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Mini 1398 - Game Over!

Post Post #0 (isolation #0) » Thu Nov 22, 2012 5:18 pm

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The Players

1. Melmond (replacing McStab)
2. Rob13 (replacing Dunhamganger)
3. Jabberwock (Hydra of Tierce and Empire) (replacing Dire_Drenz)
4. Bacde
5. Mirhawk
6. Disturbed_One
7. ICEninja
8. Shamrock
9. Cheery Dog (replacing RedRabbit)
10. Nachomamma8
11. absta101
12. jmo16mla
13. iamausername


Bolded have confirmed by PM.


Spoiler: The Dead and Game Results
8. Shamrock, Mafia Goon, was lynched Day 1.
6. Disturbed_One, Vanilla Townie, was killed Night 1.
4. Bacde, Mafia Goon, was lynched Day 2.
7. ICEninja, Doctor, was killed Night 2.
13. iamausername, Mafia Vigilante Enabler, was killed Night 2.

(Other roles: absta101 - Vigilante, Mirhawk - Innocent Child, everyone else - Vanilla Townies)

The Town won!
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Post Post #1 (isolation #1) » Thu Nov 22, 2012 5:22 pm

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The Rules


1. Rules may be added, removed, or changed at my discretion.

2. If you do not post after 72 hours you will be prodded. You then have 48 hours to pick up the prod. If you do not pick it up after that time I will begin looking for a replacement. Weekends and holidays are counted as normal days.

3. a) The deadline for Day 1 will be 3 weeks, and all subsequent Days will have deadlines of 2 weeks.
If a Day ends early, the remaining amount of time (rounded to days, not hours) will be added to the deadline of the next Day, up to a maximum of 1 week extra.
I reserve the right to extend Day length, typically for the purpose of finding a desperately needed replacement.

b) Night rounds will last for 72 hours. During this time the thread will be locked, and all roles with night actions should send me a message telling me what they're going to do. Nights may be extended, just like Days.

4. Short version: Vote in the form
Vote: example
. As long as a vote isn't ambiguous, I'll count it. If it is ambiguous it won't ever count, even if clarified. You'll have to redo the vote. Also, unvoting is not necessary.

Long version: Voting must be made in the format
Vote: example
. The colon is optional, as is the space between the colon and the player's name. Capital letters are also optional. Unvoting is not necessary but appreciated. Votes using abbreviations for player names, misspellings of player names, and even misspellings of abbreviations of player names will all be accepted as long as they meet the above conditions. Abbreviations of misspellings of player names will be treated as mere abbreviations. In the event that a vote is ambiguous however, it will not be counted, not even retroactively. You can vote to not lynch anyone, and the rules for that are the same as regular voting. Trick votes aren't allowed.

5. No invisible or small text (defined as "text I have to copy and paste or quote to read").

6. To lynch in the Day rounds you need a simple majority of votes, or 50% rounded down +1.

7. Discussing this game anywhere outside of the game thread itself is forbidden, unless you are specifically told otherwise in your role PM. Discussing other ongoing games in this thread is also forbidden.

8. If you die you get one contentless "bah" post. Note that if you reach the required majority needed for a lynch then you are immediately dead (i.e., claiming that your death scene hadn't yet been posted so you were allowed to keep posting content won't work). During Twilight (after lynch majority is reached/after deadline hits, before round ending scene) anyone who is alive may post content (but the lynchee doesn't count as alive).

9. Lynch majority will not be reduced at deadline. If a lynch majority is not reached at deadline, No Lynch will occur.

10. Don't quote PMs you get from me. Paraphrasing is your friend.

11. If you are going to be gone for 72 or more hours, say so in the thread, or PM me. This will put your inactivity clock on hold. Do not count on me checking the V/LA thread.

12. Don't intentionally lie about out of game circumstances to gain an advantage in the game.

13. Flavor is flavor, no story clues or anything.

14. My color for this game will be
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15. In the event that you are modkilled you will automatically lose, regardless of who wins.

16. Do not lie to me about things related to the game.

17. Vote counts will hopefully be done close to the top of each page. If a full page goes by without a vote count then one will be edited in at the top of it.

18. If I make a mistake, tell me.

19. If you have a question about the rules, just ask.

20. Be considerate towards your fellow player. Excessive personal attacks will result in a warning, then forced replacement or modkill.

