Gears of War Mafia - ( Game Over! )

[Approximately Normal Guy]

VOTE: qwints

[Approximately Normal Guy]

FUCK BITCHES

Vote: Ms Marangal

ACQUIRE NOOSES

I like this guy.

Now accepting any and all scum claims, if anybody would like to step up.

[Approximately Normal Guy]

Gratz, ANG, you just got your first witch hunter on you. I won't give up until you are flip scum.

Witch hunter?

[Approximately Normal Guy]

You're going to have to wait until I roll scum for that to happen by the way.

[Approximately Normal Guy]

KoC, you are chatting with conf-scum. Thought you should know.

It's OK we are buddies. You're just jealous.

[Approximately Normal Guy]

VOTE: GuyInFreezer

He is onto us.

[Approximately Normal Guy]

Yes, ANG, AP is

really

scary when he's on a roll. Stay clear because you may get bird dropping on you.

I ain't fraid of no bird.

*listening to ghostbusters*

[Approximately Normal Guy]

I think GIF is town.

Why for?

[Approximately Normal Guy]

Does it? Seems odd to me to be asking questions about scum's flavor at this point.

[Approximately Normal Guy]

Seems more likely for town to do that than for scum (who would already know) to do that.

I disagree. What does town gain by making that post? Nothing. What does scum gain by making that post? Appearance of activity.

It's not much, but I can't see how it is more town than scum.

[Approximately Normal Guy]

@ANG: I think town could potentially gain a lot by making that post.

It's caused me to townread him; it has the potential for reactions based on the veracity of the assertion.

I had to look up veracity.

conformity to truth or fact; accuracy:

So are you saying scum would react a certain way if he is correct?

[Approximately Normal Guy]

hmmm I'm still not sold. Bork are you scum?

[Approximately Normal Guy]

@ANG: I'm not scum and it boggles me you'd come to that conclusion based on this exchange.

I would hardly call it conclusive, but if you want me to elaborate, I'd be happy to.

AP, on the other hand, seems to be fine concluding that I am scum based on seemingly nothing at all.

[Approximately Normal Guy]

I think GIF is town.

#33 seems genuine.

You say GIF is town because he seems genuine. It seemed like a counterintuitive conclusion to me, so I prodded.

Seems more likely for town to do that than for scum (who would already know) to do that.

You say town is more like than scum because scum would already know the answer to the question. So the implication in this post is that town would ask the question because they genuinely don't know the answer.

@ANG: I think town could potentially gain a lot by making that post.

It's caused me to townread him; it has the potential for reactions based on the veracity of the assertion.

This post you seem to get more conviction in your gut read simply as a result of it being called into question. Now you're saying there's a slew of reasons town could make that post. Plus, you say a town motivation for making the post is that other players (you in this scenario) get a town read from it. Which faction would be more worried about people having town reads on them in the beginning of the game?

tl;dr - Your thoughts on the issue seemed to adjust based on people's reactions.

[Approximately Normal Guy]

It's a gut read based on something I can't prove he wasn't faking -- the gut part is that I don't think he was.

And if he is town, there are reasons for him to have done it other than it just being fluff.

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.

The point I'm making is that the way you handled the issue once it was being discussed doesn't seem consistent with your initial reaction to it.

[Approximately Normal Guy]

@bork: if you read through the thread, however, all your posts that I mentioned were direct responses to me.

@Mac: Ok, but if scum are doing it to appear more town then you are admitting that it is something town is also likely to do.

I disagree with this, by the way. Just because scum player X does something to try to look town, that doesn't mean town would do it.

[Approximately Normal Guy]

Everybody is trolling nobody is scumhunting.

Hi.

[Approximately Normal Guy]

Mac and Mastin are probably town. Mastin is town for the hilarious WIFOM of claiming miller in a game with me. Not going to say much else on that right now. Bork seems town too as does Arcangel, but those are lesser reads.

ANG is still scum.

P-edit: Also lol at mastin. I feel bad for you but only a little : P

This post gives me the impression that you honestly have no reason for calling me scum. Why not make a case instead of just naming me as your only person in the "not a town read" pile?

[Approximately Normal Guy]

How is Mac scummy from that interaction?

[Approximately Normal Guy]

yeah except for 80 and 81.

Its just a vibe, ANG. Didn't really like his 47. Why not call out GIF earlier? Maybe he wasn't on @ 11:08. But its rather convenient that he's on @ 11:20 just in time to agree with AGN. Why do you have an issue with me giving an opinion?

Who said I had an issue with it? You said he was probably scum, I asked why.

Does it? Seems odd to me to be asking questions about scum's flavor at this point.

Then when do I ask this question? During mid-game? I wanted this to get over with before any serious shit starts.

I would argue that you don't ever ask that question because its irrelevant. But it's not really an issue.

you honestly have no reason for calling me scum. Why not make a case instead

Ok, here is my case.

You are not at all concerned about my alignment despite me tunneling on you and being super adamant about it. You are mostly shrugging me off except when I keep insisting that you are scum and you discredit my push by saying I have no case. Thats a really scummy sentiment. You aren't saying that I am scum or that you are town - you are saying that I don't have a case, whilst not passing any judgment on my alignment. Its the mentality that catches me scum a LOT "You can't PROVE I'm scum, ergo I'm town". And you are trying to act like you are carefree, but your posts suggest otherwise.

And look at the above quote. LOOK AT IT. There is no way town says that. Come on. "you 'honestly' have no reason for calling me scum"?? That is from freaking scum who knows he has been caught but doesn't understand how. Lynch that.

Looks like somebody ate a big bowl of confirmation bias for breakfast this morning.

Your case is that I'm scum because you're baselessly tunneling me and I'm reacting casually. Then you misrep my posts. As for the "there is no way town says that" why don't you read me in D1 of Reign of Flame, where I got speed-mislynched because I said something that "only scum says".

