Newbie 1351: Hyrule's Under Attack.. Interesting..-GAME OVER

[TraceyLyn11]

WELCOME TO NEWBIE 1351:

Hyrule Is Under

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Deadline:

GAME OVER

Hylians (Player list)

(Bold means confirmed)

Z7-852

Fropome

fferyllt

Deras

ArcAngel9

AlexisTay3

Mac

Birdland

Ineffective

Eye Urn

VisceraEyes

CareyHammer

(SE)

GuyInFreezer

Revenus

(SE)

goodmorning (IC)

Semi-experienced (SE) players are here because they have completed at least two games.
The Inexperience Challenged (IC) player is here because he/she has completed at least five games, has been a part of MafiaScum for at least three months, and has elected to be this teaching role. It is recommended they follow the Being a Good IC guidelines.

Waging Battle (Alive)

(Asterisk* means prod)

Mac,

Mafia Role Cop

, survived day five

In The Twilight Realm (Dead)

ArcAngel9,

Vanilla Townie

, lynched day one

Deras,

Vanilla Townie

, killed night one

GuyInFreezer,

Mafia Goon

, lynched day two

goodmorning,

Town Jailkeeper

, lynched day three

VisceraEyes,

Town Doctor

, killed night three

fferyllt,

Vanilla Townie

, killed night four

Ineffective,

Vanilla Townie

, lynched day five

Z7-852,

Vanilla Townie

, endgamed day five

Vote Counts And Significant Links

VC 1.0|VC 1.1|Mac replaces Birdland|VC 1.2|ArcAngel9 replaces AlexisTay3|VC 1.3|VC 1.4|VC 1.5|VC 1.6|VC 1.7|Z7-852 replaces Fropome|VC 1.8|VC 1.9|VisceraEyes replaces CareyHammer|VC 1.10|VC 1.11|VC 1.12|VC 1.13|VC 1.14|VC 1.15|GuyInFreezer replaces Revenus|VC 1.16|VC 1.17|ArcAngel9 is lynched day one|Night one begins|Deras is killed night one/Day two begins|VC 2.0|VC 2.1|VC 2.2|VC 2.3|VC 2.4|Ineffective replaces Eye Urn|VC 2.5|VC 2.6|VC 2.7|VC 2.8|VC 2.9|VC 2.10|VC 2.11|GuyInFreezer is lynched day two|Night two begins|No one dies night two/Day three begins|VC 3.0|VC 3.1|VC 3.2|VC 3.3|VC 3.4|VC 3.5|goodmorning is lynched day three|Night three begins|VisceraEyes is killed night three/Day four begins|VC 4.0|No one is lynched day four|Night four begins|fferyllt is killed night four/Day five begins|VC 5.0|VC 5.1|VC 5.2|VC 5.3|Ineffective is lynched day five|GAME OVER|The winners|Mod Notes QT|Mafia QT|Dead QT

[TraceyLyn11]

GAME RULES:

Voting, Lynching, and Deadlines

• Votes must be bolded in one of two ways:
  Vote: Your Face
  or VOTE: Your Mom’s Face. If they are not bolded, they will not be counted, and I will inform you of your error so you can correct it.
  
• Unvotes are not required.
  
• Nicknames are allowed when voting so long as I can easily decipher who you are referring to.
  
• In order for a lynch to occur, a majority of votes must be reached. A majority is one half of the living players plus one.
  
• No lynches are allowed. The same voting rules apply to voting for a no lynch (i.e. bolded, majority must be reached).
  
• Once a voting decision is made, and the final majority vote is placed, no amount of unvoting will prevent this action from occurring – even if I am not online at the time of the final vote.
  
• If a majority is not reached by deadline, there will be a no lynch.
  
• Deadlines for each game day are three weeks long. Deadline extensions will only be granted under extreme circumstances. Deadline extensions will not exceed five days.
  
• Once a lynch has been made, the game enters twilight. All players who were alive before the lynch (including the newly lynched player) may continue posting until I am available to lock the thread and post the lynch scene.
  
• Once you die, you are no longer allowed to post until end-game (excluding the scenario above).
  
• “Bah” posts are not allowed. Once you’re dead, you’re dead.
  
• Nights will last three days. They may be cut short at my discretion.
  
• Night actions may be submitted via QuickTopic (if you have one) or PM. If you do not wish to submit an action, let me know by saying, “no action” or some variation thereof.
  
• If an action is not submitted by night’s deadline, it will be taken as a no action.

Prods, Replacements, and Modkills

• Prods will be issued via PM.
  
• Prods will be sent after a player has not posted in-game for approximately seventy-two hours (unless you have notified me that you will be V/LA). This may be shortened if the activity is slow.
  
