Gay Mafia II: RIDE THE LIGHTNING (Game Over)

[Ythan]

Hello friends. I would like to take a moment to remind everyone that this is a Reck game and we should think about lynching the mod at some point.

[Ythan]

Nobody Special is online and should be posting here.

[Ythan]

I've played a few and I have.

[Ythan]

nobody special doesnt post. we all know that. but we have many lovely lads who have posted would you care to tell us about some of them?

I'm going down the list, and Nobody Special was listed first.

I have heard that he is a lurker but I checked his recent posts on-site and he has been posting elsewhere since it started. So he's posting somewhere. I don't know the specifics of his nonposting meta.

[Ythan]

Iece last posted on-site in the early afternoon but his profile says he was last logged in well after the starting bell.

[Ythan]

Zor as well by a smaller margin.

[Ythan]

Welp time to read 58 spb posts.

[Ythan]

I think I missed where Trollie stopped being scummy. This came up while reading SPB.

[Ythan]

Ythan what are these profile activity observations actually achieving?

Nothing, unless he srsly expects the first 8 pages of drivel to yield much.

Om and Zoidberg ie shut the fuck up.

[Ythan]

I have no idea what whispersilk is and I don't see any posts in the signup thread?

[Ythan]

matts read was already reversing by then so we didnt press him on it plus his whole reaction and handling of the claim and followup felt p genuinely town to me.

Translation: Trollie claimed protown PR so I shut the fuck up real quick, content with having a nightkill target tonight.

If you think scum isn't going to notice the obvious and already referenced claim then see my previous comment. It just looks like you're posturing for town cred.

[Ythan]

Okay whoah I totally didn't see the word "I" and thought you were telling me to shut the fuck up real quick.

[Ythan]

Fate's posted but not Nuwen blah blah.

[Ythan]

Empire of One Direction was on past 2am.

[Ythan]

By the way this is information that is non-retrievable at a later date so whether or not it every bit of it will eventually be useful I'm posting it.

[Ythan]

so are you for it or against it
or do you want to fence sit some more

This is pretty bad, came up during Gamma.

[Ythan]

^this is why i think matt is scum.

He's right about being able to read me well

MATT STEP IT UP
he's convincing me

Trollie's argument was literally just that one of them must be scum. Why lean the way you did?

[Ythan]

ALL I HAVE IS HAMMERS
SO I'M DISHING IT OUT LIKE ITS CHRISTMAS MOTHER FUCKING DAY

ALL I HAVE IS HAMMERS
AND WHEN I HAMMER IT IS GOING TO BE FABULOUS

so don't let nobody get to L-1
nobody

like, don't pull any L-1 claim business no
in this game there's an intent to L-1
because as soon as that L-1 comes, I'm on it
might be gay but i AINT NO BITCH

You can stop breadcrumbing now.

I don't even get the point of this post.

Holy fuck the signal:noise ratio in here is REALLY low.

Or this one.

hey zoidberg what do you think about the whole trollie v. bois thing

Honestly I'm still trying to parse it, and it's making my head hurt. Currrently I'd stand in line for an SPBz lynch before a Trollie lynch, though.

Why?

well dont keep it a secret darling, share them with us! i am very interested in every single one of your reads : )

+1

For someone who complains about noise and +1s transparency you're not being very useful.

Ythan what are these profile activity observations actually achieving?

Nothing, unless he srsly expects the first 8 pages of drivel to yield much.

This is bad.

vote Zoidberg

[Ythan]

I can support a Zoidy wagon.
I'm obv testing the waters first to see if anyone else is joining before I do.

Be the change you want to see in the world.

[Ythan]

All this sillyness has made it hard for me to focus on reads.
Man, I need to get used to the life of the large themes.

So complain loudly about it.

Trollie/SPB is either town/town or scum/scum and right now I'm leaning towards the former.
Shut up i dun care about consistency.

Reasoning is more important and you're lacking that too. Although now I see you've acknowledged it.

[Ythan]

Why?

Because I find bois to be marginally more scum than Trollie? I would think that would be self-evident.

Why? Don't be dumb.

[Ythan]

The sooner he dies the sooner you'll never see another one.

[Ythan]

Why? Don't be dumb.

I've already outlined it. Don't be dumb.

Contrary to Om I think there's exactly one scum between Trollie and Bois. As I outlined before, to me it reads like Bois was pushing for a quick hammer using faulty meta. Especially in light of the way he STFU real quick once Trollie claimed. I notice with great interest that you skimmed right over that part in your attempt to paint me as scum.

Your read is fabricated and your attempt to smear me is pathetic.

Also I directly referenced the incident you're referring to here btw.

[Ythan]

I notice with great interest that you skimmed right over that part in your attempt to paint me as scum.

This is literally a scum claim are you even serious.

