Mini 1433 - State Farm Mafia - Game over

[Human Destroyer]

HELLO I'M MAJIFFY

[Human Destroyer]

so we're lynching bacde?

cool.

is he scum?

[Human Destroyer]

Hi Zoid.

You town?

Oh there's a cop too? Who is it?

[Human Destroyer]

I probably will read.

Just not going to do it right this moment.

I read up on claims though

from my understanding absta is a cop and AP is a JoaT...thing? I don't even know how to describe it

but apparently it clears absta and absta confirmed bacde as scum so that sounds good

[Human Destroyer]

Alive

2. BBMolla (

Revenus, Deltabacon

)
3. Hiraki

4. Human Destroyer

(Majiffy), (RandomYoshi),(Ms Marangal)

5. Doctor Zoidberg MD

6. Bacde

8. absta101

9. SafetyDance
10. pirate mollie (

Kashoodles, JKMatthews

)

12. AngryPidgeon

(Keybladeweilder)

13. IFM (

BrightEyedFish

)

Oh well if everyone's going to hand me their alignments on a silver platter like this this should be easy

[Human Destroyer]

Wait AP was a JoaT

AND

a neighbor?

That's way too good to be true what the fuck

[Human Destroyer]

Also IFM is kind of derp and what he did in the QT looked like derp-town. But if someone competent like Bacde/Zd were pulling the strings behind that, then I could see him being maf.

I know IFM from a different site

he's derp as town but he's a pretty sexy scum player so

[Human Destroyer]

Ok, someone is fucking with me this game. I think my paranoia is justified at this point and that likely means that one of two people is scum.

FWIW, one of the people I was talking about was IFM.

are you going to tell us the other one or is this going to be a crazy cliffhanger

[Human Destroyer]

btw is bacde hammered yet?

[Human Destroyer]

VOTE: Bacde

[Human Destroyer]

I

think

that's L-1

Someone hammer

[Human Destroyer]

Cliffhanger. But at this point that person is prob town.

Bacde/IFM makes sense.

kay

this should be an easy town win with 2 investigative roles alive and the SK dead

[Human Destroyer]

UNVOTE:

wait what

[Human Destroyer]

^^No cop worth their salt would have claimed VT at that juncture, it would have too many possible horrible consequences

:skeptical:

You mean other than the nightkill avoidance benefits, yeah?

[Human Destroyer]

Wait hold it, was checking absta's ISO

If absta was scum why the fuck did he hardbus Zde for the entirety of D2

[Human Destroyer]

nope nope nope nope with a side of nope don't buy it

VOTE: Bacde

this is the exact same shit nacho pulled in newbie 1344

[Human Destroyer]

he kept pushing I was town fakeclaiming a guilty and I was basically screaming at everyone to fucking lynch him since he was the last scum

eventually my strongarming worked

but y'know

[Human Destroyer]

Might it be time for a mass claim? Y/N?

It does look like someone that has a guilty on Bacde.

I'm down.

^^And people think this slot is town?

pedit: this was @HD

You

wish

you could push my mislynch.

[Human Destroyer]

lol

I can see that you haven't read the thread yet

Is this implying I need to read the thread to know my alignment?

How cute.

[Human Destroyer]

Well this shit blew up fast.

I say hold up until absta gets back and we can hear from him again about this whole bacde business.

You really are his scumbuddy, aren't you?

[Human Destroyer]

hey guys

why aren't we lynching the confirmed town's cop guilty again?

[Human Destroyer]

We have a confirmed town with a guilty and he's been breadcrumbing it since day start.

HAVE WE FORGOTTEN HOW TO PLAY THE GAME

ARE WE LISTENING TO BACDE'S MELODIOUS SIREN SONG

HE WILL SINK OUR SHIP

-DGB

clever metaphor

[Human Destroyer]

We have 13 players alive and many more days ahead.

Today is not a good day to mass claim.

-DGB

10 players

[Human Destroyer]

I rly wnt to linch zerdburg

HEY

AP

BACK TO FUCKING REALITY PLEASE

BACDE IS MAKING SCUMMY ARGUMENTS TO STALL HIS LYNCH FROM A COP GUILTY FROM A CONFIRMED TOWN

WHY IS THIS SO FUCKING DIFFICULT TO COMPREHEND

[Human Destroyer]

@mod: Jake can you confirm that you got this checked for normalcy?

doesn't it have to be in order to be hosted?

[Human Destroyer]

I rly wnt to linch zerdburg

HEY

AP

BACK TO FUCKING REALITY PLEASE

BACDE IS MAKING SCUMMY ARGUMENTS TO STALL HIS LYNCH FROM A COP GUILTY FROM A CONFIRMED TOWN

WHY IS THIS SO FUCKING DIFFICULT TO COMPREHEND

I know you didn't read the game HD but Pidgeon has been pushing for Bacde's lynch all day... until the guilty from his own innocent. I'm too lazy to check, but I even think AP started to vote me because I had a town read on Bacde.