• If there is not a response to the prod in approximately forty-eight hours (may be adjusted to match the prod time-limit), I will begin searching for a replacement. If you respond before I find a replacement, you are allowed to continue playing.
  
• Once a player receives three prods (i.e. once you are due for a forth), I will begin searching for a replacement. Even if you return before I find a replacement, you will not get another chance to continue playing.
  
• I would appreciate it if you would post in-thread (even if you have it set in your control panel) or PM me when you will be V/LA (Vacation/Limited Access). If I believe your V/LA will last too long, I will replace you.
  
• If you feel the need to request a replacement, please PM me doing so. If I consider the reasons very selfish, I may deem it fit that you must find a replacement for me.
  
• If you break any of these rules, I reserve the right to replace or modkill you.
  
• If you are modkilled for breaking one of these rules, it will be done in a manner that hurts your faction. (i.e. if you’re town, day will end. If you are scum, day will continue). You will also be turned into a neutral survivor, so you are unable to claim a victory or loss.
  
• If I make an error that could break the game, I reserve the right to replace or modkill you. If it
  is
  an error on my part, you and your faction will not be punished.

General

• The Mafia Scum Rules apply in this game, as well as my own. If any of them contradict, please feel free to notify me.
  
• Under no circumstances are you allowed to contact a player within this game about this game while this game is ongoing, unless your Role PM states otherwise.
  
• Personal feuds are not allowed, and if they get out of hand, I will force-replace or modkill the offenders.
  
• Quoting anything from me (including Role PM’s) that is said outside of this game thread is prohibited. Pretending to quote something is prohibited as well. Paraphrasing is allowed.
  
• Bold
  all requests to me, so it is less likely for me to miss them. If the topic you wish to discuss is personal or has to do with a serious mod error (one that could break the game), please address me via PM.
  
• Editing or deleting posts is not allowed. You shouldn’t have this ability to begin with, but if you do, do not use it.
  
• Do not use ridiculously small, invisible, or encrypted text.
  
• Navy is my color. Don’t use it.
  
  
• I will try to provide a vote count on every page.
  
• As the moderator of this game, I reserve the right to change, add, or remove any of these rules at any time. I also reserve the right to replace or modkill any offenders, with or without a warning.

Etiquette

• Vulgar language is allowed; however, excessive amounts (to the point where you’re trying to be vulgar) are not. I will warn you if you become unnecessarily crude. If you continue, I will modkill or replace you.
  
• If anyone has a problem with vulgar language, feel free to PM me about it, and I will make any necessary changes to the above rule in order to accommodate your wishes.
  
• Please don’t go missing without informing me first.
  
• If you are getting angry with someone, take a break and relax. It’s just a game. Don’t make it personal.
  
• Be mature. We aren’t in elementary school anymore. Use your big-boy words if you’re in an argument.

Above all else,

HAVE FUN!

[TraceyLyn11]

Newbie 2of4 Setup and Mechanics:

(this is a semi-open setup; therefore, this will be a list of

possible

role variations)

• 1 Mafia Goon
  ,
  1 Mafia Role Cop
  ,
  5 Vanilla Townies
  ,
  Sane Cop
  ,
  Doctor
  
  
• 1 Mafia Goon
  ,
  1 Mafia Role Cop
  ,
  5 Vanilla Townies
  ,
  Sane Cop
  ,
  Jailkeeper
  
  
• 1 Mafia Goon
  ,
  1 Mafia Role Cop
  ,
  5 Vanilla Townies
  ,
  Doctor
  ,
  Jailkeeper
  
  
• 1 Mafia Goon
  ,
  1 Mafia Role Cop
  ,
  6 Vanilla Townies
  ,
  Sane Cop
  
  
• 1 Mafia Goon
  ,
  1 Mafia Role Cop
  ,
  6 Vanilla Townies
  ,
  Jailkeeper
  
  
• 1 Mafia Goon
  ,
  1 Mafia Role Cop
  ,
  6 Vanilla Townies
  ,
  Doctor

• Daystart
  
• The Mafia Role Cop is allowed to both submit the nightkill and perform his/her Role Cop action, no matter whether the Goon is dead or not.

Role PM's:

Welcome to

Newbie 1351: Hyrule Is Under Attack!

, [Player Name]. You are a

Mafia Goon

. Your partner is

[Player Name]

. During the night phase and before the game starts, you may speak to your partner in this [QuickTopic]. You are not allowed to PM your partner (or any other player). Each night, one of you or your partner may perform a kill, and your partner may perform a Role Cop investigation -

you may not

. You are to notify me of your choice via QuickTopic or PM. If you do not notify me of a decision before night's deadline, I will count it as a No Action.

