Micro 158: borkgame (Game Over)

[Does Bo Know]

I'll post tonight. On my phone now.

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Okay, just started reading for realsies.

Gonna try to post my main thoughts so far; I'll try writing this with my own thought process, meaning I'll type what I think as I read and no worries about repeating anyone's logic.

Firstly, I noticed something skimming through the topic that people were reading each others' games. I'm not meta-ing anyone. Takes too much time. Meta me if you want (check my wiki), but try to limit questions about my meta in here to a minimum.

On to the read:

#27: Rach is concerned that Selkies is pushing a Sven wagon when 1. no one formally agreed and 2. the wagon clearly isn't a wagon yet. Selkie's push could be taken as a joke, or something, but Rach's concern is real, but my gut tells me it's not town-concern.

#33: Sven's reaction reads terribad here. Also calls Rach townie even though she's done basically

nothing

townie. At most, her 27 is suspicious.

#43: Icebox's been posting fluff by page 2. OH SHIT SCUMTELL. (But not really.)

#50: Varsoon comes in and says something is super scum, yet doesn't vote. So I can't tell if he's serious or not. If he were serious, he probably should've voted here; after all, it wouldn't have been an RVS reason.

#52: So he does think it's still RVS here. Clearly wasn't being serious in 50. Okay.

#58: No explanation as to why his reads literally swapped. Cool. Scumpoints for Sven.

#60: Majiffy comes in, likes wagons. Probably not all that into RVS junk either.

#62: Didn't count the votes, but Majiffy's wagon vote was L-1...not comfortable with this, but L-1 wagons can dish a lot of good info.

#70: Oh goodness...anyone unvoting an L-1 wagon doesn't make them townie. Scum and town both do this: townies are concerned their read isn't good, scummies may do it to know that person will flip town.

but

#71: Sven still asks Rach questions after his unvote. And then asks her to rank people from town to scum when there's barely anything on the table.

And

, she could be dead at any time, so her reads can help the scum target people (maybe, but whatevs); Rach is town if Sven is scum, most likely.

#72: Shrugging L-1 off isn't a scumtell. Ape shit over a vote that you don't even know is serious yet? I find that worse. Maybe that's just me.

#73: Rach is so townie here, tbh. Calmly answers Sven's questions, seems sincere, willing to listen to reason even though she has suspicions.

#83: Icebox pulls Varsoonscum out of thin air, even though he's posted after that fact.

But

, apparently can't see Varsoon's other posts noting how not-serious the entire RVS business was. Hm...maybe keeping a closer eye on this. Might not mean much, but as scum, I can argue with my scumbuddy while there's a bigger picture happening, make a lot of noise, and quiet it back down.

#85: I usually am the one to say vote someone you think is the most scummy, but Varsoon seems pretty content not voting. Voting isn't only to ensure people know your position on your top scumread; also creates wagons that will reveal more information, maybe takes into account certain roles, etc. Also, Varsoon immediately silences Icebox here. Can't see them being a scumteam.

tl;dr
VOTE: Sven
Majiffy has some splainin' to do.
Icebox pulling Varsoon out of nowhere is weird.
Rach is probtown.
Selkies is probtown.
Varsoon is neutral, can't read him very well ATM.

Feel free to ask me questions about any of my reads so far, though.

Disturbed_One and Jennifer should post.

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Well, I didn't say much about Varsoon either, but his entrance did seem interesting to comment on and his responses to Icebox could be useful later.

You're much closer to my read on Varsoon than my read on Rach.

Rach isn't scum at all to me right now. She did have that suspicious post or two in the very beginning, but her play seems to be very question-heavy, so in the end I'm not really holding it against her. If you're referring to my comments on #70, I was just saying that Rach seeing Sven unvoting as a townie move isn't a very good towntell to me.

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Sorry, I didn't finish my thought as to why you seemed more townie than Varsoon.

Mainly gut-instinct for now. You seem much more inclined to get the game going, being proactive, as opposed to Varsoon, who hadn't really done much at all.

Yep. Going with that.

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I think you either have the wrong post number or the wrong player there, because that doesn't make sense.

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The reaction to your vote on him isn't a question, or confusion, or anything that shows curiosity at all, when I felt like he could've just asked why you voted him or anything. It's an

assumption

, without even considering your vote might've been part of RVS (it clearly wasn't when you responded right after, that your vote was serious at that point), or considering another reason the vote's on him.