I swear to god.

-DGB

[Human Destroyer]

I rly wnt to linch zerdburg

HEY

AP

BACK TO FUCKING REALITY PLEASE

BACDE IS MAKING SCUMMY ARGUMENTS TO STALL HIS LYNCH FROM A COP GUILTY FROM A CONFIRMED TOWN

WHY IS THIS SO FUCKING DIFFICULT TO COMPREHEND

I know you didn't read the game HD but Pidgeon has been pushing for Bacde's lynch all day... until the guilty from his own innocent. I'm too lazy to check, but I even think AP started to vote me because I had a town read on Bacde.

I swear to god.

-DGB

Actually AP has been pretty all over the place

you are trying to make AP feel stupid

you're confirmed scum

self hammer in shame

[Human Destroyer]

Holy shit I actually want to say DR ZOID/HD for scum right now

it can't be this obvious can it

I've always wanted to be scum with DGB.

Haven't had the privilege.

(And Zoid too! )

[Human Destroyer]

Required reading.

This is how scum flail when a cop claims a guilty on them.

This is exactly what Bacde is doing right now.

[Human Destroyer]

since late day 1

yes actually

[Human Destroyer]

I went into Night 1 screaming to the high heavens "HOLY SHIT NACHO IS SCUM WITH ABEL WE'RE FUCKING KILLING HIM WITH FIRE TOMORROW"

copped him just in case

GUESS WHAT

[Human Destroyer]

I'm reading to the point where Yoshi unvotes and finds that Nacho's defense has merit. Then he wants to sleep on it OMG HD - you didn't give up on Mafia after this???

-DGB

Willpower, DGB.

Willpower.

[Human Destroyer]

also addiction

that helps

[Human Destroyer]

I think I know what you're talking about AP

LOL

[Human Destroyer]

^^Someone in those last 4 posts is scum 100% (not inc. AP)

maybe both

there was definitely acting there

Thank you for bestowing your scum WIFOM upon us.

It's appreciated.

[Human Destroyer]

since late day 1

yes actually

did you claim VT when someone softed a track-guilty on you?

I mean I can go on all day about how this situation is different

I can go on about how you're trying to instill WIFOM and paranoia and basically assuming confirmed town is making an extremely derpy play.
But, y'know, you're scum, so I don't have to.

[Human Destroyer]

Ok, so I doubt HD/Bacde are Scum/town. woot.

Good.
Then you should probably be voting Bacde.
Y'know, the guy who your confirmed innocent is calling confirmed guilty? Yeah, him.

[Human Destroyer]

wait hold on

you DOUBT it's scum/town?

what the fuck?

[Human Destroyer]

Not Voting - Bacde

So Bacde.
Where's your push back?
You seem pretty convinced one of me or Dr. Zoid are scum. Where's your money?

[Human Destroyer]

I doubt you=scum/Bacde=town. Your push is too strong.

Ah, okay.
You should vote Bacde.

[Human Destroyer]

Holy crap, HD is a bigger spazz than even me.

It has it's advantages.

[Human Destroyer]

HD, I love you sometimes

but not at all right now

I'm just gonna wait for absta

also at least one of HD/DR Z is scum for sure

I'm going to repeat my question. Where's the drive behind the attack? I'm really not seeing it.

[Human Destroyer]

The difference is that HD literally just replaced into a clusterfuck.

And I never said that Bacde=scum/HD=town is unlikely, ffs.

I always replace into clusterfucks.

Usually I replace into slots at L-1 though.

[Human Destroyer]

Im fairly certain Zoidberg is scum if one of HD/Zoid are. HD just replaced in and honestly Mollie's behavior is what I would expect from a sane individual. HD is like balls to the walls lynch lynch lynch which I can at least understand because of his linked past.

DGB is just spreading dissent and chaos and making me feel like shit.

I'll be frank; I don't think Dr. Zoid is scum.
You're listening to Bacde too much.

[Human Destroyer]

I'm talking about your attack.

There's no drive behind it.

It's "Well one of HD/Zoid is scum"

but there's no fucking push to back it up

You're saying it without really believing it.

[Human Destroyer]

The difference is that HD literally just replaced into a clusterfuck.

And I never said that Bacde=scum/HD=town is unlikely, ffs.

I always replace into clusterfucks.

Usually I replace into slots at L-1 though.

lets make a deal

unvote me now, find a second scumspect, and if absta comes back and is like "actually I am cop lets lynch bacde" then lynch me

if absta says "ok guys I admit I'm not cop but seriously lynch bacde" then you have to think about it

deal?

I don't deal with terrorists.

[Human Destroyer]

I'm talking about your attack.

There's no drive behind it.

