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So... How do I play mafia again? (Like I knew how before, right Seanald?)
So first things first:
Majiffy is playing Majiffy-ish. This is how he plays, doesn't give a fuck ever, just wants people to bus him. As far as I seen, that makes him null/town. I do agree with RM (WIFOM aside) because Majiffy can be a very good asset if he is town. Majiffy, who is your top scumread and why should I bus you?
Fun Fact: Seanald is 95.2% scum in games that I play with him.
But in all seriousness, I do say I have a scummy read on him based on his current play, but that is probably because I rarely play with him as town. I would not mind lynching him, as randomness and random defense ("if you vote me your gay") make him seem scummy to me.
Lincolm claimed Patriots was a town role. Should be interesting to say the least (Because I am a Pats fan). Bickering with Seanald is interesting, but nullish.
Fuz is rather interesting for calling out Packers as a scum role, causing people to reveal some claims (Patriots), but he states later that he hates the Packers, so you must definitely be a NFC North fan? Vikings? Bears?
MP5 is the worst gun in MW1, but anyways. I like the Seanald vote, but I also feel off about the football fluff in there, could be nothing but still. Wouldn't mind joining him on a Seanald lynch.
WIFOM aside, RM has a great idea in keeping Majiffy alive. It is true and it does work out. (THE FLOWCHART!) RM, please tell me your feelings on Seanald?
Not getting much vibes from JMO, town or scum. Extensive search necessary.
Grizzle could go either way, my feelings could sway depending on Seanald's flip. Something is probably up.
TL;DR:
The scumteam (IMO) is somewhere within (Seanald, Grizzle, Lincolm, Fuz)
Possible Townines are (Majiffy, Fuz, RM, MP5, Grizzle)
Give me some more info guys. Not to mention we have Deadline in 5 days.- Salamence20
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I think Jiff is a type of Peanut butter wrote:I think the word you're looking for is "sheep".
Yes, my bad.
Majiffy wrote:Also,
1) Stop buddying me
2) You can place your vote on either jmo or Seanald.
1) This ain't buddying.
Majiffy, that was a non-bias report of your play based on what I've seen. Are you telling me you don't boast about how amazing you are as town? That is why you made that flowchart. I was in the game that you created that flowchart. Do you think RM was buddying? Because I pretty much said everything she said about you.
2)
I don't disagree with this.
Seanald wrote:does anyone have any opinions on my flash wagon, and how it is likely contains the scum team?
Been there, done that. It doesn't surprise me that you are being wagoned, based on your current play. Happened to me all the time.
Seanald wrote:sala's post was just all a primer to justify hammering me without the rest of you viewing it as a scummy action.
also why do you hate me so much sala? what gives.
When did I say to hammer you? I am not voting you. Secondly, when did I mention hate anyways? I figured you hated me for Kingdom Hearts. I don't hate you. But keep the AtE out of here. Nothing Personal.
Seanald wrote:and fuck it, Ima a 1-shot bullet proof 1-shot bodyguard.
basically a doctor but in more words and can do slighty different things.
Interesting claim, Sean.
You know, I can't remember where, but I could of swore bullet-proof bodyguard was somekind of mafia role. I don't remember the name, but I vaguely remember seeing this somewhere. I can't remember. Could someone jog my memory if possible?
JMO wrote:How? Those are legit roles, would you agree?
That does not equal conf-role. This is scummy because you are trying to defend Seanald.
I have decided to go with a Seanald or a JMO lynch today. Leaning towards Seanald, but a JMO scum lynch almost confirms (READ: NOT CONF-SCUM, BUT HEAVILY LEANING) Sean-Scum. Discuss.- Salamence20
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Oh that's it! Dedicated bodyguard! That was the mafia role I was thinking about. So I will have to think about that bodyguard claim.
jmo16mla wrote:Why are you giving cases without voting?