Note: If you're being insulted, say so in thread or PM me. I'm not you, so I have no idea if you don't care or if you're upset or whatever. Therefore, I will tend not to intervene.

21. If you think something you're about to do might break the rules, assume it will and message me asking if it's okay to do.

22. And of course all basic game mechanics of a standard Mafia game apply, such as roles and alignment being revealed on death etc...

Vanilla Townie PM:
You are a Vanilla Townie, and have nothing but your word and your vote. You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated and at least 1 Pro-Town player is still alive.

The game thread is here. Please confirm by PMing me your role and alignment.


Mafia Win Condition:
You win when all non-Mafia players have been eliminated (or nothing can prevent this) and at least one Pro-Mafia player is still alive.
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Post Post #2 (isolation #2) » Thu Nov 22, 2012 5:23 pm

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~Flavor~

To be added later if I feel like it.
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Post Post #3 (isolation #3) » Thu Nov 22, 2012 5:38 pm

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Roles are going out. Please confirm via PM by messaging me your role and alignment.
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Post Post #4 (isolation #4) » Fri Nov 23, 2012 7:46 pm

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Everyone has confirmed! Day 1 begins with 13 alive, 7 to lynch. The deadline is set three weeks from now, on December 15th.

Use this handy dandy updating countdown to keep track.
Deadline is in: (expired on 2012-12-15 00:00:00)

Additionally, Shamrock is V/LA until November 26th.
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Post Post #9 (isolation #5) » Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:43 pm

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My apologies. Everyone who hasn't posted in this thread yet has been sent a PM informing them of the day start.
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Post Post #26 (isolation #6) » Sat Nov 24, 2012 9:25 am

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Vote Count #1

McStab (3) - RedRabbit, iamausername, Dunhamganger
iamausername (2) - Bacde, ICEninja
jmo16mla (1) - Disturbed_One
Disturbed_One (1) - jmo16mla
Shamrock (1) - Mirhawk
ICEninja (1) - McStab

Not Voting (4) - Nachomamma8, absta101, Dire_Drenz, Shamrock

Deadline is in: (expired on 2012-12-15 00:00:00)

13 alive, 7 to lynch.
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Post Post #49 (isolation #7) » Sun Nov 25, 2012 7:37 am

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Post Post #50 (isolation #8) » Sun Nov 25, 2012 7:38 am

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Vote Count #2

iamausername (3) - Bacde, ICEninja, Dire_Drenz
ICEninja (3) - McStab, Dunhamganger, Mirhawk
jmo16mla (2) - absta101, Disturbed_One
Disturbed_One (2) - jmo16mla, iamausername
McStab (1) - RedRabbit

Not Voting (2) - Nachomamma8, Shamrock

Deadline is in: (expired on 2012-12-15 00:00:00)

13 alive, 7 to lynch.

Nachomamma8 is V/LA until November 27th.
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Post Post #82 (isolation #9) » Mon Nov 26, 2012 2:12 pm

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Vote Count #3

ICEninja (5) - McStab, Dunhamganger, Mirhawk, Bacde, Disturbed_One
Disturbed_One (3) - jmo16mla, iamausername, absta101
iamausername (1) - Dire_Drenz
jmo16mla (1) - ICEninja
McStab (1) - RedRabbit

Not Voting (2) - Nachomamma8, Shamrock

Deadline is in: (expired on 2012-12-15 00:00:00)

13 alive, 7 to lynch.
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Post Post #99 (isolation #10) » Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:56 pm

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Bacde wrote:I am currently voting for two people. I'll fix that.

Whoops.

Also, prodded RedRabbit and Dunhamganger.
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Post Post #100 (isolation #11) » Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:58 pm

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Vote Count #4

ICEninja (4) - McStab, Dunhamganger, Mirhawk, Disturbed_One
Disturbed_One (4) - jmo16mla, iamausername, absta101, Bacde
iamausername (1) - Dire_Drenz
jmo16mla (1) - ICEninja
McStab (1) - RedRabbit

Not Voting (2) - Nachomamma8, Shamrock

Deadline is in: (expired on 2012-12-15 00:00:00)

13 alive, 7 to lynch.
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Post Post #116 (isolation #12) » Wed Nov 28, 2012 1:46 pm

