Mini 1433 - State Farm Mafia - Game over

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

VOTE: Xegarus

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

What the scum is bus'ing already? Lemme help.

VOTE: Xegarus

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

This hydra is comprised of Zoidberg & DrippingGoofball. I will sign my posts:

-DGB

Playing with a Hydra, how fun errm... who are the heads again?

also

VOTE: Doc. Zoidberg

if he's scum, he'd have too much of an advantage in game

Too much of an advantage if scum? WUT

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

This is too easy.

TOWN

Doctor Zoidberg
Revenus
JKMatthews
Bacde
absta101
Lurker
Xegarus

IFFY

Ms Marangal

SCUM

BrightEyedFish
Keybladeweilder
afetyDance
Hiraki
HadMatter

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Great! Caught one.

VOTE: BrightEyedFish

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Great! Caught one.

VOTE: BrightEyedFish

-DGB

He was already in your scum pile though.

Oh look, a scumbuddy.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

wagon wagon wagon go go go

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

uh post

will read later

And here's another scum, too busy to read 16 or so one-liner posts.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

kashoodles's slot is conftown.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Pro-Tips

1) find the mafia
2) don't get lynched

you have to make

proactive moves

and use your

vote

to get players to react in alignment-indicative manners

once you get good reactions from players, their alignments begin to become more clear

Said the scum.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

/yawn
oh no bacde you caught me

EBWOP

This is the post I wanted to quote.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

this is a weird response

Yeah, Hiraki is scum. That's why the answer is weird.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Nothing particular. Don't know how you would react as town or scum so thought it would be educational to see any reaction.

You are so scum.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Revenus, who is scum?

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

It takes about 10 seconds of original thought to realize that Zoidberg made a list with all of the players who had posted as "Town" (except Ms Marangal who was "iffy" for voting Zoidberg) and everyone else as scum

since BEF didn't realize this, I figured he was scum for not being fully mentally present in the game. Scum are in a different headspace than town and often aren't able to replicate the analytic thought process town have

now he just seems derp

Problem is, it was derping of the "how did you catch me so quickly I haven't even posted" variety.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Rev, I fail to see your logic here. You say that calling you scummy and listing reasons for said accusation, that puts me in a scum position. How?

Where did you do this? I can't find it.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

It's on this page.

Okay I think maybe I misunderstood your post.

To me it looks like you are attacking Revenus for being a VI, and then defending your accusations by saying "I said you were scummy and gave the reasons"

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Mod wrote:BrightEyedFish has also requested a replacement

if this doesn't scream nubscum

I wholeheartedly agree. Our vote is there, and we'll be keeping it there unless the other head has other plans.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Lurker is town.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

@ Keyblade

Don't get upset at Revenus, he's scum, he's just playing to his wincon. I know YOU're town, and HE's not.

Xegarus IS using the nopb card: "it being a bigger game than i am used to."

@ absta - I just finished a game where there was a neighborhood that started with two townies.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Quick reply:
@Doctor - What was the setup?

It's here.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=25510

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Rev: I don't like you as a player because of your attitude since we first met.

Just stop fighting with him. He's going to flip scum. Stay calm, we've got your back.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Rev: I don't like you as a player because of your attitude since we first met.

Just stop fighting with him. He's going to flip scum. Stay calm, we've got your back.

-DGB

I'm still waiting on that case.

When I read your posts, I am enveloped by a chilly feeling that you are deceiving the rest of us about having a townie role PM, and not trying to find scum because it may lead to your buddies. I try to put myself in your head as the writer of your posts, and ask myself if I'd write them as town or as scum. The answer is, "as scum."

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

KBW we all know your shitty reason for voting me

The above is an example of something that would much more likely come from scum than from town.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

KBW we all know your shitty reason for voting me

The above is an example of something that would much more likely come from scum than from town.

-DGB

Really? So you think his reason for thinking I'm scum is valid?

It doesn't matter whether his reaction is valid, not to mention that he's town. What matters is your reaction to it. You're reacting like scum.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

How is asking for reasons for votes scummy? Explain IFM.

A few other people have mentioned it, but it was the way you went about doing so that struck me as scummy. You seemed to be very jumpy and reactionary, combined with your opportunistic voting, and you outing the neighborhood for literally no reason is why I have my vote on you.

Now a question for you. Why did you find it necessary to mention that at all?

He's a frustrated townie.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

I'd still like to know why he mentioned the neighborhood.

Frustration. He's still town.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

dear dr zoidberg
has kbw done anything scummy or antitown this game, in your opinion?

You're scum; we're not obligated to answer your questions. Now sit there in the corner while we finish finding your buddies.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

@ Hiraki

I'm still voting IFM.

Thoughts on Xegarus?

My hydra partner thinks he's overwhelmed town.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

I still think keyblade is scum.

Let's examine your case on keyblade for a bit:

Side note: I really don't like how in #41 Safety doesn't vote me, notices my behavior, then votes for me WITH THE EXACT SAME REASONING. I don't know why he waited, but it is nothing in and of itself.

Keyblade is acting pretty badly.

He gets into a breif flame war as soon as he is in the game, Talks about ongoing games, Continues this until page 5, where he votes for someone with a replacement, Then IMMEDIATLEY backslides and wails "why are you lynching meeee", and then tries to get Safety onto another wagon, following by saying there is no reasoning for his wagon, even though he stated "You're overreacting", which at this stage of the game is more then sufficient to warrant a vote.

VOTE: Keybladeweilder

Just outlining what he's done is not evidence of anything. What is the scum motivation behind doing the things he's done? Why is getting into a brief flame war scummy? Why is talking about ongoing games scummy? Why is whatever else scummy?

You have to demonstrate that keyblade is coming from a scum mindset.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Lurker is scummy. Classic putting down a dude which is an easy target and may also be scum, but that has yet to be determined, and just does IioA as a case. That is not a case Lurker try again. Also I don't know the other head, but I have played in games with DGB and she is very good whether she is playing town or scum. BTW true fact: Most flame wars are started by Townies not scum. They often are T v T as well .

Other head is Zoidberg. You and I played together in a game a few months ago.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

The scum team is:

BEF/IMF
Revenus
Lurker

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

What happened to Hiraki-scum

He's town now.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

There is a theory out there that says the more people V/LA when the heat's on, the more likely they are scum.

I subscribe to this theory.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

i actually can't tell if this is sarcasm

but i hope to god it is

It's true for me, I always excuse myself when I'm scum. Well until I got a grip, stopped doing it myself, and started to call it a scumtell in other people.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Is Xegarus KBW's neighbor?

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Xeg was active lurking before he went V/LA, posting in other games but not here. I forgot to say.

