Micro 136: Bork's NFL UPick (Game Over)

[RachMarie]

Sorry all for being late to the party, having computer issues byt I am still here.

[RachMarie]

Hmm wow so ya all figure that Majiffy is scum that was awfully fast.

Especially with what hardly any posts?

Gonna dance to my own beat here and


VOTE: Fuduzn



For voting for dude which made him tell that awful joke

[RachMarie]

Actually I don't like football, but I like UPick setups and the mod is awesome ♥

I am far more likely to read a book, but I do know the names of a FEW football players.

[RachMarie]

I am here. will catch up.

[RachMarie]

Majiffy should not get a free pass, but I like to keep him around a bit longer before assuming he is scum, if he is town, we really could use him, if he is scum, we are in deep doo doo, and hopefully will be able to figure it out after a day or two. So for now he is in leaning town and I will need a lot more than we have so far to move him into the scum pile.

If you believe that Fu why the heck do you still have a vote on him

ATM I am kinda happy where my vote is.

[RachMarie]

I have played in a number of games with him and I can tell you that Majiffy is a very good player no matter what his alignment.

[RachMarie]

true, but it is only day 1. I have never seen town lose if we keep Majiffy around for at least the first couple of days, after that then I will be happy to lynch him, because by then I will have figured out that he is for sure scum.

[RachMarie]

Sorry Fu I am leaving you...

What kind of response is that Seanald? Sexual orientation should not be used as an insult.


Besides I am following the flowchart here...

VOTE: Seanald

[RachMarie]

Welcome Sala

Based on one post you can go in the Town pile for now. Pretty solid catch up post.

[RachMarie]

guys I do have other things I have to do oh like sleep?

Give me a few to drink my coffee and I will post my reads.

Welcome Rodar, and please feel free to call me Rach. It is my RL nickname so I do answer to it pretty well. Easier to type than RachMarie as well. And yes this site is better than EM from what I have heard. I never played on EM though.

[RachMarie]

oops Rondar sorry.

[RachMarie]

Jmo are you trying to say that because you were town in that game, you have to be town in this one? ahem each game is randomized independently.

[RachMarie]

hence my plan to if Majiffy is still alive after a day or two, then look at lynching him. Before LYLO that is. Simple.

[RachMarie]

Wow Seanald way to vote someone who is not playing anymore.

however, you have claimed, and it makes no sense to lynch an un CCed PR on Day 1.


INTENT TO HAMMER Jmo.

Claim time.

[RachMarie]

woah wait I missed a page reading up

[RachMarie]

Something is not right here. 2 people have claimed PRs both with dual roles. Granted this is an U Pick and they generally are not as balanced as most games, but I do not buy that both PR claims are Town, We have about a day, going to read through their ISOs and figure out which one is lying.

[RachMarie]

Is that how you scum hunt Fu? just go down the list and make complaints about each player?


I find it hard to believe both could be TOWN PRs, I did not say they were not both PRs. It is possible to have scum PRs, I was one once. (Mafia in LaLaLand I was the Sleep Therapist).

Someone mentioned SK, I highly doubt in a 9 player game there would be a 3rd party player. We probably have 2 scum and 7 townies of various stripes.

[RachMarie]

There has?

Well I could be mistaken then, though have not had them save for the weird cult game, but that really does not count because there were no real scum in it, just townies, two town PRs, a SK, and a Cult Leader. The cult won BTW and changes were made for the next round. It does kinda throw the game way off balance having a 3rd party in a 9 player game.

[RachMarie]

Maybe that is because I am not a mass commuter this time eh? and at least I am not Doc for a change either.


however not scum so try again. Wait a minute how can you be sure Jmo is town?


@ Fu you are assuming I read everything in that post completely instead of skimming it....

[RachMarie]

Looking through MP5's ISO see who else he suspected. Clearly he was a threat to the scum for some reason. Also going to look through Jmo's see if I can find any associative tells.

[RachMarie]

@ Sala?

Why are you asking Majiffy if you are scum? I would think you would know if you were?

[RachMarie]

ah yes seanald...

Give us a good reason why you are not a scum PR instead of a town one?

