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Post Post #6 (isolation #0) » Mon Dec 10, 2012 4:37 pm

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ALL I HAVE IS HAMMERS
SO I'M DISHING IT OUT LIKE ITS CHRISTMAS MOTHER FUCKING DAY
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Post Post #37 (isolation #1) » Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:26 pm

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ALL I HAVE IS HAMMERS
AND WHEN I HAMMER IT IS GOING TO BE FABULOUS

so don't let nobody get to L-1
nobody
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Post Post #38 (isolation #2) » Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:27 pm

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i am going about this in a facetious way, but i am totally going to hammer any and everyone who is at L-1
don't let it get to that point
please
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Post Post #41 (isolation #3) » Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:29 pm

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SlumberPartyBois wrote:can i hold you 2 that promise

i mean you don't have to
but don't test it
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Post Post #42 (isolation #4) » Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:30 pm

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like, don't pull any L-1 claim business no
in this game there's an intent to L-1
because as soon as that L-1 comes, I'm on it
might be gay but i AINT NO BITCH
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Post Post #49 (isolation #5) » Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:40 pm

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Zoidberg wrote:
Nachomamma8 wrote:ALL I HAVE IS HAMMERS
SO I'M DISHING IT OUT LIKE ITS CHRISTMAS MOTHER FUCKING DAY

Nachomamma8 wrote:ALL I HAVE IS HAMMERS
AND WHEN I HAMMER IT IS GOING TO BE FABULOUS

so don't let nobody get to L-1
nobody

Nachomamma8 wrote:like, don't pull any L-1 claim business no
in this game there's an intent to L-1
because as soon as that L-1 comes, I'm on it
might be gay but i AINT NO BITCH


You can stop breadcrumbing now.

hey zoidberg
all i got is hammers
and i wanna hammer you one day
no i didn't stammers
because i'm going to treat you the lynching way
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Post Post #50 (isolation #6) » Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:40 pm

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wait i totally forgot we're running up chesskid
let's do that first
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Post Post #54 (isolation #7) » Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:45 pm

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Drench wrote:
SlumberPartyBois wrote:
Drench wrote:i'm a rebel
is there a reason why i should be voting pretentious?

Is there a reason you voted Quilford?

there can only be one gay australian and it's not going to be him

drench we can quickhammer whoever is being wagonned together
me and you can bring down the hammer together
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Post Post #56 (isolation #8) » Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:46 pm

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Om of the Nom wrote:
Drench wrote:
SlumberPartyBois wrote:
Drench wrote:i'm a rebel
is there a reason why i should be voting pretentious?

Is there a reason you voted Quilford?

there can only be one gay australian and it's not going to be him

In that case.
VOTE: Drench
This country ain't big enough fer' the two of us.

no om bad
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Post Post #63 (isolation #9) » Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:51 pm

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Sir Elton Hercules John wrote:With 25 alive, it's 11 to lynch. Deadline is 12/31 at 6PM EST

!!!
5 more votes now
and we win
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Post Post #65 (isolation #10) » Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:51 pm

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oh im gonna quickhammer elli?
that shit is gonna make me sad :(
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Post Post #68 (isolation #11) » Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:55 pm

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Drench wrote:I Enjoy Chesskid to be perfectly honest but ew @ the other two

...!!
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Post Post #74 (isolation #12) » Mon Dec 10, 2012 6:01 pm

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Quilford wrote:please

meatloaf would
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Post Post #80 (isolation #13) » Mon Dec 10, 2012 6:15 pm

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quilford first official townread
congratulations!
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Post Post #86 (isolation #14) » Mon Dec 10, 2012 6:28 pm

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man quilford
motherfuckers be jealous of that swag
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Post Post #87 (isolation #15) » Mon Dec 10, 2012 6:29 pm

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fuck the haters
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Post Post #89 (isolation #16) » Mon Dec 10, 2012 6:33 pm

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SlumberPartyBois wrote:heh, youve only got one townread so far? step up your game son

man i got townreads on townreads
but this quilford townread is something special
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Post Post #91 (isolation #17) » Mon Dec 10, 2012 6:39 pm

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Om of the Nom wrote:All this sillyness has made it hard for me to focus on reads.
Man, I need to get used to the life of the large themes.

here, i'll give you a starter townlist
choose a starter!

Spoiler: bulbasaur
TOWN
Nacho
whoever nacho says is town

SCUM
whoever nacho says is scum


Spoiler: squirtle
TOWN
Slumberpartybois
whoever slumberparty says is town

SCUM
whoever slumberparty says is scum


Spoiler: charmander
TOWN
Wyrd
whoever wyrd says is town

SCUM
whoever wyrd says is scum


when you click on the spoiler, you can't take it back
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Post Post #136 (isolation #18) » Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:19 pm

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Kawaii wrote:Black guy dies pregame.