[Ythan]

What's the deal with Trollie is he one of those friends-who-isn't-really-into-mafia-but-plays-because-his-pal-is?

[Ythan]

Game history with whoever indicates he's at least done this a few times. Trollie is scum too.

[Ythan]

Drench in 228 is probably scum. But we have two confirmed scum for right now.

[Ythan]

lol

[Ythan]

Don't just jump back to the one post suggesting you not be lynched it just looks like you're not even taking the game seriously.

[Ythan]

Iso'd Nacho, unsure what was ignored.

[Ythan]

I was going to ask how many votes we were at

I would like to know what he means by "was" here. There's no reason to ask when you can just look but I don't see a reason to want to ask and not do it.

[Ythan]

Don't just jump back to the one post suggesting you not be lynched it just looks like you're not even taking the game seriously.

Post more irrelevant stuff about who was online when.

Not one post I have made in this game was less relevant than this one of yours. You're just lashing out with no useful motivation.

[Ythan]

Iso BT please.

unvote;vote: BT

My town meta on BT doesn't match his play this game but that was his noob meta so I'm not sure on this.

He has two completed real games and one micro, any talk about his meta is nonsense.

[Ythan]

Catching up. Vollkan is trying to hard.

[Ythan]

And Kuribo wasn't helping.

[Ythan]

Still want an answer. Also would like to hear from ythan what makes 228 probably scum. You're not allowed to just say things and leave it at that.

Yes I am there are better things to do.

[Ythan]

I'm willing to lynch any of the below to make the game readable and analyzable:

SlumberPartyBois

66

Quilford

47

Om of the Nom

44

Ythan

33

Drench

27

Pretentiousdra

27

Kawaii

26

TheTrollie

25

Nachomamma8

22

Is that why you're posting pointless fluff like this?

[Ythan]

So, I go to sleep last night while this thread is still locked. I wake up in the morning to the thread open and SIXTEEN pages of posts. So, I naturally did what anyone else would do...

- First, I slapped myself in the face to see if I was awake. It hurt, and there were still 16 pages... Crap.

- Second, I started reading. By the time I got to page 7 or 8, I started commenting to myself about how useless everything I was reading truly was, so I got up and got a bowl of cereal, then came back while eating and started to read.

- Then the time came until I got to page 13 or so and I actually started getting the feel of I'm reading something than means anything. I did actually learn quite a bit from my reading too. Considering I've only completed one game on this site, I'm kinda happy I was even invited to this shindig.

Anyway, here's a list of things I learned.

-

I absolutely hate hydras, period

. I find them to be completely pointless and actually hurtful to the game itself. The game of Mafia is about your role - only you are supposed to know your role. However, if there's two or more of you, it kinda breaks that rule. Henceforth, I am going to treat hydras as one person. If I see inconsistencies between points that a single account on this forum is making, I will NEVER accept "but someone else actually posted that" as an excuse. You all have the same role and therefore the same motivations. If that's how they are actually treated anyway, then I'm glad I understand them. If not, then call me an asshole. Don't care. All this, 'sign your posts' crap is exactly that - crap. Know now that inconsistencies will be attacked - therefore, don't have them.

-

ythan has no sense of humor

. Although his content was useful and I do get a town read from him, every post he has posted in this thread has been dull and boring. Lighten up, dude! This is a party!! *dances*

-

Never unvote without placing a vote somewhere else

. I'm not exactly sure why Kuribo and Kawaii got all buttsore

(heh, gay joke)

about Quill doing it, but I've witnessed what happens when one does said action - therefore, lesson learned.

-

Vote: BT

Drench's post 385 is my reasoning. Two posts, two inconsistencies. Make up ya mind, brotha. Which is it?

p-edit

: Hello OD.

This is a lot of noise for a tiny bit of appropriated content at the end.

[Ythan]

i dont buy the zoid thing. i read this literally as i woke up but he can unvote without revoting as much as he wants in my mind

Do you even know which player you're talking about?

[Ythan]

hmm.

HMMMM.

Unvote, Vote: Thunderhog

lol

you're the empire part of the hydra right

go poke faraday for his opinion on it instead

then join me and maybe ythan if he feels like it for Ultimate Glory

On NS? It wouldn't take much.

[Ythan]

No I want to see what happens when the cheese stands alone.

[Ythan]

Hadn't you already placed your vote before 424?

[Ythan]

Town read here telling you to post more DW thx.

[Ythan]

Post 424 is a big one, IMO. It builds an entire case against BT with only a single sentence

Problem with that Thunderhog is that 424 isn't a case - it only interprets my moves in a particular way so of course it'd "make sense" but only that.

How is that distinct from a case?

[Ythan]

How is that distinct from a case?

Just look at the post. I could take anyone's voteswitch + other suspect and make the same post about them.