Please provide data, would be willing to vote Xeg on the basis of this information.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

VOTE: absta101

Stop being useless. What are your reads?

I think absta is OK.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

If you guys decide to lynch me, just lynch these two next and I'll be happy.

Guaranteed town mindset.

I do disagree with his Keyblade vote, but absta is town.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

I concur re: giving Zdenek a chance. He's very readable.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

I can elaborate on any one of them.

I'm curious as to why none of them have the label "scum."

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

IFM? - I veto his lynch at least for Today, anyways.

AP is town.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

I would be more than happy to purge Rev from the game though.

oh boy oh boy

Finally someone sees what I see

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Actually I might be willing to lynch Rev

Squuuuuuuuuuueeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

I could see Yoshi as scum.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

If you guys are gonna lynch or wagon me, at least come up with a case beyond meta/gut. Seriously.

How about, "sounds like fun!"

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Ms Marangal jettisoned this game, and just replaced INTO another.

I think she should be site-banned, and that Yoshi is scum.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Signed:

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

VOTE: RandomYoshi

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Hiraki your lynch pool is terrible, help us lynch Yoshi.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

RachMarie did nothing then disappeared, and posts elsewhere.

Would lynch.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Speaking of which, I do have a question for you (is Zoid at all participating cause I keep seeing you signing all the hydra posts?) but either way, why do you think DY is not a viable lynch? As for Key dude he is an easy lynch from my experience of him, and that is about all I can say on that matter atm. (ongoing games). Besides being an uber lurker and all what else makes you think he is scum?

Zoidberg has been busy the past few days.

I'm voting RY, I think he's a viable lynch.

I'm not voting for Key dude, I think he's town.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

absta is town, town, town.

There is exactly one scum on his wagon.

AngryPidgeon, SafetyDance, RandomYoshi, Kashoodles, Lurker (L-2)

Ooops

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

absta101 - SafetyDance, RandomYoshi, Lurker (L-4)

krap votes are here.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Also, I'll throw my vote onto a more useful wagon since AP isn't getting lynched.

Lurker: Well, he's had alternating bad posts and decent posts. Meh. Mix of towny/scummy people on his wagon.
RY: Replaced Marangal right? Would be down for lynching. Don't really trust the reads of the people on the wagon though (all calling me scum)
absta: derpy posts, but two of the competing wagons are voting this guy.

Throwing my vote on Ms. marangal's wagon; girl was way too scared to throw down a vote

Vote:Ms. Marangal

but wait, suddenly have decided I'd rather lynch lurker.

Vote:Lurker

Classic

FOS buddy (Marangal/Yoshi), vote: townie.

More RY votes, please, Lurker is town.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

OH that was a hammer.

IFM's hammer is really scummy since he's done nothing but wait in ambush to hammer within 45 minutes of his buddy Revenus casting the L-1 vote.

Yoshi, Revenus, IFM. Vig pool.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

umm DGB count again I think it takes 7 to lynch. There are 13 players so yep 7.

make yourself useful and unvote.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

It's L-2 but I'm game for an IFM lynch.

So am I, but right now the wagon is on his buddy Yoshi.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Revenus' #561 is undisputably a scum post.

We could lynch him, too.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

I don't find him townie enough to save his keister, but the scum on his wagon is scummier than he is.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

So I go from being town to being extremely scummy just for placing my vote on someone who has been lurking hard and who I find to be moderately scummy because I didn't vote Yoshi?

I feel you, it's really frustrating to be caught for the wrong reasons.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Is RandomYoshi within claim range?

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Im mega tempted to sheep Hirakis RY townread.

UNVOTE: absta101
VOTE: AP

Oh good grief, AP is painfully town.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

*last ditch distancing not entirely out of the question*

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Let's try this
Vote: SafetyDance

You're not focusing.

Your last-ditch, unjustified derailment of the Yoshi wagon makes me want to wagon

you

.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

This gets interesting.

Lurkerwagon has more scum on it. But they could be bus'ing.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

We should have let the scum take care of Lurker at night and waste a NK. But eh.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Day 1? I might have been tempted to risk it.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Vote: IFM

No reason to delay now boys.

I take hints very well.

VOTE: IFM

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

UNVOTE:

Harumph

I thought this was a hint of a role-related result, especially since the NK was stopped last night.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Willing to admit being wrong about absta.
VOTE: absta

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

UNVOTE:

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

@ Revenus

I'd like to formally apologize for calling you scum yesterday. You're town today.

Maybe you're an anti-traitor, you were vig'ed scum and now you're town.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Maybe you're an anti-traitor, you were vig'ed scum and now you're town.

What?

IZ JOAK

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

ZDENEK TOWN READ FORECAST:

FADING

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Were you just trolling about Rev being town?

Dead serious. Disappointed?

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

AP's defence of Lurker at the end of day 1 is suspect. Lurker was scum, in my opinion seemed scummy, and looked like he might have ended up being lynched, and AP went out of his way to defend him.

What are you suggesting, that AP purposely defended a Serial Killer, knowing he was 3rd party?

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

DRZMD, what changed about Rev?

I originally had a meta-based scumread on Revenus but his play has come more into line with what I would expect from town-revenus

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

VOTE: SafetyDance

It's pretty obv.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Dear Dr. Zoidberg. The rest of the town may be content to let you pretend to be too carefree to back your bullshit up, but Im pretty sure you are scum. You were a universal townread

So? Scum aren't obligated to kill people who are seen as very-towny. Maybe they tried to pick off a suspected PR. Maybe they no-killed on purpose. There are lots of equally plausible explanations and your reasoning is specious.

and came out of last night alive when I was most certain you would die.

Cool. I'm not sure why scum (or we, for that matter) should give a rat's ass about your expectations for the night phase.

Also your reasons for flip-floppng on Revenus look like scum posts.

In what specific ways do they look like scum posts?

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Yes, scum no killed last night. Thats totally equally plausible. Wuuuuuuuuuuuut.

It's certainly plausible. Maybe you no-killed so you could run your bulletproof gambit. Stranger things have happened in Mafia. You'll note I didn't say it was likely.

So Revenus's VERY FEW posts today totally subverted your read on him from scumscumscum to towntowntown? Like all the stuff he posted yesterday doesnt matter anymore and the stuff he posted today has X-infinity more weight?

Awww Sweetheart, that's so

cute

the way you try to put words in my mouth. I gotta tell you, Snookums, the "scumscumscum" and the "towntowntown," and all that. Yeah Darling it's touching to think that you're so threatened by DGB and I that you have to resort to painfully-transparent mischaracterizations of what I wrote.

Thanks for making me feel good about myself!

DGB is very capable of being aggressive/caustic as scum.

She is justifying why she wasnt killed by suggesting a nokill and simultaneously saying im dumb.

