Gears of War Mafia - ( Game Over! )

[Knight of Cydonia]

FUCK BITCHES

Vote: Ms Marangal

ACQUIRE NOOSES

[Knight of Cydonia]

FUCK BITCHES

Vote: Ms Marangal

ACQUIRE NOOSES

I like this guy.

Now accepting any and all scum claims, if anybody would like to step up.

I have that effect on people who aren't regular GD posters. It's cool, just don't get all weird on me and we can hang.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Claim: miller

, again. Obviously, this claim doesn't clear me from being scum, but my play will make it clear soon enough.

Correct miller protocol, but assuming you're serious about this you still can't be allowed anywhere near endgame. Nothing personal, just too much of an unknown quantity.

PEdit: Meta case on Day 1?
You serious, bork?

[Knight of Cydonia]

That seems kinda a reach for this early in a game... I don't even particularly like meta cases at any point in a game, but this early just feels somewhat off.
@Angelius: have both heads posted, or is this just Arc/just Nero so far?

[Knight of Cydonia]

That seems kinda a reach for this early in a game... I don't even particularly like meta cases at any point in a game, but this early just feels somewhat off.
@Angelius: have both heads posted, or is this just Arc/just Nero so far?

So you don't like meta cases, which are mostly completely subjective anyway, and, in addition, bork's meta case feels "off"? Like, he shouldn't be able to produce it, or he produced it badly, or he's wrong, or you want him to think he's wrong?

I think presenting a meta case at any point in a game is silly because a competent player is perfectly capable of manipulating their own meta and recognising their own playstyles. However I'm willing to accept that other people consider it valid scumhunting.
That said, pushing a meta case on a hydra is especially difficult unless both heads are signing off their posts with which head is doing the talking, and doing so this early in a game, when most people are still, to put it simply, shitposting/RVSing, is, yes, "off" to me.
Ideally, I'd like to know which head is posting from our hydras at all times, but especially in this case since bork's suggestion is based on only one head of that particular hydra. I'd also prefer if he came back to doing meta reads later in the game when everyone has a substantive body of posting, which we don't have right now.

[Knight of Cydonia]

but Jiffy...there's like thread content? Why did you not comment?

Because after page 3 my eyes glazed over. I abhor RVS.

What content? Unless you're talking about Mastin's miller claim, which is a non-event, as far as I'm concerned.

@Jiffy, but it's not the weekend. >.>

My weekend extends until Tuesday morning on account of the fact that I work Sat + Sun mornings, and Mon evening.

...

Unvote:
Vote: Majiffy

If you're honestly going to say that we're still in RVS... well, here's some more evidence to the contrary.

[Knight of Cydonia]

didn't comment on ANYTHING and still refuses to do so

Nothing worth commenting on. Problem?

...yeah, I like my vote where it is.

[Knight of Cydonia]

When you notice that there's actually a WHOLE BUNCH OF SHIT HAPPENING instead of just dismissing the people voting you as "idiots" or being snarky, and actually start contributing to the game (assuming what you contribute is actually useful, pro-town stuff), I'll reconsider my vote. Until then? You're doing nothing to help move the game along which does nothing but distract from finding actual scum (if you're town and this is just you being a VI), and producing zero active scumhunting of your own, which means you're either a retard (no bueno) or scum (similarly no bueno).

[Knight of Cydonia]

KoC might be scum hiding behind an easy policy vote. Discuss?

I was thinking a similar notion.

When you notice that there's actually a WHOLE BUNCH OF SHIT HAPPENING instead of just dismissing the people voting you as "idiots" or being snarky, and actually start contributing to the game (assuming what you contribute is actually useful, pro-town stuff), I'll reconsider my vote. Until then? You're doing nothing to help move the game along which does nothing but distract from finding actual scum (if you're town and this is just you being a VI), and producing zero active scumhunting of your own, which means you're either a retard (no bueno) or scum (similarly no bueno).

So instead of contributing to the important things going on, and hunting for scum, you're going to sideline your vote for policy reasons?

Sounds pro-town. Glad you're here to lead by example.

I've contributed to both major discussions so far today.
You've sat on your arse, complained nothing is happened, and then bitched at anyone calling you out for not reading.
Yeah, I think I have the high ground here, Anakin.

[Knight of Cydonia]

The more common term on this site is chainsaw defence.

[Knight of Cydonia]

What the FUCK did I walk back into.

[Knight of Cydonia]

My bad, I kinda have a life outside of MS. (No but for real I have a month until my major deadline for my last year of university so, y'know.)

I claimed because I believe that being alive is pretty important. I don't intend to say anything more then what I have already said.

I can leave you alone for now...

Meanwhile, I want KoC to post. he clearly believed that he contributed to early discussions when his posts really didn't... I want to hear what he thinks he contributed so far

That seems kinda a reach for this early in a game... I don't even particularly like meta cases at any point in a game, but this early just feels somewhat off.
@Angelius: have both heads posted, or is this just Arc/just Nero so far?

