Mini 1449 - Ordinary Town

[Dyslexicon]

/confirmz

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Hey, Hapa, I'm not late to the party, I'm fashionably late.
Reading through I also found it a bit strange that Hapa didn't mention me, but only the ones with 1 post. But his and CheeryP's discussion doesn't really scream scumminess on either side.
Btw, can't blame my absence on rl stuff. More wasn't in the mood for RVS and a headache.
NC's vote and explanation is weird. I don't get it.
Meh, that's all.

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@hp, I'd rather stay in my lighthouse where I live, with my binocular, sipping on some coffee. Aka, wait with a vote until I get the urge to read more carefully through. Seems like votes are flying high anyways. Keep it up sports!

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If this is the best you can come up with after being gone for 2 days, I can't say that I'm thrilled. There's not one remotely concrete read in here. I get that it's possible not to be sure of things at this stage, but geez don't you have any questions to ask? Aren't you curious about

anything

?

Nope, didn't have any questions really. The things I was the most curious about while reading was addressed quite quicly after.

We have 4 pages of thread. That's not difficult to catch up on at all. You sound lazy and lack any sense of urgency to find mafia. What gives?

I'm awakening.

As of now, though? I could see scum between Dyslexicon and Daemon. I find that scum doesn't jump on early wagons so much.

Doesn't this include everyone not jumping on the wagons? Like Hapa or you i.e?

@Toomai: Surely you must have noticed how many players there was in this game before stating your worries about the wagon on GCBC? (post #47)
Your post #87 gives your opinion on NC's "bad posts" with a vote. I'd assumed you were also talking about his "Why me and not Toomai". But in post #113 it seems like you didn't offer this post much thought at all, which I find strange given the nature of the post an that it involved you. If you first found it to be a reasonable question, why didn't you pursue it when NC didn't get an answer, only heat. Your reactions doesn't make much sense imo.

@Jakedash: I'm also wondering how Zef's post #58 is wow-town, given that he has not played on mafiascum before?

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I'm sorry I haven't been contributing more. Finals are proving hell. With such vocal townish play from Hapa there's gonna be mostly baaaaa anyways.
I strongly agree with Zef's post #168 where he agrees with some other players. Sheepasheep.
VOTE: NC

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I have to add though, there's a lot of agreement here as for now, at least if I compare to the other games I've played. It makes me feel uneasy, but I don't know why. I can't help but feel I'm overlooking something. Regardless, I'll be happy with a NC lynch, cause he seems very scummy, and scum have to go.

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Don't like this at all. The blatant sheeping with no addition, then the following post is just empty talk about everyone agreeing? Looks like filler. Still like my Varsoon vote, but Dys is my second choice.

Um, I'm not going to make up points when I don't have any. I wouldn't consider it filler when my vote counts as much as anyones.

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Hai! Got prodded, sorry =/

his vote on NC is basically justified with "well that's the most popular wagon so sounds good"

Actually it's justified with the same reasons as Zef, more or less.

And I'm the only one to draw some attention to you for sheeping and providing nothing, and conveniently I'm a new scum read! Very interesting.

I'm wary of these "hmmm, very interesting"-posts. Implying scumminess without saying it directly. Inviting everyone to question a certain behaviour while avoid responsibility. Not a good colour on you.

#93: "Seems like votes are flying high anyways. Keep it up sports!" gives me the impression that he wants to hang back and let other people do the work for him.
#117: "Nope, didn't have any questions really." was kind of lame, but the questions he asked at the end of the post seemed reasonable. Hence "decent" but not "good".
#176/7: Chain-sheeping and noting a lot of agreement, then not following up on it.
I don't really have much but a null/very weak scum. He's been too uninvolved for me to get much.

I think I've already said something about this. I don't intend to make up stuff if I don't have any. The toughts of agreement that makes me uneasy is what my ESP is picking up, take it or leave it, I'll have it in the back of my mind. I've been uninvolved, yes, I'm here now, hai.