They are scum.

1. The post in question was not DGB
   
2. That's the 2nd mischaracterization you've tried in as many posts. I suggested a nokill as
   one of many possible explanations
   . You, on the other hand, have such an inflated sense of self-worth that the only explanation you can think of is that scum targeted you?
   
3. I didn't say you were dumb (though I might be tempted to at this point). What I said was your reasoning is specious. Go back and read for yourself, Pooty-Pie. You'll see!

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Dear Dr. Zoidberg. The rest of the town may be content to let you pretend to be too carefree to back your bullshit up, but Im pretty sure you are scum. You were a universal townread

So? Scum aren't obligated to kill people who are seen as very-towny. Maybe they tried to pick off a suspected PR. Maybe they no-killed on purpose. There are lots of equally plausible explanations and your reasoning is specious.

I understand picking off a PR but why suggest that there was a no kill?

Again, I listed it as one of many possibilities as part of a larger argument: that AngryPidgeon is not imbued with psychic powers, and so his expectations of night phases only carry weight if he is scum.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

You'll note I didn't say it was likely.

You said "equally plausible" as an explanation as to why YOU weren't killed. You listed a bunch of possible night things that were 'equally likely'. Equally likely to what? Me getting targeted and sponging the bullet?

Aww Pookie, it's so adorable when you put words in my mouth. Did I use the phrase "equally likely"? No? Well golly gosh gee, the flattery is making me blush! You must really be scared of us to keep misrepresenting us like this!

The response feels reallllly off because it doesn't make sense in context of what I as accusing you of, really. Its like you are assuming that I was in fact shot at but acknowledging that there are other things that may have happened.

Im not hiding jackshit. I'm 1x BP and I probably got targeted last night.

I have no reason to disbelieve your claim since at this point there's nothing to refute it. But at the same time I have no reason to believe it, either. It's not like this is a game of deception, right? You can couch your

un-prompted

claim in whatever macho language you like, but you won't change anything.

In the meantime, by all means feel free to keep pushing this incredibly-flawed argument while parking your vote on Zdenek.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

I don't understand the difference between the words "possible," "probable," and "plausible."

Okay.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

The definition of "Likely" is "probable".

The definition of "Plausible" is "realistic" or perhaps "believeable".

tl;dr use a dictionary.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Nope! Plausibility and Probability are not the same thing!

Keep trying, Sugar-Lips!

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

What it means is that (in my opinion) those are all equally believable or reasonable events.

When you try to nit-pick and use it as the basis of an argument, you owe it to yourself to at least understand the words you're using as the basis of the argument. Now you've wasted everyone else's time with 2 pages of nonsense they have to read.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Sometimes it's that easy.

VOTE: Zdenek

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

If it Zdenek's claim was true, he would have counterclaimed and strongly suggested that he might have be the NK target.

Yeah. It's that easy.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

The following players are hard-confirmed town:

Doctor Zoidberg MD
AngryPidgeon (Keybladeweilder)
absta
SafetyDance

Reason: I have very penetrating reading comprehension skills.

The scum is in the list below:

Revenus (Deltabacon)
Hiraki
Majiffy (RandomYoshi),(Ms Marangal)
Bacde
IFM (BrightEyedFish)
Kashoodles (JKMatthews)

Zdenek called some players town, some scum, and some weren't mentioned. I am certain that he didn't stuff two buddies in the same category.

Zdenek called only two players town.

Bacde, and us.
We are town, so by POE, Bacde is likely the buddy that calls 'town.'

Zdenek had no comment on three players.

AP, kashoodles, and RachMarie.
AP & RachMarie are town. That leaves kashoodles as a possibility.

Zdenek called scum Marangal/RandomYoshi/Majiffy, Revenus, and Hiraki.

After isos, my best bet on third buddy is RandomYoshi/Majiffy.

Today I would examine Bacde and kashoodles, one of these two players is certainly scum.

I would also examine Marangal/RandomYoshi/Majiffy, Revenus, and Hiraki, one of these three is certainly scum.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

I am highly considering a SD vote.

I have nothing to hide, but and that's is in direct conflict with something I picked up last night while reading.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Also, Hiraki is town.

Does that mean you changed your mind about something important since about the time of the lynch?

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Just saying, if the forecast was changed, I'll have to adjust my post #904 according to the new information. Should I substitute Hiraki for SafetyDance?

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

DGB, you aren't confessing to having your hand in ye olde cookie jar last night right to my face are you?

I read before going to bed. You should trust me.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. DGB, if you aren't fucking with me right now then I might call a SD/Bacde team and skip off down the yellow brick road.

So, you're telling me, my forecast the beautiful sunshine that you are in the game today doesn't mean that SD is town, but it means that Hiraki is town?

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Phonepost: SD is not confirmed town.

KK

That means I have to change my calculations.

Am I OK with Hiraki-town?

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

UPDATE This is what we have to work with right now.

The following players are hard-confirmed town:

Doctor Zoidberg MD
AngryPidgeon (Keybladeweilder)
absta
Hiraki

The scum is in the list below:

SafetyDance
Revenus (Deltabacon)
Majiffy (RandomYoshi),(Ms Marangal)
Bacde
IFM (BrightEyedFish)
Kashoodles (JKMatthews)

SafetyDance asked that ZdenekScum be modkilled in post #756, so not hard-confirmed town, but not likely scum. Looking at some other interactions with Zdenek I'm not sold on SafetryDancescum at all.

In #615, Zdenek said: "I'd rather lynch either SafetyDance or Lurker, than RY, and probably

RachMarie

too."

This is Zdenek's #512, re-formatted by me for clarity:

I have town reads on:

AP

- because of KBW's toe-stepping and a gut town read on AP
Bacde - because of aggressive play and being able to follow his thought processes.

DRZMD

- with the same caveat as before.
Revenus - gut read

Town, but concerned:

Kashoodles - blathers, but that could be a playstyle thing and I know that I read long-windedness badly. Definitely is scum-hunting.
IFM - had a mediocre start, but appears to be trying to read AP (the slot that was his top scum read before).

Null, but don't want to lynch:

RandomYoshi - I didn't like Maragel's shitty attack on DGB early, but DY appears to be trying.

Weak scum:

Absta

- Certain things about him seem townish, his scum hunting and aggressive play, but he dropped scum read on IFM for a pretty poor reason (because the slot claimed neighbor), and his scum read on KBW vanished for what seems to be no reason. Plus earlier on he was attacking KBW and BEF at the same time, which was awkward, and then claimed the a KBW scum flip would confirm IFM as town. Also, his scum reads on Bacde and Kashoodles seem to be based off their interactions with my slot, so the fact that they are as high on his lynch list as they are makes little sense.

