Mini 1433 - State Farm Mafia - Game over

[AngryPidgeon]

Hmmm, there is a wagon on me. That is bad for my win condition.

[AngryPidgeon]

I'll be honest, I haven't read much of this except the opening flavor which was kinda lolz. Im mostly here because I like the player list. I've had a busy week, buuuuut I should be able to catch up tonight.

I'm nursing a small cold, STILL. I hate flu season. I might even take work off tomorrow. Oooo, thats exciting.

[AngryPidgeon]

VOTE: Yoshi

For some reason Yoshi/Bacde not saying hi to me feels weird. WHY DO YOU HATE ME??

[AngryPidgeon]

Ok, I'll try not to penta-post so soon, but I will say that the IFM wagon is NOT my thing today. And since I admitted to having not read, you can all just go blue in the face trying to figure out the WIFOM behind that.

IFM, I'd appreciate if you gave me a pass for just today.

[AngryPidgeon]

Ok, well Im on like Page 3 and I want to vote absta a litle. Also lol'd at (and agreed with) Hiraki's first content post wrt absta.

Im going to call Hiraki town for 389 sounding genuine or something so he will like me and help me mislynch RY instead.

I'll make a reads list after P5~!

P-edit: Pfffff Hi Revenus. You town this game?

[AngryPidgeon]

I'ma just Vote: Revenus since it seems like no one else has noticed this scum

I thought Rev looked null-townish at this point. Was this a serious vote?

[AngryPidgeon]

Ok I read the first 5 pages. Here is roughly where I stand.

Selling quality state farm insurance

(town)

Zoidberg
SafetyDance
Kashoodles

Interning at state farm

(leaning town)

Bacde
Revenus
IFM? - I veto his lynch at least for Today, anyways.
Lurker

Committing insurance fraud

(mafia)

absta101
Zdenek (Xegarus)
Yoshi (Ms Marangal)

Everyone else (everyone else):
RachMarie
Hiraki - take back my townread, I feel I usually get a moderate townread on Hiraki when he is town. I really don't feel anything here. His post to me was aggressive and unexpected, but Hiraki is capable of that shit as maf so I'm just going to sit on the fence about this one.

[AngryPidgeon]

Also Im at L - 2, dont quick hammer me, yadda yadda. 1 week DL.

[AngryPidgeon]

Ugh, I typed up a response then had to run. On phone.

-no, lol
-dunno, but I saw you/bacde online and I expected someone to greet me or scum hunt me, yknow?
-don't know everyone and only saw you 2 online.
-lurker read based on p5

[AngryPidgeon]

But you are scum, my vote is well placed : ). Unlsss you wanna bus absta/Zd, that would be fun. Plus they have votes already.

[AngryPidgeon]

And lurker is town as hell based on 363.

Hi Bacde !

Who are your top scumbags?

[AngryPidgeon]

just looked at 363

I don't think agreeing with your top townreads is a towntell tbh

I honestly hadn't noticed. Its town because of what the post lacks. Hes not posturing or overjustifying anything.

Bacde, you feel more serious this game and leadery-its a lil weird. But im leaving town on you - gut. Paranoid though.

Why do you think yoshi is town?

DGBs post ^ is interesting.

I might be convinced to wagon hiraki. But yeh, lemme catch up tonight.

[AngryPidgeon]

^^town

This was a good post.

I don't give a crap if IFM is my neighbor, he's my vote.

Oh, lol. I didn't realize my slot had claimed that. But ya, IFM is my neighbor. I like setup spec (Im actually pretty good at it) and I'm brewing up a nice cup of decaf mod WIFOM. But I don't want to lynch IFM until I can talk in our QT at least tonight. Also the IFM replace-in post was prob town as Bacde pointed out.

Oh god I hope 144 is the last post of that size/uselessness that Kash has made. Seriously, I can't bring myself to read random IIoA responses to fucking everything that has happened and it comes off as scummy because of how unnecessary it is. And all that PewPewing on my slot and implying its scummy and not voting it.

how much I despise you.

Also anyone who had a scumread on KBW: hand over your "Im a respectable town player" cards (if you are town). He was such an arrogant ass and from a newish player that is a mega mega towntell. Really, that guy was obvtown. I would have pegged him as a obv VT too (but I knew my role before reading any of this, so any opinion I have on him is biased, I know)

extremely childish. I wouldn't say this is 100% scummy,

Yes, it is anti-town. Its also a really strong town tell and is not at all scummy but some people like to think that town players are 'logical' and will behave more 'soundly' than scum players. Wrong. But ya, KBW was a VI.

arbitrarily picked someone to bully

Ok, this reads really off to me. I would have expected town-Rev to OMGUS or otherwise take it personally. This just feels like he is trying to justify a KBW vote and imply that all his VI tells are scummy.

155 looks like objectively good policy on the surface, but assuming IFM and I are both town is actually scummy as hell. I also really don't like that Rev is ignoring absta in this game.

Okay, now you're a strong scum read. Using the 'noob card' like this is something I've done before as scum.

If I wasn't voting Keyblade I'd be voting you.

UNVOTE: ; VOTE: Absta
I take back anything I said about voting someone else. We're lynching absta today. Unless you all want to lynch me today and him tomorrow; I leave you with those 2 options.

Lol and Xeg omguses absta straight away like a good scum buddy.
Ok, Im pretty sure Kash is town and I hate reading his walls (hypocrisy I know), so Im just going to skim them from now on.

After 170, I wouldn't be horribly shocked if the scum team were Absta/Revenus/Xegarus(is that Zd now?)

He's not afraid to look anti town, other wise he would have changed long ago, this looks pretty town to me or at the very least not mafia.

Ironically, the mafia player is the one that gets it. And distances from absta with the opinion.

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tl;dr

Sorry for the spam wall (But Im getting excited here). I think Revenus/Absta/Xegarus would be my top ponies right now. MY RY read is/was based entirely on Ms Marangal.
-KBW was obv VI
-IFM looks really town
-Absta is confirmed scum

I'll read up more later and try not to spam as much.

[AngryPidgeon]

Put me on V/LA please

[AngryPidgeon]

Hey IFM, I see you site-lurking, lets talk! Well, kinda. Im not 100% free until a bit later. But I'm town and I think you are town and it would be a tragedy if we lynched one of us today. Would you have any interest in lynching Revenus/Zdenek/absta?

I did a ISO skim of Zdenek so I could feed my confirmation bias. I did; hes maf.

