Mini 1433 - State Farm Mafia - Game over

[Hiraki]

uh post

will read later

[Hiraki]

uh post

will read later

And here's another scum, too busy to read 16 or so one-liner posts.

or lazy

yeah lazy

[Hiraki]

What's the point of this?

egopost, basically.

I will get to this by tonight.

[Hiraki]

People voting without 'random' reasons? Wtf is this?

VOTE: doctor
Hydras posting twice. Trying to spam the game up.

Bad.

Marangal could also be scum for asking a pointless question about who the hydras are.

vote: Marangal

Worse.

VOTE: absta101
for voting doctor for voting twice and spamming up the thread, then immediately voting somebody else.

FoS: Marangal for caring about absta's obv-not-serious statement.

Horrible.

SCUM
BrightEyedFish
Keybladeweilder
afetyDance

Hiraki

HadMatter

Beyond belief.

Great! Caught one.

VOTE: BrightEyedFish

-DGB

Eh. I'm on the edge here.

He was already in your scum pile though.

zank u sherlock

But even so, that really doesn't matter in the sense that it wasn't really a good list (because I was scum, obv.)

At the same time, I'm on the edge because he could be cheeky.

What a coincidence, so am I.

Pitiful. And not even that good of snarkicism.

Just for the sake of keeping all wagons flowing together:

VOTE: Marangal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQzV_p8fJ9U

Don't like the sound of that at all.
VOTE: Fish

This is why you vote him?

I take it back DGB. Even if I did read these posts, I did my best to try and forget them as quickly as possible.

Lynchpool: SafetyDance, BEF, Xegarus, Bacde (Last Resort)

Unvote, Vote: BigEyedFish

Not sure on Absta yet, just to note. I thought he was better than this but I could be wrong.

[Hiraki]

Hiraki is throwing me off

his reads are all way different than mine plus he has me in his potential lynch pool

so basically you don't like me because i think you require death

ok

[Hiraki]

Reads being different isn't entirely bad if the reasons given are sound.

You may not agree with the conclusion but the thing that scum do is that they twist the reasonings to look bad on people who aren't bad.

[Hiraki]

For instance, absta's posts have been pretty town yet you think his posts are bad

so basically you don't like me

I'll admit we've never played so allow "like" to be one in the same with reads. That's more of a me thing.

That being said, my read definitely changed to a bit stronger after your last post.

I'm just saying your reads are all different than mine

No, this is what you said.

Hiraki is throwing me off

his reads are all way different than mine plus he has me in his potential lynch pool

I'm not convinced that Bright-Eyed Fish is the way to go, he looks really derp

I'ma just Vote: Revenus since it seems like no one else has noticed this scum

Sure, I'll admit that saying "you don't like me so you want me dead" was a bit of an over-reaction as well in hindsight. However there's literally no reason to note that you're in my lynchpool when I said you were on the edge, as you explained in your last post.

The real point that I feel like an idiot for not conveying is that you're calling BEF derp but your explanation comes after BEF should throw your read off (i.e. by affirming it himself)

No one else has voted for Rev

usually Rev finds it very important to be scumhunting and out in the open

this is the first time I've seen him explicitly hiding

Not only is this meta (which shouldn't be the foundation of a case) but this is Page 3.

Besides, in my findings:

I have no idea if any of you are being serious and retarded or joking and retarded.


I'm going to bury my head in the sand until something picks up.

This is a clear example of Revenus town meta to me.

I'll continue more later.

[Hiraki]

2-3.

BrightEyedFish has also requested a replacement

if this doesn't scream nubscum

you're all idiots

Now, recap time.

so basically my meta on Rev is bad because its meta, and you have a counter-meta point on Rev being town.

Because one is trying to kill the person and one is trying to keep the person alive. If you're going to make a case to kill someone, you better have some good evidence on your back. If you're going to call someone town, there should be some reason but definitely not as concrete as full-fledged scumread. Just because you're addressing two extremes doesn't mean that the two extremes are equal in stance.

I'm used to every game having that player and I got off the BEF wagon as soon as I realized how lazy it was

And you don't think he took advantage of that?