Scum:

Hiraki - I don't believe that he believes in any of his reads. His lynchpool hasn't changed since page 2, Bacde went from being a last resort lynch to requiring death, Xeg was in the lynchpool, Hiraki wanted to believe that he's an overwhelmed townie, and he's still in the lynchpool. KBW was not scummy, but douchy and a shitty lynch, but Hiraki voted AP, who is not in, and has not been added to, his lynchpool.

Lurker

- He's voting Absta for no reason after having him as a slight town read, and he's made no comment on AP despite pushing KBW as scum before.

Null willing to lynch (usually a great place to find scum, which is why it's down here):

RachMarie

- she's done very little.
SafetyDance - attacks people for voting BEF despite not having a read on BEF. Makes weak attacks on people and doesn't follow through.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Who else would you say could?

Haha. Not the scum, obviously, so we're not looking for rocket scientists.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Shoot, I forgot to put Hiraki in green:

I have town reads on:

AP

- because of KBW's toe-stepping and a gut town read on AP
Bacde - because of aggressive play and being able to follow his thought processes.

DRZMD

- with the same caveat as before.
Revenus - gut read

Town, but concerned:

Kashoodles - blathers, but that could be a playstyle thing and I know that I read long-windedness badly. Definitely is scum-hunting.
IFM - had a mediocre start, but appears to be trying to read AP (the slot that was his top scum read before).

Null, but don't want to lynch:

RandomYoshi - I didn't like Maragel's shitty attack on DGB early, but DY appears to be trying.

Weak scum:

Absta

- Certain things about him seem townish, his scum hunting and aggressive play, but he dropped scum read on IFM for a pretty poor reason (because the slot claimed neighbor), and his scum read on KBW vanished for what seems to be no reason. Plus earlier on he was attacking KBW and BEF at the same time, which was awkward, and then claimed the a KBW scum flip would confirm IFM as town. Also, his scum reads on Bacde and Kashoodles seem to be based off their interactions with my slot, so the fact that they are as high on his lynch list as they are makes little sense.

Scum:

Hiraki

- I don't believe that he believes in any of his reads. His lynchpool hasn't changed since page 2, Bacde went from being a last resort lynch to requiring death, Xeg was in the lynchpool, Hiraki wanted to believe that he's an overwhelmed townie, and he's still in the lynchpool. KBW was not scummy, but douchy and a shitty lynch, but Hiraki voted AP, who is not in, and has not been added to, his lynchpool.

Lurker

- He's voting Absta for no reason after having him as a slight town read, and he's made no comment on AP despite pushing KBW as scum before.

Null willing to lynch (usually a great place to find scum, which is why it's down here):

RachMarie

- she's done very little.
SafetyDance - attacks people for voting BEF despite not having a read on BEF. Makes weak attacks on people and doesn't follow through.

It's strange how he has "null won't lynch" in the middle and "null would lynch" at the bottom.

Gonna say that one of SafetyDance or RandomYosh/Majiffy is scum, but SD was asking to modkill Zdenek... Let's see what you guys think.

At some point Zdenek was really puzzled when I suddenly switched my Revenus read from scum >>> town, and he asked me

twice

about it. Maybe he wanted me to compromise myself by elaborating on finding his buddy town?

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

I realize my logic on SD scum is a bit circular then

I totally get what you're saying. Totally.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

I dislike SafetyDance arguing on behalf of Absta. His stance on idiots is going to be tough to uphold. I also do not like that SafetyDance did not have an issue with Hiraki pointing out that BEF replacing out is scummy, but then immediately votes for KBW when he votes for BEF.

Eh? Xeg was playing scummy, I was calling him up on his assuming and fickle voting.

Also you're going to have to explain the last part better. It sounds very much like "Why didn't you vote Player A for X reason when you voted for player B for Z reason". I don't understand.

SafetyDance, I think that it is false that neighborhoods are always random.

I think it's false to presume otherwise. I'm sure there are exceptions but with no knowledge of the setup I'm not making any assumptions that the neighbors were cheery-picked.

SafetyDance I feel has been somewhat going under the radar - someone I really do want to focus in on more. Nothing he's said has been particularly scummy, but I also feel like he's lurking during the best situations and pops in once in a while.

Once in a while is actually quite regularly. I'm not likely to be in any spamguments, if that's what you're inferring too but I think I've been around fairly regularly. Aas for content, what do you expect when your two main targets leave? I do believe I mentioned my annoyance at that.

Also you're going to have to explain the last part better. It sounds very much like "Why didn't you vote Player A for X reason when you voted for player B for Z reason". I don't understand.

I don't care that you didn't vote for Hiraki. My point was that you reacted strongly KBW's vote, but not at all to Hiraki's comment.

More confused. I did react, I agreed with him about KBW. How about mentioning/quoting the posts you're talking about?

Prod is a bit ridiculous,from the nanny state, next thing you know they'll tap our phone lines.

UNVOTE

Spoiler: absta quotes

@Safety

I'm agreeing with the absta lynch though. Not liking the attempt at sarcasm either.

Hard to know what to make of it all without a flip, ergo

(vote absta101)

What the fuck is this shit?

Also, how is "attempting sarcasm" scummy?

Why do you agree with my lynch specifically?

It's a vote

It's a contrived emotional response.

Because I think your scum....

@absta, can you answer #473 as well as the question above?

When I get back.

As for your other question.
Zed
You or Safety
Kash

I can see either you or Kash working with Zed.

aka OMGUS, OMGUS and OMGUS.

@Rach - My old avatar is old.
This isn't my new playsyle or anything. I just want to die already, I'm so disconnected from this game. Still really confident in my Xeg scum read though. That's the only reason I started 'looking' for his buddies, I normally don't do that without a flip.

G..fff.ssds.. Ugh.

UNVOTE

Never seen scum do this but OMG, it is not helping if you're town. Wise up Janet Weiss, or do as Bacde suggested and replace out. Apathy does not help.

Spoiler: zdenek quotes

I have some time this evening.

Also you're going to have to explain the last part better. It sounds very much like "Why didn't you vote Player A for X reason when you voted for player B for Z reason". I don't understand.

I don't care that you didn't vote for Hiraki. My point was that you reacted strongly KBW's vote, but not at all to Hiraki's comment.

More confused. I did react, I agreed with him about KBW. How about mentioning/quoting the posts you're talking about?

Eh...that should read BEF not KBW. Too many damn acronyms for awol or replaced players >.<

Could you tell me what your point is?

Do you have the mind of a goldfish? I'm trying to understand a point

you

made. Clearly, it must've been a complete fabrication too, since you can't be bothered to explain it, so I'll just disregard it and your thoughts.