Because:
1. I wanted to find out what role I was thinking of.
2. The old Salamence would of voted by now. The new Salamence is still thinking. Plus we still have 5 days worth of information to dig up.- Salamence20
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Majiffy wrote:↑ Salamence20 wrote:Majiffy, that was a non-bias report of your play based on what I've seen. Are you telling me you don't boast about how amazing you are as town? That is why you made that flowchart. I was in the game that you created that flowchart. Do you think RM was buddying? Because I pretty much said everything she said about you.
Yeah, but RM actually has reasons to kiss my ass, after some recent games. Why areyousucking up to me?
This isn't sucking up. You are expierenced at mafia. I stated that I knew you are good at mafia.
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I never said I was going to sheep you. I just know you want people to sheep you regardless of alignment. I asked who you want people to sheep because just to get an idea of who are your reads at the moment.- Salamence20
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Ugh.
Im not into lynching Seanald more I think about it honestly.
Majiffy wrote:No but it applies as "I would like to sheep you and am looking to lay all the burden of my scummy sheeping behavior onto you by saying 'well he gave good reasons!'".
If you honestly think that I could come up with a plan like that, not to mention it working, that is poor thinking.
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(Except, @Sala what has already made you consider a Rondar wagon? (P-Edit, Maj asked it, but I'd like you to reiterate if possible) I can't recall you being to keen on Lincolm)
Rondar, this was my second post.
Salamence20 wrote:The scumteam (IMO) is somewhere within (Seanald, Grizzle, Lincolm, Fuz)
Possible Townines are (Majiffy, Fuz, RM, MP5, Grizzle)
Seanald (Possibly, depending on deadline) gets an extra day due to his claim.
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↑ jmo16mla wrote:↑ jmo16mla wrote:↑ Salamence20 wrote:Rondar wagon?
The guy has posted 10> times. What post that he made justifies a wagon on him?
Also, why are you asking Majiffy? He was scum in my last game I played with him and everyone just about hoped on his junk. Scum won easy. Jiff have you played with Salamence before?
You didn't answer my question.
Salamence20 wrote:POE, gut. Seanald's claim. Close Deadline. Lack of conviction from JMO and Lincolm. Disappearance from RM and Fuz.
But it doesn't matter. He won't be it for today.
VOTE: JMO- Salamence20
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Majiffy wrote:^ jmo's partner.
Stay strong, town. Stay strong.
Scum GF and proud
In all seriousness, why does it seem we have a powerful town? Obviously, there has to be some liars or scum is powered as well. We have a bulletproof bodyguard and a Vengekilling JK (All one-shot). In my opinion, I feel like there is more of a chance Seanald is lying and here is why:
Seanald wrote:they are both 1 shot, so I can only use them once and I can only use 1 on a given night,I have to choose which one to activate.
Basically it is save my self and live, or protect someone else and die kinda thing. once I use it once it is gone.
Bolded is wrong. I feel bad that I didn't tend to look at it closer myself.
Bulletproof ispassive, which means that it doesn't have to be activated to be used. The reason the bodyguard is bulletproof is so that he can cause a no-kill if he or the protectee is hit.
Yeah, I'm changing my mind again. All aboard!
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1. My track revealed that ~somebody~ visited ~somebody~. If I understand what was said to day well enough, the visited person was neighbourized by the person I tracked *wink wink*.
This really didn't need to be claimed yet. You should have really kept that to yourself unless it proves as a guilty on player x or player y.
2. 4 town PRs is extremely unlikely (although the person I tracked could be mafia neighbourizer, if such role exists. I kind of doubt that). This means my vote today is extremely likely scum
idk, we have bulletproof bodyguard and a neighbourizer vs. scum JK. It is quite possible we have more than 4 PRs. Try again.
3. I'm odd-nighted and chances are I'm not living to Night 3 anyway
Got that right. You're not making it to night 2 either.
If people want me to be less vague about my claim, I'll go ahead and claim completely.
I want to know if you have a secondary role. You do not have to claim it, but I want to know if you do.- Salamence20
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Guys... Rondar scumslipped.
scum only have one role when Town has two....
Thats why JMO lied about having a Vengful.
I have two roles.
Seanald has two roles.
Im sure a few others have two roles.
RM has two roles.