I'ma lurk.

Fuck yuo mods, Nacho join me on strike.

ye too

didn't even read the flavor because i figured it was racist
damn
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Post Post #137 (isolation #19) » Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:19 pm

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TheTrollie wrote:^this is why i think matt is scum.

He's right about being able to read me well

MATT STEP IT UP
he's convincing me
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Post Post #138 (isolation #20) » Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:20 pm

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i mean, not that it matters, shit
i'm just a quickhammerer

SON OF A BITCH
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Post Post #292 (isolation #21) » Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:26 pm

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SlumberPartyBois wrote:Fine, I was wrong.

:(
why did you ignore me?

kise, why did you help him ignore me?

Ythan wrote:
Nachomamma8 wrote:
TheTrollie wrote:^this is why i think matt is scum.

He's right about being able to read me well

MATT STEP IT UP
he's convincing me

Trollie's argument was literally just that one of them must be scum. Why lean the way you did?

last time matt called him out and trollie was scum, his reaction wasn't half as genuine or ballsy
the reasoning was shit, but it came from a good place.
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Post Post #607 (isolation #22) » Wed Dec 12, 2012 4:55 am

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Kawaii wrote:Nacho what happens if I started with pikachu? :/

then you probably hacked the game.

kuribo wrote:however trollie's an idiot if he thinks Matt's sloppy enough to slip up by "oh he didn't accuse me therefore he must be scum"

Did you read it as genuine idiocy or fake scum idiocy?

The kuribo-volkan-Quilford exchange gives me a townread on kuribo that I'm not quite confident in yet because I don't really remember making a concerted effort to read him before.

I like Thunderhog's opening post. He takes a tone of authority and "not dealing with your bullshit today" that I find is a little too forceful for scum in a game like this. So, decently strong townread.

Alternatively, BT's #421 is horrible. He sees an exchange between two players and Quilford, decide they must suspect them so a wagon will come easy, then vote him on borrowed reasoning. Not exactly something that I like at all.

Gammagooey wrote:hmm.

HMMMM.

Unvote, Vote: Thunderhog

Hmmmm. Why?
I don't like being on the same page with you :(

SlumberPartyBois wrote:
Nachomamma8 wrote:
SlumberPartyBois wrote:Fine, I was wrong.

:(
why did you ignore me?

kise, why did you help him ignore me?
im sorry nacho i did not mean 2 ignore u can u pls tell me what i ignored :<

when matt and trollie were arguing
and i was like "matt, i believe in trollie"
and matt was like "rrrrgh"
and kise was like "rrrrrgh"
it didn't make me happy at all

Ythan wrote:Catching up. Vollkan is trying to hard.

No...?

zoraster wrote:oh good. the game hasn't even been open 24 hours yet has 18 pages worth of catchup to do, which will take a while, and I'm being set up for a shot because I'm "lurking."

Complaining is not a good way to start out as scum, zoraster. You want to put your foot in the door and start strong!

zoraster wrote:trying way too hard.

...and this terrible, terrible phrase again. Can we make everyone stop using this? Because it's stupid.

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Om of the Nom wrote:Every single post of Nacho's is basically a soft claim. He's still town though.

explain why nacho is town

because all i have is hammers
and i'm willing to use 'em

dramonic wrote:dawwww I'm getting voted~ <3

Dram, why did you post this?

Liking Om for town, still. Glazed over volkan's post; I didn't really see anything significant or interesting in it.
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Post Post #618 (isolation #23) » Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:06 am

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Pretentiousdra wrote:hey nacho, go ahead and vote someone kthx. It'll either show up or not but this idiotic softclaiming can stop

dan...? is that you?

Zoidberg wrote:
vollkan wrote:Quilford+3


vollkan wrote:BT+3


Could someone please clarify what this means for me?

scumpoints.
they are bad.

Ythan wrote:
Nachomamma8 wrote:...and this terrible, terrible phrase again. Can we make everyone stop using this? Because it's stupid.

It's not as stupid as the entire Quilford wagon though.

it almost is

dramonic wrote:@Nacho: I will post the lack of content I want kthx.

or you could answer questions and play the game you signed up to play?
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Post Post #865 (isolation #24) » Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:05 pm

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BT wrote:Where do you gather that first part from? And of course it'd seem borrowed if I happened to think the same thing, which I do.

I gather the first part from the exchange happened, then you sheeped it on the exact same reasoning they used. So.

zoraster wrote:VOTE: Wyrd

Zoraster? Where did you come from?

Zoidberg wrote:If the NS wagon is where it's at, why vote Pretentiousdra?

the only person who felt obligated to tag on shitty reasoning.
this is a horrible reason for this vote and I endorse your death.

TheTrollie wrote:Because I totally missed this^

no.
oh please god no.