Unvote

Considering we've had 12 million replacements in this game on Day 1 I'm giving AP noms for best replacement, 3+ new pages to read with content, eep. But he's wrong about his slot being obv town before.

I'm agreeing with the absta lynch though. Not liking the attempt at sarcasm either. Hard to know what to make of it all without a flip, ergo

Vote:absta

V/LA till after Monday. Happy Easter everyone.

There is nothing in this post, and even your ISO, that explains why you think Absta is scum.

The way Absta is persuing his scum reads looks town. It's the way that he reads me as town and then aggressively starts looking for my potential buddies based on interactions.

Unvote

^ That post you quoted has a reason in it. I've mentioned him before as a scumspect. Look harder.

RachMarie - she's done very little.

That's alignment indicative?

SafetyDance - attacks people for voting BEF despite not having a read on BEF. Makes weak attacks on people and doesn't follow through.

Don't understand this at all or the attempt at character assassination. I'm trying to figure out just

what

I haven't followed through with. Help me out?

With deadline approaching, happy to join the RY wagon. Apart from what's been said I don't like his pushiness to get others to elaborate whilst not doing anything himself.

Vote: RandomYoshi

I am asking you to be mod-killed based on site-rules about discussion of current games. Fuck your claim.

There is no town motivation for this.

There is no town motivation for wanting to play a game by the rules outlined and agreed upon by everyone playing this site?

There's no town motivation for you to be this dense.

Vote:Zdenek

I feel like SD would actually try to get you modkilled for that

Obvious joke comparison is obvious.

I will remember this Bacde, we all will.

Zed is mod confirmed scum now.

I love how you make such an emphatic statement and follow it up with just as emphatic reasoning.

You could totally make the Bible Belt vote Obama with such persuasiveness.

Well SD is voting me for non-alignment related reasons, and he's attacking Absta who is saying that I am scum. Him trying to underminine Absta makes no sense.

Unvote
Vote: SafetyDance

Oh look, spot the OMGUS. Also spot the comprehension fail from a player who's incapable of reading and comprehending what the words 'mod' and 'confirmed' mean when they're put together at the from of another word.

Btw,

Well SD is voting me for non-alignment related reasons

There is no town motivation for this.

MAKE UP YOUR MIND

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

In post 756, SafetyDance wrote:I am asking you to be mod-killed based on site-rules about discussion of current games. Fuck your claim.

There is no town motivation for this.

See. This post is where I think SD has to be town.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

We should kill Bacde.

Brb.

Yeah DGB and I were just talking about this in our QT. More from us in a bit.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

I was dropping hider crumbs all day so that the scum team would pick up on it:

Yeah DGB picked up on it.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

I was clearly being deceptive as fuck in the first place with my BP claim?

Yes I realized that, but you claimed a 1-shot BP, you looked like a hider trying to draw the NK to me. I gambit as town all the time, I think I can tell a gambiting townie from a fakeclaiming scum.

RachMarie... too townie? Unlikely to be doc-protected? Maybe loud players have town reads on scum, so they're letting us live?

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

The scumteam clearly bought my hider story

You know I love you AP but you may be overestimating your adversaries.

I breadcrumbed hider hints in a game that I thought were over-the-top obvious, emphasizing them with

bolds

,

italics

.

underlines

and

large text

for crissakes, and no one picked them up until after I was dead. I even think that was a large theme game because I tend to play mostly those, so there was a whole crowd and no one picked it up while I was alive.

I am disappointed that you full claimed without everyone having showed up yet. That was not the optimal timing. We would have been able to see who might have picked up on it, and who might not...

I do agree that Bacde looked bad, and Zoidberg pointed out to me how Bacde started an early wagon on Xegarus/Zdenek, who responded with

"What the fuck is this shit?"

and I agree with Zoidberg that this sounds an awful lot like scum upset about being bus'ed.

I haven't taken a deep look at Bacde yet, but right now I'd lynch him before SD, because SD asked for Zdenek to be MODKILLED. You may want to look at the circumstances of this, in the off-chance that this is scum asking for their scumpal to be mod-obliterated.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Let's say I'm scum and I pick up a hider crumb that's targeting my buddy.

What do I do? The hider will die and my buddy will still be alive and he'll be auto-lynched. That would be pretty much an inevitable outcome.

So I'd kill whoever I'd normally kill anyway, and bus the living daylights out of my surviving buddy for town cred. I'd made sure to be first in line, and nightkill the hider next time he breadcrumbs hiding behind a townie for a 2-for-1.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

I iso'd RachMarie last night, I may have been tired, but her postings seemed very amorphous, if there were people she was rabidly convinced were scum, I must have skipped those parts.

I'm going to go with "unlikely that a RachMarie NK would be thwarted or detected" as the reason. There is one scum down and one NK thwarted, they have to go SAFE.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Lol, no. I watch games, Im in games, Im not talking about where my read is coming from eof.

Im in hyper-troll mode this game and I love it.

I love how you don't bother to reply when

I

say it.

Look at your post and when it was made. You are calling me scum based on reads from the games I have played. Otherwise you have no basis. If it is based on games going then you should apologise and renege otherwise,

I am asking you to be mod-killed based on site-rules about discussion of current games

. Fuck your claim.

That'll teach you to troll.

Post in question:

P.s. SD's attempts at compromise recently feel off; like I know hes capable of getting frustrated over annoying/bad play and he doesn't feel like he really is, but kind of implies he is. If that made sense to anyone.

Wait a minute. SD was asking for AP to be modkilled, NOT Xegarus/Zdenek.

Well. That changes a lot of things.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Well.

Look at that.

I really really like that Bacde post.

Majiffy was once RandomYoshi, and once MsMarangal. Marangal quit this game and signed up for another the next day in the queue. So that was a really fishy replace out. RandomYoshi was unengaged and working the game's margins, and I wanted to lynch him bad. Majiffy - I'll always vote, vig, or NK Majiffy in any game to make him disappear faster. In the game, he's done literally nothing but post from the sidelines just like RandomYoshi.

I have to re-read Revenus.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Hey, who was calling RachMarie "town" yesterday?

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Meh. I'm not seeing anyone with town-boner for Rach.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Another iso down, IFM is a very good scum candidate. Lots of excuses and sounds very artificial.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

He dropped a scum slip about the night kill.

kashoodles can you explain the above?

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Also iso'd Hiraki, Hiraki =/= scum.

Currently narrowing it down to Majiffy & IFM.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

With a dash of kashoodles, actually, I'm looking forward to his answer to the above question.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Rach was basically a null read at best for everyone. Why NK someone that no one think is prob town?

Safety.

One NK wasted. One scum down. Things aren't looking good. Gotta go with "safe."