MP5 was backup, but thats different.
After reading. I am 100% certain RM and Seanald is town.
Its time to drop the votes on RM and attack Rondar for a perfect town win.
With Much Love:
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First things first, I apologize for that claim about two roles = town post after further analysis. I guess I can't read just like the others.
So anyways, on with the discussion!
Rondar wrote:Well, if we're massclaiming anyway. I'll go ahead and out that I have Salamance visiting Majiffy.
Correct! 10 points to Rondar!
Jiff Peanut Butter wrote:Can someone explain to me what the fuck a fruit vendor is, and what it does? Am I marked for death or something?
This quote made me lol.
Rajon Rondo wrote:@Sala? Also, could you give us a full claim?
Neighborhood Cheese Vendor. Go Pack! (Seriously, go watch!)
Grizzle wrote:Obviously Rondar is indeed a tracker, though I'm wary just because that's the one investigative role I most associate with scum.
This. This is why I won't call Rondar conftown. Trackers can confirm town, yet think they can ride to lylo easily. With one scum left, however, that is not possible.
My Neighbor wrote:Oh and I am da Chicago Bears........hence why I hate the Packers........could I be neighbors with the Packers?
Bears suck! Go Pack!
My Neighbor wrote:Scum neighbors would seem pointless, since they would already have a qt to talk in.
But, neighbors can be either town or scum. For instance, us being neighbors does not fully clear either sala or myself. Sala is pretty much cleared for his cheese vending adventure, but not because he is a neighbor.
Read my opinion on neighbors in Salamence20: The Legacy. A story on my noobiness, rise to town leader, and back to utter noobiness. (I make it up in the Sequel: Salamence20: Redemption)
TL;DR: While I am not willing to go with it just yet, My neighbor is a suspect, but his play is definitely town so far. Lynch him and Rondar before lylo.
Rach wrote:Fu is correct, and unfortunately that does not help much uggh... redirector is often (though not always a scum role), but stating that kinda gives town points.
I can't see a point in a mafia commuter can anyone else? Which leaves Fu and of course Seanald.
DO NOT BASE READS ON ROLE IN ROLE MADNESS GAMES, AS WE HAVE A SCUM JK.
Jk is a town role, under certain circumstances, it can be a scum role. Even the cop could be scum. Don't base reads because X is a cop or Y is a commuter.
its really hard for me to believe Majiffy would be scum after yesterday.
I've done this before. Its called WIFOM-Logic.
Majiffy wouldn't bus like that because:
1. He isn't that dumb.
2. There was a Seanald Wagon Participating with JMO.
And on MP5, if I was scum I would have kept him alive. Normally this is wifom that I don't like to use as a defense, but in this case Sala can back me up on it. We both stated that we had suspicions of him and was probably our top scum read at Night. It would have made sense to keep MP5 alive since he would have been ripe for a mislynch. I don't believe we were the only ones that had suspicions of him as well. As someone said earlier, it was a poor choice for a lynch.
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Now it is time to ride the wagon analysis train!
In this adventure, I am going to put myself down as town as I am confirm and Majiffy as town because he is near confirmed.
[5]jmo16mla(Majiffy, FuDuzn, Rondar,Salamence20,MP5)
[1] Seanald (RachMarie)
[1] RachMarie (Seanald)
[1] Rondar (jmo16mla)
[1] Not Voting (Grizzlegom)
[4] jmo16mla (Majiffy,Salamence20, FuDuzn, Rondar)
[4] Seanald (Grizzlegom,MP5, RachMarie,jmo16mla)
[1] Not Voting (Seanald)
This was the final VC and the extent of Seanald wagon. Based on my education that non-bussing scum like running a non-scum wagon and that final VC mostly has another scum on a non-lynching wagon, RM and Grizzle are the best scum canidates today. Unless someone claims FD or Rondar are bussy.
So I think our last scum is within Rach and Grizzle. Seanald can be near-confirmed because of:
JMO wrote:Seanland is town. Shit.
Going with this, I am going against Majiffy and Voting:
VOTE: RachMarie
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