Pretentiousdra wrote:HEY KURIBO TOWNFATE DOESNT AVOID THREAD FOR 25 PAGES WHILE ACTIVELY POSTING IN HIS OTHER GAME KTHX

NOW GET YOUR VOTE ON SON

scumfate doesn't either...?

ThunderHog wrote:Unvote: BT; Vote: Zoid

There was a reason I liked you.

Zoidberg wrote:
Om of the Nom wrote:
Ythan wrote:Is Zoidberg always shit or is it just someone in this game doing it to him.

He was in a game I modded and he was nowhere near as bad as this.


You can chalk some of it up to being a little intimidated by the huge game, and some of it up to Ythan and kuribo being shit lords.

"I am playing scummily because the game is big and I am being bullied"
MURDER HIM

Pretentiousdra wrote:Kawaii knows what we're talking about. So we're not a lyncher.

KATSUKI KNOWS WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT?
no

just want zoidberg to die right now
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Post Post #1334 (isolation #25) » Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:16 am

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(not planning on posting, was just reading so I didn't fall behind. the QT situation was hilariously stupid.
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Post Post #1574 (isolation #26) » Sat Dec 15, 2012 8:26 pm

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Kawaii wrote:Well yeah zoidberg can die, but Fate's first in line.

you brought me the pick and now you shall all dieee


Om of the Nom wrote:You lacked conviction, the fact you tried to push me and then never grilled me further after I responded shows that you were just posturing for town cred instead of being genuine in your questioning.

om is still town

One Direction wrote:nacho you're gonna hammer wyrd and you're gonna fucking like it too

i won't like it, but I'll do it

Ythan wrote:If you're full of shit then one of the other hydras will sort you out. As a non-hydra I don't care until then.

This is actually just a terrible idea.

Zoidberg wrote:Hmm, I take it you are forbidden from posting the hydra QT here publicly?

Otherwise we're just being asked to take your word that you are relaying events to us without editorializing them.

actually i like this
i might be wrong about my zoidberg read, will follow up on it when i'm done catching up

liking DGB for town this game

Quilford wrote:
Wyrd wrote:did quilford seriously just post a quote wall of every game hes voted without reasons in it

lol

I think this game is about to be broken

kuribo says it's indicative of my alignment

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

so utterly, utterly town
seriously

I'm sort of liking dramonic for town. I do not like BT's push on him.

JacobSavage wrote:
Kawaii wrote:(Just a quick note of amusement before I go off to study, everyone competent that's not scum sans nacho and kuribo are voting Fate).

VIs need to learn their place.


This is just..... terrible
1. Using n argument that a certain group of people obviously know what they are doing is just sc ummy as fuck.
2. Then restricting the category to include only players you don't think are scum is silly, i don't think this needs explaining.
3. Them having 2 exceptions is scummy as it's either t
trying to build a case out of nothing OR its making exceptions to prove a rule.

never forget this lurking scumbag or the zoraster one

DrippingGoofball wrote:
Wyrd wrote:mhmhrkmsoiurahtgr'u

I WILL NOT accept a Faraday+Chesskid team


Katsuki is the middle ground here, lets kill the fuck out of him

Unvote:
Vote: Kawaii


P-dra and Kawaii
will
die.

Let's do One-Direction today. I'm 100% on this. I'm rarely this certain. Have faith in my legendary scumdar.

i really like DGB for town

Ythan wrote:
Nachomamma8 wrote:the only person who felt obligated to tag on shitty reasoning.
this is a horrible reason for this vote and I endorse your death.

As I said to Wyrd I don't get this.

all of the hydras were piling onto Wyrd without giving any reasoning whatsoever, and zoidberg sees this, wants to hop on
but instead of just saying "fuck it" and piling on with them, he tries to give a bit of reasoning to act like he sees what they see... but it's completely wrong and it's completely shit

Iecerint wrote:OK, so here's what needs to happen and should have happened 10 pages ago:

Kawaii, SPB, OD, and CHESSKIDhydra need to ALL indicate whether Fate scumslipped in the QT. This should have been posted immediately way way back when it happened, or at least after the hydra QT was outed. Paraphrasing is obviously permitted, so either paraphrase it or say what's what.

liking iec for town

Zoidberg wrote:Re: OD vs DGB, I think there's exactly one scum between those two and I've been really liking DGB's recent logic. OD on the other hand seems content to just post vague half-cases and innuendo.

mmmmm
do not like

Kawaii wrote:Well I'll be done finals tomorrow and be very busy for the next month so will lurk until DERPBAITS are dead. See y'all D5.

derpbaits aren't going to be the only people who are dead >.>

Pretentiousdra wrote:Actually DGB we're paying you no attention because early game you decided it would be funny to not provide any content and attempt to form a wagon on us on the basis that we all hate [removeds].