[AngryPidgeon]

Im trying to distance from Xeg whilst simultaneously helping him ML you, duh.

Well, Zd does have more votes right now. I'll finish my reread before I commit to anything else.

[AngryPidgeon]

He's literally not aggressive at all.

I'm not? Wut.

Also I just replaced in, LOL. Didn't I have this exact conversation in 1408 after replacing in? Except with Bacde instead of Hiraki? And instead of being town I was scum?

[AngryPidgeon]

Ok, Im at the top of page 13. I'll make a nice little tie-my-feelings-together post after I get back from the gym, woo.

BEF/IMF
Revenus
Lurker

I really really really don't see scum-Lurker. I would be more than happy to purge Rev from the game though. Why do you think IMf is scummy?

Spoiler: Mostly fluff posting

xeg xeg xeg he's our man

lynch lynch lynch cuz thats our plan

You are one of my fav people to play with for posts like this. Although I am kinda hoping I can get you to vote Xeg after I finish catching up : P

Also, LOL. Revenus is so fucking scum. I would shoot that so fast. Dr.Zoid and I are gonna roll this game. I keep giggling every time I read an absta/rev/xeg post because they really are such an obvious team this game. Revenus is QQscum. Xeg is flailing scum. Absta is tryhard megabussing scum.

When did I imply getting off xeg again? Putting words where they don't exist?

Thank god you didn't say mouth.. after that first sentence.

I still think keyblade is scum.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrjwaqZfjIY (but you're still prob town imo)

@KetchupGuy

: I think you are town. Not my most firm townread this game, but still pretty solid. I really really really don't want to lynch lurker right now. I'm sorry, but I just don't think hes scum. He reads like busy / apologetic town who is lightly derping due to inactivity. I'm pretty sure the scumteam is Zdenek/Absta/Revenus. If Im wrong about any of those my backups would be RachMarie/Hiraki, but those are pretty much nullville. I almost said nulltown, but then realized that would have been confusing. BRBBBBBB

[AngryPidgeon]

Urg, I'll try to keep an open mind wrt Lurker, but his post where he calmly explained why he did everything he did read really genuine to me.

[AngryPidgeon]

Random Yoshi:

Ya, post 344 is an awfully scummy post. And on a similar note, I'm really not liking RY's interactions with absta and Revenus. 'In case' its a town/scum relationship?

Whats the point of asking that?

It just doesn't feel natural.

RY,

what is your DRZMD read and why?

(Bullet points are fine).

Why don't you have a single strong scumread?

Why is that scummy behavior? Is it not possible for town-Lurker to not have any strong reads? (Note he IS voting his 'strongest' read)

Revenus:

You're going to have to excuse me, but this is an obvtown post? For real?

This post wasn't obv-town I suppose (I exaggerate from time to time). But this post was pretty town looking.

363 DOES look town though. Lurker isn't trying to appease anyone. Its like how RY voted him for not having any 'scum' reads and only light scum reads. Scum-lurker is more likely to pad his reads list in a way to avoid that sort of crappy suspicion. Its the same way I id'd Darthe as town in NY159 for going all D2 without voting anyone. Its just a small thing that people WILL call you scummy for and that scum players WILL avoid doing for that reason. Also he doesn't bother justifying any of those reads very much which gives me town vibes for the same reason. WIFOM, etc.

Gets a leading wagon and decides to V/LA, idle himself out of the game

You do realize this is also why people thought BEF was scum, right?

Gets a leading wagon, and decides to replace out of the game? Nice posturing though, and its nice of you to conf-town IFM like this.

absta i'm expecting to replace out so I haven't actually been paying that much attention to him

And you can't determine his slot's alignment from absta's posts in the meantime?

I see that you are willing to vote Xeg based on Xeg's post despite Xeg ALREADY HAVING REPLACED OUT. In fact, you even said as much in the exact same post.

Oh my god, this is such a bad post.

Bad as in scummy?

If so, why? If not, no need to justify.

@Bacde:

Re scum crossvoting: I have no idea, depends on the players I suppose. Like Im probably more likely to do it than the average bear.
If you are referring to absta/Zdenek though, I'm now hedging for RY as scum over Zdenek.

@Dr.Zoid:

Guaranteed town mindset.

Be careful with that DGB, I don't think that post from absta was _that_ townie. Its not like posting that as scum takes much creativity. In fact, its a pretty easy mindset to try and fake and he was very deliberate about posting it. Most 'towntells' like that are only valid if the person posting it isn't aware they are posting something that looks townie.

@absta:

In post 377

did you mean neighbor to be a PR?

@Kash:

Feel better : ). I think Im mostly over my flu/cold.

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tl;dr + random concluding thoughts I forgot to say:

I like RY for scum now that I have read up to and through him replacing in.
Zdenek looks more town than Xeg did by a long shot. Also I suck at reading Xeg, so I'll count on my Zd read for now.
I need more content from Rach - I have literally nothing on her at all.
I'm going to ISO Rach/Hiraki/Bacde in particular over the weekend.

Spoiler: Updated Reads

Strong town reads

: Dr.Zoid, Kash, Safety Dance

Moderate town reads:

Lurker, Bacde, IFM

No idea

: RachMarie, Zdenek, Hiraki

Scummy

: Revenus, absta, Yoshi

[AngryPidgeon]

Yeah, that's because i'm town. Why are you avoiding scum?

Bacde is avoiding your wagon because you are town? But hes also avoiding a scum wagon?

What do you mean with the bolded?

DGB thinks you are town for saying you are ok with being lynched if we lynched kash/Xeg after. I'm saying I don't think that was a towntell on your end. Its a very easy thing to posture on and I don't see any train of thought that leads to you throwing that out there. Its possible you said it as town, but the context around it all does not make me think you are towntelling like DGB seems to think.

[AngryPidgeon]

If you guys are gonna lynch or wagon me, at least come up with a case beyond meta/gut. Seriously.

And you can't determine his slot's alignment from absta's posts in the meantime? I see that you are willing to vote Xeg based on Xeg's post despite Xeg ALREADY HAVING REPLACED OUT. In fact, you even said as much in the exact same post.

You do realize this is also why people thought BEF was scum, right?

Clarification: You said that KBW was scum for lurking under pressure. You also said that the case on BEF is shitty because he replaced out under pressure:

I want to know WHY IFM's slot is still being wagoned when most of the reasons for voting him are based off "oh BEF nubscum replaced".

[AngryPidgeon]

I see Rach is Qing for more games >.>

[AngryPidgeon]

Well Bacde and Zoid want to lynch RY. And I want to lynch RY. And Bcde/Zoid are two people I'm pretty confident about being town.