[/quote]I think I can just iterate through his ISOs:

1. "Wagon time!" Didn't like it initially but it's just like any other RVS reason.
2. Made logical points.
3. Mostly found this to be null. Nothing in there that reads either way.
4. Calls out reasonless reads, gives a pair of townish reads and a pair of bad posts.
5. Parts 1 and 3 were kinda meh; part 2 was not bad.
6. I originally thought this was a null post, but your 227 made me realize otherwise - while Daemon did post about being suspicious of SB in 211, he didn't say it was a "new scumread"; it could have been one he held previously and didn't bring it out until then.

Good on scott for making logical points, but both scum and town can do this. I don't see much noteworthy townish in Scotts posts. If your reasoning for thinking "good stuff" includes that he's made logical points and has "not bad" parts and a lot of null, I think that's questionable at best.

I'm leaning town for

daemon

, because I see a naive openness in his posts. Reads townish to me.

Varsoon

is funny, haha. Hapa notes that his blatant offer to sheep is towny. I find it a null tell, it would be a good scum strategy.

I think so far I have a hard time making independent reads, as I find Hapa has a great influence on the game. This is over all a good thing as he gets good information, if he is indeed town, but not exclusively a good thing as both scum and town might fade to the background because of it. Anyway, I'll drink some anti-lurking juice and slap myself into being more active.

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@ Dyslexicon Can you tell me which "Hmm, very interesting posts? Also I feel like he has been doing that a bit throughout the game if not openly but subtle.

It was the one you quoted that made me suspicious. The reason why I said post

s

was because I've become wary of these kind of formulation in general.

Oh, that's my error. I though scott's 215 was directed at Dyslexicon b/c of how it was quoted. DERP. ~ignore me~

I was about to correct you, but you have autocorrect. Jumpy move though, especially considered your post 231. Your initial translation of my vote was not correct either. I don't see it readily fit with your conservative voting, but I must admit I do love a unique style.

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Dyslexion - hasn't posted since Saturday but has managed 11 posts between yesterday and today (if you are town, diaf)
/rant

-J

You're so right! I'm not giving this game the love it deserves at all!

Basically I'm seeing this probably heading to a NC lynch, which is perfectly fine with me, because he is scummy. Or rather was, cause most of the scummy stuff was more in the very beginning of the game, and now he is kind of gone.

Scott - It's not only that he makes short comments and not following up, it's that it seems insinuating, and thus like he hopes someone else will follow up. Doesn't look good at all.

Don't be hating on Varsoon, he's cute whatever alignment he might be. I'd guess town, mostly because there's more town, lol.

Holy shit.
VOTE: Varsoon
I'm sorry I have 0 patience for this.

Um, are you not the guy who is "conservative" with his vote?

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I love you Dyslexicon. Thank you for making me look at this guy again.

ac1983fan

is scum. No doubt about it.

I love you too, my dove. *blush*

I totally agree ac19 looks like scum, especially in light of his meta. He has seemed dodgy to me the whole game. His self proclaimed "conservativeness" does not add up to his play, and him stating being wary of me, but do nothing but a totally fail-jump on one of my posts. This is good enough for a vote from me, and then we don't have to worry about NC being lynched (although he might not be town either).

VOTE: ac1983fan

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I don't do read lists, I think they're scummy and anti-town. Not that they're always scummy, but it won't be of any benefit to you if I make one.

I am willing to poop out a few reads though. I'll need some more time to think.

Oh, that's my error. I though scott's 215 was directed at Dyslexicon b/c of how it was quoted. DERP. ~ignore me~

I was about to correct you, but you have autocorrect. Jumpy move though, especially considered your post 231. Your initial translation of my vote was not correct either. I don't see it readily fit with your conservative voting, but I must admit I do love a unique style.

Could someone explain to me what dyslexicon was referring to here?

I can! He was at me for only responding to things directed at me, which I really wasn't. I found that funny, cause he actually was in his last post. The irony was captivating.

Hey dys, what do you think of Toomai?

I thought he was really dodgy in the beginning. But something about the way he said he screwed up at some point looked genuine and eased my suspicion. Lately he's dropping by and droppinge votes, trying to please town or something? Out of you popular folks, you, Scott and Toomai, he is the one I'm least suspicious of as for now. But I must admit I've been paying more attention to you and Scott, but then, there is a reason for that.

"In post 429, hapahauli"]
Futhermore, his [ac19] play heavily implies that NC is town.

