Green was a non-factor which was surprising. 22 years without a playoff win is rough, hopefully next year your team matures a bit and is able to do some damage in the playoffs. With such a young team, I'd imagine your team will be dangerous for years to come.

[the director]

Oh that is cold Majiffy.

[the director]

So who is going to win today's playoff games?

[the director]

@pirate - that is cold since the NHL is on lockout. I miss my Devils.

@bork - would be awesome to see Wilson win it all. Guy is a beast.

[the director]

@penguin - super lazy right now, probably has to do with football. But please link your D2 calling out of NS.

[the director]

Thanks so much. So basically at this point either you or NS is scum. It is down to 50/50 here folks.

[the director]

Oh I could so hammer right now. Going to need my ego stroked to actually do it though.

[the director]

Nacho is posting, so I'm going to assume he is avoiding this thread.

[the director]

Nacho is posting, so I'm going to assume he is avoiding this thread.

I think this is a pretty retarded assumption.

Oh no you didn't

[the director]

Not feeling the love.

[the director]

Good god you are scum aren't you?

[the director]

mention scum and you appear. interesting.

[the director]

I bet you want me to hammer, eh?

[the director]

vote the pirate

[the director]

I won't ... mostly because I want you hammered.

[the director]

UNVOTE:

First one to put ns or uct on L-1 gets a cookie.

Oh thank the good lord you unvoted a guy you want to be at l-1

[the director]

You know what, I'm so giddy that the Redskins lost I'll hammer Utc if you vote him again buldermar. My trigger is finger itching!

[the director]

Aaaand he logged out of the site. Super surprising.

[the director]

Try again Majiffy.

[the director]

You're the last in a long list of scum reads. Given that I'm going to consider the above a bit of an over-reaction.

Try. Again.

Also director's "I'm going to be so obstinate that I couldn't possibly be scum" routine is starting to wear thin. There's no rhyme or reason to anything he's doing.

I hope it does wear thin, because then maybe one of you will wake up.

[the director]

If you've got something to say about something, I'm all ears.

Rule of thumb - the most town looking person is probably scum. Who is that?

[the director]

Yes.

[the director]

Mostly the "I need everyone's reads so I can compile them and also I'm going to cozy up to the obvtown so they will never ever vote me."

[the director]

Sure, move me up the list.

[the director]

Either vote mollie or vote penguin, either one will suffice.