Micro 134 (F11) (Game Over!)

RachMarie · Post Post #7 (isolation #0) » Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:32 am

VOTE: Sotty

For being my first mod

RachMarie · Post Post #15 (isolation #1) » Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:59 am

I gather we have 2 hydras here..

RachMarie · Post Post #16 (isolation #2) » Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:00 am

CES more details of why you put Sixty at L-2 in RVS please...

RachMarie · Post Post #20 (isolation #3) » Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:08 am

LOL I ♥ you CES... but that won't stop me from watching you carefully, since I know how sharp a player you are.

Pedit ah ok thanks for clarifying.

RachMarie · Post Post #26 (isolation #4) » Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:05 am

Do you have any reasoning?? Something resembling oh a case for example?

Pedit (that was to JasonT)

RachMarie · Post Post #28 (isolation #5) » Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:14 am

Yep that is my thought too Jason comes in, puts someone at L-1 and pushes for a hammer, and gives no reasoning, no case, nothing.

That was a quick RVS...

VOTE: JasonT

Explain yourself....

As for CES, I played in a Newbie game with him that was not much of a Newbie game. He guessed the scum team practically off the bat. (He was the Doc in that game and we had a JK as well). Tierce was in that game too. So I know he is a smart cookie as town, so therefore I will be examining him carefully because I am sure he is also very good at playing scum.

RachMarie · Post Post #33 (isolation #6) » Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:24 am

Working on that. It takes me a while, especially since I have only played with 1 of the 4 in games before, as far as I know. NS knows Empire, but I don't think I have seen him posting will have to look for non hydra games he is in. Vi and Mina I have seen in non game postings but not played a game with before. So again will be taking a look. It is obvious that both sets of hydras know each other well, and I need to determine if it is buddying or not. For my research any links ya all can provide will be mucho appreciated ♥

RachMarie · Post Post #34 (isolation #7) » Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:25 am

I have not talked to CES since the non game post I can find the link iffen you want.

RachMarie · Post Post #41 (isolation #8) » Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:50 am

Thanks for changing CES, it is too early for a lynch, and I have played with FT before it would not surprise me if he came in and hammered without paying attention. I don't know Josh, but I gather from what was said that he too tends to derp.

Besides Nacho needs to get in here with more than just an RVS vote.

RachMarie · Post Post #44 (isolation #9) » Mon Feb 18, 2013 12:10 pm

oops missed that I was reading the links.

Empire you are quite a waller... And I can see why you know my bf so well, been in a few games with him. Even scum buds together. Also the comment of (I presume it was Tierce on this one), of Empire and we being in the same alignment being the end of the world makes sense now.

As for whether the slots are Town or not, I really need more data to work with guys n gals.

We have two players we have heard nothing from. And a couple that have not said much yet.... Leaving it pretty skewed atm for a big picture person like me.

I am also feeling a bit out of my league here... WOW how did you find the time to do all of that in your Wiki Tierce? Mine is woefully out of date and extremely basic.

Pedit It wasn't??? then why did you vote for D and C?

RachMarie · Post Post #46 (isolation #10) » Mon Feb 18, 2013 12:28 pm

Wrong game FT

RachMarie · Post Post #50 (isolation #11) » Mon Feb 18, 2013 12:41 pm

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=24690 Micro 102 is the game FT is referring to, He was the Town Cop I was VT. Majiffy the SK and Jacob Savage was the Cult Leader. We lynched him because of his play and the fact we figured that he had been recruited by then by the CL.

RachMarie · Post Post #53 (isolation #12) » Mon Feb 18, 2013 12:48 pm

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=23682 Open 456 Faith plus one

You were replaced and then I replaced into this game.... (which is the game I meant).

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=24293 Open 469 Medical Mafia

I replaced your slot in this one.

So I have seen your play in other games besides the one you remember.

RachMarie · Post Post #55 (isolation #13) » Mon Feb 18, 2013 1:02 pm

Cause I have seen it happen.

Besides I was not saying you are scum. you seem awfully defensive. I still have yet to determine who is scum and who is not.

RachMarie · Post Post #58 (isolation #14) » Mon Feb 18, 2013 1:20 pm

To answer your question D and C
I know there are people who play great as Town and lousy as Scum, but in general if they are really good at one they usually are really good at the other. CES is very hard for a lot of peeps to read, especially since he talks in one liners most of the time, and that adds to the whole need to really examine him carefully before deciding he is Town.