He also tried to get one head of your hydra to feel bad for making the other one vote him. Doesn't feel right to me.

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Just checked back at my 108, apparently I deleted the line where I asked Rach which parts of the post sounded townie. Probably because I was more focused on answering Selkies.

@Rach: Why is my 104 a town post?

@Icebox: I shouldn't answer my thoughts on that until Rach answers why she thinks my post is town. Could give her ammo on the account she is scum.

PEdit: Sorry for the late post Icebox, I was editing my wiki while my other tab was open with the game.

And yeah, what's NLS?

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Um.

Selkies, that might've been Icebox's

case on RachMarie

. Not his

reads on us three players

.

PEdit: And she finds me town because I'm grouping people into town and scum piles...why does that make me town again?

PEdit2: Selkies ninja'd me grrr. Even though I disagree that giving reads quickly is a scum tell. It's mainly null, IMO. Scum might not want to give quick reads because it might put them under heavy questioning they don't want for reads they don't expect to explain the first time.

[Does Bo Know]

Also, I'm liking this game's activity so far. Much better than the other Micro's I'm in, already 6 pages deep and it's only been like 6 hours.

I'm going to bed soon then school tomorrow, any other big questions you need to ask me between now and...lunch time tomorrow?

PEdit: Was going to question Rach about her 127, but Selkies beat me to it. So I want to know that too.

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@Rach: Ah, okay, makes a little more sense after rereading 122.

@Selkies: It is a fairly pointless discussion. I just wanted to discuss things because I feel bad for missing out for 5 pages when I could've just been here.

PEdit: @Icebox: I'm not scum.

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Yeah I'm going to sleep, if you guys had questions for me tonight, you can still ask and I'll respond tomorrow.

Hopefully I can keep up with the activity of this game. I missed a lot of it tonight because I was at the Colin and Brad Show when the game started.

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Okay, actually woke up a little earlier than expected.

I don't really agree with any of Selkies' Icebox case, except that his vote on Varsoon is pretty weird, and his next post trying to reinforce it.

Also, notice you give Icebox crap for not really saying anything in L-1, but leaving Majiffy alone. Actually, you haven't even mentioned Majiffy (with a simple Ctrl+F in your ISO, anyway, will do a more complete read of the ISO when I have more time).

I don't see scum motivation for Varsoon to say any of what he's said so far, either.

Why is Rach town for that terrible wagon? I don't get it.

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I was gonna say why I disagreed later today when I had more time.

School now

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@Jennifer:
- I think Icebox is weird for pulling that out because he never mentioned anything about it earlier, when it definitely happened much earlier. Maybe that's partially a hydra thing where one head didn't see it and the other one was catching up. I don't think it's weird how Icebox switched to RachMarie in that situation because one head sees Varsoon as the best vote, one has RachMarie.
- No, I don't think town always fully explains their reads, but explaining reads does give more information, this information leads toward more discussion, so it's a good thing it happens; whether the actual reads are right though, is a different judgment.

Sven's comment on "increasing the heat on him" and being fairly reactive

in the same post

just adds to the juicy scumness.

I don't like how heavily convinced Varsoon is that Selkies is the best vote. His case seems too weak. Also, while he may not believe in voting in RVS, I don't think it's very good to completely ignore the RVS in a game and not take it into account.

As far as my simultaneously vindicating Rach as town and others as scum, I often make links in my head thinking "These two can't be a scum team" because it can help my PoE in the long run if I ever need it to make a decision. If you don't believe me, check my meta, but it's clear how you feel about that. I respect it, anyway. Meta's not worth my time.

Now here's the thing: I knew Varsoon IRL a while back, like four years ago. Dude's clever. I'm not surprised he placed a trap with post 50. I'm not surprised he placed a post-quota trap in his first newbie game. So I don't think he's lying, especially when he tries to describe how things can be better than RVS.

@Varsoon
- In your "method" of getting the game rolling, how does the agreed person that has the L-(scum) wagon convince the rest of the people that they're town? Like, what content should they use to defend themselves?
- Did you ever give a solid reason as to why you think Sven is your 2nd/3rd scum read?
- Is there any reason you prefer a vote on Selkies (making him a lame L-4) over Sven, your 2nd/3rd scum read (making him a more-productive L-2 wagon)?

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I'm not surprised he placed a trap with post 50.

Given that Varsoon said that he wasn't sure what the 'trap' indicates our alliance as...

