Gears of War Mafia - ( Game Over! )

[havingfitz]

I see mollie around, but shes lurking in this thread! Clearly she and mala rolled scum. Which is ok, I expect them to implode if they did ^ ^.

Yes you got us we rolled scum. ;o!

^ confession.

VOTE: Piratecat

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Fcuk.....340 posts already..... I'm phone posting today so catching up is gonna take awhile.

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mod...I'm v/la from 1pm est today until next Monday (25th) morning.

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OK...back from v/LA. I have a lot of catching up to do in all my games and will try to get to them all asap.

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Ok...read/skimmed 25 pages and ~caught up. Painful. I liked Slandaar's post 1042. I'll stay on PirateCat for now.

[havingfitz]

Ok...read/skimmed 25 pages and ~caught up. Painful. I liked Slandaar's post 1042. I'll stay on PirateCat for now.

lol

Something else I find humorous (and frustrating) is that until the last few pages I was considering changing my vote to Slandaar.

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Prodded. D'oh. Just finished a game so should have more time in here.

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Ok...skimmed up. I was still good with the PC wagon which had reached 5 votes but sadly it's no more. Cryo and Messiah both look intriguing but Cryo wagon is as weak as PC's soooo,

VOTE: Messiah

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Ping?

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v/LA until Monday morning (for Easter activities)

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#1406 - "havingfitz does not care who is lynched and that should be screamingly obvious"

#1410 WTF Mac...I'm your recommendation for consensus? Becaaaaaaaaaaaaaause?

#1429 - Thanks for at least acknowledging that I am a town player Mara.

So I'm caught up. wrt to 1406...WTF PC? Where did I ever give the indication I didn't care who I lynched? Nice misrep. iirc I've only expressed an interest in you, Messiah and Cryo. In fact, if I had the option of removing someone I suspected without relying on obtaining a majority...you'd be gone already. But back to the point...nice misrep.

So I'm caught up and I still like the three suspects mentioned above. PC would be my first preference but they do not seem to have the necessary support this close to deadline so I'm on Messiah. However...I feel like I should try to confirm my suspicions and at least do an ISO on Messiah to see if I actually do support their lynch. So here it is:

Post 8 - RVS (null)

Post 121 - Votes ANG for making a scum post. (which I do not see....i.e. bad)

Post 123 - Says the use of meta (by ANG against AP I assume???) was really fcuking terrible. (ok)

Post 155 - Trys to explain his reason for voting ANG. (not seeing it myself)

Post 159 - Giving mastin flack for setup speculation. (null)

Post 160 - Nothing. (null)

Post 347 - Content post. Justifying earlier vote on ANG. Calls mastin and Mara scum (w/o reason).

Post 890 - Gives reasoning for absence (being in a hospital bed). (null)

Post 911 - Questions Slandaar. (ok)

Post 917 - Questions GIF. (ok)

Post 920 - Gives an FYI. (null)

Post 928 - Repeats Slandaar question. (ok)

Post 932 - Votes Slandaar w/o reasoning. (null)

Post 1070 - Reprimands and questions Slandaar. Says AP is likely town. (ok)

Post 1079 - Debates with Slandaar. (ok)

Post 1085 - Seems to be saying Slandaar is coming across "genuinely emotional" vs "a scummy panic thing" (but still voting him)

Post 1088 - Continues debating with Slandaar. (fine)

Post 1092 - Provides reason for not answering PC question. (null)

Post 1189 - Answers PC questions. Asks me about my typical catch up walls (not always and not when I do not have time to). More Slandaar exchange. (fine)

Post 1505 - Says he is not here but he is kind of here. (bad)

Post 1552 - Reiterates post above. (meh)

OK....so looking over Messiah more closely...I'm doubting my read on him (which granted, was primarily from post-skimming catch up iirc's). Probably the main thing after ISOing him that has me thinking about staying on his wagon is that there are a few folks on his wagon I have leaning town. Whereas the other frontrunner atm, Slandaar, has not been a scumread of mine and at one point or another has had the people I have suspected the most supporting it.

While looking into Messiah's exchanges with ANG (ISOing them together) I started to think ANG/Viomi could be scum. And Viomi certainly hasn't done anything to townify the slot.

