Micro 134 (F11) (Game Over!)

[Sixty]

The other puppyhalf told me not to look obvTown. Come on, really. You can't leash the puppy. u._.u

Step #1: Lynch scum.

VOTE: Cogito Ergo Sum

[Sixty]

Vote: Sixty

So Tierce, on a scale from 1 to 10, how afraid are you of me right now?

(It's ok to be scared, you know.)

Not at all. ^_^ I was the first one to read the role PM and went all mad glee on AIM at the other half. I don't think I'm coming down from that feeling any time soon.

[Sixty]

Dear Empire, he of obvTown,
Why are you voting us?

[Sixty]

Couldn't care less about CES's vote, but I want Empire to explain his.

Rach, Dazed and Confused are Empire and mine, we are Vi and Tierce. It's disclosed on the player list on the first post, too.

[Sixty]

Dear Empire, he of obvTown,
Why are you voting us?

Because I take sadistic pleasure in undermining your confidence when you're scum.

I always put my random vote on the player I think would be most likely to give an alignment indicative response when wagoned. Plus Mina's a troll and thought it'd be funny.

About how long did it take you to plan out your response to my vote? (You had to have known it was coming, no?)

We're Town--I expect you to be able to tell eventually, so no, I didn't really 'plan' for it or see it coming. For my part, I expected you to lurk through the first few pages, that's why I didn't bother voting you myself. (My other default vote is Vi, and, er...)

If you two were scum, Mina would be 'busy', you would lurk

the whole game

the first few days. If Town, you like to lurk the first five pages anyway, so it wouldn't be much of a revealing vote and I put the idea aside. Then you went and posted already, which kind of threw a wrench into things. I'd like to think you are Town, but I'll wait and see if you go into Regfanish mode.
Anyway.
Is CES Town?

[Sixty]

Actually, let's give you something that you might have to brain about a bit more, Empire. Is Rach Town?

[Sixty]

Yes, jason, let's put an hydra of two good players (whom you have seen as Town before) at L-1 in a game with Josh Lyman, because that's a really bright idea.

Is CES Town?

Erm, you know as well as I do that I can't read CES for shit. One of the first things I asked Mina during pre-game was whether she could read CES with any sort of confidence and she basically said "no" but there were some things to look out for. Given that she's hydra'd with the guy as town more than once and they've played a lot more together than we have, I'm pretty much deferring to her on CES.

And here I hoped we could quicklynch him again for giggles. Stop being logical and boring, you'll make the other puppyhalf sad.

Actually, let's give you something that you might have to brain about a bit more, Empire. Is Rach Town?

Overall, tonally she comes off a bit forced but I remember reading some of the games she was in and I think she's like that as both alignments. First impression of Rach's #12 was that it seemed like hollow posturing about something easy but #20 seems ok in that I don't think she would suddenly take the whole "sucking up to CES" angle as scum (she presumably knows CES is sharp as town too, no?). Ask me again in a few pages though because it's still page 1 and I don't have much confidence in anything right now.

Now

that

's more like it. Yes, her writing can come across forced as Town, and from what I skimmed of one or two of her scum games, it's more a playstyle thing than anything else. And yes, Rach knows CES as Town from a newbie game and Author Mafia, at least, where he was on the ball on both instances. (Fake edit: what the lady said.)

Well, except one thing: would you believe me if I townread you after your second post?

Not quite sure what you mean here. Are you saying you Townread me (hi! You really should!) and this is mostly a rhetorical throwaway comment, or are you

actually

asking if I should believe you Townread us at that point?


Rach--why no input on the two hydras?

[Sixty]

Oh, something else--Empire, do you think #20 can be scum-scum?

[Sixty]

Why would Rach have input on the hydras beyond "oh there are two hydras in the game, fancy that?"

Not on the hydras, but the slots. She is commenting on votes, but did not comment on how she feels about our slot, for example, and hasn't mentioned the other hydra yet.

Not quite sure what you mean here. Are you saying you Townread me (hi! You really should!) and this is mostly a rhetorical throwaway comment, or are you

actually

asking if I should believe you Townread us at that point?

A bit of both, but primarily the latter.

If you know me at all, you know that I am pretty much always convinced I'm obvTown as Town, but I have little idea what makes me so (even with your megapost). And I've seen you call out alignments with 66%+ accuracy on pages 1 and 2, so it wouldn't surprise me if you had seen the obvious by then.

Oh, something else--Empire, do you think #20 can be scum-scum?