Also, there is a reason to note when I'm in your lynch pool, since what you post is a part of the game for me to make comments on

While I had no reasoning. That's basically an RVS reaction--just not in RVS. Your reaction after it is a vote, basically. I'm going to make my move.

If we don't find consensus on BEF, then I'm going after Bacde.

[Hiraki]

...whats your case on BEF, by the way?

Just for the sake of keeping all wagons flowing together:

VOTE: Marangal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQzV_p8fJ9U

Let's do a bit of thinking here.

Could it be that my youtube link had meaning? But of it's of elephants...what the hell are common phrases with elephants.

could it possibly be that he's ignoring the elephant in the room

but what could this elephant be hmmm

hmmmmm

maybe a vote that dr zoidberg brought out

but just a guess, it's not like i showed a path of logic here.

There isn't some requirement out there that I need more or less evidence to want to lynch someone than to say that they are town

But in my opinion it does

don't agree? don't really care

He might be getting lucky, but to be frank I don't see him being good enough of a player to manipulate how I perceive events.

It's not that hard to play off when you call him derping. Hell, X says Herp. Y is probably going to say Herp Derp. You kind of gave him a bit of leeway.

So if you made a statement with little reasoning, then you should have been looking for a reaction.

Correct.

But when I reacted, you then stated that I had no reason to respond to your post.

Pointing it out something is much different than reacting to it. If you've ever played Ace Attorney, then you should realize how the court case works in the game. You're able to object to certain statements but if you want to succeed in the game, you'll need to point something out that makes sense.

Your statement is bad because you're able to point at a statement but never had stated why exactly it was wrong.

This is the only thing that could be remotely related:

his reads are all way different than mine plus he has me in his potential lynch pool

This doesn't say anything why I'm wrong just that I'm wrong. This is pointing. Not reacting.

I don't even understand why you are still on the BEF wagon, you seem much more interested in me (oh wait, you are scum aren't you)

Or

or

or

I have a scum read on both of you and want to stay on the largest/er wagon.

Pre-edit: Xegarus is actually pretty nooby still.

[Hiraki]

except that's literally spot on what he's doing

from my skimmings it's basically keyblade doesn't like revenus for being a VI (seriously, what the fuck? grow up--and that's coming from me)

more douchey than scummy

[Hiraki]

As much as this is a shitty lynch, my justicegut is telling me to vote.

FFFFF

[Hiraki]

IFM is scum due to BFM.

It sucks for IFM but it's like a confirmed scum right there.

Keyblade is just a douche. Not really scum.

[Hiraki]

As much as I want to believe he's overwhelmed town, I'm going to keep him as null for now.

Logic-wise, I agree with your other head.

Meta-wise, he's been a bit unstable so I'm a bit weary to comment on him.

[Hiraki]

Ok--I swear today. Yesterday was a bit hectic. Tonight I'm going to catch up in this game and one other.

[Hiraki]

Ok--I swear today. Yesterday was a bit hectic. Tonight I'm going to catch up in this game and one other.

This post was supposed to go to another game. Ignore it please.

What happened to Hiraki-scum

He's town now.

-DGB

You never really doubted I was town.

Right?

RIGHT?!??

There is a theory out there that says the more people V/LA when the heat's on, the more likely they are scum.

I subscribe to this theory.

-DGB

i actually can't tell if this is sarcasm

but i hope to god it is

[Hiraki]

i actually can't tell if this is sarcasm

but i hope to god it is

It's true for me, I always excuse myself when I'm scum. Well until I got a grip, stopped doing it myself, and started to call it a scumtell in other people.

-DGB

While it may be true, it's true in a metasense. Sure, take the risk if you want to but I'm going to stay by the lurking is a null tell dealio.

[Hiraki]

I say nub as a homage to Star Wars Battlefront. (A cheat code is if you insert your profile name as nubnub)

[Hiraki]

Hiarki, what do you think about Bacde?

He's scum...?

[Hiraki]

seriously

kbw

fffff

Anywho, I'll comment more later. I know I've been lagging here.

[Hiraki]

He's being replaced.

I'm not mad at his inactivity.

[Hiraki]

Interesting.

Unvote, Vote: AP

Something feels off here.

And while usually my rule is to ignore the replacement's posts and go for what the replaced read was, I feel different about this.