That is why you lynch acfan today.[/quote]

Does it? How?

You sure want him hanged! I'm with you.

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...
Does it? How?

You sure want him hanged! I'm with you.

It's somewhat associative. Basically if ac1983fan is scum, his actions towards NC heavily imply that NC is town.

I talked about it here a bit:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p4956013

Basically, he was earlier in the game skeptical of the quickness of the NC wagon, and then completely forgets about his rationale and is completely OK with it right now. He's soft-pushing the NC wagon while sitting on Varsoon.

I think this might as well be ac19 wanting to be a good townie and be suspicious about who almost everyone else is suspicious about, whitout having to vote. I think it's likely he thought NC would be lynched, and then could point to everywhere he agreed that it was a good lynch the next day. This was before the attention was on ac19, he probably thought he was safe. This I could very well see happening if both ac19 and NC is scum, which I'm actually inclined to believe at this point. I don't think ac19 being scum clears NC in any way. I'd actually be willing to lynch either at this point.

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I don't like the idea of having ac19 around with this heavy suspicion. It feels like "saving the problem for later" which isn't really solving anything. If he is town, I'd want to know it now, and not have the doubts at some more critical point later. And given the super fast way the wagon developed it could give us some valuble information in the case he actually is town. And if he is scum, voila! As for the claim, a 1-shot doctor is next to vanilla as far as I'm concerned. That being said I don't have a problem changing my vote to NC if it's needed. Will check in soon.

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Dys, Could you explain why Toomai saying he screwed up informs your read of him?

It was this post.
Didn't seem like a scum defense. I think scum would be more stressed and argue point by point, trying find flaws in the logic, and generally be more defensive. It's not like he's on my town list, but I suspect you an ac19 more.

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Dyslexicon

just really hasn't done... anything. And this read isn't so much that he's done something blatantly scummy, but there's also nothing that he's done that would suggest he's town. To have no reason to think someone's town (game actions, filter, votes, or otherwise) is strange at this stage of the game. Likely scum blending in here. I'll do an elaborate ISO if I'm alive tomorrow.

What happened to "I love you"? Are we breaking up?

Anyway, I don't really get why NC has been prioritized over ac19. But I guess we'll see NC flip, but now he actually seems more town. His leads on Jake are something to work on for next day. And I don't remember who made this point first, but NC's wagon hasn't had much resistance, in spite of being slow. ac19's did, in spite of being really fast. My top suspect is still ac19, and if NC flips town Jake will be as well.

Oh, and I can hammer NC if needed.

(And I know you guys don't like excuses, but I really wish I had more time to invest in this game lately. So please accept my apologies for that, I hope to do better from here on.)

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We are breaking up unfortunately =/

Unless you start acting super active and townie, and then we will make us some townie-babies.

But how long will you be in the thread? Hammering in about ~1-2 hours is ideal I think.

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We are breaking up unfortunately =/

Unless you start acting super active and townie, and then we will make us some townie-babies.

But how long will you be in the thread? Hammering in about ~1-2 hours is ideal I think.

The first one I was just lost for words because of my broken heart.

I am acting town. Hopefully more devoted next phase.

I'll be around for an hour more, so I'll hammer.

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I R here.

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I R here.

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Yeah, we have some 12-14 hours I hear? (Please confirm this) In which case I need to sleep first, considering it's 5am here.
Anyway, I'm up for lynching ac19, as previously stated, the suspicion against him won't go away tomorrow anyway. I'm also good with Scott, though a bit more unsure. He is lurkish (if I have the nerve to call someone that) and does scummy one-liner insinuations. The option of Cheery intrigues me, but I'll have to do some more rereading to be confident with that, and that'll be after some hours of sleep.

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Oh, oops guess he didn't, sorry. Still, my point stands

Not really.

I really want to mod a game sometime where it's just 13 town and every night 'scum' shoots one of the thirteen. The game would end when town discovers that no one is scum.

Yis! Heheheh

I guess I'll just hang around and hammer close to the deadline. The lynch is good regardless.