@Tierce: I...was literally just considering that possibility and I guess? But if scum have pre-game chat (and I think that's the case or at least it was during the two completed games I had as scum), wouldn't CES have the foresight to coach her against that kind of distancing given her attitude when signing up for the game?

I feel like I'm heading way too far into tinfoil theory and it's only fucking page 2.

It was a legitimate y/n question, not a leading one. I think Post 20 means they are not scum together. That beginning was way too natural for someone who has some awkwardish writing--I don't think she would buddy up to her own scumbuddy in those conditions.

@Rach: Tierce/Games and Statistics and Vi/Games and Statistics.

I'm waiting for the next sign of the Apocalypse right now. Empire appears to be the same alignment we are and

Town

. Obviously this means there is something very wrong with the universe and my luck is about to run out

somehow

.


What the bloody hell, jason? How did you go through the entirety of Dresden Files Mafia without realizing it was Vi + Tierce? We weren't exactly

shy

about the fact that there were two different people behind the puppy. Shape it up.

[Sixty]

Why would Rach have input on the hydras beyond "oh there are two hydras in the game, fancy that?"

Not on the hydras, but the slots. She is commenting on votes, but did not comment on how she feels about our slot, for example, and hasn't mentioned the other hydra yet.

This was written before #33 and I forgot to add a fake-edit that she's apparently working on etc. Carry on.

[Sixty]

That would be a ballsy move for ScumJason, lets see what he comes back with. Right now, I'm not buying it.

My main concern is that that could be exactly what he's going for -- the L-1 vote and call for quickhammer in #23 feels a little too over-the-top and #36 is weird in that he doesn't outline whatever issue it is he wants us to "weigh in" on before he outs his reasons.

That was partially my concern too. Basically, the moment had passed, people had been swinging from one wagon to another, so:
- If it was about the votes on our slot, the momentum was gone and jason could out his reasons.
- If he wanted a hammer on page 1 as Town, he's an idiot--there would be no useful reactions for future Days, virtually no interactions, and we would be one Day/Night cycle into the game with dead Town and no information.
- If he was scum wanting a quickhammer on competent Town, can hardly blame him, see reasons above.
- If he was trying to play scummy

on purpose

to attract votes, that is an inane move.

So... what was the reasoning? Did he think scum was stupid enough to hammer us and want to reap the Towncred Tomorrow? No scum would do it, because scum know we are Town and there is no Towncred to reap from our mislynch.

tl;dr I don't understand what kind of reasoning jason can have for that L-1 vote and

then

not explaining it when the momentum is already gone and the real-time reactions to

whatever "issue" it is

have gone poof.

[Sixty]

uo.ou

(If we could put sparkles in those puppy eyes, we would. Promise.)

Unvote: Cogito Ergo Sum
Vote: Josh Lyman

(L-4)

[Sixty]

I'm untouchable! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! FREEDOM! *goes streaking through the thread*

Welcome to every Town game of, at least, puppyhalf #7.

[Sixty]

Oh, also, Mina, stop obvTowning. That's my shtick.

...Stick? throw it throw it throw it oh boy oh boy a stick

[Sixty]

Nacho, you're no fun. What's the point of hydraing with Empire if I have to be obvtown myself? Are you telling me I have to work, too? See for example, right now, I'm posting nothing but a useless post dodge and no relevant opinions other than a throwaway question in response to what looks like an unremarkable post. If I was hydraing with CES, we'd be the biggest wagon by the time I came home from work. But it doesn't matter, because thanks to the power of Empire, I'm untouchable! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! FREEDOM! *goes streaking through the thread*

If I had to depend on Empire's towniness in order to get a read on this slot, then I'd actually have to read his walls.

Vote: Cogito Ergo Sum

^scum, a rainy day when the puppy is not allowed outside, loud fireworks, a flea, the doctorvet, etc. Grr.

[Sixty]

Excuse me for a moment. I need to reach across the entire playerlist and half an hydra so I can sob on Empire's shoulder. Whyyy, etc.


You seem to be having a lot of fun with random comments that have nothing to do with the game instead of looking for scum, Josh. CES is voting Nacho, that seems to be his preferred lynch for today. It would only take you a moment to spot this in his posts. So why the useless question and why are you dwelling on an answer that was an obvious joke? You have played Mafia before, the concept of the game and the concept of sarcasm can hardly be new to you.

[Sixty]

Ball!

Nacho I know you are a good enough player not to jump on someone just cause they are suspecting you of being scum, so what gives with the CES vote? Please share with us.

