Micro 136: Bork's NFL UPick (Game Over)

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Hi jmo, hi Lincolm.
Hi to a few familiar faces from other games that I've been

stalking

following.
VOTE: FuDuzn

He always seems to be scum.

P-edit: hi jiffy. 28, 42, hut hut!

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VOTE: MP5

Do I know you?

Nope, we've never met before. But now, you know me well enough to vote for me.

Which reminds me of something I once heard ...

How much does a polar bear weigh?






Well, according to wikipedia:
" A boar (adult male) weighs around 350–700 kg (770–1,500 lb)"

That's how much a polar bear weighs, quite a lot.

I think that's enough to break the ice.

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It got awful silent in here ...

(You would hear crickets chirping, but they were too uncomfortable about just how un-funny that actually was.)

It also says in the rules that alignment is done randomly, I read it as being independant of the team you selected.

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Majiffy, you have three votes, are any of those votes worthy of suspicion at all?

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VOTE: grizzlegom

That's usefull.

More useful than leaving it on an rvs wagon that has stalled. Also, agree there is nothing in any of the votes so far, just trying to find something to talk about. Jmo, I dunno if I'd call it much town points ... Maybe very slightly to town side of null.

FuDuzn, why unvote? Think your vote is better kept in reserve than in play? I know (American) football players play less than half the game, but make your vote be tougher! Get it in the game!

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UNVOTE: Grizzle

VOTE: Lincolm

well that was easy. god his post was just full of fluff shit so he could look like he was doing something.

^^ I'll second this.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Lincolm

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Well, the team has been on defence so I've been sitting out, but now we have the football so back on to the field I go for the offensive drive!

Just before we recommence with the live action, lets get a play-by-play review as we look at the highlights:

#67 - On the replay, the two questions he asked actually make sense, I think Lincolm just troubles me with English not being his native language, I had troubles with him the one time we played together before (and in that game we had an early misunderstanding, I thought he was clear after it, turned out he was scum :S) but I do think he's clear here.
UNVOTE:
#68 - I'm satisfied with this by FuDuzn.
#74 -

you placed it there just to be active you didn't actually care about what you were saying

I don't like this one bit, Seanald is imputing motive here, trying to make Lincolm look bad.
#75 - seems a legit response from Lincolm, especially with the language barrier. Damnit Lincolm, I'm gonna hate you if you're scum in this, but I can't help but read you as town.
#79 - awful. How come? This question is raised later and inadequately dealt with IMO. Not just the "jmo is town" part, but also the "terrible vote". Suppose jmo is town, well town players acquire votes all the time, doesn't make the vote on them terrible. Often it aids the discussion and helps them pick up their game.
#94 - agree with Mac's point on jmo here with the "town points" business, but I don't necessarily develop a scum read over it. Any old town could do it as well, so meh its null. Slight props to Mac's slot though for making this argument.
#96 - Lol. How is this badly quoted? Jmo made two statements asserting two facts in his previous post, Jiffy merely quoted those two statements of fact without the clutter inbetween, highlighting the potential inconsistency/hypocrisy in them. Humourous, but not overtly scummy from either player actually. It wasn't that easy to get discussion kick-started, so I can totally see how jmo could be sitting back in that stage waiting - at worst it's laziness, which isn't a scumtell.
#101 - Not sure I agree here, the vote makes sense if you think that words were twisted deliberately and maliciously. @FuDuzn, do you? Wouldn't you agree that either of those statements still makes sense on their own?
#104 - Lol at the town read on Majiffy, this is adequately dealt with later. Your first reasonable input into the game too Grizzle, nice vote from jmo to prompt this so I'm happy to lean jmo slightly toward the town side...
#107 - Agree with the reasoning about the lack of a town tell, but you had the opportunity to explain your vote and answer the question about it and you didn't ... plus, your vote is already on Majiffy. Are you actually trying to determine alignments FuDuzn, or just create a case on a player and didn't like any conflicting evidence (incorrect as it was)? Hmm, the jury is out on this one ...
#108 - Ugh I don't like the intent of this on many levels.

VOTE: Seanald

Why did you feel you had to add this comment?