[AngryPidgeon]

The reason Revenus is back to null is due to how he took his attention and established the arguably biggest bandwagon in terms of reads and effens on the game: KBW.

Spoiler:

Absta feels the exact opposite as absta from 1408. Not sure how to qualify that exactly, and ya I know being conftown is different than not. But his push on Xeg feels forced (zero paranoia all game about this read; can't stop mentioning it?). I also don't like his idea of lynching from the neighborhood as good policy which he promptly took back it seems.

We are nearing deadline. I'd like votes from Rach, Hiraki, Lurker on relevant people.

Rach's one post felt really odd to me. Hiraki seems town.

[AngryPidgeon]

no one else found it scummy of Revenus to say he isn't bothering to read absta since he will replace out, but hes willing to vote Xrg's slot based purely on Xeg's posts? why is Revenus incapable of reading absta's posts to get a read on the SLOT?

Unvote: absta
Vote: RandomYoshi

[AngryPidgeon]

Revenus is probably my top pick for scum right now. RY 2nd. Not lynching lurker today. Be back after work.

[AngryPidgeon]

Not much happening here. Add RachMarie to the list of people I'm willing to vote today; her posts feel off. I'm having a hard time explaining this read, but she just feels different than when I've played with Town-Rach. A lot of her posts are common sense/IIoA this game and she isn't speaking as forcefully as she was in her brief time with me in Popcorn mafia (open 484?).

Revenus is an excellent vote still.

I wish Hiraki and I were on the same page about anything this game. I don't see any of his wagons that I would really support that much.

Lurker is a compromise lynch. IMO a shitty compromise lynch. But if it comes to DL, I'll vote it. Would MUCH rather RY/Revenus/Rach

[AngryPidgeon]

Hiraki, it would be cool to hear you monologue about RachMArie's alignment for a bit.

[AngryPidgeon]

Hiraki, it would be cool to hear you monologue about RachMArie's alignment for a bit.

give me a minimum word limit and you've got it

100? Doesn't need to be too long. I know we have played with her before. She feels awkward/out-of-place this game which may not be scummy, but my eyebrows are just raised in her direction this game for reasons Im having trouble understanding. I'd still prefer to lynch RY/Revenus for sure, but Rach feels like shes not trying to find scum I guess.

[AngryPidgeon]

Ugh, I am second guessing myself all over this game. Ok, im going on a layup of faith that dgb, hiraki, and ifm are town.

Kash/SD might have a scum. Im mega tempted to sheep Hirakis RY townread. Bacde is bacde.

Rach posting selfmeta is more likely town than not. Kind of thinking zd town still.

Ry, revenus, bacde, kash/sd?, absta, lurker. Im going to pull the lead out and try and get a harder stance on these peeps tonight.

Phonepost.

P.s. SD's attempts at compromise recently feel off; like I know hes capable of getting frustrated over annoying/bad play and he doesn't feel like he really is, but kind of implies he is. If that made sense to anyone.

[AngryPidgeon]

Tl;dr: I wanna win game, but Idk who scum are .

Honestly wondering if ry/lurker are both town. Sd/absta/revenus? Bacde, Im going to come up with some topics to discuss with you 1 on 1 like. Need to iso: bacde, sd tonight. Others can wait.

[AngryPidgeon]

Not sure if ballsy/desperate scum or derping.

[AngryPidgeon]

[AngryPidgeon]

Ok lurker is town town town. I guarantee it. I FUCKING guarantee a townflip from lurker.

[AngryPidgeon]

Lurker feels genuine in every post he makes. He shiws an inherent town mindset in his train of thoughts and although he hasn't been incredibly active, he is not appealing to anybody or overjustifying his actions or actually doing anything scummy. I feel pretty strongly that lurker is just frustrated town right now.

RandomYoshi I'm less sure about it. Of the two, might vote is staying here. I want to run some ISOs in the next couple hours but absta is still absurdly scummy this game. And Im feeling more confident about ZD town.

[AngryPidgeon]

Lurker claimed 3rd party? Ok, I can get on board with that then.

VOTE: Lurker

[AngryPidgeon]

If lurker flips town, Im going to be pissed.

Someone protect me tonight! I'll love you forever.

[AngryPidgeon]

Really? I recall you saying 'never suffer scum to live' in the "Should claimed SKs be leashed" thread

[AngryPidgeon]

I am in the thread. I didn't actually do the ISOing I promised I would. Im going to lurk for a bit, see what happens this grand sunday, and make a post with content later.

I don't think IFM is maf.

[AngryPidgeon]

VOTE: Absta

So what were you up to last night?

[AngryPidgeon]

^ I'm not able to comment more on that. But I believe you are more likely to get upset/annoyed when you are town and lynches aren't going your way (we have similar playstyles in that regard I think) and I felt your reaction to the RY wagon was weird. Totally gut case, I know. But I definitely gut read players better who play similarly to me (Vifam in ny161).

[AngryPidgeon]

1. I'm VT, so nothing.

2. AP is a "neighbour guy", he wouldn't have seen any actions.

Why claim then if you are sure that I don't have any information?

[AngryPidgeon]

What the hell is going on this game, lol.

I do not want a quick lynch today.

[AngryPidgeon]

UNVOTE:

My brain and absta's claim post are going to get together and have a pow-wow. I'll let you guys know how that goes.

Right now my double back up scumdar wants to say its Bacde/SafetyDance/{Revenus?/Hiraki???} Mmm, Ugh, Hiraki is actually aware of his scum play in a way that always makes me uncomfortable with thinking hes town ever.

[AngryPidgeon]

Dat scumslip. How do you know the neighbors are town/town?

Also Bacde is fucking mafia isn't he? He would try to kill me.

[AngryPidgeon]

Asking me to explain my case to you and simultaneously refuting it :/

Revenus, you look like scum bro - Scum Shamrock accused me of dat confirmation bias in mini 1365(?) shortly before flipping scum. /irony.

You are saying Bacde is scummy for sheeping me onto Absta because Bacde should know better than to think that TOWN NEIGHBOR ANGRY P has a night role. Unless you saying 'Bacde's response is scummy' / 'town neighbors likely don't have abilities' was toootally unrelated. In which case, wut.