I find it amazing you were defending Jmo so much and even saying how your PRs matched each other.

We know that MP5 was a town PR and there are only 9 of us, I can't believe that the mod made everyone a PR? There has to be some vanilla somewhere?



@ Sala why do you wonder about me? I am just a sweet lil ol gal who happens to be NS's gf..

[RachMarie]

You would be wrong Fu, he basically lets me learn on my own. If I have a specific question about a role, or game mechanic that I am not familiar with, he will answer that, but he feels he should not influence how I actually play the game.

Sala I have no idea why the scum killed him, which is why I was looking for clues.

Seanald are you going to answer my questions? Also do you have any reasoning besides quoting my first post for voting for me?

[RachMarie]

uggh you are going to make me claim arent you ?

SF 49ers

and I am a PR, though not a great one, seems our mod does not like the 49ers cause they beat Cleveland in the Superbowl twice. I gave him 3 of the very few football teams I know, 49ers, Oakland Raiders, and LA Rams. All California teams.

I am an Ascetic which means basically other than being killed, nothing else works on me.

And that is why I have been playing the way I have, and it is also why I am so suspicious of seanald's claim. in a game of 9 players, 3 town PRs seems a bit far fetched.....

[RachMarie]

When did they move? I always knew them as the LA Rams? Along with the LA Dodgers in baseball. I actually went with my Aunt Jeanne and Uncle Bernie to a Dodgers game when I was a young kid. I was paraphrasing what the mod said was the reason for giving me a sucky PR lol.

Who are the Browns?

No it is not. Fu. I was ready to vote him on D 1 before his claim.

[RachMarie]

I came back to vote for him and someone already did and the thread was locked. I DO have a life outside of Mafia ya know

[RachMarie]

Also I happen to be 47 years old so yeah much of my NFL knowledge is woefully out of date too. I genuinely did not know they moved. I joined the game because the mod rocks and I like the Upick setup.

[RachMarie]

I have not seen anyone claim neighborizer WTF?

Are we all ALL PRs?

Rondar my PR claim is not weird check out the Wiki it is a real role.

BTW in Author Mafia we had a Mafia Fruit Vendor, so I guess a neighborizer as scum could be possible. As for a scum Tracker, I know that is also possible.

[RachMarie]

Actually he did lol.

Gave out fruit a few times plus of course ended up getting caught because he ended up the only one on his team left so had to do the kill.

I was my most common role in that game I was a Doc yet again (Played as Marion Zimmer Bradley NS was Gertrude Stein) .

[RachMarie]

huh Sala? I have 2 PRs?

As far as I know I am just an Ascetic which granted is not the greatest PR to have. Believe me if I were scum and fake claiming a PR I most definitely would not have chosen that one bah. Doc or Cop would have made more sense. Especially since most people on site are aware I am a major Doc magnet. (I land a Doc role far too often to be statistically valid). I am beginning to wonder though what purpose for my PR, maybe there is a mafia role cop?

wait a minute..... You can't track me I am an Ascetic... Rondar you might as well give it up...

[RachMarie]

From the Wiki

Ascetic
Ascetic
Alias:

Action-Immune

Alignment:

Varies

Role type:

Passive

Choice:

None

Ascetic is a role modifier (though it can function as a role in its own right) that causes a player to be immune to all actions at Night except kills. More precisely, Ascetic reflexively Roleblocks all actions taken against them except kills.

When combined with other power roles, the Ascetic modifier creates roles that cannot be tampered with directly, but are immune to beneficial actions as well. For example, an Ascetic Cop cannot be Roleblocked, but also cannot be protected by a Doctor.
Use and Power

By being unable to be tampered with, Ascetic roles lower the swing of games in which they are employed. Ascetics are a nuisance when Town because they cannot be protected or investigated, so Ascetic is more often used as a modifier to power roles so as to temper their power somewhat. Non-Town Ascetics get much more out of the Ascetic modifier, as they generally have no need for protection from kills but very much value immunity to investigations, roleblocks, redirects, and so forth.


yeah I should have a 2nd PR would be more useful to Town uggh, I guess the mod REALLY does not like the 49ers....