It's "Well one of HD/Zoid is scum"

but there's no fucking push to back it up

You're saying it without really believing it.

you've never seen me push in mafia before have you

Yes I have

[Human Destroyer]

Did you guys seriously write

10 fucking pages

in 24 hours

jesus

absta claimed a cop guilty on bacde

read bacde's defenses, then type

Code: Select all

[vote]Bacde[/vote]

[Human Destroyer]

I'm talking about your attack.

There's no drive behind it.

It's "Well one of HD/Zoid is scum"

but there's no fucking push to back it up

You're saying it without really believing it.

you've never seen me push in mafia before have you

Yes I have

well then I don't know what point you were making

I pick and choose when I push

you're calling one of me/zoid scum but putting nothing behind it

there's no vote, no questioning, no pushing, no anything

[Human Destroyer]

no shit baller I'm waiting on absta

"Yeah I'mma soft push HD and Zoid and cover up my lack of conviction by claiming to be waiting for absta!"

Totes town motivated.

[Human Destroyer]

Maybe this game will make sense if I get stoned off my ass. Ill chug some whiskey too.

I gotta see this.

[Human Destroyer]

Damn, is Also HD made a statement that might be a slip. But dgbs been doing similar? But that necesitates scum absta? Im on phone. Let me rally my wit and be back in an hour

I don't slip.

Scum absta is impossible unless I'm derping on how hider works or you're scum.
In which case this is the most idiotic and complex gambit I've ever seen.

[Human Destroyer]

no shit baller I'm waiting on absta

"Yeah I'mma soft push HD and Zoid and cover up my lack of conviction by claiming to be waiting for absta!"

Totes town motivated.

well I was pushing on your slot before these absta shenanigans

which is how I know you didn't read the thread

and I don't know what I'd ask you since you just replaced in so

what so when I replace in there's a full stop to the push?
not even a vote?

that doesn't make town sense

[Human Destroyer]

No one thinks im maf, lol. I kinda miss that. Bacde, can you tell me you aren't feeling me .

Im drained. I need a break. Do not end the day or im letting BBm's sig apply to you.

invalid

bacde claimed

[Human Destroyer]

ifm is bacde's buddy btw

he's lurking HARD

[Human Destroyer]

Quick, lynch Bacde before Pidgeon comes back!

-DGB

well I'm going to sleep so lynch him before I wake up so I can sleep well

[Human Destroyer]

@Mod:

Your L-X's are incorrect.

also HEY GUYS

CAN WE STOP FAKECLAIMING AND DECIDE WHAT WE'RE FUCKING DOING

THANKS

[Human Destroyer]

UNVOTE:

will get to this when i get home

[Human Destroyer]

Maybe everyone has weird-ass third party wincons, that might help make sense of this game.

-DGB

normalcy dgb

also im going to make some fucking sense of these claims cause id be shocked if theyre all true

[Human Destroyer]

and neighbors (although i guess thats not a pr)

werent you

just

pushing that someone was fakeclaiming

[Human Destroyer]

its hard to detect sarcasm on teh internetz :l

[Human Destroyer]

Mk, on my computer now.

I think the best way to go about this is to look at Zde interactions rather than claims. There's just too many and they're all fucking over the place and we need something more concrete than setup spec.

[Human Destroyer]

Do you care for my answer to this question? You haven't pushed it or mentioned that I still haven't answered it.

It was a rhetorical question.

What were you expecting scum-absta would do in response to your pressure vote?

Nothing particular. Don't know how you would react as town or scum so thought it would be educational to see any reaction.

um no

this is not scum v scum

[Human Destroyer]

Absta - Certain things about him seem townish, his scum hunting and aggressive play, but he dropped scum read on IFM for a pretty poor reason (because the slot claimed neighbor), and his scum read on KBW vanished for what seems to be no reason. Plus earlier on he was attacking KBW and BEF at the same time, which was awkward, and then claimed the a KBW scum flip would confirm IFM as town. Also, his scum reads on Bacde and Kashoodles seem to be based off their interactions with my slot, so the fact that they are as high on his lynch list as they are makes little sense.

holy fucking shit

we're not lynching absta

you don't write fucking paragraphs about how you think your buddy is scum

you just fucking bus him

[Human Destroyer]

Also, that looks p scum/scum HD. Hence why my gut was saying that Zd/absta were cross bussing on D1 and I likely got shot for that opinion which would make sense.

scum don't grill their partners like that unless they're massive dicks

[Human Destroyer]

I keep forgetting SD is in this game.

Every time you say "Scum wouldn't do X", a goon wins a scummy.

That doesn't make it a scum/scum reaction.

You're just assuming it is.

[Human Destroyer]

Bacde stop avoiding the Zed waggon. Forget Rev and Lurker and just vote Zed, it's that simple.

---
@Rev - I want to keep them alive so we don't waste our Zed lynch on them.