So you don't like meta cases, which are mostly completely subjective anyway, and, in addition, bork's meta case feels "off"? Like, he shouldn't be able to produce it, or he produced it badly, or he's wrong, or you want him to think he's wrong?

I think presenting a meta case at any point in a game is silly because a competent player is perfectly capable of manipulating their own meta and recognising their own playstyles. However I'm willing to accept that other people consider it valid scumhunting.
That said, pushing a meta case on a hydra is especially difficult unless both heads are signing off their posts with which head is doing the talking, and doing so this early in a game, when most people are still, to put it simply, shitposting/RVSing, is, yes, "off" to me.
Ideally, I'd like to know which head is posting from our hydras at all times, but especially in this case since bork's suggestion is based on only one head of that particular hydra. I'd also prefer if he came back to doing meta reads later in the game when everyone has a substantive body of posting, which we don't have right now.

but Jiffy...there's like thread content? Why did you not comment?

Because after page 3 my eyes glazed over. I abhor RVS.

What content? Unless you're talking about Mastin's miller claim, which is a non-event, as far as I'm concerned.

@Jiffy, but it's not the weekend. >.>

My weekend extends until Tuesday morning on account of the fact that I work Sat + Sun mornings, and Mon evening.

...

Unvote:
Vote: Majiffy

If you're honestly going to say that we're still in RVS... well, here's some more evidence to the contrary.

When you notice that there's actually a WHOLE BUNCH OF SHIT HAPPENING instead of just dismissing the people voting you as "idiots" or being snarky, and actually start contributing to the game (assuming what you contribute is actually useful, pro-town stuff), I'll reconsider my vote. Until then? You're doing nothing to help move the game along which does nothing but distract from finding actual scum (if you're town and this is just you being a VI), and producing zero active scumhunting of your own, which means you're either a retard (no bueno) or scum (similarly no bueno).

I freely admit I haven't been posting much since p. 13~ when you all went off on this huge explosion of bullshit, but arguing that I didn't contribute to early discussion is kinda a lie.
Would love to hear exactly where all these strong scumreads are coming from btw. Slandaar has never mentioned me except to put me on "probably scum" on a list and then re-iterate that; The Goat accuses me of being scum based on #201 "building a case out of nowhere", which is kinda horseshit since at that point in the game Majiffy was insisting that nothing was happening and playing generally anti-town, something qwints noted was a perfectly valid feeling at this point in the game; and PeregrineV has contributed even less than I had and is still yet to offer any rebuttal to my #201.

Also, re: Majiffy

Tempted to jump on KoC wagon because OMGUS, but Messiah wagon looks promising.

This post is basically saying "I want to throw my vote on this one guy for no valid reason (the definition of OMGUS involves literally no reason but me voting him), but I'm gonna make my also unreasoned willingness to jump on the Messiah wagon (and later do so at the prompting of Pigeon) known so I can point back to it".

In fact, there's a lot of Majiffy/Pigeon interaction that stinks of buddying/prompting.

KoC might be scum hiding behind an easy policy vote. Discuss?

I was thinking a similar notion.

Tempted to jump on KoC wagon because OMGUS, but Messiah wagon looks promising.

This is literally the only mention Majiffy makes of Messiah - as I've previously stated, it's not a case, it's just "yeah, I'll bandwagon that if someone starts her rolling properly...

So, who has a scumread on Messiah, raise your hands. Because I think Slandaar, me, mastin, Nero, Majiffy have all talked about that now. Lets lynch Messiah.

And just like that...

Hokay.

VOTE: Messiah

The AP/Majiffy interaction 632 onwards also feels incredibly forced, somewhat like "oh shit we've been working really close time to quickly distance" forced.
Also, Marangal, that is the most utterly stupid thing I have seen someone do on Day 1 of a game - regardless of alignment, which I'm still not sure of - since I joined this site. Congrats.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Still waiting for you to actually present a case of any kind bro~

[Knight of Cydonia]

lol

One sec, I will get right on that!

Any time now.

[Knight of Cydonia]

lynches happen but they certainly do not need to.

[Knight of Cydonia]

AN: see also my posts re: his buddying/prompting of Majiffy and then suddenly turning about full-circle to distancing within a handful of posts. He's still yet to give a case beyond "hey Majiffy, talk about KoC pushing a policy lynch on you" and that was 15 pages ago, but he's happy to reiterate his desire to lynch me (and like half a dozen other people so far this game) without actually committing to, y'know, putting any reasoning forth (like the majority of the other people he's stated willingness to lynch, oddly enough).

[Knight of Cydonia]

KoC - His posts have been a complaint most of the time.

Ladies and gentlemen... the sum of GIF's mentions of me thus far.

The inability of like, 90% of the people in this game to actually present a case would be hilarious if it wasn't making this game impossible to play anything resembling properly. There are literally so many people just saying "s/he's scum, lynch pls" or daring each other to shitty 1v1s for no shitting reason that with the exception of Majiffy and a small handful of town reads everyone just reads as VI right now.