I'm going to read a bit more and maybe post my summary tonight. Really leaning Bacde; paranoia, etc but his "I'll trust you a little bit, but Im still suspicious of you because I lost to you recently" feels fake even if he was joking (was he, I couldn't tell, lol). I don't like him trying to buy townpoints for the lurker wagon. I also don't like him just buying that I had a guilty. If absta is maf, hes pretty damn unlikely to be making the scumkill since a lot of people want his head - hes track/jk/rb bait. Anyways, unless Bacde thinks I actually saw him go somewhere and didn't just claim outright for some reason (?) then I don't know what he thinks I'm up to, lol. Pretty unlikely that scum-absta fake claims VT as an RB or RC or whateva.

And yes my confirmation bias tingles at Revenus also picking up on Bacde's weird apparent desire to just QL it today (does Bacde even have a townread on me?, who knows)

[AngryPidgeon]

AP was in that game so its weird to me that he is pushing the idea that a neighbor would never have a night action

I'm not, but I thought Revenus was making a point out of that. When did I base anything on that?

I did some random reading and ISO reviewing just before going to sleep. I'm pretty sure I'm right about my Kash/DrZmd townreads. Absta is weird in a flailing kind of way, but I could also see town just being frustrated that no one will vote his top read (which hes really sure of, but eh). Hiraki feels pretty town; that said, I will never just trust myself with a Hiraki townread because hes too good at scum but Im going to roll with that right now. Xegarus looked scummy but he also looked similarly scummy to me in 124 shortly before I mislynched the shit out of him (as town/town) so ya. Zdenek seems townish, light read though.

The only people I'm not seeing as prob/likely town are: Revenus, Bacde, SaferyDance, RachMarie (slight town lean here). RY is also a little off, but I'd rather pursue other people.

[AngryPidgeon]

I kind of want to lynch Bacde. I'll explain more when I can. Ugh, Im in too many gamez. Hiraki/absta/revenus seem to support that right now. Dunno about Zoid

[AngryPidgeon]

You're original wagon (which you're now distancing from) was not the night kill either.

Huh? There was no NK - what are you talking about?

[AngryPidgeon]

What towntell did you think you saw?

Killing a pidgeon only makes its reads better.

[AngryPidgeon]

Mmm, I see where you are coming from. I find it odd as hell that hes talking about NKs though. "That person wasn't the NK either?" So who was the NK / what is he implying, lol?

[AngryPidgeon]

Zoid, would you support a Bacde lynch?

[AngryPidgeon]

Would lurker flipping town have been any different?

Oh I think I see what you are saying - I White Knighted a scummy looking 'town' player. Well, I didn't, trollol.

Gee, Zdenek's last couple posts are making me triple guess _that_ read.

I support the question to DrZmd.

Why is Hiraki saying absta is town really awkward? Did Kash talk about an absta/Zd team?

[AngryPidgeon]

oh NM, DrZMD was just trolling.

[AngryPidgeon]

Zdenek, whats your opinion on SafetyDance / why?

[AngryPidgeon]

Ok, don't take his shit out of context though. He was clearly frustrated and implying that the wagon on absta was happening despite what _should_ be happening. Is his trolling / going against his read scum-motivated? Possibly. But it could just as easily be from frustrated town.

[AngryPidgeon]

Lol, no. I watch games, Im in games, Im not talking about where my read is coming from eof.

Im in hyper-troll mode this game and I love it.

[AngryPidgeon]

VOTE: Zdenek for now (L-4)

[AngryPidgeon]

So...you support Zdenek votes then?

[AngryPidgeon]

Wait, wtf. Ok. Phone post here:
Hiraki is probtown for attitude.
Revenus is scum, because he accused kbw of

arbitrarily

choosing him to pick on when town rev would have taken that personally. Ffs.
Zoids swift flip on rev/Zd is weird.
Hiraki was right about bacdes response looking town.
Kash is obvtown still.
RY, dunno, not extremely suspicious.
Rach can be town, sure, why not

Zoid...?....??

[AngryPidgeon]

Welp, Id bet on Zdenek/Zoid/Revenus team.

I srsly need to go to sleep, but its so hard when a game finally clicks in ur head.

[AngryPidgeon]

Mmm, ok. I can explain some of my trolling, I just rolled my fav PR and I'm giddy cause I'm conftown in my head.

Im a 1 shot bulletproof town.

(In addition to being a neighbor)

So Im pretty sure I am the reason why there was no NK last night. Im also suspicious of Zoid a little bit because I expected them to die last night. My crap about wanting to be protected was just WIFOM to imply I was a big PR.

All of my crap today about 'killing pidgeons' and 'Bacde would kill me' is light trolling for reactions cause I'm pretty sure my 1xBP sponged the scum NK last night. Oh, that was also part of my decision to quick hammer lurker since Im only 1 shot.

Also, my vote on absta was just to see how other people reacted. I'm actually certain that absta isn't hiding anything after skimming last night. So I'm

behind

absta-town for now.

[AngryPidgeon]

I like how your case on me is meta still. Ok then.

Not exactly. I definitely understand people better after having played with them (and I will admit that I've not read anything of yours outside of 1408). I'ts not a meta case though (knowing your playstyle DOES strengthen my opinion on it a little bit), but I would say this of any number of people if they had done the same thing you did. KBW was clearly being a douche and trying to PL you / call you a VI. A LOT OF PEOPLE would take that personally (I KNOW I WOULD HAVE). So you csating it off (once) by saying that he just random picked you essentially to tunnel on as a scumtactic is reeeaaaaaallly weird because my gut reaction would have been to fight fire with fire - not say that hes lying about hating me and that his push is clearly scum motivated. And you aren't a pushover. Thats all I need to know to know your reaction is off.

[AngryPidgeon]

Couple quick things:
@Safety:

I never ever said that I was making a meta case on you based on ongoing games

.

I'm not

. Its not even really a meta read; it is in the sense that my case on Revenus is.

I just happen to think I understand your personality/playstyle which is something I can pick up from not even knowing your alignment and reading a game of yours.

Now, that one sentence that is causing all this fuss was a really offhanded remark by me that was a large part a note to myself to look into that thought more when I had time. Your reaction is to pin my own logic on me which is

[AngryPidgeon]

Why claim...?

What if someone else got protected or someone JKd? What does your claim do for us?

Eh. I am feeling entitled because I have reason to believe that I was killed (which makes me think at least one of my reads was right-on). I've been soft claiming it and lightly trolling for reactions all Day so it wasn't like scum couldn't figure it out.

VOTE: SafetyDance

It's pretty obv.