And then you started bitching about people who post a lot, and we decided we really didn't care what you had to say at all, that this is exactly your scum meta of being useless as fuck until later in the game, when you come in with shit reads (oh hey we're at that part already!)

So yeah. SUP NIGGUH

this post is absolutely terrible

Pretentiousdra wrote:
Wyrd wrote:HEY WHATS ALL THIS TALK ABOUT ZOID/DELTA I HEAR


SOUNDS LIKE GREAT DISTRACTION WAGONS AMIRITE?

Sounds like good compromise wagons that don't involve lynching a good town player d1

I can tell Elli had no part in posting this bit >.>

kuribo wrote:See, now that's two multiball slips for you DGB.

The first one I just chalked up to your usual large theme paranoia, but now a second one?

Why are you assuming two scumteams?

I don't really find this out of character for DGB.

Iecerint wrote:OD, do you think the hydra QT is all town?

Nacho, TheTrollie, Quilford, and Thunderhog should place a vote.

all i have is hammers
but hammers require a set up
it's like alley oop before a dunk for short people
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Post Post #1575 (isolation #27) » Sat Dec 15, 2012 8:52 pm

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So right now I don't agree with the Wyrd wagon. The founding of it is LOL LET'S LYNCH FATE BECAUSE HE ISN'T POSTING, which means that if it hits scum, it's essentially a crapshoot and lucky as fuck. I understand the need to cut it loose every once in a while and I agree that a private QT is a fine way to start a bullshit wagon on someone. I don't agree with later conclusions that Fate's reaction was scummy; generally, pointing out that everything that started on you was founded on sheer bullshit is the way to defend yourself as town OR scum. What reassures me about the Wyrd slot is mostly Nuwen's posting; I like that they posted the QT link in a roundabout break the system type way, and I like that they revealed it as soon as possible.

DGB wagon is also fairly weak. A lot of the things being pointed out to be scumtells (third party hunting, complaining about high volume posting early and then posting a lot herself) are more DGB-tells which means congratulations, you're playing with DGB. I'd like kuribo to follow up on his DGB tell (did she drop it? were you mistaken? if you're having doubts then you're probably overthinking and you should find something else to read her), though. I really like her putting her reputation on the line for an OD lynch, and I like her reaction to Ythan specifically and I am really tempted to call her definite town for it, but I need to do a little bit of checking through things before I see if it's a DGB tell again or what.

OneDirection is fine. I liked Faraday's posting in the QT more than I liked Faraday's posting in thread, but I don't really think that it's time to lynch him now. A lot of the moves he's made that I don't really feel necessary to point out at this juncture seem like terrible scum choices, and I don't really think Faraday is that foolish as scum. I'd like to see him push other scumreads, though; whether he's right with it or not, he needs to take a break on the DGB read for a moment and come back to it later.

I find myself flopping on Zoidberg a lot, although before the latest bunch of postings, I'd call him my strongest scumread. I didn't really like how he called me out for breadcrumbing. He didn't seem annoyed by it, he didn't seem like he thought I was scum for it. It just seemed like he expected something more, which I didn't really like. There's also him taking the "spam sucks" position and bitching about it plenty, yet happily using it to coast by as much as he pleased, there's the Wyrd vote (which sucked), and now there's the OneDirection vote which also sucked a ton because it made that "oh this is a town on scum argument and I find one townier than the other, so vote!" argument that I really hate seeing around. But he was also the first person to bring up outing the topic, which I found townish because him not trusting anyone is generally a good sign. So for now I still lean scum, but there's room for shuffling around on this.

Quilford is still town and if I could kill everyone in game but Quilford and myself, I'd do it.

JacobSavage and zoraster should die whenever, like seriously.
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Post Post #1579 (isolation #28) » Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:43 pm

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Kawaii wrote:At least, that's the basis for my Fate scumread.

Thank you. This seems a hell of a lot less bullshit than everything else that's been posted about it. I'll throw a Wyrd reread in with the DGB one later, just for you.

Kawaii wrote:Nacho did you state what exactly your read was on DGB btW?

Town with a promise to revisit later.
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Post Post #1581 (isolation #29) » Sat Dec 15, 2012 10:07 pm

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vollkan wrote:
Nacho wrote: JacobSavage and zoraster should die whenever, like seriously.


Can you elaborate on your reasons for these two scumreads?

Zoraster complained that people were accusing him of lurking, went on to lurk, and is now voting Thunderhog because Thunderhog complained about spammers.
Jacob comes in every once in a while and snipes random shit, isn't actually making the slightest effort to scumhunt but is making an effort to coast.
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Post Post #1627 (isolation #30) » Mon Dec 17, 2012 12:48 am

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vollkan wrote:
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vollkan wrote:
Nacho wrote: JacobSavage and zoraster should die whenever, like seriously.