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I like the excitement. Bye NC

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VOTE: NC

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I may be wrong but I was curious about the Toomai wagon I think I am oblivious to why vote him? I just need to know what is up with him >.<

I think the main beef people have with me is the conception that I votehop and therefore don't care who gets lynched as long as it's not me. If that's what people want to think then whatever.

If you are town you should care at least a bit about what people think as you wouldn't want a mislynch to happen. *wiggles finger*

VOTE: ac1983fan

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This is enjoyable reading. Finally got around to lynch ac19. And I kind of loled at Hapa when he didn't get the hint. Watching from my lurker hut I'm quite convinced that we are on the right track. Would there be one more baddie on the loose after CP (just going to assume he is scum given the obvious scumslip)? I'll read up on the suspicion around Toomai earlier in the game, as he is the one standing out to me as the most likely scummate. Peace and love <3

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The second night is perfectly ordinary. No one wakes up dead.

Vote Count 3.0

Not voting (GoodCopBadCop, Hapahauli, Dyslexicon, Cheery Pie, Jake from Rainbowdash, hp[leaves], Varsoon, Scott Brosius, Daemon385, Toomai)

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Day Three ends in (expired on 2013-06-11 17:00:00)

Vote: Dyslexicon

Feel like poking in this direction to start. Basically I have this gut feeling that he bussed ac1983fan in addition to the laissez-faire attitude about other goings-on. If the Kings/Sharks game doesn't go too long I'll see if I can put in some more effort.

How does one wake up dead in the first place?

Toomai, that would be some hard core bussing. Or is this because I noted my suspicion against you before last night?

Also, agree with CP or HP, anything with P, except maybe hapa.

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Regardless, I'm really nervous of claims that are given in regards to scum-flips.

considering what happened to you, I totally understand where you are coming from.

but you have to look at the context of how we claimed. we tried to avoid claiming, we just pushed really really hard. when people started talking about ac being town because his claim change, that is when I had to say something.

it's that kind of behavior that really doesn't make sense if I was scum with AC, going through that much work for a bus while possible form your pov, it's a very elaborate bus. And as Hap said, if we are still alive before we get to MYLO we can discuss this again.

-J

p.edit - have to read in in detail, but I can't imagine anything you have typed would have me vote scott over HP.

I don't town read Scott at all, but I have him higher than you simply because of your tapdance around AC's lynch yesterday. :shrug:

my order would be HP/CP & Dyslx (about even), you. Scott probably 4th I guess

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^Sorry, really tired. I meant to say that this makes sense, and eases my mind about you.

What is up with HP? =/

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Dashie actually thinks scum/SK hp has inadvertently caught scum/SK SB

Mass claim is happening today. So toomai goes next and popcorns.

^This is very unlikely, given the lack of dead people.

Hp's claim makes me want to cry, I didn't know such roles existed. It's quite elaborate for a bluff, which makes me want to believe him.

Do you guys want me to claim, or should CP do it first?

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Jake, HP already kind of explained it. Apparently doctors have knifes.

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Yup, plus Scotts sloppy insinuations D1. And besides being quite naive in the way he claimed, HP's claim feels too elaborate for scum.

VOTE: Scott

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How is a claim not possible? O.o

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How is a claim not possible? O.o

Rainbow reviews these setups, so perhaps "balance-wise" it might not be possible. However on the surface, I don't see any reason why that would be the case. Hence me wanting to hear from Rainbow.

Thanks. If it's a fake claim hp should get a diploma.

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How is a claim not possible? O.o

Can you find me a description of knifesmith role?

No.

I can't find one anywhere (granted I'm on my phone)

Ok.

A role that in hp's words finds a doctor? Why would this role make sense?

An investigative role that would find scum/doctor. Don't see any reason why it won't make sense. Hp already said that scum seems to kill with knives, so it would make sense.

A "new" role which this would be, would have to be a singular role and not grouped with other roles.

Why would it have to be a singular role? Is that a rule on the site or something?

Plus I think hp said earlier his role investigates for SKs, that already has a name. It's called SK cop or FBI agent.

I can't find where hp says this. I can't see any reason this should be impossible, expect if it messes up the balance. Also, I can't see scum making up weird roles that elaborate, and still have logic you can follow.

I'll let dashie post her thoughts as they may differ from mine.

