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Rules (format and majority of rules shamelessly stolen from Juls):


Votes must be or contained within vote tags and in a form similar to Vote: Playername. If I do not see your vote, it will not count. Unvotes are nice but not required.
Unless it is explicitly stated in your role PM that you can do so, do not talk about this game outside of the game thread. All players who are allowed communication outside of the thread
Lynches require a majority of votes (50% of the active players +1). If a 50% + 1 majority is not reached by deadline the game will progress to night with no lynch.
Voting for require only 50% of the vote to occur.
If a lynch occurs, the game enters twilight and players may continue to talk in thread until it is locked and a lynch scene is posted. No votes/unvotes will count in twilight.
Once you are killed/lynched you may have a single "bah" post consisting of the word “bah” and that’s it.


Deadlines for each game day will be 2 weeks.
If a replacement is required within the second week of a deadline period, 24 hours per RL day it takes to find a replacement will be added to the deadline of the current day.
Treat this game as a commitment. If you are going to be V/LA please post in thread or send me a PM.
Players must post (unless they have noted V/LA) or they will be prodded. Weekend days count as 12 hours each. An excessive amount of prods during the game will result in a replacement. Players may request prods of other players at anytime but I will use my discretion when sending these types of prods (I won't be your personal spam-bot).
If a player fails to pick up their prod within 48 hours they will be replaced.
Each night will last approximately 48 hours, during which time all night actions must be submitted via PM.


All Mafia Scum Rules apply in this game. Please read and obey them.
Have fun and be respectful to your fellow players.
Do not speak about this game outside of the thread unless your role specifies that you may do so.

If the moderator makes a mistake, please address your grievance in thread or in PM. Please point out vote count errors in thread only.
Do not edit posts. Do not use invisible text. Do not use small text.
Do not use cryptography.
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The moderator reserves the right to add/change/delete rules. If this occurs, a notice will be posted in thread.
If a role PM or other game rule is misunderstood by the player or a rule is not made completely clear, the moderator reserves the right to correct the rule or PM based on its intent. The moderator guarantees that changes or corrections of these nature will be considered for overall fairness and game balance.
Most importantly, play to win. Gamethrowing will not be tolerated.


With more than one hydra in the game it should be noted that I do not abide players posting outside of their hydras with any sort of regularity; if it looks like it happens more than a random occasional accident I won't hesitate to replace out the hydra with the player who doesn't have such an issue or replace the hydra for another player completely.


This game has partial no reveal. This means that character name and alignment color only will be posted. The color will be what is typically considered to be town. If you are color-blind let the moderator know so he may state it more explicitly.
At least one player in the game has the win condition, "You win when Jim Moriarty (alias: Richard Brook) is dead or safely ensconced behind bars."

Sounds delicious

That's boring.

VOTE: MagnaofIllusion

Sweet Child of Mine is second only to November Rain as the most overrated song ever.

Looks like it falls to me to make the first comment on how, yet again, the good guys seem to be in the minority. Although this time the majority may not be necessarily bad, just misguided idiots. If it was not clear yet, I had no idea on the flavor of this particular incarnation of Sherlock Holmes, and had to look up both my role and who this Richard Brook character is from a wiki just to understand what side I was on.

VOTE: Rob13

I rolled 8 with a 12-sided die. To verify the result, I rolled two 6-sided dice and they each came up with 4. Clearly Fortune favors Rob13 being Sherlock.

Oh awesome. Feysal is scum.

So after all that ranting at me, as Town, on MLP, for "ruining" the "confusion about inverted teams Towntell", you immediately bring it out without giving weaker players a chance to bring it to the table. And not voting MoI from the start, while voting one of the weakest players in this roster? Come on.

UNVOTE: MagnaofIllusion (but... but... this makes me so sad...)
VOTE: Feysal

^ Obviously not Empire. We won't be signing our posts (we should be distinctive enough anyway; he's the pretty one and I'm the one who rants at her scumreads), but in this case the "I"'s identity is relevant for meta purposes if you people want them; I'm talking about MLP Redemption. No link because tablet post before sleep.

Good enough for me.



This hydra post is brought to you by zachrulez, but I'm sure I'll start forgetting to sign posts at some point after page 2.