Can you elaborate on your reasons for these two scumreads?

Zoraster complained that people were accusing him of lurking, went on to lurk, and is now voting Thunderhog because Thunderhog complained about spammers.
Jacob comes in every once in a while and snipes random shit, isn't actually making the slightest effort to scumhunt but is making an effort to coast.


I understand the frustration with them, but both of those are basically just lurkers rather than scummy players.

Those two specifically are the only lurkers that really, really bother me. Dramonic is cheeky as fuck and blatantly not posting anything useful most of the time, but he does have aggressive moments and does seem like he's scumhunting sometimes. NS hasn't posted anything I can read yet, and drench is strange but still probably town. Zoraster and JacobSavage just need copious amounts of death.

One Direction wrote:hey nacho what's your read on vollkan

I don't like that he's focusing so hard on the BT/Thunder/Zoid trio, but I can't really blame him. I'd like to see him do his thing a little more before reading him better, though.
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Nacho wrote: JacobSavage and zoraster should die whenever, like seriously.


Can you elaborate on your reasons for these two scumreads?

Zoraster complained that people were accusing him of lurking, went on to lurk, and is now voting Thunderhog because Thunderhog complained about spammers.
Jacob comes in every once in a while and snipes random shit, isn't actually making the slightest effort to scumhunt but is making an effort to coast.


I understand the frustration with them, but both of those are basically just lurkers rather than scummy players.

Those two specifically are the only lurkers that really, really bother me. Dramonic is cheeky as fuck and blatantly not posting anything useful most of the time, but he does have aggressive moments and does seem like he's scumhunting sometimes. NS hasn't posted anything I can read yet, and drench is strange but still probably town. Zoraster and JacobSavage just need copious amounts of death.

One Direction wrote:hey nacho what's your read on vollkan

I don't like that he's focusing so hard on the BT/Thunder/Zoid trio, but I can't really blame him. I'd like to see him do his thing a little more before reading him better, though.

One Direction wrote:why is it terrible? It seems pretty accurate.

I am not listening to DGB because she is scum and she is playing to her scum meta of being useless then having shit reads until late game is stupid for many reasons. First, not listening to someone because they bitched at you for spamming is useless because plenty of people yelled at chesskid for spamming. DGB shouldn't be special. The meta thing is stupid because he puts forth a meta point, states that it's different from usual scum meta, and calls it scum anyways. The shit reads thing is stupid because who the fuck knows who has good reads and who doesn't? It's day 1, don't care if you think you're a good scumhunter, you won't know if you're having a good game or an off game until people start dying.

One Direction wrote:I also don't see where DGB has put her reputation on the line by lynching us?

DrippingGoofball wrote:Let's do One-Direction today. I'm 100% on this. I'm rarely this certain. Have faith in my legendary scumdar.

As scum, she's basically giving up her mislynch power to kill one person, and guaranteeing that a whole bunch of lazy people are going to hop on her wagon because of backlash. It's not like she's giving up her reputation for the rest of her career, sure, but it's one of those things that she can't dismiss with "oh he was just being a scummy fuck".

One Direction wrote:How do you think DGB!scum would respond to me voting her anyway? Try to placate me? (That seems like a recipe for disaster since I despise things like that)

I expected DGBscum just to dismiss you. There's no reason why she specifically has to push you as scum for that. But I'll do a little research in my SPECIAL TIME REREADS to see what she usually does.

Gammagooey wrote:HEY YOU GUYS.

THUNDERHOG IS SERIOUSLY HITTING EVERY SCUMTELL THAT I KNOW OF FOR NEWER SCUM PLAYERS AND I'M QUITE CONFIDENT THAT HE'S SCUM.

gamma I hope you have more than one read and I'm just not remembering your other awesome posts.
because even if you're right, you can do better than one read.

ThunderHog wrote:I honestly considered replying to the comment with, "No." However, I figured that that would put me under even more criticism and suspicion than simply complying.

Newbies has this tendency to worry too much about how people will perceive certain actions. But when they are this transparent about it, they are usually town.

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Om of the Nom wrote:Well I figure that my vote on you among numerous other votes on you would constitute a wagon but I guess not.


By my count it's just you, Ythan and scumderhog.

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Post Post #1630 (isolation #31) » Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:46 am

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Rereading Wyrd, closer and closer.

His original "chess is scum" theory sucks some major ass, but I don't really see the scum motivation behind it. Fate doesn't really check in with anyone else as to whether that happened to their hydra or not, and instead just throws it out there. Now, as scum, he has the QT as he knows that most of the hydras started things out pretty immediately. So he knows something like that is going to be attacked, so why the hell would he suggest something like that in the first place?