I'd probably vote Messiah over a No Lynch but I do not think I like it over PC, Cryo (who I need to ISO) and now ANG/Viomi. I might try to do an ISO on Slandaar too to see what all the fuss is about but atm I do not see me moving on his wagon.

tl:dr;

Messiah falls down my suspect list a bit upon further review. Just ahead of a No Lynch option.

Back to VOTE: PirateCat.

[havingfitz]

So why KoC and bork?

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P.edit @bork...

Well...there's seven votes not on Slandaar...Messiah...or PC. So anything is possible. Don't make it out like it is.

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At bork...you yourself seem to prefer PC to Slandaar and Messiah yet you gave up on her wagon days ago. You should try voting who you really think is scum. I'm back on PC because my read on Messiah is not as strong after closer review.

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Jal, what do I have to do to convince you to vote Piratecat with me?

You aren't voting PC so wtf are you talking about.

It's not too late to get a PC lynch. Anyone not inclined to vote one of the claimed players should move to PC now.

I wasn't supporting a Slandaar wagon to begin with and I believe Messiah's claim so he's out. I have no idea what the push on Buldermar is based on.

PC and Viomi are only two I'd support. I'm around all morning. I think we have less than 2 or 3 hours left.

[havingfitz]

Oh and also, why the fuck would you want the cop to investigate someone you think is town?

Vote PirateCat people.

[havingfitz]

Messiah and qwints...why are you voting buldermar?

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Mod...Slandaar isnt voting Messiah...he's voting Viomi.

Jal...in a game this size there's no reason there couldn't be a cop and a watcher.

[havingfitz]

Zzzzzzzzzzzzz

73+ pages to get to a no lynch. Beautiful.

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~33 minutes till deadline and our leading wagon is on a claimed watcher. And my main suspect is championing the only alternative atm to Messiah and Slandaar.

VOTE: Viomi

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Great...we're getting a no lynch AND an autobiography account from PC. So not a total fcuking wasted day.

I hope there are at least 3 nks.

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Oh and also, why the fuck would you want the cop to investigate someone you think is town?

Vote PirateCat people.

Sure

VOTE: PirateCat

Oh ffs....VOTE: PirateCat

20 minutes left. C'mon Slandaar.

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Love the especially worthless end of day contributions from Colonel Guile, Mac & Viomi.

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She had me convinced D1...

VOTE: PirateCat

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@PC...I'm not sheeping anyone tyvm. This is just D1 v.2.

If Slandaar is lying why aren't you voting him?

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Slandaar....how do you know you weren't RB'd?

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PirateCat, Goat, Slandaar, havingfitz, Buldermar

Ergo, these people need to be lynched and/or vigged immediately for willingly and knowingly playing anti-town.

VOTE: Slandaar
Also I consider the fact that of the two competing wagons, neither went through, means one or both were scum wagons. So I suggest we start with Slandaar.

Other than the line beginning with "Ergo"...this post makes some sense. Obviously I think PC is the way to go. I have suspicions towards Goat to. I have not been interested in Slandaar but of the two claims...I think Messiah is more likely to be true if one of them isn't. Slandaar could have come in to today with guns blazing against PC in what could be a 1v1 situation that just gets him through today (looking doubtful) as he was lined up to be the lynch most likely anyway. I'll ISO him tomorrow but as I've said...up till now I have not considered him scum.

OK…so anyway….this:

Slandaar....how do you know you weren't RB'd?

Got this me this:

Slandaar....how do you know you weren't RB'd?

...this convenient prompting really makes me wonder if you're Slandaar's buddy.

Slandaar....how do you know you weren't RB'd?

This looks really scummy as I think most town players would just bring it up, e.g., "we can't know if he was role blocked".

Whereas these went unscathed:

@Slandaar- So you attempted to Masonize PirateCat, and no masonry was formed?
Do you still have your one-shot left, or is it gone?

If town we mason if not town I get a negative result.

I interpreted getting a negative result as different from getting no result i.e. he could tell the difference between targeting scum and being rb'd. Slandaar, can you clarify?

Slandaar, do you have any reason to believe you were role blocked?

Why’s that KoC and Buldermar?

Also at Slandaar….could you explain why you are so confident that PirateCat is scum? Assuming it is something that occurred during the evening. I suspect her either way but it would be nice of you to share before you are lynched.

I also wouldn't mind lynching Fitz

You’ve made that obvious several times. Why don’t you stop dancing around the subject and make a case on me.