He's also just starting playing Mafia.

He could be clever enough to get reactions from a test, but maybe doesn't understand what those reactions mean as far as finding alignment.

PEdit: Sven doing some AtE, along with stating his only read and complaining about one head of Selkies even though he thinks Orc's probing is townie...

Are you done catching up yet?

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Well, for the most part, my vote probably is set in stone.

Why is the ignore list business very pro-town? Is it really

that

pro-town?

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I am probably never going to read that. From the sound of things you are set in your read and have the day 1 vote in stone so I will be ignoring you too.

And as soon as I agree, you jump on me for it.

Was that a trap?

Discussion with Varsoon about RVS is actually unrelated to the game; I just can't PM or anything outside this game because that's against the rules, and I'm interested in the discussion.

Yeah yeah, votes aren't really set in stone yadda yadda, but I'm more comfortable saying this vote's set in stone than most. The game is incredibly active so you never know what's gonna happen, but totally confident in my Sven vote right now.

I completely forgot about why the Icebox case is something I disagree with. It's been echoed multiple times, but mainly your case at that point in the game was a bunch of confusion that Varsoon couldn't clarify and some of it was hydra confusion. I'll go back and read again later if you want me to be even more specific about things.

Majiffy's case on Selkies is pretty much the same as Varsoon's.

I was going to say this earlier but I wanted to see more of what Selkies thought of Varsoon's vote on him before saying this: Selkies didn't see the actual reason Varsoon saw Selkies as scum, and decided to tear apart everything else multiple times. He thought he was missing something from Varsoon's small case, but I read it and noticed the reason on the first read. I don't see why Selkies didn't think to look back.

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Sven's threatening to go after people for not posting as much

Even though it hasn't even been 24 hours since game start.

And he's criticizing me about time...I don't get it anymore.

Calm down bro. I don't like people less active than others, but for a game this fast, they're not going to be scum for you.

I just don't see how making an ignore list is very protown. The idea seems like a possible town tell to me, not a big one.

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Well you thought I was being sarcastic about it, so I assumed you were serious.

Or were you talking about something else?

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Still on my phone, I'll give more complete thoughts about Majiffy vs. Selkies later.

But Selkies wasn't lining up lynches. He was saying one of those two is most likely scum, which I don't find as too big of a deal unless the Selkies actually

does

blindly lynch the other the next day. You can't tell what he's gonna do D2 if you don't know what anyone's gonna flip D1.

PEdit: Okay that's what you meant.

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Can I just mention that I won't be posting as often for the next 24 hours? Definitely not worth V/LA'ing to the mod but you know, once you don't post in 12 hours Sven will come and find you.

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I leave for like 12 hours and people are already giving me shit for not posting.

Seriously guys?

I didn't even plan to commit to something this active.

Will do my best to catch up and post reads later tonight.

[Does Bo Know]

Got done with everything a lot quicker than expected. Doing a big catch up post in Word right now.

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Let’s go. (Again, will be posting thoughts as I read, so sorry if I repeat some logic. Starting a hard read from my post 270.)

#271: I didn’t like how weak Varsoon’s case was on Selkies, considering according to Varsoon in his 200 that Selkies was the top scum read.

#272: Majiffy says Icebox is town for pursuing something no one else was talking about. Even though Selkies was pursuing Icebox, someone I barely even talked about, just said I’d keep an eye on it. He also assumes Selkies is lining up lynches, even though he said he

thought

one of Varsoon and Icebox is town at that point. Hardly looks like a lined-up lynch.

#273: Varsoon’s words as to why you were scum are as follows:

I agree with your Icebox post, but I’m also preeeetty wary of you. Here’s why.
In a game-climate where a wagon just failed, you make a compelling case against Icebox.
Good scum-hunting,

or scum trying to start another wagon with some inertia this time?

We’ll see. We’ll see.

The bolded is the line I’m talking about. From what I read, I don’t remember you mentioning that, but instead commented saying “Varsoon’s case is crap because all he gave me was compliments.” I just felt like you really didn’t give the statement a second read and think “OH HE THINKS I’M SCUM BECAUSE OF OPPORTUNISM.”

#283: Majiffy seemingly ignoring things, saying he can’t tell what other people think, referring to Icebox (even though he’s assuming the hell out of Selkies with statements later in the argument*), and discussing RVS. Not liking Majiffy here.

*I skimmed the game as it went on before making this long post, and Majiffy did this enough for me to notice it.

