Mini 1436 ~ Mafia Through a Puppy's Eyes (Game Over.)

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Just 'cause I was scum once... >:P

But seriously,

VOTE: panzerjager

vote morkh

this is scum.

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Vote:panzerjager

I'm scum gais

vig pls.

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also messiah is town.

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your givin me real mixed signals here pamarama

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wrong wrong wrong

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cherry dog. im backin your post for sure implo ; - D

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okay pramas town 100% if mhork flips scum

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probably town either way tho

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holy shit at that messiah vote lmao.

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INTENT

TO HAMMER. GIVE OR TAKE A WEEK MAYBE. CLAIM NOW PLEASE, K THX.

Hey!
Stop using caps lock. You're not Fate. You'll never be Fate.
Also. A week. Is at least 6 days too long.

lol

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where did cherry dog go?

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I think CD's postsing looks comfortable actually.

@parama: do you still want the reasoning for my LM vote?

yes.

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INTENT

TO HAMMER. GIVE OR TAKE A WEEK MAYBE. CLAIM NOW PLEASE, K THX.

Hey!
Stop using caps lock. You're not Fate. You'll never be Fate.
Also. A week. Is at least 6 days too long.

AINT NO PARTY LIKE A CAPS LOCK PARTY.

MAYBE, JUST DON'T WANT TO RUSH

THAT

QUICK.

Ended page one? So this is a legitimate wagon? Seriously? Based on what?

PEdit:
I vote Messiah for saying L-2. I wanna know what to he has to say.

I'm not claiming on page three. This wagon happened way too quickly. There are clearly scum on the wagon.

IRRELEVANT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THE IMPORTANT QUESTION IS IF THE WAGON IS

ON

SCUM.

SIX PEOPLE CAN'T ALL BE SCUM (PLUS TWO OFF IT). IF TOWN IS NEARLY UNANIMOUS, WHY HOLD UP THE GAME?

can you please explain out your reasoning for why you would want to delay the hammer on a nearly unanimous wagon. ty : ]

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where did cherry dog go?

...people have lives?

your missing my point,
last post by cherry in this thread: 7:30pm
last post by cherry in other threads: 8:22pm

considering that in this time someone has been run up to L-1 i would expect at least some comment on the matter from him.

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my point being i wanted you on record as having some opinion on the mhork lynch. which you have succeeded in avoiding giving.

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yep. nailed the important parts.

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ty based hammer.

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cant tell if mhork is really mad scum or seriously that bad at town.

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vote cherry

parama sell me on iceguyscum.

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scum pool is {cherry, sword, spy, iceguy} imo. townread on everyone else but panzer and hes only out of the pool since i dont think hes scum w. mark.

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maxous lld messiah are all 100% not bussing, paramas switch looks like bad bussing which is why i think hes town. i give him enough credit that i think his bus would have been a bit cleaner.

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why sword?

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Actually, his refusal to claim strikes me as scummy.

i looked at ice again and i just wanna point out that i really dont like this post. not really seeing the point behind it from a town standpoint.

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maxous is 100% town.

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so anyone wanna discuss whether safety targeted iceguy or cherry?

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vote: lord mhork

think I get what kanye is referring to

this post and he followed up with the correct explanation. makes him very town in my eyes.

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i forget whats vi/tierce modding stance on daychat? do we expect scum to have daychat here or not.

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That LM wagon is bad.

It has all the elements of a Day 1 mislynch: some little thing is taken as proof of scumminess, and everything that follows is considered scummy by default. Circular reasoning in effect.

Right now, VOTE: SafetyDance because his posting seems forced.

HORRIBLE VOTE + SAYING THE WAGON IS BAD = SCUM BUDDY OR KNOWS SOMETHING THE TOWN DOES NOT.

LOGICAL CONCLUSION IS TO LYNCH MHORK. ICEGUY CAN BE DAY 2 WAGON/LYNCH.

heres the thing that makes me thing it might be a bit hasty to assume cherry was the target of the redirect.