↑ Jabberwock wrote:^ Obviously not Empire. We won't be signing our posts (we should be distinctive enough anyway; he's the pretty one and I'm the one who rants at her scumreads), but in this case the "I"'s identity is relevant for meta purposes if you people want them; I'm talking about MLP Redemption. No link because tablet post before sleep.

Behold, the fruits of my battle with a Kindle!

Zach, we'd actually appreciate it if your hydra, in particular, signed each post. Gummybear can do whatever.

(Also, it's nice to see you again and eeeee I finally get to play with Sotty. (\(°w°)/) Happy Wondercritter.)

↑ Jabberwock wrote:

↑ Jabberwock wrote:^ Obviously not Empire. We won't be signing our posts (we should be distinctive enough anyway; he's the pretty one and I'm the one who rants at her scumreads), but in this case the "I"'s identity is relevant for meta purposes if you people want them; I'm talking about MLP Redemption. No link because tablet post before sleep.

Behold, the fruits of my battle with a Kindle!

Zach, we'd actually appreciate it if your hydra, in particular, signed each post. Gummybear can do whatever.

(Also, it's nice to see you again and eeeee I finally get to play with Sotty. (\(°w°)/) Happy Wondercritter.)

Well Sotty will probably sign all of her posts and doesn't generally have access most of the time during the day, so anything doesn't get signed for whatever reason you can presume comes from me.

That's enough for us, thanks.

↑ Jabberwock wrote:So after all that ranting at me, as Town, on MLP, for "ruining" the

"confusion about inverted teams Towntell"

, you immediately bring it out without giving weaker players a chance to bring it to the table. And not voting MoI from the start, while voting one of the weakest players in this roster? Come on.

Could you explain how that would be a towntell? It seems like that would be a sign that the person didn't read more than anything. The moderator was very clear that there were inverted teams in this game at the bottom of his first post and in the flavor of his second post.

I have been unceremoniously robbed of my random vote start. grrr.

I went and skimmed this Pony game for the question about inverted town and what not. Though I find it pretty weird Feysal would come out with this opening while going off his head there about it, In the end I conclude since:

1. Tierce was indeed town in MLP and
2. Feysal wouldn't touch this with a hundred foot pole if he was scum and
3. I myself had similar confusion since I'm not a flavor fiend,

I'm not voting there.

On the other hand, here is where my vote is going

↑ Rob14 wrote:

↑ Jabberwock wrote:So after all that ranting at me, as Town, on MLP, for "ruining" the

"confusion about inverted teams Towntell"

, you immediately bring it out without giving weaker players a chance to bring it to the table. And not voting MoI from the start, while voting one of the weakest players in this roster? Come on.

Could you explain how that would be a towntell? It seems like that would be a sign that the person didn't read more than anything. The moderator was very clear that there were inverted teams in this game at the bottom of his first post and in the flavor of his second post.

Go read Feysal's take on it in the game I linked.

↑ Magister Ludi wrote:I have been unceremoniously robbed of my random vote start. grrr.

I went and skimmed this Pony game for the question about inverted town and what not. Though I find it pretty weird Feysal would come out with this opening while going off his head there about it, In the end I conclude since:

1. Tierce was indeed town in MLP and
2. Feysal wouldn't touch this with a hundred foot pole if he was scum and
3. I myself had similar confusion since I'm not a flavor fiend,

I'm not voting there.

On the other hand, here is where my vote is going

Vote: sottyrullez

Explain your point 2 and that vote.

I'm hearing a very loud noise that sounds very much like a chainsaw.

Regarding Hydras, I'm happy to play in a game with them. But I find both of the following actions by hydras to be anti-town at best:

1. Waiting to post until you have discussed with your partner. Sometimes it might be reasonable to withhold a vote until you agree. And sharing role information unprompted without talking about it might not be a good idea. But if you don't tell us who you think is scum, you are not acting in the interests of the town.

2. Not signing posts. It makes you harder to read. If you're town, you don't want to be hard to read.


VOTE: Feysal
Not so much for ruining some potential tell I'm unfamiliar with, but for calling the town "misguided idiots". Could be designed to reduce morale.

@Magister: is there any reason for the sottyrulez vote?

