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Hello everyone, and welcome to Mafia. For those who aren't familiar with the game, you can rely on me, Xegarus, or MP5 for help in the game.
As an IC I'm suppose to challenge you, welcome you to the game, and provide a welcoming experience to the game. Once again, if you have any questions at all about how the game works, what you must do to ensure your team's survival, or anything like that, you can refer to me.
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↑ Voodoo Lady wrote:Putting me at L-2 before I even make a post because my name is kind of suspicious? Not cool, guys. :0(
Snake, I'm not understanding your suspicion of Mutley. Didi put a vote on Mutley during RVS to blackmail him into getting an avatar. When Mutley got an avatar, Didi removed his vote as he promised to do when he made the vote in the first place.
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↑ FSnake wrote:Because i was so confused about that RVS stuff i read anothter more detailed guide about it.
I thought we shouldn't build random wagons until someone seems suspicious. Now i'm more inclined to build wagons to create reactions and content.
Right now it's a slow game and i think part of it is that we have 5 people with one vote and nobody has more.
Please correct me if this is a total stupid idea (looking at you IC and SEs)
In that sense
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It's tradition, not a logical test game.he truth.
If you don't want to participate, join me and joke around with them.
I think it starts the game just fine, to tell you truth. Better than flat out calling someone scum and it having absolutely no effect.- theslimer3
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↑ FSnake wrote:↑ theslimer3 wrote:It's tradition, not a logical test game.he truth.
If you don't want to participate, join me and joke around with them.
I think it starts the game just fine, to tell you truth. Better than flat out calling someone scum and it having absolutely no effect.
Yeah i think i should have waited to try this for my next new game. This morning i replaced in another game and there the IC advocated what i tried here (the guide i mentioned was in his sig). So while i was reading that game to catch up i thought it would be a good idea to try this approach here. Time was running out before i had to leave home and i gave this "good idea" not much second thought. I now see how to tell what i will try before i do it wasn´t the optimal approach. At least i have another ICs opinion on RVS, thanks for that.
that leaves me with a bunch of null tells, i hate this game in such moments.
Worry not! I feel a storm brewing between Fsnake, Xega, and Xaio. Not sure what's going on, but it should cook something up to get us out of RVS/RQS- theslimer3
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↑ Voodoo Lady wrote:
Some scumpairs stick up for each other and prevent each other from being lynched. But knowing that, some scumpairs instead try to distance themselves from each other so that if one slips up and is lynched, the other one won't come under suspicion.
Actually, I have a pair of questions for you, Didi: what do you mean by "right now", and what sides are there to be on?
Actually, in the vast majority of my games, the scum pairs I've encountered, they've tried to keep apart or go against each other, rather than defend them.
However Xega seems like he was defending the RVS rather than me. If he was defending me, I'd be the subject of his rebuttal- theslimer3
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That sounds like a very very weak response. I'm going to have to add some more pressure to you, buddy.
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I have no idea what this just said. I'm not making fun of you if English isn't your native language, but could you rephrase this please?
Glad to play the part, and I still have the heart, but how can I begin with such a delayed start?
Are you on psp or something?
But really, the way you structure your sentences disrupt what you're saying through false punctuation.
At first it seemed like you were doing Haiku, and I didn't bother to check,
But your first sentence,
and the rest then following
are not 5 7 5.
Hows about reading the thread some more then? I know it can be a drag, but there's something built in you that will click when you think you spot mafia. It's in all of us, though we're most times wrong.↑ Mutleyddmc wrote:Right there is never going to be a lot to go on day 1. Mafia unlikely to slip up as they will know who they are and be careful on what they say. Obviously. If I had to pick, I would go with a choice of 4 at the moment. The slimer. MP5, snake and kingpin. No real suspicious though, could have easily have just random generated those and got as good a guess.- theslimer3
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From what I can tell, Mutely is causing a rucus and is being a total newbis. In a real game, he would be lynched for his trouble. He has his choice to replace out if he so desires, but if he needs to be ynched for disruption, then we lynch him. Point blank.
But that's an outside point of view since I'm phone posting and only had enough eye/time to skim. I want to announce v/la but I have a feeling ill have more time free soon. But between life, work, other projects, and managing something else, my time has been spent up lately, sorry for that xD
But blah, here you go.