Bolded.
This pretty much explains the role:

post_id=4992632 time=1369861157 user_id=10128]Well, I'm a one shot knifesmith. I can check if someone has a knife or not. Doctors have knives. Mafia seems to kill with knives. So since my ability wasn't named "Cop", I assumed both of those roles to be in the game.

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This is the only thing I can find - http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=16177

And it's a role that has never ACTUALLY been used up to that point.

As to why would scum completely fabricate a role?

Why not? If people exist that believe scum wont create fake roles, scum have all the motivation to create such a role.

So we have why, and why not. I believe it's much less likely that scum would make up a role, especially when it's 1-shot in a Joat. I don't see why they'd go through the trouble. I follow his logic. The way it was presented was quite messy, and I didn't follow at all first, but when he explained it in more detail it made sense. So it would have to be a really well planned maneuver if it was false. Most likely true imo.

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I think Scott is probably scum.
Both CP and Jakedash could also be on the team. I just realized Jakedash's claim is really convenient, and ac19 wouldn't have lasted long anyway.

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I think Scott is probably scum.
Both CP and Jakedash could also be on the team. I just realized Jakedash's claim is really convenient, and ac19 wouldn't have lasted long anyway.

Should probably say CP

or

Jakedash

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@Dyslx - Actually if you read some of my D1 posts, I breadcrumbed pretty hard we would be tracking acfan almost immediately after he claimed. Go read the last paragraph of 427.

That helps, but it's still convenient if you knew acfan was scum.

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post_id=4993405 time=1369877306 user_id=10128]

You essentially had a one shot BP bodyguard and decided not to use it on the claimed PR

the doctor would protect you anyway. why risk losing my advantage?

Are you talking about different PR's?
There would be no point in protecting Jakedash, as he claimed 1-shot and used his shot.
Protecting acfan? Scum wouldn't kill him anyway if he was town. And the chances he was town were pretty low.

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@Dyslx - We tracked him. He targeted the dead player. Makes it pretty clearcut he is scum in that case. When he claimed targeting hap it just confirmed it beyond a doubt.

If you are scum, you would already know that he was, so of course you could say you tracked him. He wasn't going to last anyway, so using him to "confirm" your townness would be great. Point being, your claim doesn't confirm you as town in any way.

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Dylexicon. Paranoia is fine, and it is

possible

that Jake/Rainbow did some crazy fake-claim thing as scum. But do you honestly find that it is a likely possibility?

It wouldn't be that crazy really, it's pretty straight forward. It's a possibility to consider, at least. Personally I think it's likely.

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Dylexicon. Paranoia is fine, and it is

possible

that Jake/Rainbow did some crazy fake-claim thing as scum. But do you honestly find that it is a likely possibility?

It wouldn't be that crazy really, it's pretty straight forward. It's a possibility to consider, at least. Personally I think it's likely.

Ok, and why is it likely? You can't make a statement and not back it up.

But I want too!
After reading through Jakedash's iso, I found they were against lynching acfan because of the claim. But when hp claimed it didn't seem like they were backing off. Also I find they seemed to argue points with hp over and over again, but it could be they are just confused with the claim. I also remember NC was suspicious of them. Not my lynch option, but I won't go with confirmed town either.

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Dyslexicon, what do you make of CP's claim?

If hp's claim is true, I think it's legit. Hp clearly suggests that there is a doctor because of the knifesmith part, so falseclaiming doctor wouldn't be very safe.

you don't seem the difference between a 1 shot doc and a 4 shot joat with one of the shots a role that has never been used on mafiascum?

I don't seem it! Typos <3

Actually acfan's claim was so weak in power that it shouldn't have prevented a lynch on him to happen, as I also expressed on D1. Hp's claim has stronger powers, and is pretty believable in the way it was presented.

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Dyslexicon, what do you make of CP's claim?

If hp's claim is true, I think it's legit. Hp clearly suggests that there is a doctor because of the knifesmith part, so falseclaiming doctor wouldn't be very safe.

Not really. Doctor and scum give back the same results to the "knifesmith."