Josh you need to like get in the game a bit, either that or you are not familiar with CES's game play--duh he was joking


For now will see where CES takes us. I have seen him name the scum team early on before and been right. So Josh are you scum and trying to sidetrack us?

VOTE: Josh

Why Josh over Nacho?

[Sixty]

I find it hilarious that I probably wouldn't be this confident in Sixty's alignment if you removed all posts or comments from Tierce bashing us over the head with "Omigod I'm town I'm town I'm TOWN and did I mention how happy I am that I got a town role PM as well as how obvious this fact will be to everyone within five minutes? " In theory, you'd think it's a bad idea to just take someone's word for it; in

practice

, on the other hand...

It's no secret that
1) I hate playing scum
2) I'm bad at it
3) Being scum in an hydra is

awful

4) I would be caught as scum within the first 2-3 pages with this playerlist.

So yes, the puppy is deliriously happy at how things turned out. Plus, you two are most likely Town (besides the fact that Empire was obvTowning, your Post 65 was a lot of TownMina), we have a lot of time, and that means we should be able to make

something

out of this game.

The Josh Lyman comment wasn't so much that he "likes" to quickhammer, but that his level of play leaves quite a bit to be desired and that I wouldn't be surprised if he took it upon himself to quickhammer on page 2 if he is not too busy lurking. Just go through a few of his games (there's never a lot to read) and you'll understand my lamentations in Empire's general direction.

[Sixty]

Hint: alternate possibilities for the name of this hydra were "The Wall" and "Ramble On".

Both of those are better names by the bye. I'd've gone for Death and Taxes myself.

We'd like to point out that "Mina Colada" was also suggested.

[Sixty]

(P.S.: You feel vaguely like lurker-scum. Is this true?)

No. Feel underneath my rough exterior and you can feel the real me.

Nacho I know you are a good enough player not to jump on someone just cause they are suspecting you of being scum, so what gives with the CES vote? Please share with us.

Feeling.

We believe we're obligated to say that if you have time to feel Nacho up, you should be petting the puppy. Our fur is silky-soft under your hands.

[Sixty]

You can get a puppy anywhere. It's a very rare occasion that allows you to feel up a religious conservative without consequence.

Normally petting puppies comes with a much smaller chance of lifelong emotional trauma or screen time on CNN.

[Sixty]

Are people voting for them basically just because CES is saying they are scum? How does that work?

CES is bringing home the bacon. :9

On the other paw, maybe we're barking up the wrong tree. The person who made post 111 looks like a giant hambone. uo.ou

[Sixty]

Sixty, are we reading the same 111? That post pretty much nullified my entire scumread (disclaimer: this was solely a Mina scumread) on FourTrouble.

This may be premature, but right now, I think both scum lie among {Nacho, Josh, Sotty, jason} and we're on the verge of an easy win.

(...and...now that I just posted that, I've jinxed it, and it'll turn out that the Mafia are CES and Sixty.)

The other puppyhalf is off for the evening and I'm about to go to sleep, but

my

main point is that 111 boils to a whole lot of nothing. Especially the part in which he asks you two why you are asking him for reads and how that would let you learn more about his alignment. I... what? Isn't that kind of an essential part of Mafia? Whether your reasoning makes sense from a Town perspective or not? So why does he say that he doesn't understand how giving reads will help you figure him out? It's defensiveness and stalling at a point in which Town would either go "nah, I don't feel like explaining my reads"

or

give them outright.

It's a lot of not being sure, of feeling the waters as to how others think the lynch might go. Not enough taking a stance, and for a person who went all RIGHTEOUS RAGE against RachMarie's initial statement, it's contrasting sharply with the apparent lack of interest in figuring the game out.

However, 111 has the nice touch of, if one of CES/FourTrouble is scum, the other is Town--look at that third paragraph, FourTrouble is bringing "CES is going on a lurkerhunt" to light, and he would never make such a claim in that format against a buddy.

[Sixty]

Hey Rach, what about some game content? Links are fine and good, but they are not game-relevant, and you've been doing precisely nothing for half your posts now.

Woof.

[Sixty]

Tone and gut is all I got. I just don't see scum arguing with Rach the way you did.

Actually

... This is an instance in which his indignation had

nothing

to do with his alignment, just that he thought he was being misrepresented. Even scum can get angry if they think they are being portrayed in a way they do not deserve, so we don't see that RachMarie/FourTrouble interaction pointing to FourTrouble-Town in any manner. It's a person-matter, not an alignment-matter.