[Hiraki]

But you are scum, my vote is well placed : )

Are you the same AP?

[Hiraki]

^^ehh this feels like town AP

He's literally not aggressive at all. What do you mean?

[Hiraki]

You're not being aggressive as usual. It's frightening.

[Hiraki]

I'm still on the fence about Absta. Am leaning toward stopping this wagon though.

I'd much prefer my lynchpool over Absta (For reference: Lynchpool: SafetyDance,

BEF

IFM,

Xegarus

Zdenek, Bacde )

[Hiraki]

What does your other head think of my lynchpool though?

[Hiraki]

and has not been added to, his lynchpool.

You're not being aggressive as usual. It's frightening.

Because it was a weak meta read, but it was a read that had the highest number of candidates in support.

I don't believe that he believes in any of his reads.

So you don't think I believe in my reads but fail to give any reason why. That's cool.

His lynchpool hasn't changed since page 2, Bacde went from being a last resort lynch to requiring death, Xeg was in the lynchpool, Hiraki wanted to believe that he's a townie.

Sure, it hasn't changed but that doesn't mean that oh my god he's just not caring.

I've kept up on my reads for Bacde and IFM. The only two that I haven't are SafetyDance and Xegarus. I've played with Xegarus 3 times in the last 3 months so I'm pretty confident in my early read and everything I've read after that (especially 112) reeks of scumXeg. SafetyDance is your only good point here and you really just need to skim his ISO to see the shit he's posted. I mean this is CooLDoG alt bad.

[Hiraki]

That is usual RachMarie and I've played with Xegarus at least three times in the month. I'm pretty sure two ended with one being a scumflip and the other being a townflip while the third is ongoing. I'm lazy and I don't want to check.

[Hiraki]

That is usual RachMarie and I've played with Xegarus at least three times in the month. I'm pretty sure two ended with one being a scumflip and the other being a townflip while the third is ongoing. I'm lazy and I don't want to check.

So your case is meta based, you won't back up your case and you don't think meta should be the basis for a case?

Can you quote where I said the second part? And you can check out Xegarus' games yourself. It's not like they're not out in the open.

[Hiraki]

A case is accusatory while a town read requires no case.

Secondly, this is not about me trying to read Xeg, it's about me trying to read you. Knowing why you think things helps with that.

And I'm sure giving you a bunch of links will totally help you with that.

I don't like any of these wagons.

[Hiraki]

@ Hiraki

So who DO you like? Your vote currently is on AP, and I have a towny feel about him. Granted it is the smallest of the wagons, but it does kinda contradict your not liking any of the wagons statement.

srz

[Hiraki]

It's L-2 but I'm game for an IFM lynch.

[Hiraki]

RandomYoshi is a nubnub

not scum in this scenario

[Hiraki]

Hiraki, it would be cool to hear you monologue about RachMArie's alignment for a bit.

give me a minimum word limit and you've got it

[Hiraki]

Why?

[Hiraki]

Also, Hiarki, it seems that you're only voting AP based on meta. Why is that? He's been pretty pro-town in this game, scumhunting, applying pressure, and asking questions. I can't see him being scum unless you're scum with him and you're bussing him, though.

#notreading#obvious#hashtag

[Hiraki]

Hiraki - would you consider moving your vote onto any of the other wagons?

I have considered and no.

Also, RandomYoshi is a headdesk.

[Hiraki]

Derping.

[Hiraki]

Wagon-wise, I'd rather get rid of Lurker.

But that's literally the only reason why.

[Hiraki]

RY sounds nubtown to me.

Lurker is a town read but I'm more confident in my nubtown reads than my townreads.

I'd rather not lynch either of these people but you guys made this happen.

[Hiraki]

Yeah, I definitely did not like that last post.

Unvote, Vote: Lurker

Time to claim.

[Hiraki]

Ambigious.

[Hiraki]

Basically.

[Hiraki]

There's no inclination for a town player to be ambiguous. That's a suicide move.

While this is a game, a claim shouldn't be anything but serious. You're claiming for a reason.

[Hiraki]

Vote: IFM

No reason to delay now boys.

[Hiraki]

Either is fine but I had a little more preference on IFM due to the wagon yesterday.