[Approximately Normal Guy]

@Angelious Nero, he had he same response to the situation as I did. I was leaning more town on him as a result. You make it sound like he called GIF out in 47, but he didn't. He was questioning why bork would call GIF town. And the whole timestamps argument across a 12-minute span is pretty damn weak.

[Approximately Normal Guy]

Why me? Fry me!

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Approximately Normal Guy

Is this real life?

[Approximately Normal Guy]

Mac and Mastin are probably town. Mastin is town for the hilarious WIFOM of claiming miller in a game with me. Not going to say much else on that right now. Bork seems town too as does Arcangel, but those are lesser reads.

ANG is still scum.

P-edit: Also lol at mastin. I feel bad for you but only a little : P

This post gives me the impression that you honestly have no reason for calling me scum. Why not make a case instead of just naming me as your only person in the "not a town read" pile?

This is a scum post.

vote: ANG

How? Rationalize.

[Approximately Normal Guy]

Your case is that I'm scum because you're baselessly tunneling me and I'm reacting casually. Then you misrep my posts. As for the "there is no way town says that" why don't you read me in D1 of Reign of Flame, where I got speed-mislynched because I said something that "only scum says".

Define your "baselessly tunneling." So far what I see is you getting annoyed by AP calling you scum twice. Also, you're not reacting casually imo, but rather over-reacting.

You asked him a case on him, so he gave you one. If you're gonna counter it, say something better than "you're tunneling me" and "you misrep'd me." Where did he misrep'd you? Point it out.

"baselessly tunneling" - voting me early and encouraging others to vote me without ever providing any justification

How am I over-reacting? Part of AP's case was that I was shrugging him off, then he gives a case and you seem to think I didn't even give a sufficient response, yet I'm

over

-reacting?

The misrep is where he says that my mindset is "You can't PROVE I'm scum, ergo I'm town." That's not my stance. He just wants it to be that way because it supports his case. My stance was that I can't possibly defend myself against him calling him scum when he's not giving any reasoning other than pointing out the fact that he has no reasoning. Plus, he calls me scum for not "calling me[AP] scum or saying you're [ANG] town". Am I not allowed to think AP is town here? And what's the benefit of me saying "I'm town" in the first place?

This wagon is awful.

[Approximately Normal Guy]

@Angelious Nero, he had he same response to the situation as I did. I was leaning more town on him as a result. You make it sound like he called GIF out in 47, but he didn't. He was questioning why bork would call GIF town. And the whole timestamps argument across a 12-minute span is pretty damn weak.

my point exactly. In 47 he echoed your reasoning and made it sound like he had found post 33 scummy but didn't call GIF on it until after you did. Now maybe he wasn't online when GIF posted 33 but I think its quite a coincidence that he just happened to be online 14 mins later to be able to sheep/echo you. Yea its weak, its day 1 with 4 pages but its a slot to watch me thinks.

You're still not getting it. Post 47 he is calling out bork for saying GIF is town. He's not calling GIF scum. So your "why didn't he call him out for it earlier" point doesn't hold water.

[Approximately Normal Guy]

in post 49 it sounds a lot like she was accusing GIF of being scum.

OK. But that's not the post you built your case around.

[Approximately Normal Guy]

Although ANG: what DO you think of AP's alignment right now?

His ISO has 12 posts, and he calls me scum in 3, 4, 5, 7, 9, 10, and 11. He gives reasoning once, in the last one, and the reasoning is terrible. But he does seem to believe he's actually got something. My gut on him is leaning toward cocky town.

[Approximately Normal Guy]

As for the "there is no way town says that" why don't you read me in D1 of Reign of Flame, where I got speed-mislynched because I said something that "only scum says".

This is exactly why I voted for you, and your demand for me to "rationalize" my vote is the same shit. Town doesn't see a vote on them on page 4 and demand a

case

. On page

4

. and then respond to every subsequent vote with crap like "Is this real life? Look how distressed I am! I have no idea what's going on! You better show me why I'm scum so I can defend myself!"

Everything about this post is terrible.

1)The "this is exactly why I voted for you" doesn't even make sense. I cited a previous game where basically the exact same thing happened and I flipped town, and you're saying that's exactly why you voted me.
2)You argue that it's too early (via page numbers) for town to get upset about a vote on them, yet simultaneously argue that your vote is totally legitimate.
2b)You emphasize so strongly the specific page number and don't even cite the correct page.
3)You proceed to call me scummy for questioning the shitvotes I have on me.

[Approximately Normal Guy]

AP votes ANG in post 28, on Tue Mar 19 @10:38a.
Nero Cangel votes ANG in post 115 on Tue Mar 19 @01:17p.
Messiah votes ANG in post 121 on Tue Mar 19 @01:24p.
GIF votes ANG in post 124 on Tue Mar 19 @01:28p.
qwints votes ANG in post 129 on Tue Mar 19 @01:35p.

Yeah, not liking this speed still, but not as bad as I thought.

Why don't you look at my play and pass your own judgment as opposed to focusing on the timeline of the votes?

[Approximately Normal Guy]

This is the spot where I would be joining the ANG wagon if not for -[snip]- I get it, ANG looks like scum to me too, but...that fast?

My point exactly.

[Approximately Normal Guy]

Man Majiffy isn't reading shit.

@ANG: if AP is town, who is scum on your wagon?

GIF looks the worst to me, with Messiah in second.

[Approximately Normal Guy]

I've contributed to both major discussions so far today.

Where did this happen?

[Approximately Normal Guy]

/prod-dodge

I got into a couple games on my home site and as a result let this one fall to the wayside for a couple days. I will catch up once I'm out of class later.