It reads as confirmation biased cake icing but it's still what it is.

[Ythan]

We disagree about the meaning of the word case but there's nothing else here for us to discuss imo.

[Ythan]

Ythan is a straight-up douche but I'm leaning town on him

Bitch about it some more.

[Ythan]

I just iso'd myself to make sure you didn't have a point, and you don't. You're just being a little bitch because I started your wagon. You should be spending this time not being an oh so lynchable scumfuck.

[Ythan]

I'm unwowed by this BT wagon tbh. So wow me.

[Ythan]

Wow: ythan

Depends on which one of you this is.

[Ythan]

If only there were some way to distinguish which head was posting.

[Ythan]

Taking bets on how many days of posting around the site until ns makes his way to this game.

[Ythan]

Waffles are pancakes with syrup holes.

[Ythan]

Quil wagon was indeed nonsense.

[Ythan]

SPB is more likely to be scum out of Trollie/SPB but I still think he's town.

I still find this silly.

[Ythan]

volkan just sounds like he's using a lot of words to explain small points and is basically going around in circles. The difference between him and kuribo though is that I felt that kuribo was somewhat genuine in his posting.

Signed.

Yeah I don't see town motivation behind such obvious breadcrumbing.

there is. he said 'he's still town' which means he doesn't find the breadcrumbing town but something else. i would like to know what this something else is. om is going to give me a fucking stupid answer i can already tell

You misunderstood me. I was saying I don't see town motivation for Nacho's breadcrumbing.

This is stupid, at least make up a scum motivation first if you're going to try to do this.

[Ythan]

Hi.

I am totally expendable. Lynch me, kill me, I don't care.

Also, I'm town.

Why did you even sign up. Consider giving your slot to someone who will use it thx.

[Ythan]

Comes out bitching.

[Ythan]

Hi.

I am totally expendable. Lynch me, kill me, I don't care.

Also, I'm town.

It's role-related, dumbass.

When these are literally your only two posts maybe you should replace out anyway.

[Ythan]

My questioning of Quilford consisted of 310 words, in 10 posts, over 47 minutes. I hardly think that's excessive.

But they were all pretty dumb. It's a silly case imo.

[Ythan]

...and this terrible, terrible phrase again. Can we make everyone stop using this? Because it's stupid.

It's not as stupid as the entire Quilford wagon though.

[Ythan]

unvote vote Wyrd

Note the lack of obvscum Trollie on this wagon.

[Ythan]

Guys can we PLEASE lynch Trollie soon.

[Ythan]

so, if you want to complain about the Quilford "wagon" or "line of questioning" or what the hell ever, by all means, feel free to keep it to yourself. It is nothing more or less than what I said it was.

It was dumb and I'm going to tell you it was dumb, but you weren't the really dumb part. And btw give into the dark side.

[Ythan]

Guys can we PLEASE lynch Trollie soon.

And also Zoidberg, I told you these two were scum.

[Ythan]

so, if you want to complain about the Quilford "wagon" or "line of questioning" or what the hell ever, by all means, feel free to keep it to yourself. It is nothing more or less than what I said it was.

It was dumb and I'm going to tell you it was dumb, but you weren't the really dumb part. And btw give into the dark side.

I'm trying to behave myself because I've got two or three games in the past six months where people replaced out because I was a dick to them. I got mislynched at LYLO in another game just because someone wanted me to shut the fuck up. And, finally, I've been told several times that if I could just stop getting sidetracked arguing with the mentally disabled people, I'd probably have a better town winrate.

I feel like you and I could be good friends.

[Ythan]

If it was Katsuki. Sign posts etc.

[Ythan]

Zoid why are you being really shitty right now?

[Ythan]

Kuribo let's hydra some time. You can blame all the angry posts on me.

[Ythan]

I agree with Om and myself from the past.

unvote revote Zoidberg

Is this not obvious to anyone who isn't on his team?

[Ythan]

Shut the fuck up and die Zoidberg.

[Ythan]

Now, if we want to start a P-hydra wagon - I'm in. It's true that I do have a town-lean read on him, but this entire thread would be so much more bearable were he not in it - and in a game this large I'd be willing to sacrifice a town-lean for a much better rest of the game.

Bad.

p-edit 2: Geez guys, shut up so I can post!!! As much as I think BT is scummy, I'm soon going to be willing to move my vote to Zoid. I'll readdress my case against BT at a later date if need-be.

Soon but not now?

[Ythan]

Zoid honestly though what is your problem.

[Ythan]

Zoid honestly though what is your problem.

Eat shit and die.

That doesn't seem to be the way today is going friend.

[Ythan]

Is Zoidberg always shit or is it just someone in this game doing it to him.

[Ythan]

Zoid have you ever played this game before, like even once.