[Hiraki]

No. I'm more of the out in the clear guy if I got a result. Sorry for the confusion.

[Hiraki]

I mean either or.

Unvote, Vote: Zdenek

[Hiraki]

Unvote, Vote: Absta

alright well fuck you guys

my scumlist is impeccable ap will die tomorrow after absta flips town etc. etc.

[Hiraki]

Bacde has improved considerably. I want Zed/Safety/IFM first.

[Hiraki]

Later he votes me, which makes this fucking awkward:

So, I'm scum because my initial reads might be wrong?

Right, let me see. I mean a read is totally better than a potential report.

But it could just as easily be from frustrated town.

I mean you got kind of close?

It was moreso "fuck you guys" in a chillpost style than a "FUCK YOU GUYS" in a rage manner.

Unvote, Vote: Zednek

Also, get out of trollmode. I'm not listening to you anymore.

[Hiraki]

Unvote, Vote: SafetyDance

SD>Zdenek=IFM>Bacde

[Hiraki]

yeah pathetic guys

mod doesn't agree with me so let's start a hissy fit

[Hiraki]

There is no town motivation for wanting to play a game by the rules outlined and agreed upon by everyone playing this site?

No, there's no town motivation for to get your tits up in a knot.

[Hiraki]

Oh my god can we just lynch one of these scumbags here and now?

[Hiraki]

Why exactly do peeps see IFM as scummy?

that unvote and revote after checking the VC seems classic town toes to me...

BFM

[Hiraki]

Oh thank god, Majiffy.

You can help me erase these scums, right?

Right?!?

[Hiraki]

Guys, I love that you're embracing my awesome ideas.

But let's do that in my order too, thanks.

[Hiraki]

@Maj - Greetings. Don't sheep Hiraki please.

Why not?

[Hiraki]

He's both and I'll take Zed.

Either is fine but I do have a preference on SD.

[Hiraki]

EWBOP:

unvote, Vote: Zed

Claim.

[Hiraki]

Unvote, Vote: SafetyDance

[Hiraki]

Habit.

[Hiraki]

EWBOP: Fuck off Trollcorrect.

Habbit.

[Hiraki]

WTF

I've been misspelling habit my entire life.

oh well

[Hiraki]

I feel that could go either way but I see your point.

Kasshoodles is my choice for today at that rate.

Unvote, Vote: Kasshoodles

[Hiraki]

Out of that list, I'd rather Kash or IFM--not that it wasn't blaringly obvious or anything.

[Hiraki]

I'm actually quite glad that RachMarie is killed because I'm usually wrong in reading her.

[Hiraki]

You're being so opportunistic it's ridiculous.

OR

OR

Process of Elimination.

[Hiraki]

Nay, nay. DGB.

[Hiraki]

I will add that Majiffy/Yoshi/Marangal have done collectively ZERO and now Majiffy is making pre-emptive excuses for future lurkage.

Stop looking for complicated explanations, scum doesn't get more butthurt and obvious than that.

-DGB

Blahblahblahblah

[Hiraki]

How about, don't listen to him and look back at me Majiffy.

You know you want to~

[Hiraki]

Hiraki I was supporting you, the fuck!?

I'm not a people person.

[Hiraki]

Ok, seriously lets get Majiffy

@Kashoodles what questions?

No.

hi guys!

can someone give me the tl;dr version of what is going on?

No.

You and Bacde are scum. Your partner Zed has been lynched and you/Bacde will die next.

SD keeps trying to mod-kill the town players who argue with him.

AP has claimed everything that can be claimed.

No.

that isn't what my role pm said am I replacing someone who was being a retard

state your case on this slot

I'm sorry but did you just call the person before you a retard and now you want the case on him, something you could attain by reading, and also you're trying to justify the actions of someone you absolutely have no clue about except their role? Please, let's stop being absolute idiots and let's play the game now, if you guys don't mind.

[Hiraki]

you thought he was town in the titanium one

Is this your new thing?

If it doesn't fit my view, then let me get out some meta that you know no one will check and isn't very reliable anyway but who gives a fuck?

[Hiraki]

Did you guys seriously write

10 fucking pages

in 24 hours

jesus

[Hiraki]

[Hiraki]

(n.b. after seeing that picture, that is not my drawing)

[Hiraki]

Quick, lynch Bacde before Pidgeon comes back!