Kash is gut. I've said it before.

Oh hell no, this is not absta-scum and Bacde-town.

Why the fuck would he tell people to ignore town and move to his scumbuddy?

It doesn't make any fucking sense.

[Human Destroyer]

EBWOP: oh nvm I thought Rev was me

point still stands though

[Human Destroyer]

VOTE: Bacde

[Human Destroyer]

Vote: Xegarus

alright guys lets do this

What the fuck is this shit?

Someone's mad about being bussed.

[Human Destroyer]

What the fuck? This case isn't even correct in the slightest.

He had to make up shit to bus his scumbuddy. LMAO

[Human Destroyer]

I just have such a hard time buying a absta/Bacde team. IFM/Bacde would make sense.

Absta's prolly town. IFM is viable.

Nurse could be a false positive?

[Human Destroyer]

i.e. there's no doctor

[Human Destroyer]

IFM has claimed doctor. If he is lying, I think he will flip maf doc. But I see your point and my role pm is very vague about what to expect in the game.

Hold on, wait.

Doc/Nurse makes a lot of sense as a pair. Maybe it isn't IFM?

I'm not really used to having Neighbors with PRs so bleh.

[Human Destroyer]

Is Bacde at L - 1?

I'm pretty sure I put him there, yeah.

[Human Destroyer]

oh jake is just bad at counting

nevermind

[Human Destroyer]

ITT absta is town and Bacde is scum.

AP pls

[Human Destroyer]

This isn't a bastard game. There is always the possibility that Absta is town faking cop because he feels extremely strong about his reads.

I like how entirely useless you're being

you're not contributing anything of value, you're just saying "well this is possible or this is possible", never actually giving your real stance on things

[Human Destroyer]

absta Zoidberg is here saying to lynch if if you are wrong (which you are)

dat appeal to fear

[Human Destroyer]

absta Zoidberg is here saying to lynch if if you are wrong (which you are)

its obvious that you are fakeclaiming

I'm not mafia

Zoid is setting up lynches ffs

this implies knowledge that absta is town

LYNCH IT WITH FIRE

[Human Destroyer]

Bacde, why do you think absta is town? Remember he had a fake inno on him if scum

bc his thought process makes sense

zoidberg on the other hand

I'm fucking telling you guys, this is the EXACT SAME SHIT Nacho pulled to the fucking letter.

[Human Destroyer]

ok fuck this

I honestly thought absta was town and would admit that he's not cop

now I'm not so sure

I'm not VT (go figure)

I am an

Innocent Child

, and I figured I had absta nailed as a town fakeclaiming cop

I'm using this tonight 100%

I honestly wanted to wait until lylo, especially knowing that IC's tend to suck once noone suspects them

THIS IS NOT HOW IC WORKS

IC is usable at will, not just at night

[Human Destroyer]

if absta was scared that he was wrong he'd have retracted the claim by now

bacde is scum

[Human Destroyer]

Doc/Nurse/Cop/Tracker/Innocent Child?

There's absolutely 0 fucking way this is true. 0.

[Human Destroyer]

Framer is actually explicitly normal. And hiraki targeted bscde last night

it got blacklisted a week or two ago actually

[Human Destroyer]

[quote=The Normal Game Wiki Page]Roles which are explicitly Non-Normal include:
Non-Sane Cop, Blank Vig, Non-Sane or Quack Doctor, Janitor, Survivor, Lyncher, Cultist, Jester, Mafia Mason, Bus Driver, Lightning Rod, Nexus, Redirector,

Framer

.[/quote]

[Human Destroyer]

Roles which are explicitly Non-Normal include:
Non-Sane Cop, Blank Vig, Non-Sane or Quack Doctor, Janitor, Survivor, Lyncher, Cultist, Jester, Mafia Mason, Bus Driver, Lightning Rod, Nexus, Redirector,

Framer

.

[Human Destroyer]

@Mod: Was this setup created before or after Mafia Framer was blacklisted?

[Human Destroyer]

Just did some research.

Sun Mar 17, 2013 10:53 pm is when the announcement was made.

[Human Destroyer]

yeah basically

so yes, there

may

be framer hax going on

I don't really think so though

[Human Destroyer]

stop it I'm trying to cover up my own incompetence and you're not helping

[Human Destroyer]

Framer is actually explicitly normal. And hiraki targeted bscde last night

it got blacklisted a week or two ago actually

@Mod: Was this setup created before or after Mafia Framer was blacklisted?

The troll in me wants to point you to the the start date of this game, which was well over "a week or two" but being that i am super nicer, I will say that yes mafia framer was still an acceptable role by normal standards when my game was in the review process.

Edit - lol looks like you figured it out, Guess I should read all the way through next time

Oh you.

HD is scum right?

[Human Destroyer]

You seem so mean and aggressive this game

Implying I'm not usually?

[Human Destroyer]

I'm wary.