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i think we can all p much agree that safety was not the intended nk target.

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i didn't like the fact that he told Mhork not to claim...he was defending Mhork because he thought that there was no way in Hell he would get quick-lynched and then once he realised Mhork really was hammered did he finally change his tune and say that ok, Mhork could be scum.

this is sums up the central thoughts im entertaining wrt iceguy.

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That he was able to read your posts?

Kanye hadn't said a word about why Mhork was scum.
Maxous didn't get it from anyone's posts. That's why he's town.

yah this mainly. for all scum knew i was bluffing or rvsing. there is zero reason for scum to bus right there and the fact that maxous was able to see what i saw and immediately follow me onto it belies a very town mindset.

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Can somebody give me the cliff notes on why Cheery is scum?

bad reaction to the mhork wagon and his page 1 panzer vote is awful. opening with a maxous vote today certainly isnt endearing him to me further either.

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Two other things: i'm not convinced that parama is town (see: the question that i called terrible)

im pretty sure parama is town: hes thinking about the game in p much the same way i am and with exception to his initial resistance on mhork everything else has been picture perfect. also read the thing i said about him not being that terrible a busser.

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spy might be scum btw.

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i dont think implo scum has any motivation to attack you so much parama. its pretty obvies youre not being lynched anytime soon. that said, cherry flipping town would definitely paint implos d1 as a whole lot more fencesitty and give me serious reservations about him. def one of my weaker town reads.

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who do you want to lynch today lambda?

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iceguy do you think that safetydance was the target of the scum kill? if not, who do you think he targeted?

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actually cherry dog u can answer that q too please.

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fuck the flavor, look at his role and look at the fact that he was killed.

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ebwop i just me wrt this, the flavor owns alot.

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do you understand the possible implications of a dead "self-redirector"?

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i really really wish cherry dog wasnt begging for the rope so bad because im starting to lean iceguy.

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ne1 played w. him before? is he normally this... dense?

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iceguy do you think that safetydance was the target of the scum kill? if not, who do you think he targeted?

Probably Parama or you. Somebody who got a lot of towncred out of the LM mislynch.

is this for real?

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iceguy who is scum. who is town. please give us your current reads in some detail.

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unvote vote iceguy

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which aspect of it.

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incidentally why is cherry scum?

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Cheery is probably not scum

can you tell me what made you say this panzer ?

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How about you move elsewhere completely?

I believe the remaining scum more likely ended up ignoring Mhork from the thread.
(hence why I'm currently voting panzerjager who only got posts in on page 1 during day 1)

please elaborate on why panzer is scum?

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I can see why people have him as a scumread, but I'm not sure if that's the case or not.
I'm not currently reading him as town anyway (still null), so if someone decides he should be an early lynch I'm not going to stop them.

The only reason I'm suspicious if that I didn't know how to deal with the situation of what at the time was what I thought might be caught scum, but not expecting them to be that easy.

And maybe where my votes have gone today, but other people having town reads based on things I consider possibly scummy mean nothing to me.

not seeing where you thought he was caught scum.

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thx glad 2 hear m8

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fyi im not voting for anyone today where convincing evidence cannot be given that safetydance targeted them.

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parama u havent said shit on what u think about the self redirector. i want a serious fuckin dialogue about this shit because i think that he nailed his night action and basically everyone is either ignoring this or willfully acting retarded abt it and i just dont get it.

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267 is a really bad fuckin post tho ill agree with that. like, sword are you seriously claiming that you had a scum read on mhork before he had even started posting??

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btw the heat has died down, so what does ice guy do? promptly disappear. nice, guy.

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no i want the post where u actually seem like you have some clue whats going on in this game.onegai.

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lynch me about it then.idiot

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lynch me about it then.idiot

Looks like I struck a nerve there.

s_o_o: No comment on my vote? That's ... unusual.

it was a subtle nod to the fact that i had valid recourse and you donot, actually.

