/in-vitational 12: Mafia in #YOLOville - All wrapped up!

[Johhog]

VOTE: penguin_alien

[Johhog]

Cuz he's got a messy avatar, duh.

[Johhog]

Nah, no use for that. I'm quite happy with my vote, and I ain't doing much before ze penguin gets back.

[Johhog]

Yeahhhh, could go for DV too. But I want my Penguin. Oh yes I do.

[Johhog]

Whoa, hold on Tierce? You're buying that? Because that just made him go from meh to scum on my list.

[Johhog]

I'm half inclined to actually do something with my vote, but I don't want penguin_alien to escape by just lurking so this was a completely unnecessary post.

[Johhog]

Johog, why are you singling out penguin_alien for lurking?

I'm not. But I'm voting him, and I don't want to see him escape by me unvoting him just because he's not showing up.

[Johhog]

Sorry, thought I did. You're making up things as you go.

[Johhog]

Johog, why are you singling out penguin_alien for lurking?

I'm not. But I'm voting him, and I don't want to see him escape by me unvoting him just because he's not showing up.

Escape from what exactly? It's not like your vote on him was well reasoned to begin with.

You're a funny guy.

Sorry, thought I did. You're making up things as you go.

But you don't think I'm scum?

Obviously I do.

[Johhog]

I don't know, I think that your Penguin vote is weird considering there's someone else who you actually think is scum. (I don't really imagine you having a super strong read from that one post, but I could be wrong I guess)

You don't want to see her escape by you unvoting her.
How is she escaping, exactly?

Unvote, Vote: Johhog

ben let's go here

You're both missing the point. I don't want lurking to be rewarding. I don't think you should be able to deflect suspicion simply by not answering. Now penguin_alien has posted, and as I have a stronger scum read I'm happy with changing my vote.

UNVOTE: penguin_alien
VOTE: DeasVail

For pretty much the reasons Tierce outlined, even if she bizarrely accepted DV's obviously made up excuse. Still trying to wrap my mind around that, btw. Haven't played much with Tierce, but it feels surreal that she would accept that as town. I guess I'll dig around for meta.

[Johhog]

I'm pretty sure that saying that I've seen CTD play before (he asks for a massclaim every game) means something was up?

Oh fuck, didn't know that. I fail.

UNVOTE: DeasVail

[Johhog]

V/LA for two days. I'm sick. Sorry.

[Johhog]

I'm back.

I saw the reasoning you gave. I don't buy it.

Uh, your problem? That is my personal policy. I play this game for fun. And lurking being rewarding detracts a lot of the fun. I think you should be rewarded for playing.

meta to see if tierce is a sucker for V/LA excuses...?

Huh?

also what made DV's excuse so fake to you?

Shouldn't have to explain that one. If you don't know that CrashTestDummie apparently always massclaims the whole series of posts by DeasVail looks bizarre.

[Johhog]

Elaborate.

[Johhog]

Elaborate.

Well hi! That was a fast catch. In the last two games we've played together where you've been town, you've felt really dynamic. Here you feel like your watching the party more than enjoying it. I'm only on page 3...4...do you get better?

I'm aware of this. But think this one through. Does me playing differently necessarily mean that I'm scum?

[Johhog]

The Vi wagon is meh. I think it looks like normal Vi. I prefer this one.

VOTE: Cogito Ergo Sum

Playing very differently from Team Mafia, where he was town.

[Johhog]

The Vi wagon is meh. I think it looks like normal Vi. I prefer this one.

VOTE: Cogito Ergo Sum

Playing very differently from Team Mafia, where he was town.

I vote Johhog and say it's partly because he feels different from when he was town.

He says there could be a reason for that.

Votes someone else for the same reason. >_>

Facepalm points: over 9000.

[Johhog]

Konowa, I still think you should answer the question directed at me, though.

You're acting very differently from that town game we played together too. Why?

[Johhog]

If all the people bolded could do something productive with their lives it would be most appreciated.

That's exactly what I'm doing, staying out of this thread.

Wickedestjr is sooo town it burns. I could get behind a CTD lynch though. I think he's pretty clearly trying to stay out of the limelight by asking pseudo-scumhunting questions, that hardly can be used to actually lure out the scum.

UNVOTE: Cogito Ergo Sum
VOTE: CrashTextDummie

[Johhog]

I'm here again, etc etc.

[Johhog]

Oh geez. How can the N-wagon be larger than the CTD-wagon? CTD in this game is conformity personified. He's doing everything to avoid looking scummy. All his actions are designed to be uncontroversial enough to avoid scrutiny while original enough to not look like buddying.

[Johhog]

You don't think that's scummy?

[Johhog]

Johhog, answer this instead of throwing more BS at me:

I could get behind a CTD lynch though. I think he's pretty clearly trying to stay out of the limelight by asking pseudo-scumhunting questions, that hardly can be used to actually lure out the scum.

Please give concrete examples of me asking pseudo-scumhunting questions. The accusation that I'm "clearly trying to stay out of the limelight" is patently ridiculous because I've clearly been very pro-active in trying to get wagons going and have been very vocal with my suspicions.

Also, you haven't said a single peep about N and Penguin-Alien (other than your random vote shenanigans), the two leading wagons, and I find that very problematic.

You've been trying to get wagons going?! You've only voted for people who were already popular wagons or were heavily suspected. Your statement is simply not true. All your opinions are unnaturally uncontroversial.

Also, reading N as town, could be persuaded to vote penguin_alien at deadline or something, if it's needed.

[Johhog]

Can't say I'm interested in you. If other people want me to answer your questions, then that's OK. But it's wasted time to give in to your laughable threats.

[Johhog]

Secondly, offering to vote at deadline is exactly the kind of stance a scumbag would want to take in this situation, as it absolves him of any kind of responsibility. Does Johhog think she's a good wagon? A scum-driven wagon? Does he lean scum or town on her? I would expect a pro-town person to give thoughts on this along with an offer to deadline lynch. That he is being deliberately opaque on the matter (his wording "[...] if it's needed" indicates that he would vote her for the sole purpose of avoiding no lynch and gives zero indication of his thoughts on the matter) serves a scum agenda exclusively.

False. I just think Penguin is a tiny bit scummier than N, and everything is better than a no lynch.

[Johhog]

UNVOTE: CrashTextDummie
VOTE: penguin_alien