I am V/LA for now.
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I went through a lot of this with a hella lot of different thoughts throughout the whole ordeal, so I'll do my best to capture the things that stuck out to me and say what I was thinking there.
Since it's the quotes could flood the page, I'll put it all in a spoiler.
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Tags fixed... belatedly. (Equinox)Last edited by Equinox on Thu May 23, 2013 6:44 pm, edited 1 time in total.- theslimer3
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I went through a lot of this with a hella lot of different thoughts throughout the whole ordeal, so I'll do my best to capture the things that stuck out to me and say what I was thinking there.
Since it's the quotes could flood the page, I'll put it all in a spoiler.
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Please ignore the first post, I accidently pressed send instead of preview e.e
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My personal reason to become V/La is none of your or anyone else's concern.
And the replace out of that game as well.
Maybe I did have a bit of an extended break, but IC aside, it's out of my control.
As an IC, tbh I'm not sure how I'm doing this game. Maybe bad, but ill still scumhunt and play as I normally would as I would to my fullest.
But as any player, I'm never completely serious. But that doesn't mean my non-seriousness isn't hidden hunting.
What was I getting at here....?
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So simply because you couldn't follow my catch up, it's useless?
And instead of asking about parts you didn't know, you simply ignored it. Maybe you don't care enough about my view on the game, but you could have at least asked to "catch me not knowing what I'm talking about", as scum often does get away with when analyzing someone/something.
And how you say I made no effort to catch up makes me really really think you didn't gI've that spoiler 3 seconds of your time.- theslimer3
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I'll rebreakdown your breakdown when I get on my pc later today, but id like to say that my vote on Mutt actually wasn't me calling him scum in the slightest. I was reaction testing him slightly. The main variable I was looking for was an OMGUS attack at me.
Mutts a bit of a center here so him reacting to my vote would pull in everyone else.
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I'll probably go more in depth later when I'm not typing 1word a minute
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At the time, I'd've said he were leaning scum.mp5 wrote:Not so cool. Now, you're looking for the scum-motivation in claiming VT, or at least trying to discredit the town-motivation in it. Vaguely throwing around suspicion without being decisive about it. Is Muttley scum because of it - yes or no?
Yet another maybe here. I'm not a definite person. Especially because of the fact that I'm not properly interacting with enough people. And I admit that much.Again, not cool. Vague suspicion on Xeg. You think what he did would be rare for scum to do? Fine. Is he scum because of it? Yes or no. Stop throwing vague suspicion around.
....Hmm, I thought he already did. Mind sharing why you think they are scummy? And, do you want to be on the same page with someone who should supposedly be of unknown alignment to you? I'm not surprised that Xeg would ignore this question.
And what? You're a bit hard to understand on that last part. Of course I'd want to be on the same page with someone of an unknown alignment. Can't find info by ignoring scum. Or can you?
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.
Stop being mr. Super serious. This game is for fun, not indefinite constant brain toil. I personally dislike those who don't like joking here and there. This isn't meant to be a super tense stressful game, so seriously, the game aside, don't treat it like it is.Did you... Did you mean for that to be meaningful...?
..?Here! This! slimer says that Muttley is "probably town"!!
Because HE'S being vauge. Hell, are you so onesided that you can't see everyone else?Decides Spadille is scummy for "bad reasoning". What about the reasoning is bad? It's vague suspicion again.
Scumslips are throwing around thoughts of what I think people said. Do-ly noted.@slimer - what changed to make you think Muttley was scum? I haven't seen it, and have clearly stated my position on him. If you think you are right, then you will need to convince myself and also Xeg (as he is in the same boat).
Personally, I think you've scum slipped. Your wall was doing nothing but throw vague suspicion at multiple people (who you don't even pressure with any sort of meaningful question or analysis), you haven't given a single townread except for the one guy you are now voting, and you aren't committing to any other read or course of action. It's seriously scum-motivated to not want to clear anybody (as this narrows the field for mislynches), and also to create or foster suspicion among multiple players (to widen the field for mislynches).
Guys, I'm calling the scum team for now as slimer/Didi.