You win when you control 50% of the town or nothing can prevent this from occurring.

Please confirm the name of your role via PM.

Welcome to

Newbie 1351: Hyrule Is Under Attack!

, [Player Name]. You are a

Mafia Role Cop

. Your partner is

[Player Name]

. During the night phase and before the game starts, you may speak to your partner in this [QuickTopic]. You are not allowed to PM your partner (or any other player). Each night, one of you or your partner may perform a kill, and you may perform a Role Cop investigation -

your partner may not

. You are to notify me of your choice via QuickTopic or PM. If you do not notify me of a decision before night's deadline, I will count it as a No Action.

You win when you control 50% of the town or nothing can prevent this from occurring.

Please confirm the name of your role via PM.

Welcome to

Newbie 1351: Hyrule Is Under Attack!

, [Player Name]. You are a

Town [Sane] Cop

. Each night phase you may investigate one player in the game to discover their alignment. Your will be notified of whether they are town or not in the form of "Guilty" or "Not Guilty". If a jailkeeper jails you, you will receive a No Result. You are to notify me of your choice via PM. If you do not notify me of a decision before night's deadline, I will count it as a No Action.

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated and there is at least one town player alive.

Please confirm the name of your role via PM.

Welcome to

Newbie 1351: Hyrule Is Under Attack!

, [Player Name]. You are a

Town Doctor

. Each night phase you may protect one player in the game from a night kill. You are unable to protect yourself. When you protect someone, they are still able to perform any night actions they may have. You are to notify me of your choice via PM. If you do not notify me of a decision before night's deadline, I will count it as a No Action.

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated and there is at least one town player alive.

Please confirm the name of your role via PM.

Welcome to

Newbie 1351: Hyrule Is Under Attack!

, [Player Name]. You are a

Town Jailkeeper

. Each night phase you may jail one player in the game. You are unable to jail yourself. When you jail someone, they are unable to perform any night actions they may have while also being protected from any potential kills. You are to notify me of your choice via PM. If you do not notify me of a decision before night's deadline, I will count it as a No Action.

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated and there is at least one town player alive.

Please confirm the name of your role via PM.

Welcome to

Newbie 1351: Hyrule Is Under Attack!

, [Player Name]. You are a

Vanilla Townie

. You have zero night actions. Your strongest weapon is used during the day and is your vote.

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated and there is at least one town player alive.

Please confirm the name of your role via PM.

[TraceyLyn11]

I'll send out role PMs tomorrow.

[TraceyLyn11]

Role PMs are out. Once 7/9 confirm, the game will begin.

7/9 have confirmed.

If Birdland doesn't post within forty-eight hours, they will be replaced.

The adventure begins!

[TraceyLyn11]

VOTE COUNT 1.0

[L-5] Fropome:

[L-5] fferyllt:

[L-5] Deras:

[L-5] AlexisTay3:

[L-5] Birdland:

[L-5] Eye Urn:

[L-5] CareyHammer:

[L-5] Revenus:

[L-5] goodmorning:

Not Voting:

9 (Fropome, fferyllt, Deras, AlexisTay3, Birdland, Eye Urn, CareyHammer, Revenus, goodmorning)

• With nine alive, it takes five to lynch.
  
• Day One's deadline: April 18, 2013 CST or in (expired on 2013-04-18 20:45:00).
  
• V/LA: No one.

[Fropome]

VOTE: Revenus
for reminding me it's tax time.

[fferyllt]

Hi guys

[Fropome]

Hey ffer! How happy are you?
I'm at 50% fwiw.

[fferyllt]

I'm ecstatic. I made killer hummus a while ago.

[fferyllt]

looks like we have the game to ourselves atm.

So are you scum?

[Fropome]

lol no. If you're not my happy goes to 100.

[fferyllt]

You are in luck!

[Fropome]

Sure hope so.

[Revenus]

first

[fferyllt]

Sure hope so.

I sure hope you don't know so.

[Fropome]

Likewise. But this has been positive.

[goodmorning]

Hi there, I'm your IC for this game. Tracey's already posted (in post 0) the main gist of the job, but I'll clarify a bit more. What "IC" means is that I will answer your theory questions truthfully and try to give you some explanation of this site's meta.

That's right,

I will not lie to you

about theory.

Now, you may be thinking "no fair, she's got more experience, clearly she will pwn newbs". That's only somewhat true. Some newbies have played many a game of Mafia elsewhere. Besides this, experience counts against me as well: you all are able to look up my past games and see how I've played in them. I can't because most of you don't have any. So it's a fairly even split.