#298: Majiffy assumes (hey look he does it again) that Selkies would put blame on me if Icebox were lynched and flipped town. Firstly, I don’t see that at all coming from Selkies’ play. Second, I don’t even say in my very first catch-up post that it’s a huge scum tell in the first place, so Selkies putting blame on me would be bullshit. Third, something tells me the way it’s worded, Icebox is town because Majiffy knows he is.

Yep, I’m feeling Majiffy’s starting to look scummy from this argument. It’s not scum-scum, so it’s either town-town or Selkies is town and Majiffy is scum.

#300: PoE to victory? That sounds like lining up lynches

way fucking more

than Selkies saying one of those two people were probably scum.

#302: Majiffy seems to be talking to other players about incredibly miniscule things (like discussion about RVS, pointless responses to fluff, etc.) except when it comes to Selkies. Awesome. Does it again in #324 but doesn’t comment on the actual content of Icebox’s most recent post.

#346: Yeah…I don’t see why you think Majiffy is town here. His scum case on you is that your views aren’t the same as his, and he’s been contradicting himself the entire argument.

#355: Rach thinks that Varsoon looks like an easy lynch because he’s a newbie. Which is wrong. Varsoon doesn’t play this game like some of the newbies that make newbie mistakes all the time to get lynched.

#399: Sven is doing better from when he woke up to this post. (Not saying he won’t do better later, just thought now would be a good time to say this.)

It’s at this point that I’m thinking my vote won’t be very set in stone, may move it to Majiffy but not sure at this point.

#402: Rach’s reads here are all fence-sitting. Bad Rach. And instead prefers to search meta instead of sticking her neck out and questioning actions.

(And Icebox beat me to it.)

#409: Varsoon

really

seems like he wants reads from people. I’ve never seen anyone push that hard for people to give reads.

#423: Yes, Rach, because 5 posts from a player [sarcasm]definitely pings really hard on a scumdar.[/sarcasm]

(Sven beats me to this in #429)

#453: An argument from PoE could be lining up lynches if you keep your town reads. An argument from 1v1 could also be lining up lynches if it’s a situation where there’s a possible mislynch with LyLo the next day and they actually say, “Okay we’re lynching one today and the other tomorrow.” The latter definitely isn’t happening right now, and the former could happen.

*sigh* 100 posts left.

#459: Meh, I honestly didn’t remember to answer your questions three times, Orc. If you don’t believe me that’s fine. Also, I can see why you see me fence-sitting; I had been skimming the game and not really giving huge opinions on anyone except Sven.

#464: Rach quit posting pointless stuff while you expect D_O and Jen to post pointful stuff.

(Sven beats me to this again.)

And at this point I UNVOTE: Svenskt. Vote will be at the end once I finish the read.

#470: Varsoon switches vote from D_O back to Selkies…I don’t like this. It’s like he chose a time to vote D_O for pressure as soon as Rach did, but then he saw it wasn’t catching much attention, so he switched back. That’s more of my gut telling me that than anything, though.

(also, I know the guy you’re talking about, the one that told you scum like to post pics/gifs…not exactly the best person to listen to when it comes to scum tells. Trust me on that one.)

#477: Maybe I’m just incredibly self-centered, but the vote on me didn’t feel like much of a “I want him lynched” vote. More of a suspicious vote that seemed to be placed to get the most information. But maybe you change your mind further along.

#485: Rach trying to tell more people to participate again. My gut’s telling me that if Rach is scum (which I’m leaning ATM), D_O and Jen may be a very good place to look. (Me too, I guess, but she just started telling me to try to get more active; she’s been telling D_O and Jen that since forever and a half.)

#490: Yeah, Selkies beat me to my comment I made in this post about 470.

#494: Rach’s 17254th mention about telling others to post. Also just says more about past games and meta, no real content again. (Surprise surprise.)

#510: Varsoon’s efforts here have ups and downs. I pretty much agree with most of the post except I still think Selkies is town.

#520: Rach. You say you want 2 scum but can’t get enough reads. Half the players post a lot. Half of 2 is 1. How do you not have even a close-to-scum read that I can see from you?

#529: Awesome, Varsoon’s come to his senses about Selkies. And he’s voting Rach. Sweet, because I’m still thinking Rach-scum at this point.

#535: Um what? Any reason you quit the Selkies wagon that was losing momentum and joined the wagon that has more players on it?

