Mini 1433 - State Farm Mafia - Game over

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Ok, just finished reading through the thread and I can definitely see why you guys would want to lynch my slot. With that being said their could be a host of other reason's why Fish would sub out and being noob scum definitely isn't the case in this situation. I'd like you guys to step back and consider that you can't make a meta-read off his scum play and before he asked to be subbed you thought he was more a derp than anything else. Personally, I think he didn't know how to respond to pressure and choose instead to sub out instead of jeopardizing the town's chances. It has already been established that he didn't know how to play the game that well, so jumping to considering my slot scum based on that is a bit of a stretch imo.

Key immediately asking for reasons when he was voted seems extremely scummy too me. In my experience when people do that they are scum, who think they haven't given any reason to be voted. That causes them to immediately ask for the reason to the vote instead of pushing it off like a town alligned person would do.

As a result:

UNVOTE: whoever fish voted

VOTE: Keybladewielder

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Wow why was it necessary to mention the neighborhood?

Well now that Key outed the neighborhood thing I might as well explain it. Basically we can talk during pre-game or during nights. It gives no promise of alignment and when I checked the only message was a fluff one from fish.

Now ever since I made my first post Key has been acting extremely childish. I wouldn't say this is 100% scummy, but extremely anti-town and hasn't been backed up by any major contributions. He also seems to be locked in on Rev and I, but really hasn't given any substantial reason for it. I mean seriously, voting someone because you despise them is absolutely awful play and unless he mans up and actually starts contributing I think we should probably vote him.

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How is asking for reasons for votes scummy? Explain IFM.

A few other people have mentioned it, but it was the way you went about doing so that struck me as scummy. You seemed to be very jumpy and reactionary, combined with your opportunistic voting, and you outing the neighborhood for literally no reason is why I have my vote on you.

Now a question for you. Why did you find it necessary to mention that at all?

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I'd still like to know why he mentioned the neighborhood.

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Sorry about the prod, too much basketball the last few days.

Hikari why am I basically confirmed scum because of BFE? You can't just assume that he was scum because of subbing out.

I'm going to leave my vote on KBW for now until he gets back from his V/LA.

I'll post some more stuff after the games tonight.

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I am KBW's neighbor.

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Cant really quote since on phone, but I find it odd that people really jumped on my slot when Fish subbed out and considered it an extremely scummy move, but when xeg did it the pressure died off quite a bit on his replacement. Both subbed out under fairly similar situations, you could even say his worse due to being later in the day. Ill go though and look exactly how everyone responded when I can get on my comp tomorrow.

Also Im going to Chicago from Friday-Sunday so Ill try to stay as active as possible from my phone but dont expect a ton from me during that time frame. Just wanted to give you guhs a heads up so you could ask me anything before I leave.

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unvote

For now I'll unvote since I don't want to vote off AP unless absolutely necessary and he has done a good job replacing into KBW.

Like I said earlier I'm going to be

V/LA until Sunday

. Sorry, but I'll try to check at least once a day.

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Just got back. I'll read through everything I missed now and post in a few. Just wanted to give you guys a heads up.

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Ok, definitely getting a very strong town vibe from AP. KBW wasnt the best player, but in hindsight didnt do anything overtly scummy and I am willing to role with AP for now.

On the subject of the three wagons right now I'm really only liking one of them. Absta's play has been odd, but Im not getting much scum vibes from him. Im getting slightly scummy vibes from RY but nothing big enough to constitute a lynch vote. Plus he has atleast been contributing to the game which is more than can be said of Lurker. He has really only had one possibly two decent posts and we coukd glean a decent amount of info from his flip.

Vote Lurker

This should put him at -2.

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He is at L -2 not hammered...

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So I go from being town to being extremely scummy just for placing my vote on someone who has been lurking hard and who I find to be moderately scummy because I didn't vote Yoshi?

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How did you have a meta-based scumread on me when there's no scum meta to go off of?

I assume it was different enough from your town meta that he considered it your scum.

After being the second leading wagon yesterday Yoshi has done nothing today. It seems like he is trying to stay out of the spotlight now that the pressure is off of him.

Vote RandomYoshi

I don't have any problems with absta and in my eyes he is leaning town. I wouldn't have any major problems with voting Zde, but I think we need to get some pressure on Yoshi to get him posting.

Also sorry about my inactivity for most of the day so far. I was at a convention until late last night and wasn't able to read through stuff today.

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In light of the situation

unvote

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I'm willing to lynch Zdenek, but I would like to wait for RY to get a sub before we proceed with that.

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Oh thought he was a lot closer to being lynched. In that case.

Vote Zdenek

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I'm seeing scum in this list right now: Majiffy, Kash, SD, Hikari, Bacde

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Well this shit blew up fast.

I say hold up until absta gets back and we can hear from him again about this whole bacde business.

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Well this shit blew up fast.

I say hold up until absta gets back and we can hear from him again about this whole bacde business.

You really are his scumbuddy, aren't you?

I would have to be scum to be his scum buddy which I am not.