[Knight of Cydonia]

because questioning my voting patterns is scummy. I don't like scummy questions

...whut

[Knight of Cydonia]

I don't have the time or mental fortitude to put it into words right now, but this is a reminder here to myself to
a) Explain to Slardaar why his 'defence' is fucking awful
b) reread his ISO to see if the rest of his posts have been this awful
c) Remind HIM to put up the case he insisted was coming on me
d) Try and work out whether this actually is multiball or there are just so many VIs it feels like it

[Knight of Cydonia]

KoC you want a case?
KoC is scum for implying he can't be scum unless there is a case on him.

...I... you... what.

[Knight of Cydonia]

KoC you want a case?
KoC is scum for implying he can't be scum unless there is a case on him.

...I... you... what.

Its a logical fallacy to suggest you can't be scum unless there is a case showing you are.

...no. No it isn't. If you accuse someone of scum, there is a burden of proof on you to provide evidence. Otherwise Mafia would be... well, a game of just throwing around random call-outs/OMGUSes. Kinda like the way you play it. Badly.

[Knight of Cydonia]

...I'm genuinely not sure if you're wilfully misinterpreting me at this point or just stupid.

[Knight of Cydonia]

...I'm genuinely not sure if you're wilfully misinterpreting me at this point or just stupid.

...

Its a logical fallacy to suggest you can't be scum unless there is a case showing you are.

...no. No it isn't.

So; if X is scum; Y says they think X is scum but has no case gut etc; X can't be scum?

I see.

Okay, I'm done with this horse shit. You are deliberately taking the argument away from my point.
Let me make it very fucking clear for you.
You have accused me of being scum. This does not, as you seem to have decided, instantly make me scum or preclude the need for you to present a case. Pushing for a lynch without any given reasoning - not even "I have a gut feeling" (something you have NEVER posted regarding me and certainly not whne you first jumped on my burgeoning wagon, as I will show shortly) - is scummy. The fact that you have become even more vehement about me being scum, whilst also becoming even less willing to provide a case as I've pressed you, until suddenly applying this retroactive case

KoC you want a case?
KoC is scum for implying he can't be scum unless there is a case on him.

a full 490+ posts after your first calling me scum with no reasoning

Probably scum
KoC
ANG
Qwints
Maran

and 200+ posts after you promised to actually give a case

lol

One sec, I will get right on that!

makes me think you're scum who just hopped on and/or indicated support for certain wagons that you thought had popular support without actually bothering to come up with a reason to jump on them (see: myself, ANG, to lesser extent Marangal pre-claim).

tl;dr the only case you've given for me to be scum arrived nearly 500 posts after you first called me scum and doesn't actually apply to any of my posts until this exchange -> you are attempting to retrofit a miniscule, poorly built case onto a shameless attempt at positioning yourself on my wagon -> you are probably retarded scum

unvote
Vote: Slaardar

[Knight of Cydonia]

And Slaar goes back to ignoring me.
Yep, I'm pretty sure this is the wagon for today.

[Knight of Cydonia]

@Marangal: I'm not reading Guile as anything, because he's not frakking posting anything. Which worries me since it's so different from both their usual playstyles.

[Knight of Cydonia]

I currently have 5 scum voting me

Its actually hilarious.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Alternatively, we can tell you both to take your stupid plan and bugger off.
All in favour of that idea, say aye?

[Knight of Cydonia]

I'd prefer a 100% chance.

[Knight of Cydonia]

I'm still reading him as town, but I don't like his flip flopping around. Then again when people always flip flop around reads it bothers me because it can easily be done by scum since they can hop around if they please. I learned a really good lesson about tunneling off my other site, but not sure it can apply here since it requires me to ask a player to walk me through their line of thinking and then decide if its town or scum tunneling.

So unless Slandaar wants to walk me step by step regarding his tunneling; I won't bother.

Meh, KoC, is so much different than our first game. Not sure if he tamed. :p I love how he hasn't responded to anything that we have said (meaning our hydra posts)

Your posts remind me of a particularly irksome HS fantroll so I tend to just ignore them, feel free to set whatever points you want addressed out in proper English and I'll get to it.
Also I don't actually remember playing with either of your heads, but then I did have major brain surgery so y'know~

[Knight of Cydonia]

EBWOP: one of your heads' posts

[Knight of Cydonia]

Bitmap, Peregrine, Guile/UN/whoever the fuck is actually bothering to post on that account, AN, Marangal: you all need to get your votes somewhere they're actually going to do shit.
For instance, the Slandaar wagon is lovely this time of year.
Pedit: no, we kinda really just need a couple of people replaced and more pressure tomorrow on the hardcore lurkers of the game like fitz.

[Knight of Cydonia]

The list of people Slandaar ISN'T surprised have survived this far is frankly more exclusive at this point.

[Knight of Cydonia]

DUDE. ONE POST. SERIOUSLY.