[Ythan]

The Wyrd wagon is not very kawaii.

[Ythan]

So the two guys who attack you are shitlords.

[Ythan]

You're about to get lynched so hard I can feel it from the future.

[Ythan]

I guess cry about it some more until you die.

[Ythan]

You guys can still argue about lynching Fate tomorrow if you want.

[Ythan]

I need Kuribo for my Zoid wagon so stop distracting him.

[Ythan]

Kawaii knows what we're talking about. So we're not a lyncher.

Too bad you five are cooped up into two hydras then.

[Ythan]

More tears please.

[Ythan]

Chesskids gonna chesskid.

[Ythan]

Is that really how you play this game?

[Ythan]

You as in you personally. Is that how you do this?

[Ythan]

I'd like to know what it is before you talk to Nuwen thanks.

[Ythan]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/search.php?a ... 6&sr=posts


Thread opened monday, role pms were sent to mains of all people in hydras.

Give ME a break.

Game start PMs were only sent to hydras.

1st how would u even know and 2nd i am another hydra confirming role pms were sent to all heads.

[Ythan]

How? Quilford claimed he'd done something for X reason. X reason did not appear to make sense. So I questioned him about it.

Yes, it didn't end up being a smoking gun, but that doesn't mean it was "silly" - nor does it mean I was "trying too hard" (hint: "The Interrogator" is my title for a reason)

It was dragged out far too long for how little sense it made as a push.

[Ythan]

How? Quilford claimed he'd done something for X reason. X reason did not appear to make sense. So I questioned him about it.

Yes, it didn't end up being a smoking gun, but that doesn't mean it was "silly" - nor does it mean I was "trying too hard" (hint: "The Interrogator" is my title for a reason)

It was dragged out far too long for how little sense it made as a push.

Time-wise, it lasted 45 minutes.

If you want to talk about things that don't make sense lasting too long, maybe try looking at the first 15 pages of this game.

More constructively:
- Quilford's 343 contained two relevant points:
1) Impliedly, that the p-dra wagon had a risk of going to lynch; and
2) Expressly, that Quilford had decided p-dra was town.

- 1) above was plainly false and 2) was unexplained
- In 350, quilford then added that the reason for the unvote was to "free" his vote. This doesn't make sense because, like I said, you're just as free to move your vote to a player when you are voting somebody else as you are when you are not voting anybody
- 355: I respond to Quilford's argument that the wagon was getting high (It wasn't)
- 361 is just me clarifying the same point about "freeing" (which Quilford argued was being too technical)
- 369: he explained at least the fact that he was compiling the list, so I ended pursuit there.

You can stop explaining. I understand it I just think it's stupid.

[Ythan]

You're a pain in the ass spammer, how about you.

[Ythan]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

Show me one player with a more useless iso.

[Ythan]

Iece or NS I guess but top three is bad.

[Ythan]

Has no iso, I considered that.

[Ythan]

At least when it is replaced we'll only have one to look at.

[Ythan]

Did everyone on the other hydras get PMs to each head? I saw I think two hydras, or at least one head from each, confirm.

[Ythan]

one head from each*

[Ythan]

Striking thing about each your three reasons above is that in every one, you refer to other people's posts to support your own arguments. Insecure, much?

Insecure? No, not at all. I've just never played in a game this large before - not only that, but I'm lazy. It's kinda hard to produce something new and original when there's a bunch of other players trying to do the same thing. So, yes, if I find something that I genuinely agree with then yes I'm going to use the words of others to place my vote. Why should I simply repeat something that's already been said without quoting it? Seems pointless.

Can we kill this monstrosity?

Pretentiousdra

95

Hence, my reasoning for being ok with a p-dra wagon.

It's one thing to copy reasons when you come in late and all the good ones are taken but don't take the bad ones too.

[Ythan]

Hey DGB wanna try making some not worthless posts?

[Ythan]

BT vote Zoid or you're next. That whole post only to throw in a thunderhog vote at the end.

[Ythan]

Saving you a seat Goofball.

[Ythan]

VOTE: Om

I'm a few pages behind, but why the fuck not lynch Om? All pretentiousdra annoyance aside, Om is pretty solidly scum. Zoidberg and DGB are acceptable runners up.

Post reasons or don't post.

[Ythan]

As for the rest of the game, I've got money that Ythan is scum as fuck for defending me. I see no reason why town ythan wouldn't hop on my wagon because he can't read me for shit, whereas scum Ythan knowing I'm town is more likely to be counter-culture read and call me town.

Because there's a sound wagon out there. That you're not on for some reason.

[Ythan]

VOTE: Om

I'm a few pages behind, but why the fuck not lynch Om? All pretentiousdra annoyance aside, Om is pretty solidly scum. Zoidberg and DGB are acceptable runners up.

