WWE Believe in the Shield

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What up dudes

VOTE: Deserado

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Oh this playerlist is kind of cool

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Are you softclaiming fandango?

C'mon son

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You

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RatedR has Vifam in it. VIFAM!! and everyone should be ok with killing that

Everyone loves me

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I was gonna vote desperado on account of him being retti from epicmafia.com and pissing himself all the time but my pal did it ofr me. Also, its with shame and guilt that I admit that I am not part of the Shield, and would love to be.

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Arc is town since she's not playing akwardly

Were out of RVS and all these wagons are lame, especially the skull one which is just dumb so yeah, feels like scum is riding on that wagon atm.

VOTE: Ravenpaw

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Nero looks like he's town also

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hahahaha ArcAngel is styling on Sven this page

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Also Ravenpaw is legitimately scummy

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Have you seen scum Arc?

It's awkward to the point you want to cringe

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Have you seen scum Arc?

It's awkward to the point you want to cringe

So you agree that her awkwardness isn't alignment indicative, and that maybe we should stop bringing up Arc's meta and focus on her gameplay on a game by game basis? She's town because her arguments make sense and come from a town mindset, not because she isn't posting awkwardly.

Dude what

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Okay sure whatever man lol

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Have you seen scum Arc?

It's awkward to the point you want to cringe

You do realise she might be turning into a better player though?
~Krabs

I guess

Her English has gotten heaps better though

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We should start with Ravenpaw

Ravenpaw's recent vote on Nero Cain is actually even worse than the skulldog vote

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"WHOA you must have got this from your QT slip!!!!!!!!!!!"

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Wow that was easy

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Vifam: Charisma A +

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Yeah you're definitely not Retti

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Desperado dumb it down a bit man

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I dont know if you realize it but your posts recently are really in your face aggressive interrogation and that is a pain to deal with

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How is that a policy lynch

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Oh alright

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Hey um... Vifam... why are you not posting as your hydra account RatedR? You know the one you /inned this game with?

Also FuDuzn, when did Mom and I play a game with you were we were both scum... Mom and I have not been scum in the same game on this site ever...

Also Mom, I checked, and you did specify that it was you and not Dad who was taking the V/LA.

How about you dont tell me what to do nerd

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[quote="In post 230

Wow that was easy

A little too easy wouldn’t you say?

Not at all, no. The speed of the (pretty small) wagon is more related to the quality of the argument against you than any possible conspiracy theories you might want to pull out of your ass, scum.

-Grazie

I'm signing my posts with "Grazie" now to make things clearer, Vifam won't sign his posts cause he can't be arsed to do so. To clarify your reads and shit, my only other post as of yet was this one

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Trying to keep up with this game with so many weird names and hydras is pretty rough. I realize that's hypocritical coming from me, but I'm just calling them as I see them.

Instead of trying to come across as an united force, I'm gonna go for the whole bipolar "one person says something, the other person says another thing" style thing, hopefully to confuse all of you guys even further.

I like the cut of Svenskt's jib and read him as Town.
Monkey doesn't strike me as a particularly townie or scummy person, but I believe he had no Mafia intentions with his Fandango question that has since then caused a out of proportions seismic reaction.
RavenPaw, the person my partner is voting, easily comes across to me as the scummiest person in this game as of yet.

The line that sticks out to me as a very weird one is this one:

Whoa! Did Nero accidentally let slip some qt discussion he'd had?
Hmm...

Unvote

Vote: Nero Cane

Then, he defends it by going "Oh, come on, I had other reasons to vote him, plus, it has gathered DISCUSSION" (post #230, can't be arsed to quote it) which is an absolute bullshit defense of a bad vote and/or bad logic
Lastly, there's a lot of bullshit in post #231, particularly Ravenpaw passively aggressively asking FuDuzn why he felt like sharing meta he had, why would any Townie do this? It comes across as Mafia trying to look pro-active.

Other far smaller scum-reads include GoodCopBadCop, which just comes across as an absolute bullshitter, including his logic on MonkeyMan, his absolutes with nearly no logic ("if he gets offended at someone saying he sucks as scum, HE MUST BE SCUM") and his questioning of very small and worthless things ("Hmm, clicking someone's ISO by accident, how unusual, DON'T YOU THINK?)

There's also Fuzzyman, every single post he has made right now aside from his last one have come across as scummy or off. Keeping my eyes on you, friend.

-Grazie

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Also, ancient posts, but I gotta quote them. From my own partner:

Arc is town since she's not playing akwardly

Have you seen scum Arc?