[Knight of Cydonia]

...You have to be shitting me.
Can I get a belated fitz wagon?

[Knight of Cydonia]

Good to know Bacde is as insufferable an idiot here as he is in discussion forums.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Why would I be? I am around all day can vote him if I need.

Translation: I will quick hammer Messiah the first change I get.

[Knight of Cydonia]

EBWOP: chance, even

[Knight of Cydonia]

Town. The exact same scenario. Pirate is scum; I made the case and everything.

Now, lets all lynch Messiah so I don't need to claim! Good plan! Yes! And its obvious Messiah is scum he should have claimed yesterday if he wasn't going to be around today to claim. It is interesting to see who voted me though in that time.

VOTE: Messiah

Tally Ho!

I wish I had enough votes to personally lynch you.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Messiah as a watcher > a one shot masoniser, which is hella easy to fake if you just "masonise" your scumbuddy.

[Knight of Cydonia]

I'm not disagreeable to a Bulder lynch, but I still think Slandaar's claim is far too easy to fake, and it hasn't changed my opinion of him.
Disagree with Mollie, a lynch - even a mislynch - gives us information which is something we are desperately in need of due to the number of inactives in this game.
Will be around all day for any last-minute shenanigans.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Every other game in which I've been scum, I've won.

This is hella fallacial son. Just 'cause you won games don't mean you ain't shown tells, just means they ain't been caught.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Like I said, pretty fucking low, and I really debate the validity of a 1-shot masonizer, as I've stated before.

[Knight of Cydonia]

As opposed to an unlimited masonizer or you don't think a masonizer at all is likely?

I think a masoniser of any kind is highly unlikely given the series this game is based on: presumably we're all either human or Locust, which makes a masoniser especially silly if it were to be the kind that wipes previous roles & abilities.
Now let's look at the guy who Slandaar claims to be: Lt. Kim, a character who led a squad of four/five - at odds with being a one-shot masoniser - and died very early on in the series. If this game has a masoniser for some reason, I highly doubt it'd be Kim.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Like I said, pretty fucking low, and I really debate the validity of a 1-shot masonizer, as I've stated before.

if slaandar doesn't mason me like he agreed to then he will be the lynch

so that problem is solved

No offence, but I don't trust you either. Both your heads are too batshit crazy to get a grip on.

[Knight of Cydonia]

KoC: I don't remember him dying early in the series. Link it.

Lieutenant Minh Young Kim was a Gear officer who served in the Coalition of Ordered Governments army during the Locust War, most notably during the Evacuation of Ilima and the Lightmass Offensive. A firm, honorable soldier with a "by-the-book" leadership style, Kim was extremely loyal to the ideals of the COG. He led the mission to rescue Marcus Fenix from Jacinto Maximum Security Prison despite his reservations about a man he regarded as a deserter. He was killed only hours later by General RAAM.

http://gearsofwar.wikia.com/wiki/Minh_Young_Kim

In other words, he dies about an hour into Gears 1.

[Knight of Cydonia]

In other words, he dies about an hour into Gears 1.

You just linked me to a huge wall you realise that?

Which is why I quoted the page summary for you, you goddamn idiot.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Hes saying my character is minor but there is a huge wall which debates this quite considerably.

Now let's look at the guy who Slandaar claims to be: Lt. Kim, a character who led a squad of four/five - at odds with being a one-shot masoniser - and died very early on in the series. If this game has a masoniser for some reason, I highly doubt it'd be Kim.

I never said he was minor. You are now outright lying to avoid the lynch.
Slandaar wagon, UP AND AWAY

[Knight of Cydonia]

Okay guy, look. Venmar probably provided the flavour. Assuming Slandaar is fake claiming, the the hell would Venmar give such sub-par flavour with a role that just wouldn't match?

"Assuming Slandaar is claiming a role different to what he was given, why would the flavour be so bad" is objectively the worst fucking chainsaw I have ever seen.

[Knight of Cydonia]

This is legitimately the most goddamn retarded town I have ever had the misfortune to be part of.

[Knight of Cydonia]

...I'm genuinely not sure if you're wilfully misinterpreting me at this point or just stupid.

...

Its a logical fallacy to suggest you can't be scum unless there is a case showing you are.

...no. No it isn't.

So; if X is scum; Y says they think X is scum but has no case gut etc; X can't be scum?

I see.