[RachMarie]

I presume what you mean by role madness, Majiffy, is that we all have some PR after all. That would explain WHY we had a universal backup with so many other PRs on the town side.

Yeah mass claim time.

So far we have:

Seanald 1 shot bodyguard, 1 shot bulletproof
Rondar Odd night Tracker (result: Sala visted Majiffy)
Sala cheesy fruit vendor (based on the track result and Majiffy getting cheese)
Rach Ascetic



@ Fu why you hatin on Packers so much? I think the cheeseheads are Wisconsin (the 2nd best cheese state). (and yeah I know you are like half joking with it, just curious).


@ Majiffy What the note say?

[RachMarie]

A fruit vendor each night can pick someone to deliver fruit to. Can be either Town or Mafia aligned, though more often Town. It is not a major PR lol. Unless Sala has some other role, all he can do is deliver his cheesy packages.

[RachMarie]

If he is Mafia, he would also be able to send in the kill. That is what tripped up Hulk Hogan (and predecessors) in the end in Author Mafia. He sent fruit out dutifully save the last time when he did the kill for his team because he was the only one left. We had orange and purple scum teams. But I think he is most likely a Town FV

[RachMarie]

Rondar is correct, unless it has been modified, both FV and Tracker do not have investigative powers.

[RachMarie]

good point.

Having 1 even 1 odd PR also fits.

Fu you need to claim.

[RachMarie]

Besides that another point that clears Sala, you are not dead Majiffy, but we did have a death.

[RachMarie]

uhhh no I am the 49ers a team from the BEST cheese state instead of the 2nd best lil ol Wisconsin

We even have happy cow commercials lol Though having grown up in Oakdale which is near many of the best dairies in the world, I have yet to see a happy cow lol.

[RachMarie]

Fu is correct, and unfortunately that does not help much uggh... redirector is often (though not always a scum role), but stating that kinda gives town points.

I can't see a point in a mafia commuter can anyone else? Which leaves Fu and of course Seanald.

BTW I am pretty sure we do not have the 3rd party, there have been only single kills. Unless the 3rd party is a non killing role, but none of the role claims would make sense with that?

[RachMarie]

oops and cant forget Rondar, Tracker can be either alignment quite easily. Actually come to think of it, that might make some sense. A scum tracker can't track me. Jmo could not have jailed me. hmmm

[RachMarie]

I would like to know the answer to that too Rondar? How is Fu cleared? I know Sala is cleared....

[RachMarie]

So Majiffy with all the claims out there now, what do you think?

[RachMarie]

ummm Rondar neighborizer is a different role than FV.

Going to look at Jmo's ISO and see if I can find any associative tells...

[RachMarie]

LOL I keep getting distracted....

ok basically in reading through Jmo's ISO.... It comes back to Seanald again... If you look at the interactions, you can see it is like two peas in a pod. So that was not that helpful.... Sigh I keep coming back to Fu...

[RachMarie]

wow just wow

Something is off base in your case, cause I am definitely not scum.

As for your saying Sean is town because of that comment from Jmo, don't count on that, he could have been trying to throw us off track, knowing he would likely get lynched.

I had fully intended on switching to Jmo BTW, but he was hammered before I could. I still am not completely convinced about Sean though. Like I said overall massive associative tells tween him and Jmo from Jmo's side of things.

Going to take a good look at his ISO next.


Why do you think Griz is scum? You think he is a Role Cop instead of a Town Cop? Or that he is fake claiming? If you think he is fake claiming do you think it is just the role or his NFL team as well?

BTW another major townie point for Majiffy

He mentioned early on about the Bills and then when he claimed he claimed the Bills, that congruency is towny. Scum tend to have more incongruency in their posts because of trying to "appear town".

[RachMarie]

good you are back Sean

First of all where do you get TWO JKs? Grizz claimed Even Night Cop, not JK.

[RachMarie]

ok let's see

Sala started a wagon on me.

Fu pointed at me, negated Salas other scum read saying he is town, then states Sean as 2nd

Finally Sean votes for me does not respond to my question, and finally adds a cryptic statement...


Ok based on Fu's response, and based Sala's response about Sean plus my look see at both his and Jmo's ISOs

In order from Town to Scum

Town
Cheezy (Sala)
Majiffy
Grizz
Sean.