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Prodded RedRabbit.
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Post Post #125 (isolation #13) » Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:20 pm

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Vote Count #5

Disturbed_One (4) - jmo16mla, absta101, Bacde, Dire_Drenz
ICEninja (3) - McStab, Dunhamganger, Mirhawk
Dire_Drenz (2) - Disturbed_One, iamausername
McStab (1) - RedRabbit

Not Voting (3) - Nachomamma8, Shamrock, ICEninja

Deadline is in: (expired on 2012-12-15 00:00:00)

13 alive, 7 to lynch.
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Post Post #148 (isolation #14) » Thu Nov 29, 2012 3:38 pm

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Prodded McStab.
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Post Post #149 (isolation #15) » Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:01 pm

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Just so you guys know I have a hydra who would be interested in replacing if ever I need one. Since this game did not start with any hydras, I just thought I would notify you all. Please PM me if you have any objections or concerns about this.
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Post Post #150 (isolation #16) » Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:02 pm

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Vote Count #6

ICEninja (3) - McStab, Dunhamganger, Mirhawk
Dire_Drenz (3) - Disturbed_One, iamausername, ICEninja
Disturbed_One (2) - jmo16mla, Dire_Drenz
Bacde (1) - Nachomamma8
McStab (1) - RedRabbit
Nachomamma8 (1) - Bacde

Not Voting (2) - Shamrock, absta101

Deadline is in: (expired on 2012-12-15 00:00:00)

13 alive, 7 to lynch.
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Post Post #190 (isolation #17) » Sat Dec 01, 2012 9:21 am

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Vote Count #7

Bacde (4) - Nachomamma8, Disturbed_One, absta101, Mirhawk
ICEninja (2) - McStab, Dunhamganger
Dire_Drenz (2) - iamausername, ICEninja
Disturbed_One (2) - jmo16mla, Dire_Drenz
McStab (1) - RedRabbit
Shamrock (1) - Bacde

Not Voting (1) - Shamrock

Deadline is in: (expired on 2012-12-15 00:00:00)

13 alive, 7 to lynch.

Going to take a very minor gamble and just send off Dire_Drenz's role PM to that hydra I've got waiting. I say a gamble since there are other players who haven't posted since my announcement of that possibility, but I suspect they will not object.

Edit: Jabberwock, a hydra of Empire and Tierce, replaces Dire_Drenz.
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Post Post #201 (isolation #18) » Sat Dec 01, 2012 11:36 am

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Vote Count #8

Bacde (5) - Nachomamma8, Disturbed_One, absta101, Mirhawk, Jabberwock
ICEninja (2) - McStab, Dunhamganger
Jabberwock (2) - iamausername, ICEninja
Disturbed_One (1) - jmo16mla
McStab (1) - RedRabbit
Shamrock (1) - Bacde

Not Voting (1) - Shamrock

Deadline is in: (expired on 2012-12-15 00:00:00)

13 alive, 7 to lynch.

Also prodded iamausername.
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Post Post #208 (isolation #19) » Sat Dec 01, 2012 4:24 pm

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Prodded RedRabbit (again) and Shamrock.
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Post Post #226 (isolation #20) » Sun Dec 02, 2012 4:17 pm

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Vote Count #9

Bacde (6) - Nachomamma8, Disturbed_One, absta101, Mirhawk, Jabberwock, ICEninja

ICEninja (2) - McStab, Dunhamganger
Jabberwock (1) - iamausername
Disturbed_One (1) - jmo16mla
McStab (1) - RedRabbit
Shamrock (1) - Bacde

Not Voting (1) - Shamrock

Deadline is in: (expired on 2012-12-15 00:00:00)

13 alive, 7 to lynch.


ICEninja wrote:
Mod, can I request replacement due to his only post in the past 8 days being a promise to catch up?
RedRabbit's time to respond to the prod expires in just under 24 hours. I'd prefer to just follow procedure and wait for that time to expire before seeking replacement.
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Post Post #233 (isolation #21) » Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:57 am

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Prodded McStab, again.