Some helpful Wiki pages:
Quick Guide to Mafia
Quick Guide to Mafiascum
A Beginner's Guide to Being Awesome At Mafia

And some terms:
Glossary
Commonly Used Abbreviations

So now that the IC intro is over...

Vote: Carey

IGMEOY

[goodmorning]

Also HIIIII TRACEYYYYYYY

[Deras]

Vote: fferyllt

for making a killer hummus, interesting choice of words or freudian slip?

[fferyllt]

ha! 4 heaping tablespoons of chili garlic sauce in that hummus. It required warning labels.

[Eye Urn]

Greetings fellow Hylians!

I've played a few games on other sites years ago (and a lot of live games at Origins one particular year) and perhaps the theory has evolved a bit since then, but it seems games on this site run at a much higher level. Having determined this after a read through a few other games, I feel a very workable strategy for scum in newbie games is to just not post very often, even claiming (maybe it's the truth, who knows) to have somewhat limited time to devote to the game. Dropping in once a week to provide a slim set of reads and not getting involved in townies arguing with each other is a great way for scum to look like they're trying to play but mostly have people forget about them. I sincerely hope that everyone in this game is dedicated to providing useful dialog, and won't just prod-dodge. Not contributing to active discussion is anti-town. That doesn't mean posting and saying hi every day, it means at very least making commentary about what's going on even if you're not sure where they participants stand.

I was going to have a paragraph here ranting about the random voting stage, but in the process I came to the conclusion that it does serve one useful purpose: to get people that have some votes thrown their way talking about something substantial, even if it is to say that all the votes on them are random. Just the process of coming out of one's shell and showing how one responds to pressure, even baseless pressure, is information the town can potentially use to its advantage. That's not to say that I love the random voting stage, and think there are some other very good ways to break the ice - starting off with introductions is quite useful in games like this one where people for the most part don't know a damn thing about each other - but RVS seems to be firmly entrenched on this site and I have to play the same game as everyone else. So here goes my vote for the person whose name I hate the most.

VOTE: goodmorning

I don't like mornings and I really don't like being bombarded with pleasantries first thing in the morning every day at work, so your name is a major turn-off for me. Sorry.

[fferyllt]

Hi Eye Urn,

I'm fairly new to the site too. I have two completed games, including a Newbie game where I was scum. We won. I have fairly extensive game experience on other sites where the pools of players were much smaller and player meta was a useful part of the game analysis. I'm enjoying playing with players who are unknown quantities. It's much more challenging that way.

I don't like RVS either and so far haven't put down random votes in the games I've played here. I decided not to make this game a first, but I do agree with you about the potential usefulness of the random voting stage. When I put a vote down, it will be for a post-related reason.

[goodmorning]

@I: Oddly enough I picked it as the less offensive of the two names I was considering, but "I hate mornings" is an RVS reasoning I see occasionally. (I hate them too, don't worry.)

YES, what you're describing in your first paragraph looks like active lurking and it's definitely part of this site's Scum meta. So, yeah, SPOT ON, SIR

As for your second paragraph: for me, RVS is just useful in that it gets things going. Sometimes that testing-the-waters stage of the game takes too long, and random voting is a way to jump in off the deep end. The response to pressure thing is good though. I've seen games in which L-1or2 RVS wagons get going, and they can be a great example of that.
Some people here hate RVS, and you are (now and in future) by no means required to participate in it. (You might get non-participation used as an RVS excuse against you though.)
Introductions can be good, but sometimes they can benefit Scum unduly.

But don't awaken the Elder Gods before this game is over, I'd rather like to keep winning games. ;]

@fffff: Good to know.

If anyone wants a bit of sharing is caring from me, here's a brief rundown:
I've played occasional RL games over the past 7 years.
I played online at one site previously, they're much less serious than here which is kind of relaxing in tandem with this.
I've just completed my tenth game onsite and I do have them up on my wiki page for now.

[Fropome]

My first game here, it's been a painful wait but I'm pleased it landed to Tracey who is an excellent mod from what I've seen (Hi Tracy, and happy (belated) birthday!)
Overall I'm pretty new to mafia, have played a handful games on other sites, and followed a few games here in the waiting period. I'm really looking forward to it. Have a couple of wins under my belt including one scum game, and I've contributed to some terribad town performances.

Re: Eye Urn's point: From what I've seen so far I hope we have game full of active players. I think lynching absentees sucks, but the fact that a typical scum ploy is to go for inactives it makes it a great place for them to hide, as any town player who suggests it instantly looks suss. It's also anti-town to not contribute at least to clearing yourself, why give scum the information advantage?

RVS is no biggie to me, maybe that will change when I know more people or when I have a better idea how useful or pointless the whole exercise can be.

So Hi all!