It's awkward to the point you want to cringe

I don't know, even before I read these posts, my first thought of Arc's posts, especially his big stand-off with Monkey, come across as nothing short of "awkward". Is he really that much more awkward as scum?

-Grazie

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Allright, who else is town? what about raven?

That one's scum, mate.

-Grazie

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Man, dude, it'd be really great if you actually read posts when playing Forum Mafia.

#287

-Grazie

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She stated that she has never been scum, I thought it was very genuine and I hve problem seeing freshmeet going as hard as she does against targets.

That post did come across as genuine to me, but it doesn't make up for all the other scum-signals she's put through. I'd love at the very least her response to my argument on her

Sorry, I usuall dont read long posts unless they are adressed to me.

Hahahaha, I have a feeling we're gonna get along very well in this game, mate.

-Grazie

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RATEDR is starting to give me a null/weak scum read. No information or real content in any of their posts, no conjecture, no... anything :\

You've obviously never played with me before

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A lot of hostility coming from RATEDR too which is never helpful.

What the fuck, I'm pretty chill man


Anyway Im liking Sven's recent posting and I'm thinking he's town

Most of the hydras in this game kind of look good for the most part except for maybe GoodCopBadCop but whatever

I'm really not feeling well about Doctor C

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At the moment I'd be willing to lynch


Jebus
Desperado
GoodBad
Ravenpaw
Doctor C

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RATEDR is starting to give me a null/weak scum read. No information or real content in any of their posts, no conjecture, no... anything :\

You've obviously never played with me before

Pretty obvious considering this is my first game on the site, yeah.

O ok

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I kinda like Des. Not only does he have a town read on me but he looks like he's actually hunting. Is there any specific posts that make you uneasy about that slot?

I dont like #150. It's a HUGE overreaction to what I originally said and that kind of set off my radar

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I kinda like Des. Not only does he have a town read on me but he looks like he's actually hunting. Is there any specific posts that make you uneasy about that slot?

I dont like #150. It's a HUGE overreaction to what I originally said and that kind of set off my radar

My read on AA was essentially a meta read, I was observing her playstyle in past games and going off on my read on her based on that. So I'd LIKE to think I know what the fuck I'm talking about when I say that stuff. I dont like the fact that he seemed to imply it didn't matter when it was something as simple as a metaread

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Also, ancient posts, but I gotta quote them. From my own partner:

Arc is town since she's not playing akwardly

Have you seen scum Arc?

It's awkward to the point you want to cringe

I don't know, even before I read these posts, my first thought of Arc's posts, especially his big stand-off with Monkey, come across as nothing short of "awkward". Is he really that much more awkward as scum?

-Grazie

Yeah dude

Look at overly posh mafia

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I dont know what you mean, what I said was Arc is amazingly akward as scum


I dont like that you respond by going "whoa that's insufficient" when I'm obviously playing off from my own experience with her

At that point you cant really be attempting to prove that I'm wrong, you just have to go with it. And if you didn't believe me at that point you could have just asked for evidence, I dont know if you did that but if you did I probably missed it. I just dont see why it couldn't have simply be left at that.

Which is why I was like whatever when you went off

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Have you seen scum Arc?

It's awkward to the point you want to cringe

So you agree that her awkwardness isn't alignment indicative, and that maybe we should stop bringing up Arc's meta and focus on her gameplay on a game by game basis? She's town because her arguments make sense and come from a town mindset, not because she isn't posting awkwardly.

This felt really abrasive, if you found my meta read questionable you could have just asked for evidence

It felt like scum being confrontational just to seem town

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I dont like Esquire

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I mean that he seems like a really lame person

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Have you seen scum Arc?

It's awkward to the point you want to cringe

So you agree that her awkwardness isn't alignment indicative, and that maybe we should stop bringing up Arc's meta and focus on her gameplay on a game by game basis? She's town because her arguments make sense and come from a town mindset, not because she isn't posting awkwardly.

This felt really abrasive, if you found my meta read questionable you could have just asked for evidence

It felt like scum being confrontational just to seem town

I didn't want evidence. I assumed you were telling the truth and providing a counterpoint to your meta read. If Arc acts awkwardly as town and scum, then calling her town for not acting awkwardly is not a logical conclusion. Get it? And I guess I'm saying I just don't see how that post is at all confrontational. I was going more for a "we both agree here but for different reasons so let's let this be the end of it and move on" sort of tone.

I guess I misunderstood because of your tone?