#540: I know you just dropped your solid scum read on me, but no thanks, I’m too lazy to read 66 pages of a game when I’m playing in one that’s going to reach 66 pages by Monday.

#541: Your very first post after my catch up post was simply calling me town. You didn’t agree, but you never really have any reason for your townread. D_O’s in the same position, except he hasn’t posted after that.

#552: Maybe Rach can drop her D_O-scum fetish now that he posted again. And Jen posts later too.

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I apologize for the biggest wall ever, but I tried to make it to where there was less cluttering, only shit that really matters to me, and stuff.

VOTE: RachMarie

Feeling Rach/Majiffy lynch today.

Icebox: Town. Hasn't said a single thing I found scummy or suspicious since my last post, I'm pretty confident that he's townie now.
Sven: Null leaning town. His play since my antagonizing of him has been much more logical and easy to understand.
Selkies: Town. He's been reading more and more transparent as I've caught up on the game, I can't see scum being that transparent about their explanations on things.
D_O: Null.
Jen: Null.
Varsoon: Null leaning town, he's been transparent about the game, but his pursuing of Selkies looked off for a long time, along with some of his votes being on wagons I found uncomfortable for a while. So if it weren't for those he'd be town.

So Rach should be lynched because she's providing fluff and probably trying to look active. At least Majiffy is...well, actually, his activity is mainly a bunch of stuff I find scummy.

I'm cool with voting either one ATM. Rach looks like a better start to me though.

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EBWOP: Yeah, Sven, it's a pretty big post. But I tried formatting it to make sure it shows my thought processes as I was going along.

And look, no fucked-up vote tags.

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bo + ice + selkies + mr awesome = forever?

<3

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bo + ice + selkies + mr awesome = forever?

and who is that mr awesome?

I thought he was just counting me twice and forgot his own name.

Or something like that.

[Does Bo Know]

That probably would've been a lot funnier if you hadn't used that gif already.

I should start saving some and using them when applicable. They make games much more entertaining.

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@Icebox: Does Rem ever post anymore in this topic? Just curious because I'm bored and this game has more activity than anything else I could do on the internet.

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If you can elaborate why a Rach lynch is stupid, that would be great. I'll get to you in 30 minutes with a somewhat case on you, mainly because I'm pretty sure all my general thoughts are in the wall post with some linked posts in there to back them up.

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She reacted very well under pressure in the first RVS wagon.

Is that it?

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Only to a retard. What I did say was that the town loses value from lynching you early as you are from what i have heard a competent and active townie. This is the same logic that rach uses.

Rach did not react at all to the pressure early.

1) No, it's what you said, regardless of what you intended to say.
2) Yes she did. Just because she didn't blow up and freak out like you do doesn't mean she didn't react.

Explain.

She hasn't done anything I think is scummy.

1.) You sounded like you wanted him to intend to say something scummy but ok
2.) She didn't react. And I don't react like Sven. So yeah.

Not elaborating enough on your town read.

My case on you is pretty much all in here. It's throughout the wall.

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Actually, saying she hasn't done anything you think is scummy isn't that bad of an elaboration.

But it would be a lazy answer for scum.

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I agree with Sven, I don't think Majiffy and Rach are scum together anymore either. Majiffy and Rach are both under suspicion, and Majiffy to try calling Rach town at this point if they were scumbuddies doesn't make any sense.

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I read your "case" on me. I'm saying the claims you make are unfounded.

Not sure what you mean by "unfounded" considering I have linked posts next to every comment I make about you.

Actually, saying she hasn't done anything you think is scummy isn't that bad of an elaboration.

But it would be a lazy answer for scum.

Remove blinders.
Lynch Sven.

Not lynching Sven. Sorry.

PEdit: It's actually not that bad of an elaboration unless you'd like him to say why everything we're saying about Rach-scum isn't scummy. I do that sometimes as both town and scum. The fact he isn't rising to Rach's defense without being heavily provoked also points toward them not being a scum team.

I wanted to see if we could get Rach to respond to her wagon first, but that's probably not gonna happen now that the wagon's diluted.

Might jump on the Majiffy wagon if my vote doesn't lynch him, hold on.

PEdit2: Sven, that's not too great of logic either. They both definitely read like he thinks she's done townie stuff since the reaction from the wagon. I don't see how you thought otherwise. *shrug*

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Jennifer.

You should pay attention to Majiffy.

Just saying.

