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↑ FSnake wrote:Hm i see a vote because somebody is missing an avatar still as a random vote.
"to vote for a reason" means for me suspicion of scum, other than that it is rv, especially Page 1. At least in my eyes it is.
For me it was more interesting that Mutley was so eager to get the vote off him.
Why so afraid of one random vote Mutley?
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Right there is never going to be a lot to go on day 1. Mafia unlikely to slip up as they will know who they are and be careful on what they say. Obviously. If I had to pick, I would go with a choice of 4 at the moment. The slimer. MP5, snake and kingpin. No real suspicious though, could have easily have just random generated those and got as good a guess.- Mutleyddmc
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↑ Voodoo Lady wrote:↑ Mutleyddmc wrote:Right there is never going to be a lot to go on day 1. Mafia unlikely to slip up as they will know who they are and be careful on what they say. Obviously. If I had to pick, I would go with a choice of 4 at the moment. The slimer. MP5, snake and kingpin. No real suspicious though, could have easily have just random generated those and got as good a guess.
There's no way this could possibly be construed as an answer to any of the questions asked of you. Perhaps I should ask again.
VOTE: Mutley
1) Were you threatened by Didi's vote on you?
2) What was the point of the "easily swayed" comment?
I started to answer these pointless questions but decided I wouldnt waste my breath with pointless questions that have been answered. What was the point in you asking me?- Mutleyddmc
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How are those questions not pointless? I obviously wasn't threatened as shown by my 'dry' answers answer that. Just because you want a straight up answer isn't my fault also shown by just common sense why would I be threatened by a first vote? Secondly I called him easily swayed because he did as I said even if it was because he said he would. Hence pointless they could have been answered by anyone or by using your own common sense.- Mutleyddmc
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How am I causing a ruckus? Because I didn't feel that the questions were worthwhile because they could have been answered by anyone with a brain and didnt need a clarification? If I was scum surely I'd have been defending myself to stay alive. Yet I haven't I don't mind being the first one gone. Someone always has to be. No voodoo at the time I thought you and xeg were more town. But not so sure on xeg now. Kingpin too. You and didi likely town.
I don't have any massive reads of course as its day one and only a few posts really. You learn more from a lynch and a night. That's when you can get your reads sorted as such. So as I say go ahead an lynch me you might learn something. In fact even if you don't lynch me I'm sure ill be killed tonight.- Mutleyddmc
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I put something out there straight away. Knowing it would be picked up on, but not said out loud. Which would mean the mafia wasted a kill if they picked up on it (therefore I have slightly helped the town) or this would happen they would pick up on it and be happy to get me lynched. You seem very eager for it so I'd happily say you were mafia now.- Mutleyddmc
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↑ KingPin96 wrote:↑ Mutleyddmc wrote:You thought you had ended it, you didn't realise your vote was already on me. You thought you had taken a power role out first day mr mafia.
A power role would have had more motivation to defend themselves and scumhunt. You have pretty much done neither.
I'm not a power role. I said he thought he had taken one out. also in previous games when being a power role surely scumhunting too much early on is more likely to make you a kill target and therefore you would be killed and losing the town a big weapon.- Mutleyddmc
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↑ Xiao Long wrote:↑ theslimer3 wrote:From what I can tell, Mutely is causing a rucus and is being a total newbis. In a real game, he would be lynched for his trouble. He has his choice to replace out if he so desires, but if he needs to be ynched for disruption, then we lynch him. Point blank.
Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't mind lynching him. But to be perfectly honest, I'd rather have him replaced with someone who will actually play the game if he continues not to play it.
Also, nice haiku. =]
Xeg: You actually did push his lynch because you thought you were hammering him.
Mutley: Just because you think a question isn't worthwhile and that anyone could come up with the answer for it, doesn't mean you should just NOT answer the question. All this does is make you look like a scummy piece of shit. It's quite evident that you don't mind being the first one gone as you've done nothing pro town since the game has started. So far you have 8 people against you which does nothing but make it harder for us townies to find who is scum.