Okay, I'm done with this horse shit. You are deliberately taking the argument away from my point.
Let me make it very fucking clear for you.
You have accused me of being scum. This does not, as you seem to have decided, instantly make me scum or preclude the need for you to present a case. Pushing for a lynch without any given reasoning - not even "I have a gut feeling" (something you have NEVER posted regarding me and certainly not whne you first jumped on my burgeoning wagon, as I will show shortly) - is scummy. The fact that you have become even more vehement about me being scum, whilst also becoming even less willing to provide a case as I've pressed you, until suddenly applying this retroactive case

KoC you want a case?
KoC is scum for implying he can't be scum unless there is a case on him.

a full 490+ posts after your first calling me scum with no reasoning

Probably scum
KoC
ANG
Qwints
Maran

and 200+ posts after you promised to actually give a case

lol

One sec, I will get right on that!

makes me think you're scum who just hopped on and/or indicated support for certain wagons that you thought had popular support without actually bothering to come up with a reason to jump on them (see: myself, ANG, to lesser extent Marangal pre-claim).

tl;dr the only case you've given for me to be scum arrived nearly 500 posts after you first called me scum and doesn't actually apply to any of my posts until this exchange -> you are attempting to retrofit a miniscule, poorly built case onto a shameless attempt at positioning yourself on my wagon -> you are probably retarded scum

unvote
Vote: Slaardar

Since Slandaar has apparently forgotten that I voted him for shameless wagonhopping and refusing to present a case, instead preferring to engage in retarded fallacy-based arguments and then applying them to something he said 500 posts previously as if that's a legitimate thing to do.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Masons typically die if they attempt to masonise scum. I can safely say I have NEVER seen a mason get some kind of confirmation BS from a failed masoning action, and I'm actually struggling to recall any game where a mason hasn't just outright died from acting on scum.
The point is moot because it's a fucking stupid claim that makes no sense regardless, but still.

[Knight of Cydonia]

I'm still highly skeptical of Slandaar and I want to hear back from everyone (including the half-dozen people who are posting jackshit this game) before we do anything.

[Knight of Cydonia]

2 scum teams

What?

Not an unreasonable assumption to make from the whole "two kills" thing.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Slandaar....how do you know you weren't RB'd?

...this convenient prompting really makes me wonder if you're Slandaar's buddy, especially given how heavily you've pushed Messiah and Piratecat wagons this game when you haven't been contributing sweet fuck-all or complaining about people allowing a no-lynch to happen while voting for VIOMI of all people until just 20 minutes before deadline.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Let's do this

VOTE: Slandaar

Also I don't have time to read 76 pages of bullshit so I'm just going to act like I know stuff

Like fuck you are mate.

[Knight of Cydonia]

We've heard from the majority of people who aren't hardcore lurkers like the above-mentioned, and the fact that PC and Messiah are both calling shenanigans is good enough for me.

Vote: Slandaar

[Knight of Cydonia]

All of MS is scum? How the hell are we gonna lynch them then, this game should be over.

[Knight of Cydonia]

OK I know what I need to know; I was probably rbed.

• I know what I need to know
  
• can't/won't confirm if he was RB'd

Yeah, BS.

[Knight of Cydonia]

I can pretty much confirm that PirateCat is town. Just keep that in mind if I'm killed/lynched - thanks.

What?

Just before you kept calling us scum and now we are confirmed town?

What.the.hell?

@KoC: answer my post pls <3

...which one?

[Knight of Cydonia]

Oh, right. Well, the best bet for two scumteams would be Locust (the posterboy villains, led by Queen Myyrah) and the Lambent (introduced in GoW 2, come in human and Locust varieties both possessed by a parasite living in Imulsion, Sera's primary fuel source). However, the flavour indicated that both kills were performed by a Locust with no indication of Lambent infection, so... I dunno.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Yeah, that's what confused me.

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Yeah, I thought he was actually going to get a confirmation of some kind, otherwise why wouldn't he just say "I would get in a qt with them."

The whole reason he was allowed to live D1 was that he implied that masoning PC would give them both a confirmable result.

[Knight of Cydonia]

VOTE: Buldermar

Hi scum.

Why are you morons voting me? Majiffy and Goat doesn't need to explain themselves because I already know they're scum.

Also don't waste your time voting me if it's to get a claim, because that's not going to happen.

Do you have ANY intention of posting anything that isn't OMGUS or flatout bullshit this game?
Just wondering.

[Knight of Cydonia]

I don't have any overriding scum or town feelings towards Buldermar, but I sure as hell know I don't want him near endgame with the amount of circuituous, highly flawed logic her brings to this game.
Sadly, the alternative to taking him there is taking one of our many lurkers.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Only reason I was holding out on Bulder yesterday because it looked like he may have hinted at being cop. He obviously isn't and probably not a PR in general either.

Anyone else think Jal tracked Buldemar N1 and got no result?

This is a good catch. Doesn't clear him by any stretch though.

[Knight of Cydonia]

EBWOP:

UNVOTE:

Evidence points to PC being town despite her flip flopping around on me a bit.

I think good votes are Viomi, AN or havingfitz. moreso the first two than fitz.

I can understand fitz and AN to some degree, would like to hear more reasoning (or be directed to it if I missed it) on Viomi outside of the hardcore lurking.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Buldermar's logic and approach to this game, while not indicative of his alignment necessarily, detracts from scumhunting as he draws attention onto himself by flailing at anyone who holds an opinion contrary to his. While it is not necessarily scummy, it is anti-town in that it muddies the waters, and therefore I would prefer not to take him to endgame.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Buldermar's logic and approach to this game, while not indicative of his alignment necessarily, detracts from scumhunting as he draws attention onto himself by flailing at anyone who holds an opinion contrary to his. While it is not necessarily scummy, it is anti-town in that it muddies the waters, and therefore I would prefer not to take him to endgame.