[Sixty]

Sixty, I was pretty

explicit

implicit

about the fact that I'm unsure about either of CES/Josh/Nacho

/Sotty7/jasonT/D&C

.

Also, this puppy isn't really following a lot of post 131. There wasn't much direction to a lot of that post.

[Sixty]

Sixty, I was pretty

explicit

implicit

about the fact that I'm unsure about either of CES/Josh/Nacho

/Sotty7/jasonT/D&C

.

Also, this puppy isn't really following a lot of post 131. There wasn't much direction to a lot of that post.

That all seems fine this early in the game though?

Not really.

[Sixty]

Pretty sure that both Nacho and Sotty are town.

Why is Sotty Town?



Nacho's CES meta is accurate, if nothing else. Empire, thoughts?

[Sixty]

(Mina, I don't want this to look like I'm ignoring you, especially since I think you are more experienced with anything CES has resembling to "openness" than either Empire or I, but the two of us have discussed his meta and this is me seeing whether Nacho's read is legitimate--which doesn't necessarily make Nacho Town, but it'd at least help read CES.)

[Sixty]

Sixty, can you answer our question in #150 please? Also how did you guys get such a strong townread on our slot so early? I know I'm super easy to read but uhh yeah.

We're still wrapping our minds around both of them. They haven't exactly been prolific with commentary, and we would rather hold our

paws

cards close to the chest on both of them until they provide something that might lead more in one way or another.

As for you--Post 8 and Post 11 are a kind of bravado that you probably wouldn't do in that manner in a game with me and Tammy. You wouldn't act in such a way unless you were capable of backing that up. It's a bit of the Town arrogance we both have. There is also Mina's Post 65 (I even know the post number by heart, I memorize the strangest details), and later on other posts. Mina is rather paranoid that she might slip as scum, there is no way she would let that many typos go unchecked as your posts have had. What is more, she has this bit:

Haven't communicated with Empire since this game started, but it's probably a bad sign that the players I thought were the only possible mislynches when the player are all suspects of mine to some degree.

This is amazing, because it mirrors one of my fears in this game. Pre-game, it was visible that this playerlist has excellent players and then two or three players that are the designated mislynches. And I was feeling

exactly the same thing

as Mina: only the weaker players were standing out as scummyish (and frankly I'm washing my hands of Nacho and letting the other head deal with that can of devilish details). The fact that she pointed it out reads much more like Town paranoia of the stronger players than of Mina-scum trying to hide her tracks in plain sight.


I was asking you about CES's meta, not reading him. The "two groups for Town games" thing that Nacho wrote seems to hark back to CES's replace-in behavior (or later tackling of the game). It seems like our main problem in Sherlock was that we did not differentiate between these two Town metas for him.

[Sixty]

Pretty sure that both Nacho and Sotty are town.

Elaborate.

Sotty is a gut read; she just looks town. Can't really articulate why.

Nacho is just being his usual town self. Surely you can see that, no?

Not enough. Please explain these reads without just making more vague statements.

[Sixty]

Hai Sottsville. You wanted a brief change in puppyhalves.

Well we've got good news for you! The other puppyhalf has been more strongly proposing FourTrouble/Sotty! Thank you for making that post and

asking

for this one. ^____^

Unvote: Josh Lyman
Vote: Sotty7

(L-4)

Come back when you explain your Town reads, figure out how to read a slot that has dumped an ocean of obvTown on this thread, and basically stop posting like scum.

Also, we can't stop staring at your avvy because you're holding a ball. uo.ou

[Sixty]

Also also, this head didn't see you having any problem with the Town obnoxiousness coming from it in Sherlockafia.

Also also also, this head is increasingly curious as to why you seem to find it troublesome that the head who has

more

problems faking it as scum is the one who is posting prolifically.


And you just accused us of OMGUS. I need the other head online so we can share the bowl.

...well then. There is such a thing as an alt/hydra slip, but posting from an hydra that I'm not even playing in at the moment is a new one. Apologies.

[Sixty]

......

This is getting ridiculous. I'm so sorry, Zach.

So a brief skim of Sherlock I see no "phew I'm so happy I'm town" "look at me obvtowning in this thread" etc.

I see a lot of good scum hunting and reasoning with no actual reference to yourself. Am I missing it? It is also somewhat confusing considering this is a hydra of you and Empire and neither of you sigg'ed and now you're both in this game under different hydras.