That's one theory.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Ok. I was in a game where scum clearly killed HavingFitz BECAUSE they 'knew' I was targeting their buddy and Fitz was the one kill that could mitigate that.

I don't see how any kill can mitigate a hider breadcrumbing a target on your buddy.

There's really no choice but to rage-bus your buddy the next day, having previously warned him in the QT to shut up and let it happen.

If you're even considering me as scum, your powers of logic aren't as good as you think.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Who did Rach find town/scum?

SD to some extent, but this is RachMarie, so it's pretty nebulous. Was RachMarie's SD's most vocal and potentially successful antagonist?

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

He did by the way. This was SD talking to me about RY and he apparently meant to say "RY wasn't the lynch either" but he said "Ry wasn't the NK either" and it was confusing at first until he explained it.

Mmm, yeah.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

The story I am referencing is evidence of a scumteam doing exactly what you are saying they shouldn't/wouldn't do and Im pretty sure you don't have any counter examples, so tellmemore.jpg.

It never happened to me, just guessing what I'd do in the situation.

BTW if I had any power to NK, Majiffy would be dead. Even if he were my scumpal. He'd have to roleblock me to survive. [/there is a bit of truth in every joke]

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

But my confirmation bias is tingling so heavily in your direction.

I expect apologies from you after the game. Some words about a desire to improve would be great.

I mean - I think you're suggesting that I'm scum who shot RachMarie knowing you'd hider-target my buddy SafetyDance? I could shoot SafetyDance along with you and claim vig, I could shoot Majiffy for the joy of it, Bacde because he's smart, let the lurkers decide the game as I charm them into voting each other.

But no, I came into the day thinking, AP did a good thing, I'll present the information without giving away his claim so that we have a list of confirmed townies and work down the list by PoE, and I'm iso'ing everybody, looking things up, eliminating people...

If you had a brain, you'd KNOW I can only be town.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Lol ^. If Bacde is scum, then SD is definitely scum.

@Zoid: Ok. I'll keep an open mind when/if I do that reread. But you saying "I could have shot my scum buddy SD", "I could have shot Majiffy because ???", and "I could have shot Bacde" and then saying "But no, I decided to be protown" is ???

None of that proves anything about your alignment - that is just speculation on people you may have killed that aren't RM. And if you were scum, you would have killed SD if he were town. Without a doubt.

I have to point out the obvious because you have blinders on. Really you should be able to come up with this yourself.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Also you keep tossing RM around like she made sense as an obvious safe kill for scum and simultaneously saying it would have been retarded of you to kill her.

I AM RECKLESS. I'm not your average player.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Zoid is town, I'm town, everybody's town cept Bacde and Kash.

AP is borderline crazy.
VOTE: Bacde

If this takes too long i'm gonna claim guilty on Bacde. That would make this too easy though.

"AP is borderline crazy" - it's sheep time for me.

VOTE: Bacde

I guess I was wrong about Bacde.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Also you keep tossing RM around like she made sense as an obvious safe kill for scum

Your lines of thinking are insane.

Given that she's been killed, it's obvious the scum went for the safe choice.

Had she not yet been killed, and I was scum making that decision, that wouldn't have been my decision.

You are as illogical as my parents were. You really need to work on that. The "thinking straight" business.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Mod, IFM hasn't posted since last thursday. isn't he due for a prod?

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

That's some reading skills. I'll sleep better at tonight knowing town is safe in your hands.

Do you have anything constructive to add or are you just going to sit on the sidelines and snipe at posts that DGB already corrected?

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

That's some reading skills. I'll sleep better at tonight knowing town is safe in your hands.

Sorry I had picked up the quote in another post, out of context.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

UNVOTE: Meh. I can touch SD's emotions. He's not scum.

"Happy to lynch: Majiffy, Kash, IFM, Rev": this is a most excellent list. Can you share your order of preference and your rationale?

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Yates was fakeclaiming Cop as a hider

God that's a stupid strategy, where does this dumbass site meta come from... it needs to DIAF.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

AP, because you think we're scum, I have no confidence at all in your powers of deduction.

Bacde gives me such good feelings.

And SD... he's sounding good to me. His outrage comes from a good place.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

It worked well because he managed to sponge the scum NK on a night and conftown a BP role.

Yes and you also could get the real cop to CC, and sponge off every good town power into the void of your fakeclaim.

Why would Bacde kill Rach?

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Losing interest in this game at a maddeningly rapid pace.

Great! That means you're scum. It's like shooting fish in a barrel. You could at least fight a little. You know, to give the town a little thrill.

VOTE: Majiffy

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Yeah, yeah.

This is a scum who see the writing on the wall and knows he's going to lose, and now he's pretending not to care to save his puny little pride. He's cornered; one missed NK, one partner town, several confirmed townies, a short scum list he's on, with his remaining buddy.

"Still happy with my vote on a townie, I'm not going to read the game, it's Zoidberg's fault, I wasn't interested in the game in the first place so that scum loss doesn't really count."

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

EBWOP one partner Down

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

I will add that Majiffy/Yoshi/Marangal have done collectively ZERO and now Majiffy is making pre-emptive excuses for future lurkage.

Stop looking for complicated explanations, scum doesn't get more butthurt and obvious than that.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

That majiffy vote is pretty bad.

You should sheep it.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

rofl. That confirmation bias. Town is also capable of not giving a shit.

I can feel

his

emotion. The butthurt. It's overwhelming.

Trust my experience with this. I think you tend to look for predictable actions in your scumhunting, while I think actions are not very predictable at all. But I read a post like Majiffy, it inhabits my mind, and the emotional content of it is revealed to me as scum.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Totally nothing to do with SD insulting him or anything.

Nah. Majiffy doesn't get insulted. He likes to dish it out. He doesn't get insulted. He thinks "insulted" is for the weak.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

-DGB

I was going to belittle everything you said in this post, then I saw who said it.

Imagine my shock and surprise.

And you think Majiffy took his ball and went home like a whiny little boy because SD told his his play is shit?

NAH

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Great!

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Mod, IFM hasn't posted since last thursday. isn't he due for a prod?

The current day phase hasn't even been open for 24 hours yet so I don't think he is due for a prod. I can send him a friendly poke if you would like.

Yeah I guess you're right, sorry. The Activity thing can be misleading.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

VOTE: Absta101

Weak and poorly-reasoned vote is weak and poorly-reasoned.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Holy Replacements, Batman.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Just wagon Majiffy and be done with it.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Im definitely starting to feel like Majiffy is just kind of obvscum and makes sense on more teams than most other ppl here.

Yes, like Zdenek's obv fakeclaim, sometimes things are THAT simple and you need to know when to stop second-guessing yourself.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

I am currently waiting for a synopsis that makes sense

I haven't read the previous pages and probably won't

You're voting town, you're not voting scum.