-DGB

Dear Dr. Zoidberg. The rest of the town may be content to let you pretend to be too carefree to back your bullshit up, but Im pretty sure you are scum. You were a universal townread and came out of last night alive when I was most certain you would die. Also your reasons for flip-floppng on Revenus look like scum posts.

So, I want a good answer, why is SD scum? Why wasn't it apparent before?

Also, Zdenek is mafia. Lynch it lynch it lynch it.

Also also - RY is site-flaking atm.

[AngryPidgeon]

Spoiler: Bacde, you know you wanna help me with this one

Ok, Bacde is full of shit.

5. AngryPidgeon, Mafia Roleblocker, alive in Endgame

You're so full of shit.

5. Zdenek, Mafia Roleblocker, Lynched Day 2

[AngryPidgeon]

^ Errr, JUST TO BE CLEAR THAT QUOTE FROM THE MOD DID NOT HAPPEN; I AM MAKING A JOKE AND COMPARISON BETWEEN MY/ZD's SCUM PLAY.

Im not trying to impersonate the mod, just making a comparison/prediction.

[AngryPidgeon]

Maybe they no-killed on purpose. There are lots of equally plausible

Yes, scum no killed last night. Thats totally equally plausible. Wuuuuuuuuuuuut.

I originally had a meta-based scumread on Revenus but his play has come more into line with what I would expect from town-revenus

So Revenus's VERY FEW posts today totally subverted your read on him from scumscumscum to towntowntown? Like all the stuff he posted yesterday doesnt matter anymore and the stuff he posted today has X-infinity more weight?

The bolded is not town looking really.

[AngryPidgeon]

DGB is very capable of being aggressive/caustic as scum.

She is justifying why she wasnt killed by suggesting a nokill and simultaneously saying im dumb.

They are scum.

[AngryPidgeon]

What ZD or SD? I wouldn't be horribly opposed to SD, but I'm def leaning ZD right now.

[AngryPidgeon]

You'll note I didn't say it was likely.

You said "equally plausible" as an explanation as to why YOU weren't killed. You listed a bunch of possible night things that were 'equally likely'. Equally likely to what? Me getting targeted and sponging the bullet?

The response feels reallllly off because it doesn't make sense in context of what I as accusing you of, really. Its like you are assuming that I was in fact shot at but acknowledging that there are other things that may have happened.

Im not hiding jackshit. I'm 1x BP and I probably got targeted last night.

[AngryPidgeon]

Did I use the phrase "equally likely"?

equally plausible

Girl, please. I think your team is afraid of me. <3

[AngryPidgeon]

I really hope that no one notices just how sideways my AP suspicion is cause hes really obviously town and we even tried to kill him last night, and I just don't have it in my heart to post like Im town so I m just going to argue semantics that ultimately don't mean much. I mean, FFS, I told AP that his point was shit and he is scum, but apparently I don't believe that because I can't stop arguing minor details about his points and acknowledging his points which I said were shitty.

tl;dr: EQUALLY plausible. The qualifier mattes too, honey. And it very much implies that probability of all the events in question was roughly EQUAL.

[AngryPidgeon]

Girl, I can read into subtext that you haven't even posted yet.

But you are just going to kill me tonight, so thats cool. Can I at least get you to bus Zdenek?

[AngryPidgeon]

True, this argument is kind of pointless and it won't reach anyone prolly. But I just wanna call you adorable or something.

tl;dr: Your response is unnatural. If you really thought I was scum / thought my point was 100% useless, you wouldn't be so worked up about defending from it.

[AngryPidgeon]

Also also I will admit Im making some assumptions here and you aren't really lynchable right now, so I'd rather lynch someone else {ZD/Rev/SD} and see what happens tonight.

[AngryPidgeon]

^ Literally this post.

Ya, ya, RY. I dunno man. I guess I changed my mind; I think hes more likely derp than scum (but both of those options are equally plausible). You didn't find my absta 180 as interesting?

Lets lynch Zdenek. If he flips town, I'll buy you all a nice dinner. (Thats not betting, is it )

P-edit: Ya, I figure hes getting replaced and I'm kinda trusting Hiraki's judgment on this one right now. Also I just found other people scummier in hindsight. Like Revenus dude. Read ANY post by that dude and tell me that its likely that there is a PM in his box that says "You are town; Do protown things"

[AngryPidgeon]

I know a fair bit of modding rules cause I sleep with a long time mod who is both a pedant and has OCD....

This is pretty funny.

[AngryPidgeon]

Err, why NOT claim it as scum? It effectively gives you a pass for not getting NKd.

And it is interesting enough to not get quick hammered.

Sure, its also easily maf claiming actual role, but so are other claims.

[AngryPidgeon]

Ok, looks like that was a hammer.

Im thinking Bacde/Zoid/Rev are my 'most likely scum' picks right now. Sd is weird. Majiffy will be obviously something or other by the end of Tomorrow.

I think Im going to look into Safety Dance a little tonight. Like I'm pretty sure hes town, but I just wanna feel better about that read and see if I can't find anything that was hiding before.

[AngryPidgeon]

Which I then proceeded to be called scum for by AP because he's reading current games and he thinks that's how I play (which is apparently similar to him).

Ok, what am I accusing you of then? If my read is clearly a meta read, what meta tell am I claiming to be using on you?

Past tense, w/e, I just want to know what you POSSIBLY think I was saying because my post was shitty and it was mostly a reminder to me to look into YOUR REACTIONS TO THE WAGONS.

[AngryPidgeon]

Ugh, lets drop it. I'm town and obviously so. Hopefully you will be too.

[AngryPidgeon]

I am highly considering a SD vote.

[AngryPidgeon]

Also, Hiraki is town.

[AngryPidgeon]

Dr. Zoid, is it you or Bacde that is mafia with SD?

[AngryPidgeon]

Hard confirmed town list eh.

DGB, you aren't confessing to having your hand in ye olde cookie jar last night right to my face are you?

[AngryPidgeon]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. DGB, if you aren't fucking with me right now then I might call a SD/Bacde team and skip off down the yellow brick road.

[AngryPidgeon]

Phonepost: SD is not confirmed town.

I will explain when I can, but Im getting private sexy cuddling times irl tonight, so thisll wait :p.

I leave you with this: I definitely expected you to see things my way. Who else would you say could? Honestly I think SD is scum because of the Rach kill.

My answer to the above is Bacde for sure. Unsure about others.

[AngryPidgeon]

Errr, I was hoping I could keep trolling the scum team today, but I will likely have to full claim tomorrow.

DrZoid..You are smart. Im a lil weirded out that you aren't seeing the implications of the Rach kill. Assume SD is scum.