I've just been playing poorly and being lazy in this game specifically - it's not my general approach.

Which raises the question of just why you're posting so much and yet with so little actual content, whilst leading us around in logic that wouldn't look out of place in dead R'lyeh dreaming.

[Knight of Cydonia]

I'm waiting on some confirmation from the mod for right now, but I got results on someone other than the person I actually targeted. Presumably it's some redirecting or bus driving, but the names are close enough to give me a little pause.

What the hell. This is Anti-Town. you don't mention that you have night actions.
Is this a new trick to earn town cred??

...you don't want the claimed town watcher to note that he has a night action? Are you even fucking reading the game at this point?

[Knight of Cydonia]

...that's pretty fucking damning and I am more than happy to get rid of someone who has admitted he's not even trying to play AND is outright lying about stuff. LAL and all.

Vote: Buldemar

[Knight of Cydonia]

lol

buldey I know you are grinning as you type all of this out you scummy little scummery scumscum you.

you got your hand caught in the cookie jar

You're mistaking. Like I've said previously, I don't lose games as scum. You're best off lynching me when you can't find a single reason to do so, not when you think there is a trillion of reasons. This is because I'm well capable of manipulating you succesfully. In this game, I havn't really done anything to live up to my reputation as town, I know that. But I also have made a lot of mistakes that I would have never made had I been scum.

If you want to, you can ask me questions now. I'll answer them carefully and detailed. I'll reread things to do so. It's entirely up to you, but I don't think you really have anything to lose from it.

I'm sorry that I havn't really been taking this game seriously and that I havn't done much to contribute. I do have excuses, but that's besides the point.

Your defence is "I don't lose as scum and you want to lynch me here so clearly I'm not scum"?
Really?

[Knight of Cydonia]

guys I think buldermar is town

maybe this is a good wagon for info and stuff but its not the right lynch today

not by a longshot

say pretty please?

That is the fastest U-turn I have ever,

ever

seen anyone make and I can see why people really don't like that slot.
From "I think he's town" to "well, maybe for info" to "ehh, ask nicely" in 4 posts (one omitted because it was even more useless than the rest of Bacde's posting).

[Knight of Cydonia]

im almost down to lynch knight of cydonia

almost

"I want a wagon run up on this person I have called town with no basis and in the face of him blatantly lying at least once, but I don't want to lynch him, I just want people on the wagon so hat I can judge them for it."

say pretty please?

Yeah, this is the kind of thing someone who doesn't want to jump on a wagon says. TOTALLY.

Pedit:

im almost down to lynch knight of cydonia

almost

Oooh, and now OMGUS too, wow. You really are as stupid as your posts elsewhere on the site lead me to think, that's amazing.

[Knight of Cydonia]

No. It's both AtE and "lol i trol u", both of which are shitty argument.
And even if it was truth, which I doubt, if he's going to spend the whole game trolling, he can fuck right off anyway, and you can go with him. We have enough lurkers (hi Guile!) without that shit to put up with as well.
Pedit:

[Knight of Cydonia]

I refer you to my earlier comments vis-a-vis flipflopping, with an added dollop of:
if you couldn't see the multiple posts where Buldermar had lied and already stated that he was fucking around and not really playing, are you not reading this game at all or just choosing to ignore points until they're pushed in your face to where you can't avoid bussing?

[Knight of Cydonia]

seriously dude you need to learn to be happy when people come to your side of the bandwagon

No.
It's a simple fucking question. Are you reading the game, or not?
And if you are, why did you choose to ignore the multiple posts by Buldermar stating he wasn't taking the game seriously until they were literally shoved in your face?

[Knight of Cydonia]

geez all these people with all these opinions about what I'm doing wrong

you guys are like buzzing flies

buzz buzz buzz in my ear

*swats hand*

Refusal to answer questions noted.
Here's our next lynch kids.

[Knight of Cydonia]

hey whats up I'm still alive cool

I think we're lynching either Majiffy or KoC today for their ridiculously false and overbearing stances against me yesterday when I thought it was possible for buldermar to flip town

I know it's hard for idiots like you to NOT resort to "waaah they attacked meh lynch pls" but do try. You insisting that Buldermar was town after the way he played actually inclines me to suspect you're either Locust or Stranded (who I'm assuming are a second team due to bork's flip) who either wanted Bulder in the endgame to let him fuck things up, or - what this post looks more like - are planning to somehow take towncred for calling him town after the way he played somehow.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Jesus. Why don't we lynch Viomi who has contributed zero to the game?