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VOTE: Bacde

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Hmmm, Im reading around Page 5 ish. As much as HD gives me the heebie-jeebies and Zoidberg has been promiscuous all game, I think Bacde is scum. Bacde, if you are scum, I'm sorry. I fear you as an opponent and I can't say that about many other players but I suspect you feel at least a solid respect for my play . I don't like Bacde's whole attitude towards BEF and Hiraki early game. Bacde explicitly OMGUS'd Hiraki by saying that Hirakil suspecting him was scummy of Hiraki. Hiraki points this out to him and he accuses Hiraki of blowing it out of proportion? I just don't see the town line of thought there. I don't like him implying he is town by saying he is offended that Hiraki thinks BEF is fooling him. I really really don't and it sounds like an excuse to 'towntell' with the AtE.

Im definitely also not a fan of the Maranoshiffydestroyer slot. It could be a playstyle thing on Marangal's end though, but god her posts look suspicious.

I don't like IFM's entry post. It makes me suspicious. I take back my enjoyment of it.

Ugh, ugh. KBW was a scummy person and the wagon on him makes sense. But I really do think IFM was pushing it as a scum ploy. Really, hes shoving his neighbor immediately after replacing in? :/ It feels weird.

DrZoid might be town. I don't know. DGB is pretty fucking ridiculous so maybe I trust myself less with that scumread. I like her attempt to reach out to me in hindsight even if it was done in a passive-aggressive way that I mistook for fake AtE.


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Also lol, I think IFM is scum which is trollol in hindsight. And I think I see what is going on in this game. Im going to bet on IFM + Bacde team. Im pre

PEDIT: I interrupt this wall post to tell you that I am stoned as shit. Also that IFM vote is stroking my confirmation bias like a lot.

Your slot was extremely scummy when I subbed in + your slot had needlessly revealed the neighborhood for absolutely no reason at all. My vote was completely justified at the time.

If you want to vote me tomorrow after the Bacde so be it, but you will waste the day. Thankfully we are a position where that won't matter much, especially if absta truly is the cop and has the guilty on bacde. I honestly don't care if I get the win post-mortem or not, but I would definitely like to take you up on the bet over that scum team.

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What is this Mcqueen shit that you keep throwing around?

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I guess weed really can mess with someones judgement. How about we lynch the guilty and then if you really feel like fucking up the game you can do it tomorrow?

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Ok lets lynch the doctor and then let the mafia kill the nurse.

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And how did you get that wonderful information your highness?

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Ya I happen to know who the doctor is...

Yours truly

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Results?

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Honestly with the way you were acting I didn't even know that your nurse claim was the real one. You also claimed JOAT here and never clarified in the QT that you were infact telling the truth about the nurse claim. As a result I didn't think it was that weird that we could have a cop and he was right about the d2 lynch. I'm sorry for not knowing which gambit was actually the real one and for not knowing that it would be absolutely impossible to have a JOAT/nurse, doctor, and cop in one game, but with all the crazy shit you have been doing and all the wild claims you have been throwing around every which way I didn't know which to believe. I just knew that you were town since you obviously didn't kill me after my claim.

BTW anyone feel like saying why that setup is absolutely impossible at this moment? Couldn't scum just have a few power roles to balance it out?

And notice I wanted absta to post before we actually did the lynch because I felt it was important to get him to respond, but obviously I get called scum for that too, so really not sure what you guys want me to do.

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This isn't a bastard game. There is always the possibility that Absta is town faking cop because he feels extremely strong about his reads.

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That was at HD's 1549. Didn't see this page.

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Look where my vote is HD. That is my stance.

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The fact that he hasn't backed down on his cop claim now that he knows he isn't innocent.

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He claimed first. I didn't feel comfortable claiming doctor first as you can probably understand as it did look like he was role fishing pretty hard and I still had my doubts about him. Once he claimed nurse though it all clicked and I claimed to him.

Also if I wasn't the doctor don't you think someone would have counterclaimed by now as it has been out in the open for a good number of pages.

pedit: What AP said is true.

I also didn't tell him who I was protecting him during N1 on the off chance that he was mafia and could fake a no kill to gain my trust and then lynch me later as opposed to killing me. So, that basically clears him of any chance of being scum.

I did tell him that I was protecting him N2.

pedit2: ugh bs stop posting shit while i am writing

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because my results just kind of clear revenus/HD at this point for not shooting last night

and bacde for not shooting two nights ago

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How do you propose there wasn't a night kill N1 if not for my BG?

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Didn't even know BG was a role here. Like HD said where we come from Doctor and BG are the same thing. Sorry for the confusing statement.

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Sorry last week of the semester so Im going to be quite busy until Friday afternoon.

I think SD is a perfectly viable lynch at this point and barring that failing we still have at least two more tracks left and a few more lynches to figure this whole thing out.

Like AP said I did state my actiona in the qt and everything is lining up.

N1 protected AP and their was no night kill.
N2 protected AP again and he knew I was this time
N3 protected Hikari. AP knew and it lines up with Hikari being tracker.

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V/LA until Friday afternoon