But yeah, pinpoint if I am missing something obvious, but the play here compared to there is a lot more forced and fake imo.

Spoiler: Pink elephant of obnoxiousness in the room.

Oh god CES stop. You're just embarrassing yourself now. You cannot possible look at my activity and the depth of Empire's reads and think we are scum. You simply can't.

(And look at you bringing up activity as reasoning during the holidays, really. Especially when the Lurker Scum Queen keeps posting for both of us and giving Empire's own input, which means he's clearly following the game.)

My goodness, we didn't put in enough effort to lynch Ludi--no, seriously, stop being an embarrassment to your scumteam.


Empire, go through the first MLP Rainbowdash game when you go through meta. Ludi is scum there, as was CES (and me). The link to the cache download is in Theme Park. Ludi defended me pretty hard from a D1 flash wagon, and CES replaced in later. You may also want to check the neighbor and scum QTs. I'll be on AIM later.

Anytime you want to go through a Town hydra game of mine where I am not being ridiculously flippant about getting my scum reads lynched, CES. Any time. Perhaps it has to do with pointing at obvscum and cackling like a madwoman, or with making detours through Photoshop to illustrate my thoughts, or with having a blast with partners I enjoy and being obvTown.

Dinner, etc.

At the risk of putting words in her mouth, I'm pretty sure she was referring to #136 where you appeal to me solely and not to Tierce or both of us.

If you look at the post I was responding to, there's no way she wasn't bringing #141 into it.

I was referring to both 136 and 141, which are both pretty damn awful posts. The first is an appeal to Empire, the second has absolutely no reasoning that would make Empire or I likely to move over, so it makes the whole appeal to him very flimsy and showing lack of interest in getting d3x lynched.

We're very very curious as to how CES thinks

General suckiness of the reads

in regards to either of us. No one with a minimal knowledge of Empire's meta (which CES proclaims to have when he brings up 'inactivity' and yet fails to spot the giant elephant called "V/LA" and the blue whale called "it's clear Tierce has had contact with him and their reads have been shared so far") would look at 102 and call us scum.

We are very okay with the explanations of reads and votes we have given and not given so far, thank you muchly. Keep posting like scum, it's fun to watch.

[Sixty]

Now how about you pretend for one second that you're a slot that is hard to read

That would be awfully dull. /)u^.^u/)

tell me all about your scum read of Four so I can see where you are coming from?

We've already done this, at least in part. Puppy ISO is your friend.

[Sixty]

Pretty sure that both Nacho and Sotty are town.

Elaborate.

Sotty is a gut read; she just looks town. Can't really articulate why.

Nacho is just being his usual town self. Surely you can see that, no?

Not enough. Please explain these reads without just making more vague statements.

Okay, I really hope you aren't asking me to elaborate on a gut read; I've already said I can't articulate why (although in ensuing posts, her tenacity in attacking and dismembering

you

is a good towntell, so).

How would you like me to establish that Nacho is playing to his town meta? Do you want tons of other-game quotes? I'm not doing that, sorry. If you've not played with Nacho before, well then, you can do the meta research as well as I can.

I think CES is being town; I have no experience with him, though.

Yes, I am asking you to elaborate on a gut read. There is always an explanation for gut, but you are giving absolutely nothing to support it. That is not going to fly. I want an explanation for that read as of post 157, and I want tons of other-game quotes. As of now, you are doing lots of vague waving at

nothing concrete

, and there is no way I or anyone can figure out the legitimacy (or not) of your reads if you refuse to provide reasoning when asked, repeatedly, by multiple people.

You are calling three strong players Town without providing an inch of reasoning, aren't voting for some ungodly reason, and never even mentioned your original scumread after your first post. You said you would reread and vote FOUR DAYS AGO. Put together, all of this reeks of scum trying to fly under the radar and go where the wind blows.

[Sixty]

I once wrote a wall in a Newbie-set-up-outside-the-Newbie-queue-game. *-*

Spoiler: I believe you mean this instead.

And no, Rach, you don't have to see anything, you have to provide some sort of decent commentary on the game instead of answering questions posed to others. :/ The only thing actually worth mentioning in Post 192 is the Josh section, everything else has very little game relevance. Is there nothing else you care to comment on? Please stop focusing on irrelevant stuff. I like joking around as much as the next person, but I'm trying to produce content at the same time.

[Sixty]

-Sixty, I know you essentially said, "Read my posts!" when Sotty asked about your FT read. But why didn't you react to our defence of FT? You didn't even go, "Sorry, but I think you're wrong because X," just ignored them and continued attacking FourTrouble.