Mutley wrote:I put something out there straight away. Knowing it would be picked up on, but not said out loud. Which would mean the mafia wasted a kill if they picked up on it
What are you talking about? What did you put out there? What would be picked up? The only thing I've picked up from your posts is that you're content with trolling until we lynch you. And what do you mean mafia wastes a kill? If you're not scum, you're practically a free kill for mafia because everyone is against you (with the exception of MP5 and Snake as they haven't really posted much about this).
The tag fucking up is making it hard to read but I will try. What has anyone done that is really pro town? it is day one surely everyone really comes across pro town thats the point of the game? We don't learn anything until day 2 anyway. Its all waffle and shit on day 1. By waste a kille I mean the use a kill on a vanilla thinking it was a power role. Rather than having a shot at one of the power roles.
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Surely someone who came donw so happily with the hammer (even though it wasn't the hammer) is seen as more scummy? So you can say I haven't helped the town, but in a way I have because I've drawn people out who thought they were getting a nice easy day 1 lynch but fucked it up and is now saying that they weren't pushing for me (having to defend their actions a bit now?)- Mutleyddmc
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Why would I claim something though? I would only be helping the mafia by possibly getting town roles out in the open on day 1, how would that help? I'd like to clarify what I mean by not learn anything, I mean nothing can be set it stone day 1. It is only till day 2 that we can possibly try and confirm what we think we learnt or throw it out. I don't mind being the first guy gone. It will hopefully as I say help you learn more for day 2. Ie look more into yours and xegs posts here. (don't think both are mafia) I'm sure when the day ends, 1 mafia will be voting me and 1 won't.- Mutleyddmc
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↑ Didi wrote:Pretty sure that if Mutley is mafia, Xiao is as well.
1) wanting him to be replaced instead of lynched (maybe a new scummate would be less likely to get lynched because less abrasive playstyle)
2) calling out the fake hammer before Mutley could react to it
3) talking to him now, actively trying to make him act less scummy
Sounds like he's trying to do everything in his power to make sure Mutley doesn't get lynched
if Mutley isn't mafia though I don't know what to think
Im not defending xiao here but point out a little flaw in your logic. Trying to do everything in his power would mean removing his vote just saying.- Mutleyddmc
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↑ Mutleyddmc wrote:↑ KingPin96 wrote:↑ Mutleyddmc wrote:You thought you had ended it, you didn't realise your vote was already on me. You thought you had taken a power role out first day mr mafia.
A power role would have had more motivation to defend themselves and scumhunt. You have pretty much done neither.
I'm not a power role. I said he thought he had taken one out. also in previous games when being a power role surely scumhunting too much early on is more likely to make you a kill target and therefore you would be killed and losing the town a big weapon.
Here I clearly say I am not a power role? is that not therefore implying VT?- Mutleyddmc
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So you ignore my last post after you said that I hadn't implied VT. Even though I had porved that I had implied it? My point about the PR was more that I put a fake something out there hoping it would be picked up on. Therefore if I survived a day 1 lynch the mafia would have to kill me if they saw it. That way they would only get a VT kill and not a PR.- Mutleyddmc
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Well you will be wrong. I'm just waiting for the final vote. You say your fake hammer was and plan. I've also done my plan and you will see that I'm not lying when someone finally comes in a votes me. My point of that post even if it was after the slip you asked me to claim. Surely I had already claimed by saying I am not a power role (whether or not you think I am covering up) as by saying I am not a power role leaves only VT.- Mutleyddmc
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↑ Xegarus wrote:↑ Mutleyddmc wrote:So you ignore my last post after you said that I hadn't implied VT. Even though I had porved that I had implied it? My point about the PR was more that I put a fake something out there hoping it would be picked up on. Therefore if I survived a day 1 lynch the mafia would have to kill me if they saw it. That way they would only get a VT kill and not a PR.
I'm not ignoreing it. It was a post made after the slip so obviously you would try to deflect it.