Post #888 is a lot better. ScumFate is known to throw shitfits when the town starts to align against him (as dramonic has said), but revealing the fact that the QT exists, synopsising it, directly confronting 8 players about their scumread on him while not really collecting up the allies like he usually does seems pretty town. Add to the the Ythan scumread (going immediately into attacking people who defend him), and I'm fine with this post too.

There's a bunch of chesskid fighting, which is fine, then a bunch of bouncing around until he follows DGB on One Direction. I don't know whether Fate is more likely to hope like this as scum or town, but don't really care. It did remind me of #1418, though, which was really, really shitty. Still don't particularly think Wyrd is scum.

DGB:
In Ladies Night 2, ended up pushing people a lot harder, was a bit more flexible, didn't really react to anyone voting her ever. Game was also a lot shorter, though; faster paced (the whole game was shorter than our D1), so that probably has to do a bit with it. Didn't get significant suspicion, dismissed most people who suspected her.

Gay Mafia is unfortunately mostly gone now, but DGB doesn't give anything even resembling a shit about explaining reads in the posts that are left, whereas in this game she takes special efforts to explain her reads on people (and all because of
ythan
, of all people). She goes on the OMGUS here, but it's not really as dramatic as it is here.

Weather Mafia II was a similar story, and comes with DGB talking about how she was bored of getting scum so damn much. Here she was dismissive as hell of people who had scumreads of her, went for the mislynch, didn't really explain anything at all to anyone at all.

Tigers vs Otters vs Sharks is a bunch of DGB trolling as scum, so it's a bit irrelevant. It's more of not explaining things, pushing mislynches on the DGB charm, not really giving a shit about anything.

...and that's about as far as I have the patience to go. DGB's been aggressive as hell (with reasons and everything!), she isn't playing for the easy mislynches that she occasionally has the the tendency to as scum, and unless she caught her scum stride after a hell of a "sick of it" spell, I'm pretty fucking confident that she's town. The hypocritical bits around the "I HATE SPAMMERS" episode is probably the point that resonates the most with me, but honestly I can't really blame her at all for it. I love spamming, and even I was getting a little restless for the game to start and the bullshit to stop. The townread on Wyrd is reminiscent of the kuribo townread in Gay Mafia a bit which makes me worry, but it's an odd combination for scum synthesis, and it makes sense for DGB to have a townread on someone who is agreeing with most of what she's saying, so I don't really care. The OMGUS bit is ridiculous, sure, but it doesn't seem along the lines of normal DGBscum discrediting. It seems like she got a strong read and is sticking with it, and this is backed up by the Ythan interactions. She really didn't put that much legwork into doing anything as scum, and I see no reason why she would start it up now.

So DGB is also a cool townread.
And where is matt and kaney? I miss them.
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Post Post #1631 (isolation #32) » Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:50 am

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vollkan wrote:Granted, but that's really just different ways/extents of lurking. The fact of the matter still remains that neither Zoro nor JS has actually committed positive scumtells.

This post is pretty scummy. You might disagree since you're getting mad scumdings from Thunderhog, but I've never been a fan of "experienced player and weaker player are doing the exact same thing, so I'm going to vote the weaker player since I find the experienced player town".
As far as Jacob goes, yeah, there's nothing solid. Still would support his death :/
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Post Post #1637 (isolation #33) » Mon Dec 17, 2012 3:04 am

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fate why is gamma town?
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Post Post #1643 (isolation #34) » Mon Dec 17, 2012 3:12 am

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okay gamma is town
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Post Post #1684 (isolation #35) » Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:48 pm

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Pretentiousdra wrote:TH is meh.

hey hey explain this a little more.
is it the wagon that sucks, to THog himself?

ThunderHog wrote:He's scummy in the fact that he seems fairly certain - beyond a shadow of a doubt certain - that Gamma is town. There's only one way he can positively know that on day 1 - and that's be scum.

There are plenty of people playing around with really strong reads. Why is Wyrd the one you choose to vote?

Gammagooey wrote:oh so uh this wound up being pretty long so feel free to ignore it if you aren't thunderhog and also don't care about me explaining why I do and think things in mafiaz.

(for the rest of us can you give us some of your other reads?)
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Post Post #1713 (isolation #36) » Wed Dec 19, 2012 4:28 am

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zoraster wrote:
unvote Thunderhog
I'm back. Fortunately it doesn't seem like things have gotten too out of control over the weekend.

zoraster wrote:I was voting TH before it's likely I may again after I review things. It wasn't a judgment on him being not-scummy or anything

bang
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Post Post #1733 (isolation #37) » Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:42 am

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DrippingGoofball wrote:15. ThunderHog - isn't scum with P-dra, too much emphasis to explain why he might come off as "careful."

DrippingGoofball wrote:Strategically, I think Either P-dra or OD make a better lynch than Kawaii, who ought to just be vig-bait.