Pushing a Framer exists is how scum won Posh Mafia, no?

[Human Destroyer]

@BBmolla: You do realize that framer WAS explicitly normal when this game got reviewed.

Here is the thing though, I _still_ cant get over that one of absta/IFM is prolly maf.

You do realize that we have already seen a GOON flip, right? There are 2 maf prs max.

P-edit: I was in Posh Mafia. I pushed the framer suspicion. I was wrong.

oh I thought IaI was pushing it, my memory's shitty

Also HD just kind of feels like obvious town.

aw really? <3

AP if Bacde is town, how the hell does it make sense to push a guilty on him as scum?

see, here's the thing

scum in posh mafia were able to get off two mislynches through this

exact

logic

well the traitor was anyway

[Human Destroyer]

Like my role is like herpaderp you r a town nurse. Doc dies, you get a protect. Mebbe doc in game mebbe not. Oh btw you are a neighbor too.

This feels like exactly how Jake would word it too.

[Human Destroyer]

WAIT WAIT WAIT

hold on

no kill night 1 means IFM is probably telling the truth

I hadn't even thought about that

[Human Destroyer]

Yo AP if you're scum I'm giving you a scummy for this game btw

...don't go that far yet.

AP, which one of you claimed first; IFM or you?

[Human Destroyer]

WAIT WAIT WAIT

hold on

no kill night 1 means IFM is probably telling the truth

I hadn't even thought about that

Doc/Cop is fairly possible with even just one of Framer/Roleblocker

[Human Destroyer]

I'll be back later. I want to NL tbh.

Edit: Then Hiraki is scum. Or scum pulled a gambit.

Town Doctor with an Innocent Child and Cop seems fishy as fuck to me though HD.

RBer fixes the fuck out if it.

I still think Bacde is lying though.

[Human Destroyer]

Tbf, in 1408 I was in a doc/cop/ic game. Was op, we only had rb.

I am town. Ifm was reluctant to claim in the qt. I claimed first.

Bbm should I just sheep you?

What game day did you claim on?

[Human Destroyer]

Okay that sorta fucks up my theory of Bacde/AP

also why didn't IFM get all up on your ass when you fakeclaimed today?

[Human Destroyer]

did IFM tell you who he protected N1 and N2?

[Human Destroyer]

hmm okay

you're probably town then

[Human Destroyer]

Alive

2. BBMolla (

Revenus, Deltabacon

)
3. Hiraki

4. Human Destroyer

(Majiffy),(RandomYoshi),(Ms Marangal)

5. Doctor Zoidberg MD

6. Bacde

8. absta101

9. SafetyDance
10. pirate mollie (

Kashoodles, JKMatthews

)

12. AngryPidgeon

(Keybladeweilder)

13. IFM (

BrightEyedFish

)

this is what I'm looking at right now

I think IFM is a legit doctor mostly because I don't think he's the kind of person who would no kill just to fakeclaim doc to his neighbor buddy and we don't have a roleblocker (well, not a claimed one)

absta is town for Zde interactions; Bacde is scum by extension, and Dr Zoid is town by extension to that.

[Human Destroyer]

Like so basically after Bacde it's me wondering if the tracker claim is legit; if it is, then finding which one of {Molla, Safety, mollie} is scum.

Hiraki, claim results.

[Human Destroyer]

because my results just kind of clear revenus/HD at this point for not shooting last night

and bacde for not shooting two nights ago

he's either legit or a rolecop

which I don't think is really viable for the setup

[Human Destroyer]

Alive

2. BBMolla (

Revenus, Deltabacon

)

3. Hiraki

4. Human Destroyer

(Majiffy),(RandomYoshi),(Ms Marangal)

5. Doctor Zoidberg MD

6. Bacde

8. absta101

9. SafetyDance
10. pirate mollie (

Kashoodles, JKMatthews

)

12. AngryPidgeon

(Keybladeweilder)

13. IFM (

BrightEyedFish

)

We should be able to PoE the fuck out of this game.

[Human Destroyer]

No rolecop in game. My role pm formatting makes that obv

wat?

[Human Destroyer]

Absta/Hiraki?

I agree with bbm on no lynch over bacde.

No rolecop in game. My role pm formatting makes that obv

if there's no rolecop Hiraki is prolly town

[Human Destroyer]

I'd say it's either Bacde/{Safety/Molla/Mollie} or absta/Dr Zoid

I can't really think of anything else it would be at this point

[Human Destroyer]

Why not hiraki?

remind me how he magically knows I and Bacde didn't do any action if he's scum and not a rolecop

then we'll talk

[Human Destroyer]

That is pretty bad logic.

Wut if mafia tracker.

oh right

yeah sorta forgot about that

don't think he'd make as blatant a scum move as to partially clear bacde if they were partners though

he can go in the absta/dr. zoid pile then

[Human Destroyer]

NL is a bad idea

...