#109 - LOL.
#111 - Hi Rach, not feeling greatly moved by your entry into the game either way. Might lean you

slightly

townside for they way you felt justified in keeping your RVS vote.
#113 - The first part, I already said I don't think any words were twisted (@

jmo

- do you feel they were, and do you feel how Majiffy used your words was unfair?). The reasoning makes sense if you think they were ...
The second part is annoying ... you keep saying things that are true FuDuzn, I don't disagree with you, but how does this help us catch scum?

So far I have Lincolm, Mac, jmo, and Rach leaning town/slight town, Majiffy I have no idea I can't read him yet, Grizzle hasn't contributed enough so is null :S FuDuzn I'm uncertain on, but Seanald I'm confident is scum.

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Yeah, coz that has really convinced me not to vote for you ... I can only hope that it also convinces others not to vote for you ...

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Prod dodge as well, sorry I haven't had time to put more effort in the last couple days but will when I can get back to my laptop tonight.

So far I have Salamence firming as town, and I don't know what jmo was thinking after the claim. Will scrutinize Rondar's entry to the game, will need a re-read as my quick skim didn't leave me with much of a gut feel either way.

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Cool, good to know it only took jmo 35 posts to find a scum read and place a serious vote.

Seanald has claimed and despite the fact I'm not sure I trust the motivation for the claim (I don't see it quite as townish as Rondar does), this lynch isn't happening today.

UNVOTE:

I wasn't seeing or buying jmo-scum until the reaction to the role claim, since then he's been saying that Majiffy is wrong, or that Majiffy shouldn't be trusted/sheeped, or that quiet people need to talk. Where was the scum hunting again jmo? In my experience of you, you may not be the calmest or most level-headed guy, but I haven't seen you as dumb as you were in effectively saying "I trust Seanald's claim" when Grizzle questioned him on it.

Personally though, Fuduzn sets off the scumdar with #218 and #220. Seriously, I posted how I didn't think his words were twisted in 117, but I did ask jmo to be sure and he had no objections to it. Usually when people are quoted out of context they become angry or defensive of what they actually meant, but this isn't what has happened here. To first try to make Majiffy look like scum for doing it, then to backtrack and say "Oh I think you're town actually, this is where my vote should really be" and jump on to the guy who doesn't think Majiffy is scum for "twisting his words" because no words were actually twisted looks to me like he is trying to manufacture something. Like, I would be up for pushing this wagon if it weren't so late in the day ... if anybody else wants to join me on this, for now

VOTE: FuDuzn

If it goes nowhere, I intend to hammer jmo before deadline. Sala and Grizzle firm as town reads for me, Majiffy is ... town. I think. Not much else has changed for the rest.

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Quick phone post.
@FuDuzn, is it your intention to try to make other people look bad? You've done it to Majiffy, jmo and now myself and yet I don't see any reasonable trying to determine players alignments. What do you think of seanald? Grizzle? Sala? Etc ...

The reason it "took so long" is because my case was largely solidified on posts 218 and 220, as I said. Is my first post, within 24 hours after you posted them, not soon enough?

That said, we need a lynch for today. I threw a vote FuDuzn's way, but I have found both jmo and seanald scummy for their own reasons. I'd prefer hammering seanald to be honest, but jmo is far preferable to a no lynch.

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Rach? Mostly posted a bunch of either fluff or null tells. Can't discern a read either way, wouldn't mind some pressure here tomorrow but it ain't happening today.

And I don't care how I look. I asked why does it seem to be your only intention to make others look bad? (add rach to your hit list)

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UNVOTE: FuDuzn

Yeah, this isn't happening today.

VOTE: Seanald

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Four you say, jmo?

Well maybe you could make it 5 then if you started being helpful too ...

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Yeah, cause I could totally have had 40 posts too if I put every sentence I write in a new post ...

(+1 post count)

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Ok, seriously ...

Majiffy, FuDuzn, Rondar and Sala - any of you willing to lynch seanald?

(I'm guessing no, maybe?, no, no)

Just give me time, I'm down for a jmo lynch but its still only my 2nd preference.

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UNVOTE:
VOTE: jmo

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Hey guys...
*dies*
(they found a note in his pocket saying "

Go town ...

")

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Thanks for the game bork!

Great job town in closing it out, was fun to watch, look forward to playing with any or all of you in future