-DGB

What if I told you

you're wrong due to obvious balance problems

and you just believed me

[Hiraki]

OK--since we're on a claim frenzy, I'm tracker.

Something is really screwy here.

[Hiraki]

Who the fuck claims a PR, unprompted, without claiming results? Bogus claim is bogus.

OR
OR

OR

because my results just kind of clear revenus/HD at this point for not shooting last night

and bacde for not shooting two nights ago

basically

my results are worth absolute shit

but absta requires death

Unvote, Vote: Absta

[Hiraki]

partially track cleared doesn't need to be bolded

i tracked you on n1

i mean it doesn't really confirm you at all

[Hiraki]

Edit: Then Hiraki is scum. Or scum pulled a gambit.

I know this is super meta and WIFOMy but I've never scumgambited with roles. I almost exclusively claim VT.

I think I did one decent game where I claimed Cop but that was all.

[Hiraki]

It should be more like:

(Absta/DRZ)/Hiraki

[Hiraki]

You should try nails.

That will help.

[Hiraki]

Bacde.

I redeemed you.

You must fight.

Or I will harm you

Unvote, Vote: IFM

Let's lynch scum, plz.

[Hiraki]

IFM has a greater potential.

[Hiraki]

xpost: ifm are you now claiming bodyguard? that changes everything. as in if you were a bg you would be dead if you successfully bodyguarded

Bodyguard = Doctor on the site we come from

Annoying as hell IMHO but I deal with it

I don't buy this. Why would he say doctor first?

[Hiraki]

IMF is

not

scum unless there's 4 scum.

Unvote, Vote: SafetyDance

[Hiraki]

EWBOP: I say that moreso because there was a kill and that IMF did not visit the kill. If there is 4 scum, IMF could be a PR if there is 4.

[Hiraki]

Ifm, do not anounce ur target btw

He visited me.

[Hiraki]

AP. Who did you target last night?

[Hiraki]

Outside of cheating, doesn't that strike as odd? Especially since he was knocked out before said doc claims?

Yeah, I'm going to suggest you never ever try to defend yourself again because this alone is absolute crap.

[Hiraki]

Outside of cheating, doesn't that strike as odd? Especially since he was knocked out before said doc claims?

Yeah, I'm going to suggest you never ever try to defend yourself again because this alone is absolute crap.

Pull that tracking beacon out of your arse.

A lying VT correctly pushes 2 scum wagons WITH NO REASONING and you think I'm crap? Also you must play on a different site to me where doc claims are worshipped like cows in India and never night-killed.

Wow, you really did put me in my place. Sure did prove me wrong bucko. Putting in your nom for a perfect-town scummy right now!

butthurtttttttttttttttttttt

You do realize that lying VT claim is next on my list right

so even if you aren't scum, I'll be tracking him right

and like the only way that I could be stopped is via a roleblocker which probably isn't in the setup

but continue to be butthurtttttt

[Hiraki]

I thought you meant AP which I mean you're totally being clear here.

Third sentence, nice exit strategy for my flip!

Are you really calling me scum?

How fucking dumb are you?

[Hiraki]

Let's just clear something up here.

AP was calling one of either the Nurse/Doc scum up above in the shit post I posted before.

Now, he's saying that I'm doing some mumbo jumbo planning.

That's a 5 player scum team. Please, continue to insult me with your idiotic nonsense. Perhaps the Manhood Academy would be a more suitable place for you.

[Hiraki]

There is no Ad Hom in any of the posts that I've posted today and if there's even a hint of it, then no one really cares about it because the main points are quite prevalent. Good job on doing a nice quick dodge on the question though.

[Hiraki]

can we just lynch this idiot

he literally quoted bbmolla as part as my adhom and quoted me calling him butthurt

because i'm sure that everyone will take that adhom super seriously

besides, ad hom is not asking a rhetorical question, calling something bad, and using an easy way to reference a post that I had originally called crap

[Hiraki]

no rachmarie is a good kill

she usually does good stuff when she's town

if we're going meta here than the only decent choice for rachmarie is dgb

[Hiraki]

but your accusations on me have been just ad hom and posts that don't make a lot of sense.