To answer your question FT it was RVS and we were on page 2. I have seen peeps come in and do their random vote without counting up the votes first.

RachMarie · Post Post #78 (isolation #15) » Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:12 am

Nacho I know you are a good enough player not to jump on someone just cause they are suspecting you of being scum, so what gives with the CES vote? Please share with us.

Josh you need to like get in the game a bit, either that or you are not familiar with CES's game play--duh he was joking

For now will see where CES takes us. I have seen him name the scum team early on before and been right. So Josh are you scum and trying to sidetrack us?

VOTE: Josh

RachMarie · Post Post #80 (isolation #16) » Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:48 am

Because I have played many times with Nacho, I will over time have a better chance of pegging him, while I do not really know Josh so going with CES on that. I think if CES turns out to be wrong on the scum team, the consequences for Town are less disastrous mislynching Josh than mislynching Nacho.

RachMarie · Post Post #81 (isolation #17) » Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:49 am

Does not mean I won't push on Nacho to get more from him though...

RachMarie · Post Post #83 (isolation #18) » Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:21 pm

hmmm let me check I think so.

RachMarie · Post Post #84 (isolation #19) » Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:56 pm

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=23096 Mafia in LaLa Land

Replaced in and bussed the heck out of me, got me lynched.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=22546 Newbie 1255

The rest of the games he and I have been in, he has been town.

RachMarie · Post Post #104 (isolation #20) » Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:22 pm

CES why Nacho over Josh, since you think they are both scum?

RachMarie · Post Post #109 (isolation #21) » Wed Feb 20, 2013 3:25 pm

Someone turn on the AC, with all the petting and feeling up going on around here it is getting rather warm....

RachMarie · Post Post #114 (isolation #22) » Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:36 pm

FT I am not defending Nacho, I do not give him a free pass here. However given more time I can peg Nacho's alignment better. While Josh definitely seems scummy. CES is a very good player look at this game http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=21878 Bonus you get to see me playing as Town and Tiece as Town as well.

RachMarie · Post Post #115 (isolation #23) » Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:43 pm

D and C if you want some links to some of my Town/Scum games I would be happy to provide.

RachMarie · Post Post #117 (isolation #24) » Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:57 pm

RachMarie · Post Post #121 (isolation #25) » Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:54 am

Back on the computer so will provide links now...

RachMarie · Post Post #122 (isolation #26) » Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:47 am

Scum

N 1318 (Also the IC in this one and first time ever as scum as the IC)

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=24980

Micro 28 (Scum PR) http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=23387 (Bonus Nacho as Town)

Mafia in LaLa Land (Scum PR) http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=23096

Open 409 Less Pressure http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=22156

N 1225 http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=21542

Open 397 http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=21865

N 1239 (bonus Town Nacho)
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=21934

Town

RachMarie · Post Post #126 (isolation #27) » Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:30 pm

Get well soon Sotty, I hope its not the bug I have been fighting with the past couple of weeks

RachMarie · Post Post #130 (isolation #28) » Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:43 pm

LOL Tierce

Give me a bit and I will do more game content. Pinky Promise.

RachMarie · Post Post #148 (isolation #29) » Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:01 am

I don't think FT is scum I think he is misguided. I need to look at scum games of his though. The fact of the matter is FT, not everyone who suspects you is scum, and not everyone who says you are town is town.

It is something I learned well in my first game N 1206. Dude (Meta) went way beyond wking me to making me unlynchable. It cost us the game because I made the mistake of voting for Elmo instead. My biggest mistake in that game though was not protecting Uber every night he was the Cop. And I was the Doc....

RachMarie · Post Post #192 (isolation #30) » Sun Feb 24, 2013 9:03 am

Sotty

I am no more scum in this game than I was in Newbie 1206...

Meanwhile, back to the game....

I believe Nacho is V/LA atm CES how about we go for Josh here instead. Actually I know he is, Micro 120 just finished and he stated the rest will have to wait til after he is done with V/LA And I do not like lynching someone when they do not have a chance to speak for themselves.

Josh seriously no vote? I will grant I have not provided a lot of content, but you basically pulled a self meta of I play like NS and that is that... Need more from you. Seriously dude you were aware I am NS's gf and well aware of his playstyle?