DrippingGoofball wrote:My mason is considering vigging Thunderhog.


now, maybe i'm reading too much into it, but it's pretty clear that there's a difference in vigbait and lynchbait for dgb
so i think the recent attacks on her are stupid
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Post Post #1748 (isolation #38) » Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:02 pm

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Fate wrote:
Gammagooey wrote:or we could lynch thunderhog and have a dead scum that cant make the nightkill or use any last second abilities and then your 'mason-vig buddy' can shoot whoeeeeever the hell you waaaaaaaannnnntttttttttttttttttttt

DrippingGoofball wrote:That, too.


DONT REWRIOTE FUCKING HISTORY ON ME NACHO

I SWEAR TO GOD DONT DO THIS TO ME

no fate, no
don't do this to me
you broke my heart one too many times for you to flop on me now
give me this
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Post Post #1751 (isolation #39) » Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:56 pm

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who do you think is scum?
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Post Post #1755 (isolation #40) » Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:24 pm

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hey, how's thinking on the pretentiousdra read going?
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Post Post #1782 (isolation #41) » Thu Dec 20, 2012 11:04 am

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Nachomamma8 wrote:ALL I HAVE IS HAMMERS
AND WHEN I HAMMER IT IS GOING TO BE FABULOUS

so don't let nobody get to L-1
nobody

sorry
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Post Post #1783 (isolation #42) » Thu Dec 20, 2012 11:04 am

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and so I wall sometimes

When I'm laying in bed

Just to get it all out what's in my head

And I, I am feeling a little impatient


And so I wake in the morning

And I open the thread

And I turn caps lock on 'cuz it's my time

And I scream from the top of my lungs

Vote: ThunderHog


And I say: HAAAAY HAAAY HAAYY HAAAAYYYMMMEEERR

HAAAAY HAAAY HAAAAY


I said hey

Vote: Thunderhog


And I say: HAAAAY HAAAY HAAYY HAAAAYYYMMMEEERR

HAAAAY HAAAY HAAAAY


I said hey

Vote: Thunderhog


oh elton john do i try

i try all the time, to lynch a scumbag


oh elton john do i pray

i pray every single day

for a resolution


And I say: HAAAAY HAAAY HAAYY HAAAAYYYMMMEEERR

HAAAAY HAAAY HAAAAY

I said hey

Vote: Thunderhog


And I say: HAAAAY HAAAY HAAYY HAAAAYYYMMMEEERR

HAAAAY HAAAY HAAAAY


I said hey

Vote: Thunderhog
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Post Post #1815 (isolation #43) » Thu Dec 20, 2012 5:53 pm

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SlumberPartyBois wrote:hey nacho remember way back early in the day when u kept going on about all u could do was hammer. and i told u i was gonna hold u 2 that? and then for some reason when hammer time came around it turned out to look incredibly not compulsive? what happened there?

Nothin'.

One Direction wrote:http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p4555995 overjustification of a vote. will get empire to meta check zoraster on this. feels weird based on zor!town I've known who seems a bit lazier than his scum self

this was pretty much the only thing that i wanted to bring up during night
zoraster really needs death for that.
he pulled off the wagon when it got significant, then overexplained the vote jumping back on when he got shit for it
so grimy, so nasty, so scummy
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Post Post #1816 (isolation #44) » Thu Dec 20, 2012 5:53 pm

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Pretentiousdra wrote:
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DeltaWave wrote:
Kise, weren't you guys wishing for Wyrd's death?


I wanted Wyrd dead, Kise didn't.

Since our reads are so conflicting, reins are in Kise's hands. :)

this is what bothers me about kawaii tbh

did elli agree about the wyrd read when you were pushing it?
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Post Post #1820 (isolation #45) » Thu Dec 20, 2012 6:36 pm

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you bet on who is lynched and you get superpowers if you're right, according to the wiki.
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Post Post #2016 (isolation #46) » Tue Dec 25, 2012 6:32 am

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not going to have the time i thought i would have. see you all tomorrow.
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Post Post #2033 (isolation #47) » Wed Dec 26, 2012 7:52 am

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HI GUYS DGB IS THE ONLY WAGON I WON'T HAMMER TODAY
DON'T BE FUCKFACES
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Post Post #2034 (isolation #48) » Wed Dec 26, 2012 7:53 am

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(seriously, it's not that hard. don't fuck this up.
still hammering everyone else tho, so do whatever.)
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Post Post #2040 (isolation #49) » Wed Dec 26, 2012 1:20 pm

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no you may not ask
burn scum burn
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Post Post #2048 (isolation #50) » Wed Dec 26, 2012 3:33 pm

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because one of you are scum and the other one is a fluffy cheeky lurker fuck
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Post Post #2105 (isolation #51) » Thu Dec 27, 2012 9:02 pm

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dramonic wrote:I have twice your posts and P-hydra has twice my posts.
lurker, really?

and yet somehow volkan has more content than both of you put together
MAGIC

JacobSavage wrote:DrippingGolfball

the most controversial read on the reads list gets NO explanation
why

JacobSavage wrote:For example, Dramonic. Probably town because I can't see scum being that cheeky, and a seaming lack of content.

this is exactly what i said
did you notice that, Jacob?