VOTE: Viomi

I'm absolutely 100% down with this or a Guile lynch. There are far too many people still coasting along in this game.
VOTE: Viomi

[Knight of Cydonia]

...see now I'm fucking worried because the guy I'm voting for lurking through the game is buddying up to me in the most transparent way possible on the guy I want to lynch because his entire playstyle consists of "you attacked me? must be scum! LOL I'M GOOD AT THIS GAME".
Admittedly that is assuaged a little by the fact that bork probably has some buddies out there on top of the remaining Locust, but still.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Speaking of lurkers.

[Knight of Cydonia]

...see now I'm fucking worried because the guy I'm voting for lurking through the game is buddying up to me in the most transparent way possible on the guy I want to lynch because his entire playstyle consists of "you attacked me? must be scum! LOL I'M GOOD AT THIS GAME".
Admittedly that is assuaged a little by the fact that bork probably has some buddies out there on top of the remaining Locust, but still.

whats awesome is that I'm the one who just replaced into a game and didn't read anything yet was still able to see buldermar was town; and for some reason you are making fun of

my

playing ability

but its ok you can go ahead and strong-arm your way into getting everything done your way, without considering the intelligence of your peers

...do I even need to explain what a pile of crap this and the rest of Bacde's posting has been, or can everyone see it? Because I'm really not in the mood to detail exactly why this is both stupid as fuck and scummy?

[Knight of Cydonia]

I also had forgotten that Viomi was ANG during my last two posts.

Just an FYI

I'm not ANG

You replaced him.

[Knight of Cydonia]

...see now I'm fucking worried because the guy I'm voting for lurking through the game is buddying up to me in the most transparent way possible on the guy I want to lynch because his entire playstyle consists of "you attacked me? must be scum! LOL I'M GOOD AT THIS GAME".
Admittedly that is assuaged a little by the fact that bork probably has some buddies out there on top of the remaining Locust, but still.

whats awesome is that I'm the one who just replaced into a game and didn't read anything yet was still able to see buldermar was town; and for some reason you are making fun of

my

playing ability

but its ok you can go ahead and strong-arm your way into getting everything done your way, without considering the intelligence of your peers

...do I even need to explain what a pile of crap this and the rest of Bacde's posting has been, or can everyone see it? Because I'm really not in the mood to detail exactly why this is both stupid as fuck and scummy?

I know you don't think its possible that I could have possibly seen buldermar as town when you didn't

hell, you even did a good job of making me feel stupid for thinking buldermar was town

but maybe its time to deal with your inferior mafia prowess

and let the big boys carry the team

And there we have it kids. "Hey look, I conveniently knew Buldermar is town all along despite his awful posting and lying about his reads! Now everyone who followed that entirely logical wagon, step aside and let me lead the town."

unvote
Vote: Bacde

[Knight of Cydonia]

First off, LOL all 3 of the Carmines died last night. I'm sure Venmar got a huge chuckle out of that.

Secondly, there are 12 players left, and assuming only 2 scum teams, there are likely 2 scum of each faction left (Stranded/Locust). That makes it 8-2-2.

Third, today is the day I will try to catch up and make sure some good shit happens. This is your Captain, er, Colonel, speaking. (Uber)

Are you ready to rock and roll, boys and girls?

I remember hearing the same thing for much of the end of Day 1. And Day 2. I'm not expecting much.

[Knight of Cydonia]

I can OMGUS this

Vote: Majiffy

I was actually just reading my ISO and it looked like I was building up to this vote anyway

And you wonder why I think you're scum.
"My ISO looks like I could twist it to fit this, so I'll just OMGUS anyway". Not "I was gonna do this anyway and here's why".
Bacde wagon is comfy as all hell son. Plenty of room for more bitches. All aboard.

[Knight of Cydonia]

I can OMGUS this

Vote: Majiffy

I was actually just reading my ISO and it looked like I was building up to this vote anyway

And you wonder why I think you're scum.
"My ISO looks like I could twist it to fit this, so I'll just OMGUS anyway". Not "I was gonna do this anyway and here's why".
Bacde wagon is comfy as all hell son. Plenty of room for more bitches. All aboard.

lol you are seriously pushing on a PR who outted just to get the person you wanted to be lynched yesterday under rope



deal w/ my playstyle, its not alignment indicative btw

Your playstyle is at best extremely anti-town and your "PR" is also not alignment indicative.

"Deal w/it."
And stop trying to bring outside issues into a game, unlike you I have enough sense to not do something so blatantly stupid (and more anti-town, since bringing non-game related issues into a game just obfuscates the issues).

[Knight of Cydonia]

...this (Bacde/Viomi) is reading a lot like an argument that has scum on at least one side of it. Viomi's logic is better, I'm just worried it's only because she's finally under some pressure. Bacde just reads like a LOT of flailing and alternating between "you're better than this, you're town come on" and "you're better than this so you're scum" appeals.
Could one of you give us a link to this game which Bacde's case appears to be built on?