Heres how i see it. You mentioned something.
Were called out for it and so you denied it. I believe you scum slipped when you even brought up the PR talk.
I think you denied it cause you realised that you shouldn't have. I believe you have the words POWER ROLE ingraved into your head that you might have mispoke.
If you did claim a PR, i would have believed it easily since it sounded plausible. But now that you claimed VT, i think you are a scum pr.
also you are being very noobish your self in thinking that me claiming VT means I am scum. If I was scum I'd have claimed power role. It would likely have saved me for at least one day. If not it would have got that PR to have to counter the claim. Giving vital info to the other scum.- Mutleyddmc
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well I call any mafia a power role. It is some kind of role. Ive said why I am accepting it. I don't care for being the first one lynched because you guys can hopefully get some info from the last few hours exchange. plus someone has to go its only a game. I am looking for scum by carrying on these exchanges and seeing people reactions. Theres not exactly a whole lot of other ways to look on day 1 is there?- Mutleyddmc
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day 2 is better because we get to see who the mafia kills if they did? etc. It's still not great but better than day 1. Exchanges may be against me but also its only really bene you pushing, giving me a little bit more into thinking you are town, the mafia are probably sitting back watching? Hello kingpin? You've viewed the thread during these exchanges but nothing to add.
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Yes Fsnake the scum or at least one is likely to be hiding in the midst knowing that I would be an easy lynch. Which is why I am very much looking at Kingpin. He was around but never voted me even though he thinks I am scum or anti-town. Maybe because he knows I am going to flip town and therefore won't be looked at too much after cos he wasn't on the wagon.- Mutleyddmc
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For me kingpin is likely mafia due to his not wanting to hammer me. He didnt want to get looked at as the final blow so was waiting for someone else. He lurked a bit and didnt get involved in the exchanges. If he is mafia he knew all I was doing was being 'anti town' therefore was happy to reinforce his opinion in it. So that the town would look at it as in a oh he was right etc He's not mafia!
You I feel are mafia because again you wanted me gone, but also tries to get me to defend myself. Knowing that I would flip town it would make you look town too even though you voted me. Also you posts that have been brought up previously about not thinking you look scummy. You are obviously worried about trying not to look scummy and not just playing the game knowing you don't need to lie because you are town and have nothing to hide.
As you feel the need to call someone a cunt I feel I'd rather vote you over king pin.
Also I feel you've changed slightly since votes have come off me because of my arrogance and stubbornness. You seem to be playing yourself towards that role too. So that you can use that defence of 'well you saw mutley as town because of that post style why not me?'- Mutleyddmc
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Well I'm not voting for you just cos of what you've called me how can you not see that. I have two options you or kingpin your horrible nature was the deciding factor in the two.
You say people don't read maybe you should too! I never said you've actually lied about anything. I meant that you are over trying to not be scummy hence why you don't feel you aren't scummy where us the townies play the game not having to think about the posts because they aren't lying or hiding anything. I don't mind coming across scummy because I know I'm not. As it was said before commenting in your own scumminess is doing it wrong.- Mutleyddmc
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How do you not understand that I'm not voting for you just because you called me a cunt. I'm voting you over the other scummy person in my mind. Not like I've gone he's not scummy at all but he's a cunt so I'm voting him. Well of course I'm implying you are lying cos I've voted you and said you are scum. Which means I've implied it. But not picked out one clear lie.
You have no intention of playing the way people expect you too. However because I play by being a bit of a troll etc you thought I was scum? Pot kettle and black springs to mind.- Mutleyddmc
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Lol getting wound up. Not my fault you don't call this as playing pretty sure I was playing as I was posting and voted. thats surely playing? just not your way?
So my vote isn't legit even though I've given other reasons so had to pick something as a tie breaker what do you expect me to do? Plus I'm sure it is legit as it will count in the vote count therefore legit!