If you want to vote scum, Majiffy is a good start.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

I want Bacde.

Bacde feels VERY TOWN to me.

People tend to greatly overestimate scum. 80% of the time the scum QT is full of lurkerscum, no one is plotting anything and it's totally apathetic and derpy. That's even when I'm there trying to push activity and get my scumpals involved and having the mod prod them at night.

No one is outguessing you.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

You know, AP, one of the reasons why I hammered Zdenek and explained in the

next post

is because I knew some townie would come and second guess himself, and Zdenek's fakeclaim was very ill-conceived and totally bogus. But if you wait long enough, people start to unvote, wah wah wah maybe we have 2 1-shot BP townies, why would he claim this if not true, then (I couldn't predict that at the time) you might have come then and claimed something different and you would have been run up.

It's the same with Majiffy. Marangal lurked and replaced out and signed up for new games the next day, RandomYoshi was so scummy I wanted him to eat rope spaghetti, and now the third incarnation, Majiffy, is completely useless and totally butthurt, too, because his least favorite players correctly pegged him as scum so he's pretending not to care.

AP, Stop trying to think like a champion chess player, your adversaries are playing 52 pick-up.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

talking complete shit.

This may or may not be alignment related according to Zoidberg in our QT.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

I am currently waiting for a synopsis that makes sense

I haven't read the previous pages and probably won't

Why did you replace in, then? This is not town-motivated. Do your own goddamned reading.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

hiraki are you scum again like I spotted you in my very first game on this site in my very first post

Either you're right, again (have you even read the game?) or you're scum talking complete shit.

talking complete shit.

This may or may not be alignment related according to Zoidberg in our QT.

-DGB

On this topic, go read the Adventure Time large theme. Mollie has demonstrated she can play an incredibly anti-town game despite having a town PM. I urge caution before hammering her, is all.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Such was my point

--zoidberg

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

[quote="In post 1092, AngryPidgeon"I think someone knew I was lying.[/quote]About the BP claim, you mean?

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Fail.

Lying about the BP claim, you mean?

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

I hope ppl will trust my antics today, I swear I have a method to my madness.

If it makes sense, I'm on board; but right now I think Majiffy is more sure-fire scum. You still have that track, right? We'll make sure you're alive to tell the tale.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

I may or may not be a doctor, I don't expect to double-check my role PM until night etc.

Important skills for mafia include "knowing when to sheep" and "knowing when to shut up."

You should practice that last one

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Sorry I don't youtube, that's for you all yung'uns.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

It's like you've convinced yourself that your reads are infallible and that you are the best/most insightful player in the game.

Hubris is going to hurt you in the end.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Think about what you're doing. You're considering joining

Pirate Mollie

and

Mafiffy

on a D3 policy lynch.

Honestly. That right there ought to give you pause.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

That's only slightly worse than joining Umbrage and Umbrage on a D3 policy lynch.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

I'm getting more and more sure that one of Zoid/Bacde are scum.

At best you're 50% on this, and I have a really good town feeling on Bacde, so meh.

Maybe instead of "working this shit out carefully" you should get really drunk and play the game under the influence. Loosen up, you know? Feeeeeeeel the game, get into that grooooooooooove.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

You're not posting drunk like I said you should.

I already claimed vanilla.

Now I just left a hint that maybe just maybe I lied and I'm the doctor and I'll protect you so that the scum has to KILL ME FIRST and LEAVE YOU ALIVE to track whoever you want and survive to report it.

I am very disappointed in your lack of reasoning, for a guy that makes a loud announcement every time he has two neurons firing about the same time.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Seriously, no one seems to play the game anymore, with Hiders now claiming cop Day 1 and players not shutting up and reading between the lines when it's time to do so, and voting with Majiffy and mollie who are literally stalking me to policy lynch me.

AP, again, I am very, very disappointed in your performance in this game. The disconnect between the amount of "thinking" you are doing and the wrongness of your various and ever-changing conclusions is astounding. You really need to "think" less and listen more to others. You're not the only one that can have a plan. You have to pay more attention to the subtle signals instead of shooting like Luke Skywalker at the Dark Star or whatever that shit was.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

WE WERE ASKED TO COME INTO THIS GAME. WE DIDN'T KNOW

YOUR DUMB CUNT ASS

WOULD BE HERE. WE'RE NOT STALKING YOU. YOU'RE FUCKING STALKING ME. JESUS FUCK

Watch your mouth, DGB is a class act and you're a piece of shit.

Replace out if you're so butthurt.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Maybe I am that dumb but when did you claim

I dunno. Maybe wrong game. I thought I claimed or alluded.

It doesn't matter.

Instead of jumping to the wrong conclusion immediately you should UNTHINK and little bit, and maybe after a few drinks to loosen up your brain, you'd realize that there is only one thing I could have been doing, is to WIFOM the scum into giving me the bullet instead of giving it to you, because you know you're getting a bullet tonight.

I was plotting to take it.

That's why I said to you "shut up" but NOooooooooooooooooooooooo you have to "think"

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

DGB what if he's scum

Why are you assuming he's town

We killed the SK, so we don't have to deal with scum looking for other scum.

Incorrect as they are, AP's tightly-wound "problem-solving" efforts can only come from a town perspective, that's why I'm

chiding

him, but not calling him scum. This would be soooooo much effort and sooooo much fakery and soooooooo un-necessary, too, no way this comes from scum.

I have a town-read on absta (against the grain on Day1), and he confirmed absta.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

If AP is confirmed town forgive me I haven't read, in film class.

Edit: You guys are such babies lol

He's not confirmed town, but we both just have a pretty good town read on him. He's just misguided.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

DGB, I want a final honest to god claim from you. And if you take it back later I will lynch you like the fury of 1000 suns.

Im dead serious.

If you stupidly insist. We are vanilla. So enjoy that scum bullet tonight.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Yo DGB could you link me some scum game where you used a ton of AtE like you're doing here?

If you deny you have any I'll be looking myself.

I AtE the hell out of every game, scum, town, third party, cult, Dead QT... maybe some games I am not even in.

Emotion is how I read other people, I expect they can do the same for me.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

I'll take it and I'll like it.

I already know who your buddy is if you flip scum. That RM kill was telling.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Hey AP what do you think about IFM currently?

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

I don't know what's become of you, AP, you used to be good. We were in a NY game, and I had a lot of respect for your performance.

In this game your play is 50 layers of twisted, incorrect conclusions and tormented shooting from the hip.