[AngryPidgeon]

I realize my logic on SD scum is a bit circular then, but the Rach kill makes almost no sense.

[AngryPidgeon]

I don't think Kash is scum. I really think its SD. If scum is setting me up with the Rach kill to think this, then GFG. Or they just rando-killed in which case, trollol.

Ok, so here is my spiel. I am not a 1x Bulletproof.

My 1xBP was just a ruse. I was dropping hider crumbs all day so that the scum team would pick up on it:

Spoiler: Various crumbs

certain that

absta isn't hiding

anything after skimming last night. So I'm behind absta-town for now.

I have reason to believe that I was killed

Im not

hiding

jackshit.

The idea was to try and bait the scumteam to kill my target tonight since I was pretty sure they would see my crumbs and think that I was gambiting with my claim 1xBP to get them to shoot me again:

I think Im going to look into Safety Dance a little tonight. Like I'm pretty sure hes town, but I just wanna feel better about that read and see if I can't find anything that was hiding before.

I crumbed a hide on absta night 1. Here is the silly part though. I'm not actually a hider either.

Im a Jack of all Trades {1xHide, 1xDoctor, 1xTrack}.

On night 1 I hid behind absta. On night 2 I protected SD (since I expected him to get killed because of my hide crumbs on him). Now, the Rach kill is like reaaaaaalllly out of place. I can't for the life of me imagine why she would get NK'd over the people that were actually big townreads for everyone (and shes VT too, so). Oh wait, yes I can! SD is scum and the RM NK would create a lot of WIFOM when AP flips

Town Hider

alongside VT RM. Because lets face it, I crumbed the shit out of that hide and it was pretty clear to anyone paying attention that I was gunning for SD. I know for a fact that Bacde and Zoidberg picked up on my crumbs. And I have meta of being a hider in an open game in which I said I was going to hide behind a player and then lied and hid elsewhere so that argument could also have been used to protect SD from the implications of my death.

RachMarie is one of the few people that I would have reasonably hid behind which explains why she died - to make SD less suspicious as a result of my crumbs.

DZMD feels so off to me this game and I don't like how quick they were to call SD conftown. I mean I appreciate the hustle, but you weren't even remotely suspicious of what I may have done since I was clearly being deceptive as fuck in the first place with my BP claim? I just want you to know that I may have miscalculated slightly with my SD crumbs, but I'm like 95% on SD being scum as a result, so. I'm always 2 steps ahead of you DGB and don't forget it ,

ALSO. If Bacde is scum then SD is DEFINITELY scum. I will lynch SD over Bacde Today because if Bacde/SD were scum/town, then Bacde would have to be a step ahead of me in my crazy gambit land. And I refuse to believe that.

TL;DR

: Im a Joat {Hide on absta N1, doc on SD N2, unused track}. The scumteam clearly bought my hider story last night because they killed RM and her death makes no sense otherwise unless SD is scum and they were trying to cover for him looking bad on my flip. Zoid/Bacde are the 2 people that I am 100% certain saw my BP claim for the BS that it was and would have picked up on the hider thing. But I think SD needs to go.
VOTE: SafetyDance

[AngryPidgeon]

Not feeling the suspicion towards me.

Spoiler:

You know I love you AP but you may be overestimating your adversaries.

Either that or I'm right on the money.

So I'd kill whoever I'd normally kill anyway, and bus the living daylights out of my surviving buddy for town cred. I'd made sure to be first in line, and nightkill the hider next time he breadcrumbs hiding behind a townie for a 2-for-1.

Ok. I was in a game where scum clearly killed HavingFitz BECAUSE they 'knew' I was targeting their buddy and Fitz was the one kill that could mitigate that.

Meh. I'm not seeing anyone with town-boner for Rach.

This is my point. Rach was basically a null read at best for everyone. Why NK someone that no one think is prob town?

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I am 100% serious about Bacde/SD not being scum/town. If Bacde is scum then I am 100% sure that SD is scum.

[AngryPidgeon]

Bacde, how sure are you about SD scum?

Also, I still don't see IFM/Kash scum. I would infinitely rather lynch SD or even Revenus/Bacde/Zoid. And Im leaning scum Zoid over scum Bacde right now.

[AngryPidgeon]

He dropped a scum slip about the night kill.

kashoodles can you explain the above?

-DGB

He did by the way. This was SD talking to me about RY and he apparently meant to say "RY wasn't the lynch either" but he said "Ry wasn't the NK either" and it was confusing at first until he explained it.

[AngryPidgeon]

The story I am referencing is evidence of a scumteam doing exactly what you are saying they shouldn't/wouldn't do and Im pretty sure you don't have any counter examples, so tellmemore.jpg.

[AngryPidgeon]

Majiffy is someone I'm less opposed to lynching than others. I could see that slot slipping by me. But my confirmation bias is tingling so heavily in your direction.

[AngryPidgeon]

What I actually need to do is reread pages like 1-15

[AngryPidgeon]

Lol ^. If Bacde is scum, then SD is definitely scum.

@Zoid: Ok. I'll keep an open mind when/if I do that reread. But you saying "I could have shot my scum buddy SD", "I could have shot Majiffy because ???", and "I could have shot Bacde" and then saying "But no, I decided to be protown" is ???

None of that proves anything about your alignment - that is just speculation on people you may have killed that aren't RM. And if you were scum, you would have killed SD if he were town. Without a doubt.

[AngryPidgeon]

Also you keep tossing RM around like she made sense as an obvious safe kill for scum and simultaneously saying it would have been retarded of you to kill her. What the fuck. I want things my way today. I want to lynch my first scum-hydra.

[AngryPidgeon]

The "thinking straight" business.

Might help if I were actually straight.

Hi SD.

[AngryPidgeon]

I have no idea how you're so sure Bacde and I have to be of the same alignment, so I'm sheeping DZMD's #952

If Bacde is scum, he would have known (I am 100% certain of this) that I was crumbing a hide on you last night. If you were town, he would have killed you.

[AngryPidgeon]

Is this another meta-thing? How sure are you that you're not just invoking WIFOM?

I am literally 100% certain. Bacde rolled scum in my modded game and correctly guessed that Yates was fakeclaiming Cop as a hider and adjusted his NK accordingly. He confessed that he figured it out partly because I always talk about the time I rolled hider in a game. And he knows its my favorite role and I claimed to have gotten my favorite role. Im entirely certain Bacde saw my crumbs. Maybe he is outplaying me by calling my bluff, but I tend to doubt it. He might be town, but if hes scum then so are you.