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Sure man

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Wow, has it been 48 hours already? I felt like it was just yesterday when I made my effort-post. Will read later today.

-Grazie

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Seems like my partner has left me here to fend for myself. Last Prod-Dodge, Effort-Post coming in a few hours.

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Forgot to sign

-Grazie

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Seems like my partner has left me here to fend for myself. Last Prod-Dodge, Effort-Post coming in a few hours.

Sorry im gonna be having limited access for a while

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Here are my reads since the last time I posted.

-Krab Bucket comes across as wooden with the analysis in his posts at all times, from when he's voting other players to when he's defending himself, I can't tell if this is just how he acts or if he's acting like this cause he's Mafia.

-When I first properly read this thread, I saw GoodCopBadCop as jumpy, very confident and over-bearing with his reads, which has led to dumb and terrible lines (lines I quoted in my previous effort-post). He has since then accused me of buddying and kept being over-aggressive on very small and worthless things, while also being very wishy-washy at times. I'm more than fine with lynching him at this point. This is not even counting his, for lack of better word, stupid "reaction test" with the vig thing. Trolling or not, I still think he's Mafia.

-I don't like Raven's defense to my attacks, if anything it just made me feel even more that he's scum. For reference, its post #393. In that same post he defends GoodCop's abrasive playstyle on every small worthless thing as "good play", which let's just say I strongly disagree with. All his posts since then have come across as illogical and just the complete opposite of my reads, including his defense of Krab, his defense of GoodCop and his scum-read on Ferret (who I've had as null to Town this whole time). Having different opinions than me does not make one Mafia, but its a good point to add on top of all the others.

Now for some quotes

Wow, has it been 48 hours already? I felt like it was just yesterday when I made my effort-post. Will read later today.

-Grazie

Welcome to the scum pile.

Care to explain? Inactivity = Scum? Or do you not believe I lost track of the time of this game?

I supose it is a wrestling clan consisting of 3 individuals? That are Evil? Why cant shield be power roles?

They're a badass clan of 3 dudes that fucks shit up and wins every match, I'm sure they're Mafia. We probably have another Mafia in our hands, either that or The Shield has one more member or two that the creator of the game has added for benefit of game balance. Not that this matters, anyways.

We are not lynching Krabs today. That ouburst was fucking real.

So? You could easily be annoyed in the exact same way if you were Mafia. Not having your hydra partner do anything while having to deal with votes and accusations is equally frustrating to Mafia as it is to Town. I'm not saying I want to lynch him Today, but this is piss poor reasoning for "giving him a chance"

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Ops, one correction

Here are my reads since the last time I posted.

-Krab Bucket comes across as wooden with the analysis in his posts at all times, from when he's voting other players to when he's defending himself, I can't tell if this is just how he acts or if he's acting like this cause he's Mafia.

Not counting his last post where he got frustrated and said he wanted to claim, obviously.

Also, this is Grazie, again.

-Grazie

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omg, reggin! John Cena is here, we can consider ourselves saved from the Shield!

Or can we?

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-Grazie. I always forget to sign

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Okay Im back dudes

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As in Vifam is back wasup

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Damm Im not trying to read this

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Usually I'd play it by ear but since SGR is here I'll wait for him to summarize it


Why are we voting ArcAngel

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why should we waste time explaining things to someone who comes and goes as he pleases

What

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You act like Im begging for an explanation I really dont give a fuck

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Oh okay

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RATEDR i think ur town (because of Romo Grazie's posts, i have no idea how to read vifam and the last time i tried i failed) but yr tunnel on raven's going nowhere and idk you might be right but i'm not feeling it yet, you need to look around more okay

Fair enough. I'm not feeling the Krab Bucket lynch, especially with him replacing out. He still felt very wooden but there are bigger fish to fry.

Fish such as

*Drumroll*

Unvote

Vote: GoodCopBadCop

-Grazie

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Also, Vifam. Not much has changed since you left, at least not in my opinion. All our previous FoSes still feel scummy as fuck as far as I'm concerned, although I'm not so sure on Raven anymore.

Fuzzyman and GoodCopBadCop are the possible targets today, IMO, Krab Bucket replaced out and I feel like giving his replacement a chance (he's not that scummy anyways), Raven is still pretty scummy but doesn't have the same support she did before.

-Grazie

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Just lynch Krab already. He replaced out as soon as we caught him.

I don't think this is the case. Also, this might be a little bit cheap of me, but the fact he replaced out kind of gave me Town vibes.