[Does Bo Know]

Okay so I was expecting to be a lot more active tonight.

But I ended up going to my friend's house to play Borderlands 2.

So yeah. Probably gonna end up with another catch-up post tomorrow...morning/noonish. (I'm in CST if you're all wondering.)

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#672: I made post #341 because I was getting frustrated with people trying to encourage others to be more active, even though this game is incredibly hyperactive already, and I felt like I needed to say something.

Also missed yet another question from Rach after reading what Icebox said about her #546: I don't find D_O not saying why he trusts me to be that big of a deal, considering Rach didn't say why she trusted me in her first post; the difference is that Rach was around to explain herself, and maybe D_O wasn't.

Your reads on:
Sven: Seem to point out scummy things, but overall shows you see him as overall town. That's fine.
Me: Of course I disagree with all the scummy stuff because I'm town. If there's anything else specific you'd like to ask, feel free.
Rach: Pretty much completely agree with your reads here.
Selkies: I notice you have him as Town but that most of your points point out scummy things he's done. Awesome.
Varsoon: After thinking about it a little last night, I'm feeling Varsoon's a little more townie than I earlier assumed. This analysis of him makes me feel better about that.
Majiffy: You never finished with him, but I mainly disagree because I don't really see Majiffy's posts there as "good scumhunting."
Other two: I can agree about Jennifer, but D_O's still been hard to read.

Not as good as the rest of your posts, but I do agree with some of your reads.

#690: Tries to explain why she was pressuring others to be active, even though their activities weren't affecting other players, and she couldn't get good reads on the active players. Didn't pick a great time to claim, but promises reads later. Maybe she'll improve.

#723: I'm not a risk-taker like you, so I don't see posting safely is a scum tell. And I don't see how I'm sitting on the fence with players that have been posting a lot (besides you, admittedly, but recently I'm ringing you up as more townie).

#734: I'm trying as hard as I can, Sven. I hate having to do big ass catch up posts but considering my lack of activity compared to everyone else, I can't seem to get in and actually hunt for scum while stating my thoughts on the past 200 posts every day.

#742: Can't read hydras because they're hydras, heavily emphasizes Majiffy as a town read, and doesn't actually have a scum read yet. Awesome.

#744: I'm gonna try my best tonight to post from my phone if everyone wants me to be active, but don't expect me to quote and organize things very elegantly.

D_O wagon being at L-1 was unexpected. But he's replacing out...God help anyone that tries to replace into his slot. I kinda want to have D_O lynched just to save him the trouble, because I kinda know how he feels at this point, that I can't give the attention this game deserves.

Oooh and someone does replace D_O...

I don't really feel compelled to go deeper into post-by-post analysis anymore. I'm losing motivation to play this game since I feel like I'll never catch up.

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Okay, if I have to quote things...actually I'll link them instead.
#203 You say

literally under Varsoon's case

that he's wary of you because you made a nice case. That's not why he's wary of you.
#205 You try to recap why Varsoon thinks you're scum. You say:
"-I made a case on you based on a post you admitted was scummy
-I disagree with you on RVS
-I built a nice case

Yeah, you need to try again. Good effort though."
And you still missed what he was saying about opportunism.

I still disagree that his case on you at that time was crap, and wasn't worth your vote. But honestly, that's not important anymore.

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@Sven: You're still town to me. There aren't any particular posts I dislike besides the recurring idea that you're the "captain" of this town bloc that clearly hasn't been completed yet.

UNVOTE: RachMarie

@Mod: Replace me, please. Very much like D_O, I don't think I can stay active long enough to keep up with this game's activity, and it's stressing me out more than it should.

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Oh man, I feel bad for stepping out of the game, but I've been skimming it. Just finished tonight, sorry for bumping this. I just wanted to make some comments.

Selkies and AA9,

excellent

fakeclaims. I've always been scared to do shit like that, but maybe I can start growing a pair and taking risks. I would've claimed doctor if pressured heavily.

Also,

[soon-to-be AA9] + ice + selkies + mr awesome = forever?

This totes should've worked.

[Does Bo Know]

Same. Unfortunately my hands are a little tied with games (3 ongoing and maybe a 4th soon as IC)

[Does Bo Know]

Boozemafia sounds amazing.

Is it amazing because it's a surprise?

Or is it exactly what it sounds like?

[Does Bo Know]

When's it starting? I'm visiting Europe and I won't be back until next week.