Did you even read↑ frog wrote:theslimer: Begins by stating his IC duties and proceeds to ignore them the entire game. He's a bit too relaxed early on and doesn't engage with the game at all until 228. Posts some sensible suggestions before then but does little scumhunting. 228 is an awful post for so many reasons; firstly, theslimer turns every eventuality (claiming PR or VT) into a scumread, asks a lot of rhetorical questions but doesn't answer them with a point; secondly, he forgets his train halfway through, says Mutley is town and scum, then votes him for no given reason three posts later. Ellipses and speculative questions are not scumhunting at all, but it's a good way to feign being town. The post really begs the question 'well, yes, but what does this mean?' but theslimer does not answer this. No substance to his posts, no scumhunting, just jokes and useless speculation, all the while when he's meant to be an IC. Verdict: Scum.
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theslimer3 wrote:I'll rebreakdown your breakdown when I get on my pc later today, but id like to say that my vote on Mutt actually wasn't me calling him scum in the slightest. I was reaction testing him slightly. The main variable I was looking for was an OMGUS attack at me.
Mutts a bit of a center here so him reacting to my vote would pull in everyone else.
The basics of that is that He's the pull of the town. Everyone pretty much is targeting him and he's practically being nubbish with responces. A few people view it as town, and some don't.
He's playing around just a bit too much and he's finding the game boring. My vote on him was strictly reaction testing to test the reaction of him, and those around it. Seeing how you and Mp5 seem to find that as the perfect opportunity to hop on me for TESTING (which I would like to say is not a crime in this game) a reaction.
No, I don't share everything I'm thinking. I NEVER DO. Iso me, you'll see. Everything I say and do is either for fun or to see something/ analyze what I've seen.
Even though I have a town read on mp5, the way you're simply holding being an IC against me and the way I've said one little thing marks the margin of what scum is.
I may not be the best IC in the world, but I sure as hell am not the worst player. So stop treating this game like a newbie game and come at me with actual evidence besides me withholding logic.
↑ Didi wrote:I'm not a girl yo
What's OMGUS? OMG U Scum? Like a sort of kneejerk reaction to questioning or votes or something?
I should probably do an ISO of everyone , but I'm kind of busy irl
However, I agree with what MP5 and frog have said about Slimer, specifically about him just giving lots of scumreads on various people and vague suspicions without much backup - especially since just assuming someone is scum and then disecting them from there is something he personally advocated against.
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Did I not make that post I made bold enough?
Here's a little something to help you all for the future.
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K I'm done waiting to get to my pc to post a wall that 1 person would read (the person its to) and the rest seeing it as jjust what the other player said.
Phone posting this game now.
You both may want me lynched and you both may hate my muttley interactions and my conservative attitude, but you could at least hear it out rather than immediately calling it Scum.
I was webbing his reaction to everyone else. Thus made it... Well complex I guess >.>
I can't be vague anymore. Woe is me ;-;
And my youthful spirit resides in my hearts of all players I've affected thus far!
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this was funny
I'll post my evaluation on the game a bit later after church/work... Or maybe not since I'm closing. I'll get to it!
Great game guys, and yeah, equi was right, the day lasted a little too long for the ending it got.
But thanks Equi for my first IC game :$- theslimer3
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I'd say everyone did do pretty good.
Day one was quite the uproar because of Mutt's distraction, and my inactivity wasn't really one to help much.
Also the fact that none of us was in sync for the majority of the time as a bit of Chaos. Town's gotta be town, not attacking everyone and trusting no one >.>
But all in all, that ending was pretty disastrous. It's not mutt's fault, he didn't know I'd get hammered, and plus, it was just a little joke. I forgive yah, buddy.
Day two was chaos too. And mutt hammering himself wasn't helping much.
I think he's learned quite a few lessons too from this.
He hammered himself too quickly, and I'd say right in the middle of the town's theory moment. A very crucial thing and probably could have changed the outcome of day 4 (maybe by lessoning the time by a few weeks xD).
Day 3 had mutt out of the picture and it seemed to clear everyone's mind a bit more. Seeing a lot of key posts here. Glad town took it serious. Mac acted quite well. I think maybe Nick and frog should have bussed a bit more so it wouldn't be more obvious in the end. I think Xaoi was getting even more serious in this day.
Day 4
Pretty much this in a nutshell
Some good content, but stretched over time. Lots of waiting that seemed unnecessary when this could just happen
But good games guys. I suck at explaining things but hopefully you understood what I meant.
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