Starting to think I might need double replacements.
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Post Post #249 (isolation #22) » Mon Dec 03, 2012 2:36 pm

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Going to go ahead and start looking for replacements for McStab and RedRabbit. I might allow the former to come back if he posts really damn soon with some content in the next 5 hours.
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Post Post #250 (isolation #23) » Mon Dec 03, 2012 2:36 pm

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Vote Count #10

Shamrock (4) - Bacde, ICEninja, Mirhawk, Disturbed_One
ICEninja (3) - McStab, Dunhamganger, absta101
Bacde (2) - Nachomamma8, Jabberwock
Disturbed_One (2) - jmo16mla, Shamrock
McStab (1) - RedRabbit
Mirhawk (1) - iamausername

Not Voting (0)

Deadline is in: (expired on 2012-12-15 00:00:00)

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Post Post #253 (isolation #24) » Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:15 pm

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Cheery Dog replaces RedRabbit.
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Post Post #255 (isolation #25) » Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:39 pm

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Melmond replaces McStab.

Apparently it's ridiculous of ICEninja to nag me to replace RedRabbit 24 hours before the official replacement time but it's a-ok for me to replace McStab under about the same circumstances.

Whatever, I'm the moderator. And I guess that's just what you get for only posting a prod-dodge.
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Post Post #293 (isolation #26) » Tue Dec 04, 2012 2:26 pm

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Vote Count #11

Shamrock (5) - Bacde, ICEninja, Mirhawk, Disturbed_One, Nachomamma8
Disturbed_One (2) - jmo16mla, Shamrock
ICEninja (1) - Dunhamganger
Bacde (1) - Jabberwock
Mirhawk (1) - iamausername

Not Voting (3) - Cheery Dog, Melmond, absta101

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Post Post #308 (isolation #27) » Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:34 am

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Vote Count #12

Shamrock (6) - Bacde, ICEninja, Mirhawk, Disturbed_One, Nachomamma8, Jabberwock

Disturbed_One (3) - jmo16mla, Shamrock, Melmond
ICEninja (1) - Dunhamganger
Mirhawk (1) - iamausername

Not Voting (2) - Cheery Dog, absta101

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Post Post #310 (isolation #28) » Wed Dec 05, 2012 3:28 pm

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Prodded Dunhamganger.
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Post Post #322 (isolation #29) » Thu Dec 06, 2012 5:13 pm

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Prodded Shamrock.
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Post Post #331 (isolation #30) » Fri Dec 07, 2012 2:50 am

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Vote Count #13

Shamrock (6) - Bacde, ICEninja, Mirhawk, Disturbed_One, Nachomamma8, Jabberwock

Disturbed_One (3) - jmo16mla, Shamrock, Melmond
ICEninja (1) - Dunhamganger
Mirhawk (1) - iamausername
absta101 (1) - Cheery Dog

Not Voting (1) - absta101

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Post Post #364 (isolation #31) » Sat Dec 08, 2012 9:12 am

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Final Vote Count (#14)

Shamrock (7) - Bacde, ICEninja, Mirhawk, Disturbed_One, Nachomamma8, Jabberwock, absta101

Disturbed_One (3) - jmo16mla, Shamrock, Melmond
ICEninja (1) - Dunhamganger
Mirhawk (1) - iamausername
absta101 (1) - Cheery Dog

Not Voting (0)

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Post Post #365 (isolation #32) » Sat Dec 08, 2012 9:21 am

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Flavor goes here if I ever feel like it.

Shamrock,
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Leftover time from Day 1 was 7 days (at the time of the hammer), which will be added to Day 2's deadline.

Night 1 begins now. No current deadline is set because I need to find a replacement for Dunhamganger. Hopefully that can be accomplished quickly.
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Post Post #366 (isolation #33) » Sat Dec 08, 2012 10:37 am

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Rob13 replaces Dunhamganger.

Night 1 deadline is set for December 11th, 1:35 PST. Please send any and all night actions to me by then.

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Post Post #367 (isolation #34) » Tue Dec 11, 2012 12:21 pm

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Disturbed_One,
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Day 2 dawns with 11 alive. It is 6 to lynch. The deadline is set for 3 weeks from now, on January 1st, 2013, at 3:30 P.M. PST.