Post reasons or don't post.

I know DGB can't be expected to have a reaction, but no comment on-you know- the hydras all having a QT and creating a shitlynch therein?

Don't dodge my post because that would mean you acknowledged I called you scum BROSKI

ninja:
wait wat

This is your response to my response to a post BEFORE the one you're referencing. So less retarded please.

[Ythan]

If you're full of shit then one of the other hydras will sort you out. As a non-hydra I don't care until then.

[Ythan]

As for the rest of the game, I've got money that Ythan is scum as fuck for defending me. I see no reason why town ythan wouldn't hop on my wagon because he can't read me for shit, whereas scum Ythan knowing I'm town is more likely to be counter-culture read and call me town.

Because there's a sound wagon out there. That you're not on for some reason.

so you're not hoppig on my wagon because of the Zoidberg wagon, even though that didn't spring up until long after you called my wagon shit?

And whats your read on chesskidhydra?

Your wagon was what it was when I called it what it was. Now that you're finally involved in the game that might change.

Chesskidhydra is nowhere near Trollie/Zoidberg.

[Ythan]

That's kind of a stupid reason.

[Ythan]

Then I hope the people who know what it is are enough to make a majority.

[Ythan]

It's kind of idiotic to assume that a non-alignment-related qt would be all town.

[Ythan]

VOTE: Pretentiousdra

lol nope

you better explain your shit son

Delta I think you might be awful at mafia.

[Ythan]

Wyrdgon looked stupid before hydra qt reveal but

[Ythan]

unvote vote wyrd

Delta why the Phydra vote right then?

[Ythan]

Fatewen what is Phydra trying to stop you from revealing if you're town and they're scum?

[Ythan]

I haven't been voting wyrd today because the wyrd wagon was bad sans-context.

[Ythan]

You mean how I go from a handful of Wyrd posts before last night to voting you today? Yeah sketch.

[Ythan]

It's also worth noting that the scumreads we all have on Wyrd are not just due to Fate. Nuwen's QT entrance was essentially a scumclaim.

PEdit; lololol no

Nuwen's entrance was:

"why the FUCK does this qt exist"

which she was raging about last night in this fashion:

"Mods these days are just doing random shit with no actual basis. Like, giving us a Neighbor qt "just cause" is horse shit with noa ctual basis or balancing taken into consideration. Gonna yell at reck at reckoning blahblahetc."

She usually has a lot more going on in her mind than what she posts, because she's not a "dump all her thoughts as they come out" kind of person.

But yeah she's pretty mad at modding these days as compared to "oldskool" balancing and shit that would take days and run through 100s of hypotheticals before put up for queue as opposed to what she viewed here which was "walplol lets make a hydra qt just cuz"

Its a sensitive topic for her because of my kingdom hearts mafia game I made her play in <_<

The fuck is the point of this post.

[Ythan]

Hmm, I take it you are forbidden from posting the hydra QT here publicly?

Otherwise we're just being asked to take your word that you are relaying events to us without editorializing them.

You know there are five hydras right.

[Ythan]

Hmm, I take it you are forbidden from posting the hydra QT here publicly?

Otherwise we're just being asked to take your word that you are relaying events to us without editorializing them.

You know there are five hydras right.

Yes I do, what's your point?

Are you serious.

There are five playerslots with access to the qt. If any one of them does this then there are four to call them out. Duh.

[Ythan]

you don't like me doing that cause it undermins your mislynch amirite Ythan?

By all means try to undermine it.

[Ythan]

Well we wern't planning on outing the hydra QT JUST YET but well scumFate decided he'd out it first to try and get the jump on us so.

Why would you hide this?

[Ythan]

I haven't been voting wyrd today because the wyrd wagon was bad sans-context.

What changed? We still know nothing about the QT but "EVERYONE is CONVINCED of THIS" et cetera.

Wagon looked stupid when nobody was explaining the entire basis of the case.

[Ythan]

All I remember is the third-party/third-party/town masonry from RMMMM. It was bastard, but it IS reck.

It was town/mafia/sk actually. =3

[Ythan]

I doubt that a qt granted to players based on factors outside of their alignment and unknown before the game entered signups was intended to be well-balanced.

[Ythan]

kill her plz plz plz

I find this reaction interesting. Only after I suggested that the hydra-gang might be composed of a sizable number of scumbags does "One Direction" finally give a "read" on me... in the form of "kill her plz." OMGUS much?

@Wyrd > One-direction doesn't look town to me, regardless of the shenanigans in the QT.

DGB is this the very earliest start of your OD scumread?

[Ythan]

Spoiler:

kill her plz plz plz

I find this reaction interesting. Only after I suggested that the hydra-gang might be composed of a sizable number of scumbags does "One Direction" finally give a "read" on me... in the form of "kill her plz." OMGUS much?