[AngryPidgeon]

I will say Kash is someone I might be giving a pass. Intention to ISO Kash. Ugh. That is going to be lame.

It worked well because he managed to sponge the scum NK on a night and conftown a BP role. The only thing is that Bacde figured him out which showed a level of awareness from Bacde that I don't expect from the average player.

[AngryPidgeon]

Bacde gives me such good feelings.

Meaning you think hes town? Im not saying hes scum. Im just saying that a Bacde=scum/SD=town scenario has a 0% likelihood. I would drain my bank account and bet on that.

[AngryPidgeon]

Mmm, ok not entirely, but still. Im fairly confident about that still.

P-edit: It was in a 9p game in which AA9 had already flipped odd-Jailkeeper and there was a claimed 1xBP. It was obvious that there was no cop in the setup as that would have been op as shit for town.

[AngryPidgeon]

That majiffy vote is pretty bad.

[AngryPidgeon]

rofl. That confirmation bias. Town is also capable of not giving a shit.

[AngryPidgeon]

The butthurt

Right, he MUST be scum. Totally nothing to do with SD insulting him or anything.

[AngryPidgeon]

Hm, I might buy Majiffy/Sd actually.

[AngryPidgeon]

My suspicion of RY would more explain why I was targeted on N1 if he actually is maf. And his vote on me was bad lol. Ya, I might buy that. SD would be a likely partner for all that distancing over setup spec that they did, rofl.

[AngryPidgeon]

If Majiffy is scum, then I'd hedge on Hiraki or SD as the 3rd.

[AngryPidgeon]

Majiffy, I claimed an innocent result on absta. Yes? Yes.

[AngryPidgeon]

Hi I'm town

HI BB!

Ok, I believe you. I really do.

Also, I've been picking up your mantra of trolling like mad all game.
-What do you think of Zoidberg?
-What do you think of Majiffy/RY/Marangal slot?

[AngryPidgeon]

I want to give this game a bit more attention because I've been all over the place and 2nd guessing myself like mad everywhere. Right now I _think_ Majiffy is a solid vote.

[AngryPidgeon]

Im definitely starting to feel like Majiffy is just kind of obvscum and makes sense on more teams than most other ppl here.

[AngryPidgeon]

Kashm just to make sure, you are town this game, right? People pushing you are probably scum?

[AngryPidgeon]

Seriously SD/Majiffy 2012. I think I see it. Only weird bit there is Hiraki, but I never read Hiraki correctly*.

Except in P^4 mafia that one time and I was rightfully pissed when Amrun Vig'd that.

[AngryPidgeon]

Bacde, do you feel my SD case?

[AngryPidgeon]

I think you should claim.

[AngryPidgeon]

Lack of proper period use is quite scummy to me

I feel like im simultaneously on the verge of solving this game and having a wifomy/setupspec-induced mental, breakdown.

[AngryPidgeon]

Im going to try and wipe my slate clean and reread tonight.

Bbm and mollie seem town though.

Ugh ugh.

[AngryPidgeon]

Ok, someone is fucking with me this game. I think my paranoia is justified at this point and that likely means that one of two people is scum.

[AngryPidgeon]

Im going to apply some critical thinking. But I think I want Bacde. Im PoEing out scenarios in my head slowly.
@Dzmd: this is def not simple. Trust me. Someone is trying to outguess me actively

[AngryPidgeon]

DrZ: if you are town, then understand this. I know. I have been playing with that in mind. BUT, I have VERY good reason to say what I am saying. I think someone knew I was lying. I have very good reason to be acting like this. I think its Bacde. I want a chance to read though.

I hope ppl will trust my antics today, I swear I have a method to my madness.

Phonepost.

unvote: Sd

[AngryPidgeon]

Oh my fuck. DZ, if you are a doctor, you need to claim that next post. I guarantee a scum lynch if you are.

[AngryPidgeon]

Or you are gone. So much for that reaction test.

[AngryPidgeon]

[AngryPidgeon]

Majiffy would you be willing to PL DGB today?

[AngryPidgeon]

I need some time to clear my head and work this shit out carefully and do I slight reread. I'm going to blindly ask for people to sheep me Today after I get a chance to think really hard about this.

I'm going to try really hard to keep an open mind, but I'm getting more and more sure that one of Zoid/Bacde are scum.

[AngryPidgeon]

Its like you don't believe me when I say I know something that you don't despite me repeatedly saying it. Or you are just pretending and trying to drop fake towntells on me. That seems more likely.

[AngryPidgeon]

I wouldn't be voting you for policy. I dont mind if that is why they vote you though.

[AngryPidgeon]

I wish BBM would post here more

[AngryPidgeon]

Rofl, Im starting to think that DGB is scum and Zoidberg hasn't actually read their role PM. But that is not an opinion I stand behind seriously enough to put money on.

[AngryPidgeon]

VOTE: Dr. Zoidberg

I might change my mind, but I think this is a good plan for today.

[AngryPidgeon]

Maybe I am that dumb but when did you claim

[AngryPidgeon]

DGB, I want a final honest to god claim from you. And if you take it back later I will lynch you like the fury of 1000 suns.

Im dead serious.

[AngryPidgeon]

Majiffy, Im pretty sure they are scum. Will you stay if we just lynch them?

[AngryPidgeon]

I'll take it and I'll like it.

I already know who your buddy is if you flip scum. That RM kill was telling.

[AngryPidgeon]

I just noticed I have a cool role yay

/confirm Town Doctor

Oops ignore that.

[AngryPidgeon]

DGB is right in that I have just been trolling all game and doing very elaborate things. And she is right that that makes me town. But her unconcern with whatever I may be cooking up that Im so excited about and her insistence that Im an idiot and not acting with extra info that Im holding in my hand is off.

I can explain my play when this is all said and done. Obviously I am experimenting a bit this game and there is a reason for that.

[AngryPidgeon]

Hey AP what do you think about IFM currently?

I haven't forgotten about him. I think hes town, but I could be wrong.

[AngryPidgeon]

What do you think about IFM?

[AngryPidgeon]

And again, you might have been cooking things up, but your exclusive focus on your little plans prevented you from realizing that I was volunteering to take your bullet.

No, I definitely picked up on the subtext of what it meant.

[AngryPidgeon]

But I don't think you are town, so you know.

[AngryPidgeon]

But I don't think you are town, so you know.

[AngryPidgeon]

What do you think about IFM?