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Post Post #378 (isolation #35) » Tue Dec 11, 2012 2:59 pm

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Vote Count #15

Bacde (2) - Rob13, ICEninja
Melmond (1) - Jabberwock

Not Voting (8) - Melmond, Bacde, Mirhawk, Cheery Dog, Nachomamma8, absta101, jmo16mla, iamausername

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Post Post #404 (isolation #36) » Wed Dec 12, 2012 3:55 am

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Vote Count #16

Bacde (2) - Rob13, ICEninja
Melmond (1) - Jabberwock

Not Voting (8) - Melmond, Bacde, Mirhawk, Cheery Dog, Nachomamma8, absta101, jmo16mla, iamausername

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Post Post #443 (isolation #37) » Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:31 pm

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Vote Count #17

Cheery Dog (2) - ICEninja, Bacde
Bacde (1) - Rob13
Melmond (1) - Jabberwock
absta101 (1) - Nachomamma8
jmo16mla (1) - iamausername

Not Voting (5) - Melmond, Mirhawk, Cheery Dog, absta101, jmo16mla

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Post Post #450 (isolation #38) » Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:46 pm

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Vote Count #18

Cheery Dog (2) - ICEninja, Bacde
Rob13 (1) - Cheery Dog
Melmond (1) - Jabberwock
absta101 (1) - Nachomamma8
jmo16mla (1) - iamausername

Not Voting (5) - Melmond, Mirhawk, absta101, jmo16mla, Rob13

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Post Post #512 (isolation #39) » Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:03 am

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Vote Count #20

jmo16mla (2) - iamausername, Rob13
Rob13 (1) - Cheery Dog
Melmond (1) - Jabberwock
absta101 (1) - Nachomamma8
ICEninja (1) - Bacde

Not Voting (5) - Melmond, Mirhawk, absta101, jmo16mla, ICEninja

Deadline is in: (expired on 2013-01-01 16:30:00)

11 alive, 6 to lynch.


absta101 wrote:Mod, prod Nacho?
In 23 hours if he hasn't posted by then.
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Post Post #527 (isolation #40) » Sat Dec 15, 2012 3:56 pm

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Vote Count #21

jmo16mla (2) - iamausername, Rob13
Melmond (2) - Jabberwock, ICEninja
absta101 (2) - Nachomamma8, Melmond
ICEninja (1) - Bacde
iamausername (1) - Cheery Dog

Not Voting (3) - Mirhawk, absta101, jmo16mla

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Post Post #550 (isolation #41) » Sun Dec 16, 2012 8:14 pm

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Vote Count #22

Melmond (2) - Jabberwock, ICEninja
absta101 (2) - Nachomamma8, Melmond
jmo16mla (1) - iamausername
ICEninja (1) - Bacde
iamausername (1) - Cheery Dog
Cheery Dog (1) - Rob13

Not Voting (3) - absta101, jmo16mla, Mirhawk

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Post Post #592 (isolation #42) » Mon Dec 17, 2012 12:36 pm

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Final Vote Count (#23)

Bacde (6) - absta101, Rob13, Jabberwock, Nachomamma8, Cheery Dog, Melmond

Melmond (1) - ICEninja
absta101 (1) - Nachomamma8
jmo16mla (1) - iamausername
ICEninja (1) - Bacde
iamausername (1) - Cheery Dog

Not Voting (2) - jmo16mla, Mirhawk

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Post Post #593 (isolation #43) » Mon Dec 17, 2012 12:39 pm

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Bacde,
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Leftover time from Day 2 was 15 days, which will be cut down to 7 bonus days for Day 3's deadline.

Night 2 begins now. Deadline is set for December 20th, at 4:00 P.M. PST.

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Post Post #594 (isolation #44) » Thu Dec 20, 2012 1:17 pm

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welp

ICEninja,
Doctor
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...

iamausername,
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Day 3 starts with 8 alive. It is 5 to lynch.

No, I'm just kidding. The Town, consisting of Melmond, Rob13, Jabberwock, Mirhawk, ICEninja, Cheery Dog, Nachomamma8, absta101, Disturbed_One, and jmo16mla have won!
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Post Post #598 (isolation #45) » Thu Dec 20, 2012 1:22 pm

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The Setup


2 Mafia Goons - Shamrock and Bacde
1 Mafia Vigilante Enabler - iamausername
1 Doctor - ICEninja
1 Vigilante - absta101
1 Innocent Child - Mirhawk
7 Vanilla Townies - everyone else

Links:
The Review Thread - contains the discussion about this game's setup while it was still being reviewed. My introductory moderator notes from there are:

Moderator Notes:
Even though the Mafia have to choose who is making the kill, it does not actually matter.
Mafia are allowed to kill one of their own members if they so choose -- there may be some instances where killing the Vigilante Enabler themselves is a valid strategy.
Kills are indistinct from one another.