-Grazie

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Voting for the extension

I realize this game is unattractive (hell, its being unattractive to me) but waiting a few more days to give the mod a chance to save this game is ok. Also, I think I need a bit more breathing space for both me and my hydra partner to reread this game.

Same. Shame, I didn't want them to die either. I know at least Raaize should have responded since Vif was away. But like I said, it looks like they crumbed traitor.

Crumbed traitor? What?

How so? Have you never seen Scum replace out of a game before?

Not really, no, is it a common habit here in MS? I don't deny that Krab would be equally frustrated as Town or Mafia with his situation, but I thought that frustration was the first piece of organic reaction krab gave in the whole game (and last), he had come across as wooden the rest of the game, which is what made me suspect him in the first place.

Also, I thought GoodCopBadCop was scummier than Krab even before there was a replacement anyways. So I still would rather get GCBC

-Grazie

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Also, Ravenpaw, I'm not answering to you because you're not bringing up any point or question worthy of discussion. You keep acting as fake and forced as you did 38 or so pages ago. Although there are bigger fish to fry now.

-Grazie

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Uh I really need to catch up with this thread

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heya, petapan. First of all, are you Peta or Reggin? Hard to keep track, especially with your John Cena gimmick (which I'm guessing means you're Reggin)

Also, what are your thoughts on Raven and GoodCopBadCop? You have briefly touched on those two but I'd like to know what you think of them a little more in depth.

-Grazie

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Is it possible for us to lynch Doctor C

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Like right now

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He's scum

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How do you know?

I haven't been paying that much attention to the thread but I think he's a better lynch than most of the wagons up right now

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Why are those people your suspect

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lol this blows

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Is it possible for us to lynch Doctor C

Like right now

Why??

He's scum

How do you know?

How do you know?

I haven't been paying that much attention to the thread but I think he's a better lynch than most of the wagons up right now

Lol.

Yeah I have alot of people i wanna lynch

RATED, FUZZY, MALCOLM

^first tier suspects.

Why are those people your suspect

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Rated.

Man you're an asshole

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Seriously though I have not read the last 40 pages of this thread

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Since when is not reading the thread a scumtell

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This heyman fella, is this someone who could have like a 3 man team or something? Would that fit within the wrastlin lore?

Or do we have free roamers

Paul Heyman is totally working with Brock Lesnar and CM Punk.. Maybe Brad Maddox too...? Hmm, maybe. CM Punk and Brock Lesnar are badass as fuck (as well as The Shield) so we're dealing with 5 enemies left, minimum.

Okay so theory time.

Why scum killed GCBC.

Yes this is a reach.

Not at all a reach, I hate to speculate flavor, but I will do so anyways.

One of the big defining things about The Shield is that they come out of nowhere (through the crowd, sometimes after lights turn off ala Undertaker) to attack someone. It is very possible that The Shield has a 1-shot day-vig as long as they're united. Or better yet, perhaps the flavor is that they can't do their kill at night, and must do it at day.

That said, it doesn't explain why they'd get GoodCopBadCop, which was kind of obvious Mafia from the beginning, so I guess maybe it was a vig from Town and the flavor is just that The Shield kills everyone in this game...? Sorry, flavor-speculation, I'm just interested in it, I can't wait for the OP to reveal the roles at the end.

Ummm... RATEDR just TOLD us that he hasn't read the thread. Scummy? Yes. Sven's case? Yes. Let's lynch RATEDR. Noone else sees the scumminness of xMALCOMx...

VOTE: RATEDR

This is a stupid, stupid vote with a stupid, STUPID reason. Vifam may have not been reading the thread, but I have, and I have been posting stuff. Also, not bothering to read the thread is not a scum-tell, its more of a town-tell than a scum-tell, for that matter, although I'd place it solidly at null.

-Grazie

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Ummm... RATEDR just TOLD us that he hasn't read the thread. Scummy? Yes. Sven's case? Yes. Let's lynch RATEDR.

Noone else sees the scumminness of xMALCOMx...

VOTE: RATEDR

Malcolm had 6 votes (same as Mutley now that GCBC is dead) before you unvoted.

Heya, pal, are you Rondar?

-Grazie

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Also: "Sven's case? Yes." hahahah what case? "Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Rated" is not a case. It's barely even analysis. He just quoted a bunch of posts and said "Here, look!"

Sven is being a bit of a dick, IMO, but I don't really blame him for being frustrated with the game. I still think he's Town and if he's faking it, well, damn...