@Wyrd > One-direction doesn't look town to me, regardless of the shenanigans in the QT.

DGB is this the very earliest start of your OD scumread?

DGB masterlist is ready.

TOWNZ

24. DrippingGoofball
08. Wyrd (Nuwen/Fate hydra)
18. Om of the Nom
03. kuribo for post 330
22. BT

LEANING TOWNZ

17. vollkan
10. One Direction (Faraday/Empire hydra)
09. dramonic
11. Gammagooey
23. TheTrollie

PURGATORIEZ

02. DeltaWave - acting strange
04. Iecerint - moar posts plz
07. whispersilk - flake
20. JacobSavage - post content plz

ALTERNATE WINCON

12. Nachomamma8 - hammer-related wincon
01. Nobody Special - really depressing bastard-mod wincon

LEANING SCUMZ

14. Zoidberg
13. Ythan
06. Slumberpartybois (MattP/kanyeknowsbest hydra)
05. zoraster - few posts, tone is disappointed-to-get-scum-role-PM
15. ThunderHog - isn't scum with P-dra, too much emphasis to explain why he might come off as "careful."
25. Drench - throwing random shit in hopes some will stick

SCUMZ

16. Quilford - no read on vollkan or kuribo??? Too lynch-happy. Defended P-dra for nothing.
21. Pretentiousdra (chesskid/Ellibereth/Action Dan hydra)
19. Kawaii (Kise/Katsuki hydra)

Thanks DGB that's why I asked.

[Ythan]

Ythan's posting is complete trash, P-dra is just chest-beating.

This is pretty rich coming from you. Shall we take another look at that iso?

[Ythan]

do you really think Faraday scum will make it to endgame though?

trust

me on this DGB

Also, there is no substitute for a good old-fashioned scumlynch.

Why the defeatist attitude?

But DGB Action Dan just made a craptastic scum post in the QT, like "Lol is he still trying to retroactively justify this fate scumread" levels of bad

Katsuki is the surefire lynch here

It has been demonstrated that you're allowed to quote from the qt so stop broadly summarizing things you want to reference.

[Ythan]

What's this caught for the wrong reason shit dgb keeps repeating. Does that sound like something intelligent?

[Ythan]

Delta explain Om scumread.

[Ythan]

I'm re-isoing. My last run was really early and I missed a bunch who hadn't posted yet.

[Ythan]

Someone says something that's not about the wagon she's pushing.

Obvious scum.

Seriously dgb don't you have a reputation as a not shit poster?

[Ythan]

OK FINALLY READING AND IT'S ON PAGE 42.

Three and a half hours later...

[Ythan]

Yeah Kuribo said DGB made a multiball slip?

[Ythan]

I mean I just can't put myself in a town frame of mind, regardless of experience level, and think this is a valid point to make.

I mean I think Zoid is complete shit but this was actually a valid point and I don't see how it isn't.

[Ythan]

Welp I cut the Zoid quote out but just follow the link.

[Ythan]

I don't read that as a multiball slip. Makes just as much sense assuming only one scum group.

[Ythan]

811 is though, previous post was to the first one.

[Ythan]

Wait no it isn't. She goes from lynch-within-spammers-to-hit-scum to how-other-spammers-will-die-alignment-independent.

[Ythan]

She doesn't say anything about crosskills.

[Ythan]

I dont think we have scum hydras this game.
Has wyrd posted yet?

uh

[Ythan]

First, her talking about lynching a spammer and hopefully hitting scum and her talking about not being able to rely on scum to kill spammers are two separate things.

Second, I was uhing at you saying no scum hydras and asking if one of the hydras had even posted yet.

[Ythan]

DGB what's the case, I want to believe. Is it just "he's mad I said he's scum for the wrong reason".

[Ythan]

There was a welcome pause in the spamming that gave me a chance to get a handle on the game, so that I can start spamming myself.

What's the matter Ythan? Did I catch your buddy?

If you can actually put in a tiny bit of effort to show me why this is a good case I'd be that much more likely to buy it. Why aren't you doing that?

[Ythan]

DGB what's the case, I want to believe. Is it just "he's mad I said he's scum for the wrong reason".

Are you asking for the long explanation instead of the standard DGB shorthand? If you say 'yes' I will deliver.

Yes, please. It was a sincere request.

[Ythan]

I'm assuming you haven't ISOed OD yet?

Doing that atm.

I'm voting OD because there is basically nothing useful that is being posted by them.

And seeing non-shit posts too.

[Ythan]

'OMGUS much' a thing said by an actual player outside of the newbie queue in this game

I think that's a reasonable tell sometimes? I don't, however, think it's a reasonable explanation for her read on you.