The purpose of this setup is to incorporate a vigilante into a setup without creating a setup where the Town can win even if they never lynch a single Mafia member. Although you could argue that in every setup with a Vigilante the Mafia can always just kill the Vigilante, that didn't seem good enough to me. Therefore, the Mafia have a slight boost in their power so that the odds of the Vigilante killing every single one of them (assuming perfect aim) is only 33% due to the chance of hitting the Vigilante Enabler.

It's my understanding that the Doctor only protecting against one kill is standard. On the other hand, it would be an extremely minor boost to town power if the Doctor could protect against all kills.

If this setup has a balance problem then I think it would be that it is biased towards the Mafia. Doctors are not especially powerful, and Vigilantes are swingy. I don't see an obvious solution, though. Reducing the Mafia size would be too much. Increasing the town size is not possible as it is already at 13 players. Adding another town PR would also probably be too much, when you take into account the presence of a Doctor. Anyway, this can be discussed with the reviewers.


Mafia Quicktopic

Dead People Quicktopic - not a whole lot in here
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Post Post #600 (isolation #46) » Thu Dec 20, 2012 1:33 pm

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Post-Game Thoughts


Well, the Mafia kind of imploded in this game. It would have literally been a PERFECT town win if absta had only killed iamausername Night 1 instead of Disturbed_One. Speaking of which, here are the Night Actions:

Night 1
absta101 kills Disturbed_One (successful)
Bacde kills Jabberwock (unsuccessful)
ICEninja protects Jabberwock (successful)

Night 2
absta101 kills iamausername (successful)
iamausername kills ICEninja (successful)
ICEninja protects Nachomamma8 (no effect)

Shamrock would have been up for replacement less than 6 hours after he was lynched. He never picked up his prod, either. Game could have gone a lot differently if he had been replaced. He was scummy in his own right, however.

Bacde's claim was kind of ridiculous. If I hadn't included a Doctor though, it might have let him live to the Day before lylo, considering how ballsy it was. In hindsight, claiming VT and taking the lynch would have been best -- let Shamrock be replaced with someone who will steer the lynch elsewhere.

iamausername didn't play badly but he didn't play very townily either -- he did get vigged, after all. Winning was always going to be difficult for him after the Shamrock lynch.

ICEninja sent me this in his protection PM on night 2:
ICEninja wrote:Is it sad that town as lynched scum 2 days in a row, and it was still sub-optimal play of me? Haha!
I wanted to reply, but I didn't want to interfere in any way with the game. So I just wrote down my response in Word, to be posted now:
I don't know what exactly was "optimal" play for you. Giving the town closure on Bacde isn't a bad thing, but it'll be difficult to see the effects of that, since it's all subjective and we have no alternative universe where you didn't claim to compare it to.


Anyway, this was a pretty interesting game to mod. Setup didn't play too much of a role, but that's fine, that just means that the Day game prevailed.

Feel free to comment on my modding and the setup. This was the first setup I actually designed myself, so any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks for playing! My congratulations to the Town and my condolences to the Mafia.
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Post Post #602 (isolation #47) » Thu Dec 20, 2012 1:43 pm

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Ha, if I had included a Tracker or a Watcher that would have worked out hilariously. From the Mafia QT, though, you can see that such a result would have been completely accidental. I think they were just hoping that I hadn't included a protective role at all.
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Post Post #603 (isolation #48) » Thu Dec 20, 2012 1:53 pm

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Nachomamma8 wrote:good work absta
sorry for suspecting you :)
Little confused by this, considering I hadn't yet revealed absta101 to be a Vigilante. What exactly did he do that was good work (that warranted being specifically referred to)?
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Post Post #620 (isolation #49) » Thu Dec 20, 2012 4:46 pm

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Happy scumday, Ice.

IIRC I intended the Doctor to potentially counter one of the two kills. Essentially, both townish town and townish scum (if the Vigilante randomly suspects them) are rewarded. The setup was potentially a bit kill happy, so I figured throwing in a protective role would be good.

As for the setup being kind of "vanilla" well I don't see that as a bad thing. Games don't need to be busy with power roles.
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