Anyway, maybe after the game, you'll think about what I've been saying all this game and get back to that level back when I saw you in NY.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

One problem, AP, is that I'm town, and that your vote in company of mollie & jiffy who are unashamedly ganging up to policy vote me after tandem-replacing in a game, on Day 3, is really super-derp. My alignment is of no concern to them.

If I'm unconcerned with your plans, it should be a pretty solid tell that I'm town. But you're blind, you really only see yourself and your mirror, you're not paying attention to your team mates.

And again, you might have been cooking things up, but your exclusive focus on your little plans prevented you from realizing that

I was volunteering to take your bullet.

That's really bad play, regardless of whatever else you're doing.

Enjoy playing alone...

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

DGB is right in that I have just been trolling all game and doing very elaborate things. And she is right that that makes me town.

But her unconcern with whatever I may be cooking up that Im so excited about

and her insistence that Im an idiot and not acting with extra info that Im holding in my hand is off.

I can explain my play when this is all said and done. Obviously I am experimenting a bit this game and there is a reason for that.

Well, the "call him a retard" post was Zoid, not DGB.

As for being unconcerned, what exactly were you hoping for? A constant barrage of posts going "pls ap tell us wat ur cooking up omg pls pls pls"

I mean we could do that if you really really really want. But when you keep dropping vague hints like "tee hee, I'm cooking something up and it's going to be awesome!" it just instills apathy. Your reaction-fishing attempts have been obvious, and there's no point in reacting to hypothetical revelations until they are no longer hypothetical, savvy?

Shit, wrong account, sorry.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

And again, you might have been cooking things up, but your exclusive focus on your little plans prevented you from realizing that I was volunteering to take your bullet.

No, I definitely picked up on the subtext of what it meant.

So you picked up that I was volunteering for your bullet, and you're voting me?

With mollie & jiffy.

You didn't pick up on anything.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

But I don't think you are town, so you know.

Well then, you're not as good as you think you are, and instead of looking for scum I'm wasting all my time trying to knock some sense into a deaf-blind townie, which makes me really sad.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

What do you think about IFM?

Maybe Zoidberg can answer that, you're so frustrating I don't even know what game I'm in anymore.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

What do you think about IFM?

I personally think he's scum. DGB I think is null on him.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

The Marangal/RYoshi/Majiffy playerslot has got to be scum, that much I'm very certain of, having nothing to do with Majiffy personally.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

And seriously you are calling me an idiot because I didn't trust the motivation behind your soft claim WHEN I THINK YOU ARE SCUM.

Yeah

Who claims doctor????

Doctor claim = you're next to die at night

That's pretty set in stone, especially with a PR outed, they know I'd protect you and they'd have to kill me first!

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Instead of calling AP bad could you just do town shit like tell us who scum is

Calling AP bad is only going to help scum because then everyone will be like "Oh dont listen to AP, he was wrong. In fact lets lynch him!" (assuming townflip)

The Marangal/RYoshi/Majiffy playerslot has got to be scum, that much I'm very certain of, having nothing to do with Majiffy personally.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

IFM

I posted this yesterday.

So I'd lynch the Majiffy or IFM playerslot today.

I'm also against lynching AP, that's not happening.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

You never claimed Doctor and given your lack of faith in the scumteam:

Who else would you say could?

Haha. Not the scum, obviously, so we're not looking for rocket scientists.

-DGB

In this post you very clearly felt that the scumteam was too dumb to pick up on my INCREDIBLY OBVIOUS CRUMBS.

But you expect them to pick up on that one so assuredly?

Gee I wonder if opinions change.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

VOTE: Bacde

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

You never claimed Doctor and given your lack of faith in the scumteam:

Who else would you say could?

Haha. Not the scum, obviously, so we're not looking for rocket scientists.

-DGB

In this post you very clearly felt that the scumteam was too dumb to pick up on my INCREDIBLY OBVIOUS CRUMBS.

But you expect them to pick up on that one so assuredly?

One can always hope. If I made it

really

obvious, the scum would know it's a bluff. Actually hard-claiming doc is super-stupid, plus I'd risk outing an actual doc if there is one.

I tried to make it sound like I wasn't obvious while being obvious - and hoped that a doctor would not CC because I hadn't claimed the role, just saying "I'd make sure you're alive" tomorrow.

It was my best shot at taking the shot. I'm vanilla, I'm dispensable.

I really thought about this wording.

Thanks for ruining my plan.

Capice?

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

BBmolla you replaced into a scum playerslot didn't you?

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

The above post is directed towards my sponsors, Doctor Zoidberg MD. Life threatening surgery? Why not Zoidberg!

Refresh my memory: Beheading your species: Fatal, or non-fatal?

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Hey outstanding, only one tumour left in this thread. Welcome, HD.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

so we're lynching bacde?

cool.

is he scum?

That's what the claimed cop says - and Bacde was sending me such groovy town vibes.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

^ But the explaining will happen after the game.

Fair enough, in the mean time you can call us "town" with 100% confidence.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Hi Zoid.

You town?

Oh there's a cop too? Who is it?

Absta claimed cop just a page or two ago.

Don't pull a Mollie please. You should read the thread in your spare time tonight.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Fair enough, in the mean time you can call us "town" with 100% confidence.

Only if I can airquote town when I say it.

Also given recent events, I would say there is a very high likelihood of IFM scum.

One thing I brought up in our QT is that, given:

-Randomly assigned roles
-You are town

Then there is a 66% chance that IFM is scum based just on the numbers. Couple that with his mediocre posting, and it don't look good for IFM from my perspective.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

I claim Jack of all Claims.

@DGB: I dont think the neighborhood was random, I think it was put in the game specifically which is part of why I kept talking about not wanting to lynch IFM on D1.

I think the neighbourhood was included on purpose, too. But that's not what I'm saying.

Do you think the neighbour roles weren't randomly assigned?

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Bacde is last-minute flailing? Why didn't he bring up that absta stuff before?

I thought absta was soft-claming a cop-result before, then he backed off, but Bacde hasn't brought it up until now.

It's exactly to avoid that kind of second-guessing that I hammered Zdenek.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

IFM has 16 posts, I love the timing and content of his most recent one.

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

I haven't brought up what til now?

That he was fakeclaiming a guilty on you.

Because he did that early in the day, I picked up on it and voted you, but then absta made another post that sounded like he was backing off giving cop-result breadcrumbs.

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

Hi desk Hi head desk-head-desk-head-desk-head-desk-head-desk-head-desk-head-desk-head-desk-head-desk-head

overthinking again

-DGB

[Doctor Zoidberg MD]

why would you say that to someone that you've hider-cleared as town?

Because if you are town, I want him to fess up to not being a cop obviously.

It's day 3, one scum down, SK down.

A cop claims a guilty on Bacde, we lynch Bacde, no questions asked.

-DGB