[Ythan]

OD. DGB's explaining her read on you to me, could you do the same for your read on her? I read your initial vote as a hatevote but then you said you were calling her scum (which I didn't actually see).

[Ythan]

I don't like you giving specific examples of your own town-effort. Especially it being the catchup posts. Like that's so hard for scum to do.

[Ythan]

Ythan I think I like you.
Do you... like me too?

ugu

[Ythan]

Holy shit this eats up time.

[Ythan]

Uguu~

[Ythan]

I find plenty of their posts in 1-23 legit. Point on 24 could just as easily not be true, it's just an interpretation. Again, I do see useful posts in 25-54.

Actually his vote on you may be a thing. I initially read it as a hatevote, which I took in stride because honestly I was sympathizing pretty hard, but you had actually just made a reasonable post when he did that and I don't see the motivation for it at that time.

[Ythan]

the only person who felt obligated to tag on shitty reasoning.
this is a horrible reason for this vote and I endorse your death.

As I said to Wyrd I don't get this.

[Ythan]

DGB I was content to go the rest of the game just ignoring all your posts why you gotta do this.

Hydras, who first suggested coordinating actions in the qt? How did each of you respond?

[Ythan]

unvote vote Zoidberg

I missed you.

[Ythan]

What if the hydra qt is just a scum qt.

[Ythan]

What if the hydra qt is just a scum qt.

I recognize that this is retarded actually.

[Ythan]

unvote vote Zoidberg

I missed you.

See, that's the sort of thing that gets you a sweet, sweet spot in my scum category. Why Zoid, why now, are you derailing? Did I catch your buddy? Were you hoping I'd trip on my shoelaces and I disappointed you?

I wanted to get off Wyrd and this is a good place for my vote atm. Halfway through isos, perhaps I'll have something more to your taste later on. At the moment I haven't picked an alternative wagon.

[Ythan]

also the hydra qt is like 450 posts long now. itd b really hard to find the first instance of that shit since it didnt happen til at least like 150 in

Not really. Do it.

[Ythan]

Iece that's a really obnoxious format.

[Ythan]

Next time you make one put links in it.

[Ythan]

Zoidberg's 35 is the first early game post to rub the wrong way.

What is it about his vote on the wagon that rubs you in a way the other ones don't?

[Ythan]

Townreads on Drench and Om (~75).

Where does an early Om townread come from?

[Ythan]

Not sure why Ythan is so fixated on NobodySpecial when stuff has already happened.

I actually explained in the specific post you referenced why I made the one comment I did on NS.

[Ythan]

Actually no you reference 235 in the next post. But it's still there and you still clearly read that post.

[Ythan]

Not sure why Ythan thinks Drench 228 is scum. I think Drench is town, and that post isn't really problematic to me.

Gigantic ad hom in response to an attack.

[Ythan]

Ythan doesn't understand the BT wagon (503). Which would have been fine earlier, but his comeback posts were bad enough that I'm surprised he went there.

Ythan didn't like the Quilford wagon, either (518)? Which wagons did he like, then?

What because 2/25 weren't good enough?

[Ythan]

Ythan suddenly wants to lynch Trollie (663).

There was actually nothing sudden about this and I even isoed myself to be sure.

[Ythan]

Mmmmm interesting from Wyrd (782), but it's not like PretentiousHydra is the only hydra in the game. So that's dumb.

I didn't even think of this. This is a good point I think?

[Ythan]

I remain totally mystified at Om's summary of page 14 (821). WTF.

idgi it makes sense to me. Like I went back to it expecting to see and looking for something insensible and didn't see it.

[Ythan]

BT returns, makes a pretty good post, votes Thunderhog for some reason. There's some anti-Thunderhog stuff in there, but idk whether the vote makes sense to me.

Om DISLIKES the BT post (869). I wish he would explain why. EDIT: Oh, sounds like Om is butthurt over pressure from BT ages ago that was minor enough that I don't even remember it.

You just criticized a post and immediately turned around and wondered why Om did the same.

[Ythan]

Ythan, Wyrd and CHESSKIDhydra have directly accused the other person of grossly misrepresenting what happened in the QT. Inappropriate editorializing has obviously occurred (945).

Does what I said not make perfectly clear sense to you?

[Ythan]

What I said about five hydras

is like basic obvious shit

[Ythan]

I didn't say they would never do it because they would get called out

I SAID IF THEY DID IT THEY WOULD GET CALLED OUT

[Ythan]

Ergo if they DON'T get called out they probably didn't do it. Unless they're all on the same team or the townies were feeling forgiving? idk

[Ythan]

Ergo if they DON'T get called out they probably didn't do it. Unless they're all on the same team or the townies were feeling forgiving? idk

It is IMPOSSIBLE for both Wyrd and CHESSKIDhydra to be presenting the QT content in an appropriate manner. IMPOSSIBLE.