Oh and you are lying by not saying you are scum. Again you should read I never said you lied in one particular statement. But because you are scum you are therefore lying to the town.- Mutleyddmc
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I have to agree with xiao. While not impossible i don't think xiao and kingpin are both scum. If they are it would be a bit obvious? However that can also be a ploy, sometimes it's so obvious it can't be true! So they could be playing that angle.
I like the post on didi and those posts of his are definitely scum like, and what I look for. The whole pot kettle black, the whole covering all bases. His response afterwards of clueless townie but understand while you suspect him, also shouts scum to me. A few more scummy posts could put him up there with xiao and kingpin for me.- Mutleyddmc
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So voodoo you start by saying that I am more than likely not scum. Then say they chances of Mutley being scum are quite good? The reason I say that about kingpin and xiao are because you can never rule anything out in this game. If they were both scum it's as I said in that quote. It seems too obvious, so we are unlikely to look at it. I can use it if I want. And my god the whole I voted for someone cos he called me a cunt is going too far. I used it as a tie breaker not as the only reason.
Xiao the reason I think both you and mp5 could be together was the early attacks of each other. However it was more a passing comment and just a thought as I said rather than any solid evidence so I won't be taking it further for now.
I actually don't like slimers post to me it seems more like fluff covered up in 'analysis'. Lots of already said points and a quote with I forgot my point here?- Mutleyddmc
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I love your questioning on my post 149 voodoo. Mainly because you say I has clearly stated I was vanilla. However all the posts at the time were from xiao and xeg asking for a claim!! It shows ISOing posts can take out context. But also you must have thought I'd claimed vanilla from my ISO. Which is at the time what I thought I had too, hence some of my answers in the next few posts. This is why I love it.- Mutleyddmc
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↑ Xiao Long wrote:↑ Voodoo Lady wrote:
... :0? I don't know what you're getting at here. How is inviting everyone to sit back and watch you and Mutley devour each other part of your plan?
My thought process was that at least one of the players not involved in the me-mutley-sadille three-way was scum
I want to question your thinking here. You did something because it meant you could narrow down 1 in 6 to scum? You should surely be scum hunting by doing things that would increase the probability over just doing a random generator. Getting 1 in 6 is worse than just random generating one of the 9 to lynch.- Mutleyddmc
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However if you say it's 1 in 5 (sorry I didn't read your post completely. That's still less chance than just asking a random generator and picking one of all of us. If you are going to use a tactic to scum hunt you need to make sure your tactic is increasing the chances of just randomising it. You have not.- Mutleyddmc
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Yes but that's you taking into account that your reads are right or whatever. Right now they are wrong cos you think I am scum. Which because you are taking voodoo out are doing it wrong especially for "she seems pretty town" because there's no reason right now to take anyone out of the equation completely. Especially for pretty town you aren't even saying that you are 100% so why would you take her out?
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So you aren't 100% sure hence why she shouldn't be taken out. How do you not see that. If you are trying to prove something say like a scientist does. If you don't take into account every possibility and to 8 other people there's a possibility you are mafia. You won't be taken seriously until you make it fair 'experiments' or whatever.
Voodoo please turn out to be scum. It would be hilarious.
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Just as much scum hunting as you. What's a b? Why is it your b? There's not really and band wagon on you. I have you and king pin and most scummy so my vote lies on one of you. Mp5 made good points on didi so he's up there but my above you two yet. I still don't mind getting lynched. In fact I'd really like to get lynched just to prove how wrong you really are.- Mutleyddmc
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No I just didnt see any reason to shorten the word bad. You don't say F you. You say Fuck. So why shorten a 3 letter word.
Shame that you didn't lie about voodoo then and agree I might have taken my vote off you . Also again you are very tunnel visioned on me at the moment. You questioned me for voting you for calling me a cunt (amongst other reasons) yet you are happy for slimers vote I am guessing?
Certainly aren't losing your PKB name.
Voodoo but what I'm saying there was I knew I had said that but they wouldn't take that as a claim. Hence why I love that you've interpreted what I said right but at the time they didnt and wanted me to actually say VT!!!- Mutleyddmc
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