JacobSavage wrote:Iecerint actually seams to be looking around for reasons and activly trying to build a case. Yes I believe its mis-directed, but it still shows a townish leaning.

don't really like this. reminds me too much of how the hog called me town; it gives me the heebie jeebies all over.

JacobSavage wrote:Why thank you. You're continuing to point out the same things that I already do as either side...

man, fuck if i know how to read someone pulls the whole "i'm useless as town and scum so you have no idea what alignment i am!!!" card
only way i know how to read that is to lynch the shit out of it

JacobSavage wrote:In fairness its all a little hypothetical I've yet to draw a Scum PM in any of the 13 role PMS I've been sent

why exactly would you lie about this?

DeltaWave wrote:"things I already do as scum"
"hey guys I've never drawn a scum PM"

I want to lynch you more and more

good delta post
probably town

JacobSavage wrote:I'm sorry Delta that you feel that way. I'm more basing that in the time I was a Serial Killer (lynched D1 though...)

OH FUCKING BULLSHIT

jacob savage needs ridiculous amounts of death
ridiculous amounts
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Post Post #2106 (isolation #52) » Thu Dec 27, 2012 9:04 pm

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Bella and BT are my next random runthroughs. They are probably the two most solidly in my null category, so I'm gonna check those folks out in a minute. Would like to see buttonmen actually do some shit today, though.
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Post Post #2108 (isolation #53) » Thu Dec 27, 2012 9:16 pm

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take that part out, leave the rest
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Post Post #2110 (isolation #54) » Thu Dec 27, 2012 9:24 pm

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scum like i've said many times before
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Post Post #2113 (isolation #55) » Thu Dec 27, 2012 9:47 pm

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Om of the Nom wrote:Then get on zor's wagon and stop pushing a mislynch.

FUCKING HELL WHAT THE FUCK
IS IT REALLY THAT FUCKING DIFFICULT TO REMEMBER THAT ALL I CAN DO IS HAMMER
JESUS
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Post Post #2114 (isolation #56) » Thu Dec 27, 2012 9:48 pm

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JacobSavage wrote:Allow me to explain my reasoning.
I lurk like crazy as town. Thats not an alignment thing, its a motivation thing. So I don't imagine it would change for scum
Also should I name claim before I go away?

also
this is different than what you said before
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Post Post #2119 (isolation #57) » Thu Dec 27, 2012 10:06 pm

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JacobSavage wrote:Is it? It was what I was trying, but obviously failing to say.

so by "I was basing my scumbehavior off that one game where I rolled SK and lurked a lot" you meant "I lurk a lot as town and am assuming I would lurk a lot as scum". Even though you have been scum before other than that one time with the SK.
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Post Post #2269 (isolation #58) » Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:26 pm

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SlumberPartyBois wrote:q: does dgb omgus as town?

what omgus are you referring to?

TheButtonmen wrote:Not be the sudden dog pile of a bad player wagon day 2. I'm not calling him town, I'm saying he's not done anything I want to wagon him down for and that there are much better calls to play out the day.

If anything I'd peg him as third party rather mafia.

well this is an absolutely shitty post.

Fate wrote:HEY GOOFBALL

WERENT YIOU AT THAT MEET GOOFBASH AWHILE BACK?

YOU KNOW, WITH THE 100 OF MAFIA GAMES AND THE NEVER READING BUTTONS WRONG?

ITS CALLED GUT

BUT SURE IF YOU TAKE HIS POSTS ONE BY ONE AND RATE THEM FOR USEFULLNESS HE LOOKS LIKE A CLOWNFUCK (HINT: HE IS) BUT HIS TONE IS TOWN AS FUCK

And YEAH IM TRYING TO RE-RAIL A WAGON THAT GOT DERAILED WHEN I WASNT AROUND TO CALL OUT YOUR OUTBURST AS THE BULLSHIT IT WAS

fate stop
stop
READING DGB IS GOING TO BE EASY FOR ABOUT TWO GAMES MORE
DON'T FUCK UP THIS ONE
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Post Post #3996 (isolation #59) » Fri Feb 22, 2013 5:08 pm

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Iecerint wrote:The highlight for me was when Faraday sang to Thunderhog. :]

fara... day...?
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Post Post #4001 (isolation #60) » Fri Feb 22, 2013 6:27 pm

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nothing is impossible, reck
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