CES I have played with Nachoscum and been his scum bud before. Not seen Sotty scum though would have to look through games. She was town when we played together and mod in a couple of the games I have played in. Oddly enough in the game we played she immediately thought I was scum and helped get me lynched. Have to double check that game to see if I was VT or Doc. The IC DY was scum and he really pushed my lynch which seemed odd to me at the time I was getting a gut read of scum, but usually when the IC pushes my lynch on D 1 they are Town it was odd.

RachMarie · Post Post #193 (isolation #31) » Sun Feb 24, 2013 9:03 am

Who is Jabberwocky BTW?

RachMarie · Post Post #194 (isolation #32) » Sun Feb 24, 2013 9:05 am

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=22202 Newbie 1246 I replaced in for Gen Wolf, partly because I wanted to play with Sotty. I was VT in that game.

RachMarie · Post Post #196 (isolation #33) » Sun Feb 24, 2013 9:27 am

ahh ok thanks

wow more than one line, I am honored.

RachMarie · Post Post #198 (isolation #34) » Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:13 am

Link I gotta see this

RachMarie · Post Post #204 (isolation #35) » Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:52 am

@ Sotty

Answering CES.

@ Sixty

Fair point time to do ISO research and meta research and provide some more solid reads.

RachMarie · Post Post #223 (isolation #36) » Mon Feb 25, 2013 9:08 am

Wait a minute here CES you want to lynch someone who is V/LA and can't answer for himself?

RachMarie · Post Post #224 (isolation #37) » Mon Feb 25, 2013 9:11 am

Speaking of Nacho, one of the things that sticks out in my mind plus in research is he tends to hard bus his scum buddy One of the reasons I would like to wait til he can speak is to see if he does that. Would help us get both of the scum in one swoop.

The other reason is I do not feel comfortable with lynching someone who is V/LA

RachMarie · Post Post #228 (isolation #38) » Mon Feb 25, 2013 9:22 am

CES I spent quite some time looking for you as scum, was hard to find very many games. One thing though that stuck out in my mind was in the couple of games I did find, you actually spoke more than you do as town. I know it is not much, but it reinforces my town read on you.

RachMarie · Post Post #230 (isolation #39) » Mon Feb 25, 2013 9:38 am

Most of my experience is with the Tierce head of Sicty. Calling herself obvtown is definitely something she has done as town. If you ISO the link I gave you on N 1236, you will see her making several references as being obvtown and assuming she would be NKed. The fact they have pushed on me to provide more content, while seeing me as town, further reinforced my town read on them. They are not giving me a free pass here. (Something that FT missed in his rant).

FT is probably Town too. He seems to show a bit of paranoia which makes more sense from a town PoV than a scum one. He needs to stop reacting so emotionally though and work on solidifying his reads more. Not everyone who believes you are Town is your friend and not everyone who questions you is your enemy. If you are Town, and I do have a weak town read on you, I am not your enemy.

Pedit and once again the Tierce head shows she is Town.

RachMarie · Post Post #232 (isolation #40) » Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:03 am

Moving onto D and C.

Your walls are not that bad at all and yes I read them, I did far worse walls in my first game, until I got totally reamed for it by Uber. (Don't worry Sotty I will not do walls like that again). A few points that stick out in my mind when reading your ISO

1. Your willingness to defer to the other hydra for a read on you. Town points for that. I would think scum would not be as willing to say something like that. One because there is a risk of getting lynched for it, and if it is their scum bud could get them both lynched.

2. The confusion on reads definitely sounds more like genuine confusion especially with the amount of effort and time in trying to sort them out. More Town points.

3. The fact that you actually read the links and are trying to meta me is impressive, and I just can't see scum messing with that. They would have focused on a few of the scum games and picked points from them that seemed to match my play here to prove I was scum. Instead it was clear that you two were reading from a balanced PoV trying to genuinely figure me out. More Town points.

RachMarie · Post Post #241 (isolation #41) » Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:06 pm

FT just went up a bit on his town read that last post is definitely totes Town.

Hold your horses Sotty I am getting there. Still have a few more ISOs to do.

RachMarie · Post Post #242 (isolation #42) » Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:14 pm

Moving along to Sotty. Weaker Town read, partly because there is not much here due to her being sick (know the feeling well I have been sick for about 2 weeks now). But what is here seems to lay out her thought processes in a clear way to the rest of the players, and that seems more likely to be town that scum.

Leaning Town but needs to post more.