VOTE: No lynch

[Human Destroyer]

Hd, you scum aligned in this game, bro?

Nope.

[Human Destroyer]

xpost: ifm are you now claiming bodyguard? that changes everything. as in if you were a bg you would be dead if you successfully bodyguarded

Bodyguard = Doctor on the site we come from

Annoying as hell IMHO but I deal with it

[Human Destroyer]

bodyguard blows up though

not on the site IFM and I come from

[Human Destroyer]

xpost: ifm are you now claiming bodyguard? that changes everything. as in if you were a bg you would be dead if you successfully bodyguarded

Bodyguard = Doctor on the site we come from

Annoying as hell IMHO but I deal with it

I don't buy this. Why would he say doctor first?

probably cause his role pm says doctor but his reflex is to say BG

duh

[Human Destroyer]

I'm not scum.

You seem so mean and aggressive this game

And considering this is your entire case on me.

[Human Destroyer]

In the grand scheme of things, me getting lynched isn't that bad

also I retract my IC claim, I was just sorta joining in with the hilarity of this game, I was VT

last two scum are in absta/BBMoll/DR Z/HD

If he was actually a VT, there's no town motivation in claiming IC when we're trying to fucking setup speculate

This is a scum slot

[Human Destroyer]

>implying there was a playstyle difference in the first place

[Human Destroyer]

I don't like your reads either

You say as you follow my vote onto Bacde.

[Human Destroyer]

VOTE: HD

how does this even compute at this point

[Human Destroyer]

[Human Destroyer]

okay it's time for me to do some work

having no homework is definitely useful

[Human Destroyer]

Now, Im curious as to why someone would kill absta over the claimed and obvious Doctor. I realize that IFM is mislynchable (although not with Hiraki clearing him), but why kill absta when hes a likely target for a doc protect and you could be killing the doctor?

Why would absta be a likely doctor protect when he completely rescinded his cop claim and we have a claimed investigative role in Hiraki?

[Human Destroyer]

I feel like SD would actually try to get you modkilled for that

Soft-defense of buddy maybe?

[Human Destroyer]

Wow

town read on SD out the shitter

BP claim is legit

Wow

Following the crowd when SD comes under suspicion

HMM I WONDER

[Human Destroyer]

Also also I will admit Im making some assumptions here and you aren't really lynchable right now, so I'd rather lynch someone else {ZD/Rev/SD} and see what happens tonight.

HAVE YOU SEEN THIS PLAYER?

He's an excitable little fellow, about yay-high, rather wheaty looking in complexion and an excitable chap. Loves lunchtimes.

ok this shit is hilarious

I don't think I wanna lynch SD

AP vs. Dr. Z was literally an argument of semantics

I wanna know whats going on w/ RY's slot

@Mod Requesting a replacement for RandomYoshi

"I have a townread on SD"
"Oh shit everyone has a scumread on SD I better scumread him"
"Oh cool he doesn't have that much suspicion anymore I can townread him again"

[Human Destroyer]

VOTE: Safety

[Human Destroyer]

1) He was the blatant counterwagon to Zde
2) He asked for Zde to be modkilled (he also asked for AP to be modkilled)
3) He made a really townie post in particular about RandomYoshi

1st point isn't solid enough; Safety's wagon was way too small to be considered a counterwagon

2nd point is flat-out wrong, Safety only asked for AP to be modkilled

3rd point is literally referring to a complete joke of a post

[Human Destroyer]

Let's not have a repeat of yesterday please.

That orgy of self-congratulation and circular thinking pretty much broke DGB's mind.

Then just vote Safety.

[Human Destroyer]

I have 18 pages to read, iso'ing led to head explosion and I don't know what the fuck happened/is happening. Today is busy so it's not happening (full catchup) till tonight at the earliest but maybe Friday night.

Unvote

Only post during the whole Bacde fiasco.
Not a single contribution to the discussion. Not one.

[Human Destroyer]

That orgy of self-congratulation and circular thinking pretty much broke DGB's mind.

This game is awesome. I will look back at this game and remember it fondly. But ya, I think we fried a few people's circuit boards with all the fake-claiming and circlejerking and gambiting, lol.

Hey I fucking replaced into this shit

give me some cred yo

[Human Destroyer]

Harumph. Im starting to think its in this list, in about this order of likelihood (although all are equally plausible)
HD
Zoid
SD

Barring another PR claim, Hiraki, IFM and me are all likely town.

@Mod:

If someone were roleblocked, would their action still show up to trackers/watchers?

Oh I was going to respond to this.

I'm town, Zoid is probably town, SD is scum.

And yes, Hiraki/IFM/you town is what I've been pushing this entire time, but like no one listened to me about IFM town yesterday lol

So yeah.

[Human Destroyer]

Lol ^. If Bacde is scum, then SD is definitely scum.