[AngryPidgeon]

And seriously you are calling me an idiot because I didn't trust the motivation behind your soft claim WHEN I THINK YOU ARE SCUM.

And you are criticizing my play? Rofl.

And I am trying to indulge you in other avenues and you give me that shit.

[AngryPidgeon]

You never claimed Doctor and given your lack of faith in the scumteam:

Who else would you say could?

Haha. Not the scum, obviously, so we're not looking for rocket scientists.

-DGB

In this post you very clearly felt that the scumteam was too dumb to pick up on my INCREDIBLY OBVIOUS CRUMBS.

But you expect them to pick up on that one so assuredly?

[AngryPidgeon]

VOTE: Bacde?

[AngryPidgeon]

Welp, like I said it has to be one of those 2 por lo menos.

[AngryPidgeon]

@Jake:

If the there is one mafia member left and they have an extra PR (like blocker), could they role and kill at the same time?

[AngryPidgeon]

If absta is actually a cop, then weeeeeee. We got this so I dont care. And unless

I culted absta

absta is subscribing to neo-Pidgeon play, Bacde is scum.

[AngryPidgeon]

Absta, which night did you target Bacde and which night SD?

[AngryPidgeon]

Side note: I bet there is a scum blocker in this game.

[AngryPidgeon]

Also lets turbolynch Bacde, I need a pick-me-up

[AngryPidgeon]

Also if Bacde flips town, lynch absta tomorrow regardless of literally everything.

You are ok with that, right absta?

I guess unless Bacde flips miller, but lets face it, that aint happening.

[AngryPidgeon]

DGB, if you really are town and are really concerned about my play. I can explain it all. I realize Im getting caught up in my complicated reality that is going on literally in my own head, but there is some justification to what Im doing.

[AngryPidgeon]

^ But the explaining will happen after the game.

[AngryPidgeon]

Fingers crossed on Bacde being a maf pr.

[AngryPidgeon]

Fair enough, in the mean time you can call us "town" with 100% confidence.

Only if I can airquote town when I say it.

Also given recent events, I would say there is a very high likelihood of IFM scum.

[AngryPidgeon]

I claim Jack of all Claims.

@DGB: I dont think the neighborhood was random, I think it was put in the game specifically which is part of why I kept talking about not wanting to lynch IFM on D1.

[AngryPidgeon]

Also IFM is kind of derp and what he did in the QT looked like derp-town. But if someone competent like Bacde/Zd were pulling the strings behind that, then I could see him being maf.

[AngryPidgeon]

Do you think the neighbour roles weren't randomly assigned?

Correct.

[AngryPidgeon]

Believe me, I think Im realizing now that what I thought was reality is actually too good to be in a game which means IFM is prolly going to flip a maf PR.

[AngryPidgeon]

The only thing is that the game is scum-sided with what I currently am seeing. There has to be another town PR out and about other than absta, but thats ok I guess.

[AngryPidgeon]

Ok, someone is fucking with me this game. I think my paranoia is justified at this point and that likely means that one of two people is scum.

FWIW, one of the people I was talking about was IFM.

[AngryPidgeon]

Cliffhanger. But at this point that person is prob town.

Bacde/IFM makes sense.

[AngryPidgeon]

How about Dat claim Bacde?

[AngryPidgeon]

Cliff notes: Absta has claimed a cop guilty on you and you are at L - 1.

Also if IFM is mafia, then WP. Srsly WP because you know me well.

[AngryPidgeon]

Claim immediately.

[AngryPidgeon]

UNVOTE:

[AngryPidgeon]

So, what do you think absta is doing? He claimed a guilty and left.

[AngryPidgeon]

And blocks and all that crap. I don't know. Im guessing he investigated SD last N1. I got the impression that absta truly believed my neighbor claim meant I had no other powers.

[AngryPidgeon]

I know that, but absta also sounded like he genuinely believed my neighbor role meant I had no other action.

[AngryPidgeon]

Also holy crap you fished that quote up fast.

[AngryPidgeon]

And D1. Oh shit its IFM. Right when shit is getting real in the thread.

[AngryPidgeon]

Might it be time for a mass claim? Y/N?

It does look like someone that has a guilty on Bacde.

[AngryPidgeon]

I wish absta were here.

[AngryPidgeon]

I want absta to accept that he gets lynched tomorrow if Bacde flips town.

[AngryPidgeon]

why would you say that to someone that you've hider-cleared as town?

Because if you are town, I want him to fess up to not being a cop obviously.

[AngryPidgeon]

Because Im policy lynching absta if Bacde flips town and I ant him to acknowledge that.

[AngryPidgeon]

I mean Bacde is posting suspicious as fuck content right now, but absta is weird too. Why did he not investigate Zdenek N1 for instance.

[AngryPidgeon]

We should massclaim

[AngryPidgeon]

Shit is coming out, chaos is happening. We need an orderly massclaim.

[AngryPidgeon]

VOTE: Bacde

[AngryPidgeon]

UNVOTE:

[AngryPidgeon]

shut the FUCK up.

We are mass claiming.

[AngryPidgeon]

We have a lot of claims already flaoting around.
The game is in a state of chaos.
I can probably solve this bullshit if we claim.

[AngryPidgeon]

I thought you were neutral on IFM?

[AngryPidgeon]

Not Majiffy/HD?

[AngryPidgeon]

I rly wnt to linch zerdburg

[AngryPidgeon]

Also if I called the scumteam correctly in le QT last night and am 2nd guessing all that scumhunting, I will hate myself. I could almost buy it really.

P-edit: Im so exhausted guys. I wanna replace out almost, but I never have and Im so invested in this game that I wont. Can we do a calm team building exercise? How about massclaiming?

[AngryPidgeon]

At any rate Im pretty certain the following people are town:
BBMolla
Pirate Mollie
SafetyDance? SafetyDance.

Im going to go home. Im going to 'relax' one way or another. Im going to do some honest to god scumhunting.

[AngryPidgeon]

BBM, how likely town do you think I am?

[AngryPidgeon]

Rofl, I just read a Bacde post in another game and thought it was in this one and almost shit myself.

[AngryPidgeon]

Ok, so I doubt HD/Bacde are Scum/town. woot.

[AngryPidgeon]

I doubt you=scum/Bacde=town. Your push is too strong.

[AngryPidgeon]

Holy crap, HD is a bigger spazz than even me.

[AngryPidgeon]

The difference is that HD literally just replaced into a clusterfuck.

And I never said that Bacde=scum/HD=town is unlikely, ffs.