Scum is most likely Fu...

Who is playing both sides of the fence here and holding back his vote without stating WHY.


pedit woah that looks like a scumslip there as well as a bit of white knighting...

Just solidifies my vote even more...

VOTE: Fu

With two votes, I believe that is L-1.


Pedit 2
No not exactly a JK I can't jail anyone and can't prevent someone from dying. All I can do is other than being killed nothing works on me, good or bad. Like a doc protect would also not work on me. If you tried to protect me I would still die if the other scum tried to kill me Sean.

[RachMarie]

Why are you so upset Sala?

If Fu is voting me and I will go check, and you voted for me Sala, then when Sean voted me I was hammered. With 5 it takes 3 to lynch...

bah

I am town so you are wrong Sala.

[RachMarie]

Yep I am hammered I totally missed that Fu still had a vote on me.

Sean WTF you hammered me then took it away? I keep going back and forth on you bah...

But I do think the final scum is Fu

See ya all after the game.

Bork there better be a dead thread

Town Ascetic signing off You still can win this and I am counting on you Sala and Majiffy. Pay attention to who gets NKed and lynch the other one basically. Since you two are definitely Town.

[RachMarie]

with 5 if is 3 to lynch not 4

[RachMarie]

yeah I just realized that sorry I am not braining well today uggh

I keep forgetting Rondar out there


LOL no I can be killed by the scum duh? I am supposed to be scum bait that is the only good use for an Ascetic.

[RachMarie]

You aren't related to Kondi are you Sala? He is always coming up with "plans" so yeah not so sure about following your "plan". Oddly enough Kondi always wants me lynched too... hmmm

[RachMarie]

Sean can you use both of your 1 shot abilities at the same time? Or do they have to be used separately? Cause I can see a major issue there, if the scum dude targets Griz, then Sean dies, which means we still lose one.

Question why if Fu is inno do you lynch BOTH Rondar and Sean?

[RachMarie]

Though personally, I think it is more likely he is the other scum, I am pointing out weak spots with your plan since based on it, I won't be here to help later.

[RachMarie]

What cause I thought Sean was scum? And someone else hammered before I could get into hammer Jmo?

oh well we still can win the game

Also Sala tomorrow is not Lylo that was what through me off into thinking we had only 5 players. So I guess your rep still stands if you guess right tomorrow

@ Majiffy who will you look at when I flip Town?

[RachMarie]

I still say I think it is Fu

[RachMarie]

Then I can go to my death happy, and leave it in your capable hands.

[RachMarie]

eeehhh tag fail griz lol

[RachMarie]

I told you there were holes in the plan Sala

[RachMarie]

@ Griz you do realize that Sala's edited plan is lynch Fu today me tomorrow if Fu is inno (which I highly doubt)

[RachMarie]

You guys were having entirely too much fun P: I want to be in your neighborhood lol.

THANK you Majiffy for pulling it off.

Grizz you really did a good job overall and it was a tough spot to be in. Probably would have been worse if you had not NKed MP5 cause he became a Town JK and that would have given us a LOT more of an edge....

A Mafia GF and a a Town Ascetic but no cop that seems kinda odd LOL. You might next time make the 2nd scum a Role Cop instead of a GF... Maybe add investigation immune or something if you need it for balance.

Great game Bork, and once again I helped Town win by dying lol this seems to be becoming a pattern.... oh well

Loved playing with all of you

[RachMarie]

LOL I mentioned the comments that Jmo and Sean posted in the dead thread about you Majiffy to NS, and his respose was...... welll......... he is just THAT good.

You and Thor are in a very small classification of peeps I play with that is labeled Hope he is Town or else we are totally screwed group.

Does not mean I always agree with you, but I recognize you are very good at playing whatever role you get.

[RachMarie]

Lunched?? LOL

[RachMarie]

shh both great peeps ♥

[RachMarie]

umm lol I kinda remember that game

Did you read the dead thread on that one? They were talking about it and wondered if they could start a Meal Mafia game of some kind LOL Was LS and Jacob Savage (aka Fe).

[RachMarie]

Of course Sala I still ♥ you