@Zoid: Ok. I'll keep an open mind when/if I do that reread. But you saying "I could have shot my scum buddy SD", "I could have shot Majiffy because ???", and "I could have shot Bacde" and then saying "But no, I decided to be protown" is ???

None of that proves anything about your alignment - that is just speculation on people you may have killed that aren't RM. And if you were scum, you would have killed SD if he were town. Without a doubt.

interested in knowing what happened to this btw AP

[Human Destroyer]

@HD: That was based off the N2 RM kill. I figured that SD had to be scum because otherwise Bacde would have killed that slot. I then realized that absta or IFM being scum could also account for scum behaving oddly with the NK, but at this point both of those appear town.

I might be convinced of SD actually. And it would explain how Bacde knew absta was lying.

Oh hey I didn't even think of that one

add it to my list of OMG SAFETY IS SCUM reasons

[Human Destroyer]

And yet a D1 result on who he saved would clear that person and we have...nothing?

I don't trust the PR claims that have come out and if there is another/more

town

PR out there as well then I certainly wouldn't you trust any of you as well.

Hey, I hate to burst your bubble about easy-to-get mislynches through paranoia but

Hiraki confirmed IFM as town
IFM confirmed AP as town (unless we have a town roleblocker who hasn't claimed)

Basically, the only person who

can

be lying is Hiraki.

And...I don't think he would take the risk of confirming 2 people as town if he were scum.

So yeah.

[Human Destroyer]

Should also be talking about why a VT can nail scum so accurately. Outside of cheating, doesn't that strike as odd? Especially since he was knocked out before said doc claims?

Would you like to tell me what the point of mentioning this is?
Because it's quite useless.

[Human Destroyer]

Pedit - How can AP be confirmed town if he has no action? Also IFM is a doc not a role cop.

IFM docced AP Night 1 where there was no kill.
Durr.

[Human Destroyer]

did IFM tell you who he protected N1 and N2?

Cuz I told him in the QT that I was trying to dyaw attention off his being a Doctor claim . But he did say something about almost ccing me in N2 but decided not to.

Me both nigjts supposedlt

[Human Destroyer]

Im starting to come around to HD town, I think?

Quite frankly, not sure where you got HD scum in the first place. The day just sort of started off with everyone saying "LOL HD IS SCUM" and then votes appeared.
Welcome to the Club of Reality. May I take your order?

[Human Destroyer]

Im starting to come around to HD town, I think?

Quite frankly, not sure where you got HD scum in the first place. The day just sort of started off with everyone saying "LOL HD IS SCUM" and then votes appeared.
Welcome to the Club of Reality. May I take your order?

Votes appeared because your slot is scummy as fuck, and cannot be allowed to reach endgame.

I can't win while alive?
That's mean. >:(

Safety is scummier anyway.

[Human Destroyer]

Outside of cheating,

If anyone suspects a player has cheated and has evidence to support their claim, please bring it to my attention and I will look into it. Baseless accusations about cheating will not take place in the game thread and if anyone brings it up again will be modkilled. Consider this a Final Warning to everyone.

Oh shit

*backs away slowly*

[Human Destroyer]

So can we lynch Safety and end the game now?

It sounds like fun.

[Human Destroyer]

Hiraki needs to fullclaim, with results and everything.

He already did?

[Human Destroyer]

Who the fuck claims a PR, unprompted, without claiming results? Bogus claim is bogus.

OR
OR

OR

because my results just kind of clear revenus/HD at this point for not shooting last night

and bacde for not shooting two nights ago

basically

my results are worth absolute shit

but absta requires death

Unvote, Vote: Absta

[Human Destroyer]

Who the fuck claims a PR, unprompted, without claiming results? Bogus claim is bogus.

OR
OR

OR

because my results just kind of clear revenus/HD at this point for not shooting last night

and bacde for not shooting two nights ago

basically

my results are worth absolute shit

but absta requires death

Unvote, Vote: Absta

Okay we have different definitions of "fullclaim".

What ever happened to "I am an XYZ. On N1 I did ABCD, on N2 I did EFGH, on N3 I did LMNOP"?

he had already claimed tracker before this

this is his results claim

literally ISO him and Ctrl+F tracker, it's not that hard to find

[Human Destroyer]

What's the SafetyDance case?

With all the fakeclaims I can't remember if he was conf-town, innochild, tracked, protected... or maybe not... I thought some role cleared him but I lost track, maybe that claim was recanted?

-DGB

It was absta.
Who wasn't actually a cop.

[Human Destroyer]

For the SafetyDance case, just take a look at my posts on Page 71.

[Human Destroyer]

I feel like SD would actually try to get you modkilled for that

Soft-defense of buddy maybe?