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a little reminder that i wish a death 2 ur posting career in this thread.

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@Parama - his argument was...hey he didn't post in our thread overnight night, but waited until Morkh was quiklynched to say anything.. other than that, he had no comments at all today...why should i have taken that seriously?

@KKB - Mhork was scummy for his "it was only one time.. and seriously, here's an RVS..."
and i've already stated what i thought happened with Safety...

Vote: Lord Mhork

i am not letting scum escape this time!

don't let him fool you...
he be scum...seeing as he was scum in the last two games we were in and won..i say third times the charm...

Meanwhile Morkh had already pretty much self-imploded.. he always gets mad and seems to genuinely not understand why he gets voted or lynched when he is scum. It’s kind of funny actually (see the last 2 games i was in with him where he was scum. (WOW cataclysm Mini and most recently Simpson’s Mini). I wouldn’t have even put him in that situation if we were buddies...
i called him out in RVS like i promised i would at the end of our last game ( i was mad cause i lost to him both times) ....and then after his wierd

“scum only once”

post, i told Messiah don’t fall for his excuse considering i had just lost to scum Morkh TWICE in a row...
So when i checked in and fully read up on Tuesday morning, Morkh’s posting had reinforced the scum read, but by then Spy had already quick-hammered...i posted in thread because i wanted Ice to answer my question to him about not wanting morkh to claim, which came off sounding like Ice was worried for some reason and it seemed oddly out of place to me...

post 7 and 10 came before mhork posted. your only other post day 1 was well after mhork was the guaranteed lynch for the day. do you see the issue i am taking with your statements in 267?

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dont believe he was active during the height of mhork lynch. i was checking (see my callout on cherry dog) and it looked legit. i didnt peep after the lynch tho so i guess that could be a slightly diff story if he showed up and was posting right after but not really something id use as hard evidence. what bothers me more though is his insistence that his rvs vote was a serious vote and that hes town for it.

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Spyrex (although this is really mostly because he hasn't done anything that makes me think he's scum; in the case of Spyrex, i consider that enough to townread him).

elaborate on this. you are saying that not doing anything outright scummy puts him up there on your town list?

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ive settled my feelings about sword. i think hes just bad and wants towncred so he does not get lynched. hes playing survival townie.

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i think spy is scum. what about you?

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cool lets chat about it when you do. i have some thoughts ill hold off on sharing til then so we dont bias eachother.

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chill parama. i want my chat w. lambda and then well lynch someone. nl is not on the table.

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if someone vigs iceguy tonight ill think rly highly of you

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rrf

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your bus was so bad and obvious i thought there was no way.. i gave u 2 much credit ._.

that said your rushing the sword wagon day2 and your reaction to panzers first d4 post were very scum and im sad no1 who was alive caught those. i thought the second scum was a lazy spyrex w. lambda just being lazy not into the game. turns out it was the other way around :x

http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/CfYTdcUqLGtD

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lol at thinking I'm a good player

nobody really played well in this game aside from you d1, really :V

i wanted 2 believe :<

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thats pretty messed up

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Yep, I'm pretty sure I said I didn't care because I didn't care. Its cause and effect.

Of course, considering if I was banking on Parama town and Cheery was more likely to be town even if I was paranoid all game over it then trading implosion for LLD didn't matter a whit because

that was what I was going to do anyways.

I'm not going to try to slag this slag on to fight an order of what I was expecting.

But, I can be pure trash. That's fine. This game did serve as a reminder that whenever I get that itch and go down memory lane and remember the good games and fun times I need to just reality check and remember its not that way anymore with my life and schedule the way they are.

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Cheery, be more active. I think that would have flipped the switch and kept any doubts there.
implosion, sorry <3. It was POE and I did you a disservice.

Everyone else, its been real. I think I'm officially done.

*mic drop*

ripeace.