AT LEAST one of them is bogus.

My GUESS is that CHESSKID is bogus, because I doubt SPB and OD would demure if Wyrd had really scumslipped. That would be retarded on their part. A scumslip is a scumslip.

But Wyrd being the truth-teller means that a bunch of town players wanted to bully Fate for the lolz, including MattP and Faraday, and that pisses me off so much that I don't think it's true, either. IDK maybe they're just embarrassed now or something and that's why they won't clarify.

I'm pretty sure all will be revealed, I can't imagine a situation in which the hydras are unable to clarify this.

[Ythan]

Unless they're all on the same team or the townies were feeling forgiving? idk

This was the point I was trying to make.

Unless you, Ythan, already know the alignments of people in the QT then you should be concerned at the different interpretations of what is going on. If most of them are scum your previous excuse of "they'd be outed" no longer applies.

You're literally retarded I explained that a clear as glass.

[Ythan]

There was no "slip" and Kats was sticking to the fake that he slipped plan at that point in town, which is obviously not going to work now.

So Kats was really that desperate to get Fate out of the way on Day 1 that he faked the existence of a scumslip to do it?
Wow, I just lost any chance of ever trusting him in this game.

There's a difference between calling someone's actions scummy and broadcasting your future interpretation of their actions. This was a pointless post.

[Ythan]

the only person who felt obligated to tag on shitty reasoning.
this is a horrible reason for this vote and I endorse your death.

As I said to Wyrd I don't get this.

unvote vote Zoidberg

I missed you.

"Why is Zoidberg scum his point against Fate calling for a NS lynch but not voting NS is legit"

"yeah Zoidberg vote time"

Like I said not even trying. Also look earlier in my ISO for reasoning about him thinking I was town

I'm so scummy I'm not even trying to hide it because I agreed with something my scumread said. Yeah ur shit.

[Ythan]

OD. DGB's explaining her read on you to me, could you do the same for your read on her? I read your initial vote as a hatevote but then you said you were calling her scum (which I didn't actually see).

What do you mean by hate vote? Hated her post or her playerslot in general and what she was doing.

By hatevote I mean she was just posting like shit earlier in the game and based on the other text in your vote post that's what it looked like you were voting her for. Not alignment-related.

[Ythan]

Actually DGB we're paying you no attention because early game you decided it would be funny to not provide any content and attempt to form a wagon on us on the basis that we all hate [removeds].

And then you started bitching about people who post a lot, and we decided we really didn't care what you had to say at all, that this is exactly your scum meta of being useless as fuck until later in the game, when you come in with shit reads (oh hey we're at that part already!)

So yeah. SUP NIGGUH

I'll let the other players be a judge of this post. I don't think it needs explaining.

Sounds like a pretty accurate representation of your play.

[Ythan]

the QT situation was hilariously stupid.

This analysis is hilariously stupid.

[Ythan]

But really though Kuribo me and you should hydra some time I wasn't joking earlier.

[Ythan]

I got a puppy. But I'll get back to this.

[Ythan]

Okay got it.

[Ythan]

The first ~20 pages or so are literally garbage that you can easily skip.

lol

[Ythan]

Oh good it never ends.

[Ythan]

Hey guys!

[Ythan]

also where's ythan at?

I'm around.

[Ythan]

Hey guys!

Please catch up and lay a vote down.

[Ythan]

Spoiler: for me

The Mini-Librarian - 0
DeltaWave - 0
Iecerint - 0
zoraster - 5 (Pretentiousdra, Wyrd, One Direction, Om of the Nom, JacobSavage)
Slumberpartybois - 0
TheButtonmen - 1 (DrippingGoofball)
Wyrd - 0
dramonic - 0
One Direction - 0
Nachomamma8 - 0
Ythan - 0
Zoidberg - 1 (TheButtonmen)
Quilford - 0
vollkan - 0
Om of the Nom - 0
Kawaii - 0
JacobSavage - 6 (DeltaWave, Iecerint, Quilford, Slumberpartybois, Zoidberg, zoraster)
Pretentiousdra - 0
BT - 0
TheTrollie - 0
DrippingGoofball - 3 (Kawaii, The Mini-Librarian, Bella)
Drench - 0

Not Voting - 6 (dramonic, Nachomamma8, Ythan, vollkan, BT, TheTrollie)

[Ythan]

Oh Zoidberg has a WT Snacks alt.

[Ythan]

JS is the play today.

On an unrelated note, how did you sleep last night Ythan?

Huh.

[Ythan]

Zor wagon isn't better than Jacob wagon.

[Ythan]

Fate if you're town, and these latest posts aren't evidence of its, you're a massive pile of suckage. Get back to Mafia 101, read the game, and say something intelligent.

This is a really shitty juvenile response to the preceding posts.