We think you're wrong, we've expressed as much and why, and repeating that won't help anything.

File this post under: "Have you seen any of his other posts for that matter because they aren't very strong either"

[Sixty]

Speaking of Nacho, one of the things that sticks out in my mind plus in research is he tends to hard bus his scum buddy One of the reasons I would like to wait til he can speak is to see if he does that. Would help us get both of the scum in one swoop.

Way to spoil your hand before you even play it!

FourTrouble, yes, we are totally defending Rach, you got us. The slot that is accusing RachMarie of not producing any sort of verifiable content that pertains to the game is the slot that is defending her. Though yes, the RachMarie votes from you and Sotty came into account when voting either of you, but not because you are voting her, but because the votes are

bad

. Your reads in particular amount to "Town: people I agree with; scum: people I don't understand/don't agree with". That's not scumhunting, that's going where the flow leads you. You don't have to AGREE with someone, you have to see if it makes sense coming from Town with

their

point of view, their experiences and their situation. The fact that you are not doing this makes your reads exceedingly superficial, and leads to stuff like "Sixty is defending RachMarie!" instead of looking at the reasoning we have for each vote and read.

[Sixty]

By the way, Rach, that Nacho comment is STILL not content. Again. Whatever your alignment, I'll be quite disappointed if this game turns out to be a repeat of the newbie game I modded where you were an IC. Shape it up. You don't need to go on mega tours of meta research, but you have to provide content that is pertinent to this game instead of just coasting with promises of 'stuff' to come.

[Sixty]

The -ty head will be V/LA until March 3.

[Sixty]

Six half taking over.

We were caught up in the heat of the moment when we voted Sotty. Let's correct that.

Unvote: Sotty7
Vote: FourTrouble

(L-4)

1) "Why are you picking on me being scummy when Rach is doing it too but

worse

?"
2) All reads on other players are based on whether he would think it himself (216). It's ineffective at best and lazy at worst.
3) "After reading I think that the scum team is in over half the other players."
4) Overall weak posts down the line.

---

Hay Empire. /)
Since we're Town and everything, would you like to work together on cutting this game apart?

[Sixty]

Do you really think it's credible that FT went, "I'm lazy scum, so it's too much work to make up fake reasons to suspect people! I'll save time by...making up fake opinions, and then extrapolating my other fake reads based on how closely these players match my set of fake opinions"?

"These people are thinking like I would as Town, so yeah, let's call them Town."

Bad dog! No walk for you today!

How we look: "I'm just going to mope in the corner and hope that I don't die of neglect before someone comes by with a treat."
What we're thinking: "Whatever."

Unvote: FourTrouble
Vote: Nachomamma8

(L-2)

[Sixty]

"These people are thinking like I would as Town, so yeah, let's call them Town."

That's a fairly common townie line of thought, no?

It's a fairly common crutch for scum who are trying to figure out who seems most organic to call Town or not.

(This puppyhalf also doubts it works as Town.)

[Sixty]

D&C - Are you sure Nacho is scum?

[Sixty]

*puppyhop*
*bounce bounce caper*

Unvote: Nachomamma8
Vote: Whiskers

(L-2)

[Sixty]

Of note: the -ty half of the adorable puppy hydra (it's really a pity that Orthros isn't cute) supports this Whiskers wagon. /)

Also, ball!

[Sixty]

Thanks for changing CES, it is too early for a lynch, and I have played with FT before it would not surprise me if he came in and hammered without paying attention. I don't know Josh, but I gather from what was said that he too tends to derp.

In this post:
"FT is reckless and absent-minded and would probably quickhammer on page 2, the stupid cunt."

Also sucking up to CES. If I decide not to come back to this point, you can ignore it, it's just here so I don't forget it.

Even better:

Cause I have seen it happen.

Besides I was not saying you are scum. you seem awfully defensive. I still have yet to determine who is scum and who is not.

In this post:
"Whoa, you were actually reading the horrible thing I said and called me out on it. Get off me, before someone notices you're right!"

Is it just how I read it?

...This is almost embarrassing. I get the impression this is how

I

play as scum and why it is that horribly obvious when I'm not Town. There is no motivation-seeking in this post, just pointed out the Bad Bad Things That RachMarie Has Done In This Game, You Guys.

[Sixty]

No need to be mean, Tierce.

I think my sadistic tendencies are rubbing off on her.

Vice versa, if anything. Wolf puppy can have feral tendencies.

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