Can you pinpoint which posts don't make sense?

Because so far this is the first time I've heard this and no one else has said that my arguments are bad/not understandable. Even BBmolla has said that you've called 5 people scum. Can you please explain that this time?

[Hiraki]

EWBOP: Also, can you address that only one of your ad homs are actually ad hom or is highlighting cuss words your forte even if they're not ad hom.

[Hiraki]

3 scum have flipped. Here's what you have said.

Also, keeping a doctor/nurse alive? LOL

This infers that you think that one of the Nurse/Doctor is scum.

That's 3 scum.

For all we know there could be a Traitor. There's your four scum and opens up a possible reason why IFM didn't kill.

This is 4, as you yourself note.

Third sentence, nice exit strategy for my flip!

And here's me at the 5th Scum.

I actually don't care now because I've heard enough from you.

Because everything towards me has been an insult.

Except that half of the stuff that you quoted were just cuss words used to explain without quoting.

How fucking dumb are you?

This is Ad Hom. I have no problem with admitting it. No one is going to be convinced of my case though because I asked a question so sure, call it Ad Hom but that's like saying that I'm writing in English. Everyone knows it, no one really cares that much.

in the shit post I posted before.

This is referring, without quoting, to:

Outside of cheating, doesn't that strike as odd? Especially since he was knocked out before said doc claims?

Yeah, I'm going to suggest you never ever try to defend yourself again because this alone is absolute crap.

You're good with words (well, apparently) are shit and crap equal in terminology? Hell, this post isn't even referring to you, it's referring to my post about you but apparently that's super indirect Ad Hom.

1786 (i.e. the butthurt post) was a minimal portion of the post. Suspiciously, when I first posted that post, you had never brought up the idea of Ad Hom.

The last post you quoted, i.e. the one that I was referring to with the shit post, doesn't need to be explained because you there's literally no point for saying that and it's just dumb. I mean he claimed Cop when he was a VT. Why does it matter whatever he said? If Absta cheated, then someone would've figured that out by now.

I couldn't care less personally, duck off a water's back, but they're still ad homs and shouldn't be used to fluff a case up.

Meanwhile in hypocriteville:

I just expect people to have a better case than Hiraki's or HD's but that would be expecting too much.

I have nothing more to say to you.

And seriously, it's not like the only actual thing you've talked to me about today is Ad Hom except until this last post.

[Hiraki]

EWBOP: Top should be 2 Scum have flipped. My posts are still logically sound in that sense though.

[Hiraki]

Why do you need to read? That shit is for losersssss

Hiraki needs to fullclaim, with results and everything.

Yes, I already did.

Just to rephrase though:

N1, Bacde went nowhere.
N2, Revenus went nowhere.
N3, IFM visited me.

[Hiraki]

what ever happened to me exceeding or meeting expectations

[Hiraki]

Can we modkill him?

[Hiraki]

Could just lynch him.

Which isn't happening and I think I'm dying faster by reading his posts.

[Hiraki]

ILLITERATE MONKEYS

Master, did you call me?

-DGB

I had you're at least the dom in this relationship.

Mafia terms, of course.

[Hiraki]

HD went nowhere.

[Hiraki]

That leaves PM, Zoidberg, and BBMolla.

BBMolla replaced Revenus who visited no one N2.

So, I'm going with the PM/Zoidberg route. PM replaced Kash so this makes sense.

Vote: PirateMollie

[Hiraki]

Usually I'd say "lol wtf u doin saying that"

but I totally believe you

AP plz be nurse

[Hiraki]

Hmm.

Is Ninja a normal role?

[Hiraki]

Bacde went nowhere N1 and Rev went nowhere N2.

[Hiraki]

HD if you are a ninja

i will destroy you jakefromstatefarm

[Hiraki]

I mean sure but a 3 scum team with a SK isn't that bad of a setup either, right?

[Hiraki]

We're not doing red text. Pretty sure that got banned a looooong time ago.

[Hiraki]

just kidding guys HD is actually scum

just kidding

jk

lol jk

just joking

joking, i am

am i joking?

jokes on you!

[Hiraki]

AP plz

HD plz

someone plz