[Knight of Cydonia]

...so because you played like a VI with Viomi before and as scum she got an easy mislynch because of it, she shouldn't want to lynch you for playing like a VI again and the fact that she does makes her scummy?
Except, uh... you weren't mislynched that game. You were nightkilled. And the town mason/vig (DGB) agreed that you looked like a horrible scum player too, early on D1, before you were shot by the scum much later in the game after getting nowhere near being lynched during. Doesn't read like someone who pushed on you expecting an easy ML to be honest. In fact, the scum QT reveals they shot you for being one of the more active players.
Not sure I buy it.

[Knight of Cydonia]

No, I think you just permanently play as an idiot regardless of alignment and then bring up your "whimsical playstyle" which appears to be a constant and attempt to portray it as a town tell when in reality it's null at best.

[Knight of Cydonia]

You fuckers have lynched people too fast every day

...ha. ha. ha.

[Knight of Cydonia]

People are waiting for the aforementioned lurkers to respond to shit/post at all. So the game slowly dies off because those players have no intention of actually contributing.

[Knight of Cydonia]

I'll have to think about qwints harder as I finish my re-read. Not sure he's scum yet, but we'll see.

Spoiler: Where did you find this picture of me? :shifty:

Seriously, are you reading a post a day?

Apparently he's reading whichever post he can make the least game-relevant response to.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Vote: Jiffy

That's a pretty fuckin' big tell right there.

[Knight of Cydonia]

If someone's reaction to a highly experienced player replacing in and calling them scum is "oh fuck I can't deal with this shit better get the fuck outta here", it generally raises questions about WHY they can't handle it. I disagree with DGB w/r/t AN and Viomi, but I agree that Majiffy running for the hills stinks.

[Knight of Cydonia]

OH MY GOD I QUIT
[/JOKE]

[Knight of Cydonia]

Oh no. The guy who has lurked through this entire game doing nothing has pulled a scumread out of his ass on me. I am so utterly terrified of this non-existent case. Help. Help.

"I'm UberNinja. Sheep me. You will win."

10/10 would nearly piss myself laughing at again.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Or, in a more traditional manner:

Oh no. The guy who has lurked through this entire game doing nothing has pulled a scumread out of his ass on me.

> Omg, somebody's attacking me, I better attack him back immediately and bring his reliability into question so as to discourage people from suspecting me before UberNinja even has a chance to explain things.

"please stop mentioning the fact that I've broken 4 days of near-silence and zero contribution to suddenly attempt to start up a wagon on someone else while simultaneously affirming my commitment to the wagon everyone else - including the guy I'm about to attack - is on"

I am so utterly terrified of this non-existent case. Help. Help.

> I'm not quite sure that he has anything solid on me, so I'm going to try to make the legalistic players go to bat for me, because UberNinja hasn't presented a case yet.

Oh boy, is this gonna be the Slandaar "hurr stop saying I need a case for you to be scum" argument again, 'cause we all know how he flipped right

10/10 would nearly piss myself laughing at again.

This is simply a level of exagerration to a degree that is uncommon for KoC even at his snarkiest.

But seriously now:

I'm fine with letting Majiffy's replacement catch up. If this wagon dies though, it will be nearly impossible to get it going again. I also have a decently strong scum read on that slot without the whole DGB related shitstorm. That was scummy too but that was just icing on a huge gut cake that I have spent weeks baking. So that slot is ripe to lynch.

"i'm fine with this wagon that I think is scum, but I'm going to try and start up another, completely unrelated wagon, just 'cause".
Sounds like someone wants to be seen to be bussing Rubicon just in case his lynch does go through (it totally should) while starting up a backup wagon in case his new buddy wriggles out.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Oh no. The guy who has lurked through this entire game doing nothing has pulled a scumread out of his ass on me. I am so utterly terrified of this non-existent case. Help. Help.

Oh great, Majiffy/Rubicon's buddy has just confessed scum.

Do you guys want to continue to ignore this and pursue an old-fashioned mislynch?

Either way I'm on board.

Tell me DGB, when did you turn into the sort of awful player who just points fingers randomly and hopes they're right?
Just wondering.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Okay, good to know I can safely ignore you.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Don't worry, so will everyone else.

Vote: KoC

I'm willing to back you up

(I realize this is a big change but your post got to me)

...okay, that's it, I'm done too actually. You are the biggest fucking retard I have ever had the misfortune to meet in a game of Mafia, and apparently DGB has decided to join in with the retarded new XD SO RANDOM style of Mafia that you cock juggling cuntbrains play now.
WE ARE IN DAY 4 AND THREE PEOPLE APPARENTLY THINK "JUST 'CAUSE" IS A VALID REASON TO HOP ON A RANDOM WAGON. You can't all be scum together unless Venmar is literally physically incapable of designing a balanced setup. You are no longer playing Mafia, you are playing EpicMafia style "well, fuck, random wagon on X I guess" style bullshit. I don't know if your brains are just incapable of dealing with anything longer than a couple of sentences or you're just used to shovelling shit down your throat with a grin, but I'm not having any part of this shitty fucking site any more.

Request replacement due to Bacde and DGB refusing to actually play Mafia.