Slandaar....how do you know you weren't RB'd?

...this convenient prompting really makes me wonder if you're Slandaar's buddy, especially given how heavily you've pushed Messiah and Piratecat wagons this game when you haven't been contributing sweet fuck-all or complaining about people allowing a no-lynch to happen while voting for VIOMI of all people until just 20 minutes before deadline.

If you are inclined to vote a claimed PR who you don’t have a scum read on then by all means…GO FOR IT. I am not inclined to do so so piss off. And it only looks like sweet fuck-all because D1 was 75+ pages. I guess I could have posted a lot of worthless one-liners like you to contribute more but I prefer not to.

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bjork's comment about Messiah's testimony prompted me to go see wtf he was talking about. I missed Messiah's "watched PirateCat" comment.

Slandaar...care to explain?

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UNVOTE:

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VOTE: Slandaar

[havingfitz]

I can pretty much confirm that PirateCat is town. Just keep that in mind if I'm killed/lynched - thanks.

What?

Just before you kept calling us scum and now we are confirmed town?

What.the.hell?

^ This...

[havingfitz]

I can pretty much confirm that PirateCat is town. Just keep that in mind if I'm killed/lynched - thanks.

What?

Just before you kept calling us scum and now we are confirmed town?

What.the.hell?

^ This...

VOTE: buldermar

[havingfitz]

I can pretty much confirm that PirateCat is town. Just keep that in mind if I'm killed/lynched - thanks.

What?

Just before you kept calling us scum and now we are confirmed town?

What.the.hell?

^ This...

VOTE: buldermar

I explained this so read my explanation and tell me why you don't trust it or fuck off.

If by explain you mean Post 2031 then my vote stands. Poor explanation/excuse.

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Just saw Messiah's result on buldemar. Not sure it changes my opinion but regardless...

VOTE: Mac

P.edit...stfu buldemar. If there was more to your lame response...provide a link. If you didn't multipost and quote a dumbass maybe you'd be easier to read.

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Majiffy never reads me right so no surprise there.

@PerV wrt the buldy explanation you quoted. I'm not convinced one way or the other on buldy atm. Before the back and forth on PirateCat (pointed out by PC) I was leaning town on buldy. Then when PC pointed out what was potentially a major disconnect it looked bad towards buldy. Not sure Messiah's watch result on buldy means anything. As for the explanation though...doing an ISO on buldy w/ PC, I do not see where PC indicated any kind of innocent on buldy as is mentioned in Post 2085. Granted I do most of my reading (like now) over the phone and could have missed it but if that perceived ~innocent claim on buldy by PC could be highlighted it might back me even further off my current buldy suspicions. At this point though if PC and messiah aren't inclined to vote buldy I fine waiting to see how things progress otherwise. And no PerV...I'm not scum.

WTF Bacde.

@Messiah...and why would I, if i was scum, eliminate you as a lynch candidate (before you even claimed) if you were in fact town and a leading candidate to the D1 lynch?

Caught up for now. Busy the rest of the morning and most likely 4-5 pages behind again by the time I get another chance to chime in.

[havingfitz]

I never saidyou were scum? Ms Marangal asked me how you behaved towards my wagon and I explained it as best as I could recall.

I didn't necessarily think you were calling me cum... just felt like expounding on your comment.

@buldemar...try not to be such a dick. Messiah's result on you in no way clears you so IMO it means nothing. At the most it means take a step back and see if something does come of the results. If it did by some chance clear you please explain how....and expound on the people still voting you. Otherwise your taking offense is bs.

As for you getting all pissy about your excuse for going back and forth about PC...I'm not seeing it. And between 80+ pages...your fcuked up shotgun posting and a 2"*4" screen to review... I wouldn't be surprised if I was missing something. So show me or quit bitching about it.

[havingfitz]

I can't believe I protected the Mafia watcher the ENTIRE FUCKING GAME.

(Okay, maybe I can be a little pissed.)

^ This....

For some reason idnr I thought town's prospects were good a few game days ago. Bleh.

Good game winners.

Thanks for modding Venmar. I don't play the game and didn't really read the flaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaavor but I enjoyed it while I was alive.

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Colonel Guille plants a bomb on Havingfitz ( Successful )

So WTF Guille....did you flip a coin or something to choose me? You don't even mention me until you claim later in the game. fock.

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lol....whatever.