Wow

town read on SD out the shitter

BP claim is legit

Wow

Following the crowd when SD comes under suspicion

HMM I WONDER

Also also I will admit Im making some assumptions here and you aren't really lynchable right now, so I'd rather lynch someone else {ZD/Rev/SD} and see what happens tonight.

HAVE YOU SEEN THIS PLAYER?

He's an excitable little fellow, about yay-high, rather wheaty looking in complexion and an excitable chap. Loves lunchtimes.

ok this shit is hilarious

I don't think I wanna lynch SD

AP vs. Dr. Z was literally an argument of semantics

I wanna know whats going on w/ RY's slot

@Mod Requesting a replacement for RandomYoshi

"I have a townread on SD"
"Oh shit everyone has a scumread on SD I better scumread him"
"Oh cool he doesn't have that much suspicion anymore I can townread him again"

1) He was the blatant counterwagon to Zde
2) He asked for Zde to be modkilled (he also asked for AP to be modkilled)
3) He made a really townie post in particular about RandomYoshi

1st point isn't solid enough; Safety's wagon was way too small to be considered a counterwagon

2nd point is flat-out wrong, Safety only asked for AP to be modkilled

3rd point is literally referring to a complete joke of a post

I have 18 pages to read, iso'ing led to head explosion and I don't know what the fuck happened/is happening. Today is busy so it's not happening (full catchup) till tonight at the earliest but maybe Friday night.

Unvote

Only post during the whole Bacde fiasco.
Not a single contribution to the discussion. Not one.

@HD: That was based off the N2 RM kill. I figured that SD had to be scum because otherwise Bacde would have killed that slot. I then realized that absta or IFM being scum could also account for scum behaving oddly with the NK, but at this point both of those appear town.

I might be convinced of SD actually. And it would explain how Bacde knew absta was lying.

last post isn't mine but brings up a point too

this is totally a case

[Human Destroyer]

"OMG EVERYONE'S AD HOMMING ME WTF"

You pack or moronic retards who have left their brains at the door.

[Human Destroyer]

I DONT KNOW WHO THE LAST SCUM(S) IS! I don't know if there's one or two left but guess what sunshine, Thinking you're scummy and thinking the doctors could be scummy does not mean I think you're all scum singing kumbaya . That fucking logic is stupid. Does that mean if someone in an open setup has more then the listed amount of scum as scummy reads then they must be scum because of it? Fucking hell...

you're missing the point entirely

you're calling people scum that can't be scum unless multiple players that are still alive are also scum

[Human Destroyer]

HD who'd you have killed last night?

IFM

If I was a roleblocker, I might've gone roleblock IFM kill Hiraki instead

[Human Destroyer]

tired now

will do work tomorrow

[Human Destroyer]

HD went nowhere.

The only possible way HD is scum is if ninjas are normal.

It's not on the whitelist or the blacklist.

[Human Destroyer]

Wait, DrZoid is a 3 person hydra?

I thought it was just DGB and Zoidberg?

[Human Destroyer]

AP, I'm not a

Mafia Ninja

, though that would be hella cool.

Anyway, back to what my post was going to be:

See half of me wants to lynch Dr. Zoid because of their blatantly obvious lining up lynches that would lead us to the mislynch of myself in MYLO should Mollie be town if my math is correct; at the same time, I really think the way they pushed the Bacde "guilty" was really really townish.

This leaves for me basically Molla, Mollie, or on a really really slight off chance Dr. Zoid, since everyone else is basically confirmed at this point.

We don't have enough mislynches to lynch through all 3 though so I'm probably going to look more in depth at all 3 when I get the time/stop being lazy.

[Human Destroyer]

This leaves for me basically Molla, Mollie, or on a really really slight off chance Dr. Zoid, since everyone else is basically confirmed at this point.

MATH:

I know I'm town, you seem to know that you're town, BBmolla is town, so by POE, mollie is scum, why worry about tomorrow?

-DGB

Because I haven't ruled out Molla yet.

[Human Destroyer]

#YOLO #hashtag

VOTE: PM

[Human Destroyer]

#YOLO HAMMER FOR THE WIN

also why the hell did scum have no power

[Human Destroyer]

I was a bad replacement cause I really didn't do much of anything

It was fun to just be in this game though lol

[Human Destroyer]

GG all I was watching as a newb trying to improve my scumhunting skills. Yea Zdenek and Bacde were good scums even though Bacde gave me a slight gut scumread and kash was insanely good. absta you are crazy. How the hell did you guess the scumteam on D2?!?! Also, dat cop fakeclaim. lol. AP is also crazy, simply because of the sheer number of claims lol. This game was hilarious. My notes on the game:

http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/qPq2vLRwRXCS

Some of these were ex post facto just because I was lazy at the time. I was really convinced the hydra was scum at the end because of the really quick flipflop I mentioned in the last post. What was up with that?

First step: don't post in all red text

Otherwise, I skimmed over the notes, they seemed interesting.