-Grazie

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I think sven wasn't trying to make a case when he quoted those things, I just think he was being a jerk and calling us bad players who don't give effort and shit.

-Grazie

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Since when is not reading the thread a scumtell

Well its not exactly pro-town to not read and give thoughts and scum do lurk all the time...

I guess but pro town =/= not scum scum can be active give thoughts and reads and all that junk

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Since when is not reading the thread a scumtell

Since I said it was.

...

unvote

ferretlove

-Grazie

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Since when is not reading the thread a scumtell

Since I said it was.

...

unvote

vote ferretlove

-Grazie

fix'd

-Grazie

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No SGR lets vote Doctor C

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Bigger fish to fry homeboi

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RATEDR and xMALCOMx have already been explained. Not sure about fuzzy, however.

I agree I would be fine with an xMALCOMx or RATEDR lynch today.

I have the same itch that nero has, nero has called out almost everypost I feel bad with. Fuzzys post about "wanting malcolm dead or i am pissed" got me to unvote... but i dont know.. i am back in the saddle for now.

no, we should be lynching Goat or Despo.

Not despo, my read is noob town. Goat is okay but not great. Keep pressure on malcolm, nacho should be able to come across as town if he is one.

Ummm... RATEDR just TOLD us that he hasn't read the thread. Scummy? Yes. Sven's case? Yes. Let's lynch RATEDR. Noone else sees the scumminness of xMALCOMx...

VOTE: RATEDR

Uhm, malcolm was one vote from being tied lead wagon...

Since when is not reading the thread a scumtell

Its not, but it is anti town. Ask yourself how we should know that you are town?...you are putting in no work, you are not even reading the game, why should we let you stick arround?

Okay so theory time.

Why scum killed GCBC.

Yes this is a reach.

Not at all a reach, I hate to speculate flavor, but I will do so anyways.

One of the big defining things about The Shield is that they come out of nowhere (through the crowd, sometimes after lights turn off ala Undertaker) to attack someone. It is very possible that The Shield has a 1-shot day-vig as long as they're united. Or better yet, perhaps the flavor is that they can't do their kill at night, and must do it at day.

That said, it doesn't explain why they'd get GoodCopBadCop, which was kind of obvious Mafia from the beginning, so I guess maybe it was a vig from Town and the flavor is just that The Shield kills everyone in this game...? Sorry, flavor-speculation, I'm just interested in it, I can't wait for the OP to reveal the roles at the end.

Good, but I want more. you basicly just started with the question "why id they kill gcbc, and ended with the question. I dont think all kills are shield flavored. Until we see ALOT of kills that are shield flavored and no other flavors of death then you shouldnt think so either.

I think sven wasn't trying to make a case when he quoted those things, I just think he was being a jerk and calling us bad players who don't give effort and shit.

-Grazie

I am not a jerk. You come in here, asking to lynch someone because you dont like any wagons and you havent read the last 40 pages. What I do is I hold you accountable for that. Because to me its shit. And I want to get that message across. Work with me and you will have no problems with me.

Dude this is a fucking hydra are you serious

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Rated, yes i know you are a hydra, i dont understand why that matters

You were replying to SGR, SGR HAS been reading the thread. The person you are talking about is me

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Rated, yes i know you are a hydra, i dont understand why that matters

You were replying to SGR, SGR HAS been reading the thread. The person you are talking about is me

Oh. what is sgr short for?

Anyway, who are your suspects and top townies then?

SGR, SGRaaize

I think most of the hydras is town, I dont see Malcom as a good lynch today since his posting looks town to me.

Scum are Doctor C, MonkeyMan, and possibly Ferretlover atm.

I've done a short skim of this thread and that's how my reads have changed anyway

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Rated, yes i know you are a hydra, i dont understand why that matters

You were replying to SGR, SGR HAS been reading the thread. The person you are talking about is me

Oh. what is sgr short for?

Anyway, who are your suspects and top townies then?

SGR, SGRaaize

I think most of the hydras is town, I dont see Malcom as a good lynch today since his posting looks town to me.

Scum are Doctor C, MonkeyMan, and possibly Ferretlover atm.

I've done a short skim of this thread and that's how my reads have changed anyway

Being a hydra does not make you town. GCBC was a hydra and he was scum. Lumping the hydra's together as if they have some commonality seems like some stupid way of trying to make yourself look more pro town.

Incidentally GCBC was one of our scum reads though

Anyway Im not saying that being a hydra MAKES you town, Im saying the hydras look town