↑ Herodotus wrote:Regarding Hydras, I'm happy to play in a game with them. But I find both of the following actions by hydras to be anti-town at best:

2. Not signing posts. It makes you harder to read. If you're town, you don't want to be hard to read.


VOTE: Feysal
Not so much for ruining some potential tell I'm unfamiliar with, but for calling the town "misguided idiots". Could be designed to reduce morale.

Pretty lousy reasoning. IIRC, you're a better player than this. You're agreeing with the wagon, so at the very least I expect you to comment on that tell. The relevant bits in the other game are not a long read and are a good source of meta.

As for signing posts, know that we have no issues clarifying authorship of particular posts if someone asks. However, I believe every member of a hydra should be held accountable for their partner's posts as well, and so it makes no sense to dissociate them from the get go, as I find that tends to promote an ugly kind of hydra dissonance. Our request for the sottyrulez hydra to sign their posts has different (undisclosed) reasoning.

Oops, missed that link. I still think that's a silly town tell, but I suppose his opinion of it is what matters. At the same time, I don't find it overly suspicious for him to point it out because of the level of the player list in this game. I don't think anyone would expect to see huge levels of confusion about inverted teams when most people in the game (me being an exception) are highly experienced.

At the same time, I consider the following a town tell:

↑ Feysal wrote:Although this time the majority may not be necessarily bad, just misguided idiots.

This suggests to me that he knows of a role in the game whose flavor indicates they wish to protect Moriarty for non-pure-evil reasons. I can only see town as having this information on Day 1.

I had forgotten about the waiting and the page refreshing...

Wait a second. Zach, did you just accuse Jabberwock of chainsaw-defending yourself?

A post appears!

Pretty lousy reasoning. IIRC, you're a better player than this. You're agreeing with the wagon, so at the very least I expect you to comment on that tell. The relevant bits in the other game are not a long read and are a good source of meta.

The tell isn't the relevant part to your argument or mine. You voted Feysal for ruining it. I voted Feysal for being in a position opposite to town morale. I later skimmed your linked game, which validated your vote, but I see no reason to comment on that. I'll let Feysal respond first.

As for signing posts, know that we have no issues clarifying authorship of particular posts if someone asks. You might have a bit of an issue figuring out who pokes fun at GodzIllusion more. :3 However, I believe every member of a hydra should be held accountable for their partner's posts as well, and so it makes no sense to dissociate them from the get go, as I find that tends to promote an ugly kind of hydra dissonance. Our request for the sottyrulez hydra to sign their posts has different (undisclosed) reasoning.

When trying to read zachrulez's alignment, something that zach says will mean different things than something that sotty says.

↑ Rob14 wrote:Oops, missed that link. I still think that's a silly town tell, but I suppose his opinion of it is what matters. At the same time, I don't find it overly suspicious for him to point it out because of the level of the player list in this game. I don't think anyone would expect to see huge levels of confusion about inverted teams when most people in the game (me being an exception) are highly experienced.

At the same time, I consider the following a town tell:

↑ Feysal wrote:Although this time the majority may not be necessarily bad, just misguided idiots.

This suggests to me that he knows of a role in the game whose flavor indicates they wish to protect Moriarty for non-pure-evil reasons. I can only see town as having this information on Day 1.

Mod's post #1 gives similar information?

↑ Herodotus wrote:The tell isn't the relevant part to your argument or mine.

By that I mean what rob13 said - it's Feysal's opinion of it that matters, not whether the tell is good or not.

↑ Herodotus wrote:I had forgotten about the waiting and the page refreshing...

Wait a second. Zach, did you just accuse Jabberwock of chainsaw-defending yourself?

Nah man. Noting a potential chainsaw defense of Feysal from Magistar. That post was defensive of the attack on Feysal and came before Feysal even bothered to address the votes on him.

Feysal is totally worth waggoning here. If someone believes in that tell, they won't mention it first.

VOTE: feysal

Herodotus probably just can't read. Feysal was clearly calling the roles misguided idiots, not the players. Not sure how this is supposed to be demoralizing.

The possible town tell that rob points out is underwhelming.

Yep Herodotus clearly can't read as zach is saying that magister is chainsawing feysal. Which zach says.