Yeah, but hp's reasoning, which I find sound

if

the claim is true, is that there would be no point in having a knifesmith as opposed to just a cop if there weren't any doctors in the game. Therefore it will likely be a CC if it is false. Although I do see the point about it being safer for the reason of turning up as a "knifeholder" (or whatever) if investigated. So both unsafe and safe. Yay. Definitely attract attention though.

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Oh also, I'm a VT. Forgot to claim.

Dyslexicon and GBGC - you might as well claim as well. If there's a 5th claimed blue between the two of you, we might need to ask more questions about these claims.

I've got nothing to flash, Vanilla Townie.

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So uh how do we actually know that a Doctor would show up as "has a knife" to a Knifesmith? To me that seems a bit of a stretch flavour-wise.

This is how I currently feel about the contentious claims:

• Chance JOAT is true:
  35%
  (seems too unlikely to be faked)
• Chance Doctor is true:
  40%
  (easier to claim, choices make more sense than JOAT's, harder to explain NK survival)
• Chance both are true:
  25%

It was hp that said this. The way it is really far out is why I'm inclined to believe it. So you leave no room for both claim being false?

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If SB has no actions to use he wouldn't know whether he has been roleblocked or not. There being no kill doesn't have to be due to a roleblock. If hp is 3rd party, I'd rather want to lynch SB.

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If SB has no actions to use he wouldn't know whether he has been roleblocked or not. There being no kill doesn't have to be due to a roleblock. If hp is 3rd party, I'd rather want to lynch SB.

In other words, he wouldn't know whether hp is lying about the block.

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Obviously I have no idea if he actually roleblocked me. But he's making assumptions he wouldn't be making if his role was true. If he knows there is 99% chance there is a doctor (due to this "knifesmith" role), he would not be immediately assuming that he stopped a NK just because of a roleblock.

True. But why did you say this then:

However, when I'm being accused of being roleblocked when I have no powers, I am 100% sure hp is lying.

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^Yeah, good point. I might switch votes because of that. Both SB and hp are good lynches imo, though.

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Can someone explain why CP and Jakedash is Conf.town? I agree there is very little chance of scum among them though.

I've had a towny read on Daemon throughout the game. But it's more due to having similar thoughts, so I usually follow his logic easily, and probably not the best reasoning for having him as town. Will ISO when I have the time.

Scum is most likely between Toomai and Scott, leaning Toomai for me. The lazy finger pointing reminds me of acfan, and the self vote is unproductive *hands kleenex*. The biggest thing is the wagon hopping, especially jumping off the acfan wagon. Meh.

We also have Antagon (hi). Who is just null to me atm. Varsoon was fun, but never really convinced me, despite saying he was town all the time.

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VOTE: Daemon

*burp*

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If daemon was a town read and Toomai wasn't. Why vote daem

As I said my read on him was mostly me agreeing with his waffle, kind of felt we were in the same spot this game. Your post #1198 made me viden my perspective some more, via your track record (hahah).

I must admit I haven't been as invested as I should in this game, and I'm really sorry. Although hapa did a great job being supertown it kind of made me lazy, I think. I've seen some worry about me, and it seems like it's mostly due to lack of posting/commitment (?). I'll just mention again that I was tracked, although I don't know if it's custom to let players do multiple actions, I'm not used to that were I've played before. I also was the first one to get some real attention to acfan, and really wanted him gone since. Apart from that I guess I haven't done much.

I don't think daemon is being as nonchalant about the possibility of being lynched as Toomai is, constantly saying it's a bad idea. Also Toomai's thinking about Scott in #1243 seems town. If they both are town we do have a slight problem. I'd much prefer Daemon over Toomai today though. I'd rather not speculate too much on the kill last night, but it leaves some interesting possibilities, mostly beneficial to town, although I miss hapa, my love <3

Think I'm gonna ISO GCBC and possibly CP when I make myself another cup of coffee.

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@Dys Did you just list all the reasons other people have called you town?

Why did you not vote ac until after hapa's case if that first attention was really wanting him gone?

I think I did, but it's not a long list. I see us as quite close to a win by process of elimination, so hopefully that can contribute.

Well, I was the first to bring attention to him, and Hapa quickly brought it to life in a way I wouldn't be able to. I honestly think it was more of a confidence thing as this is my first "real game" on the site. But I was in on the thought with acfan by #253. Then I was gone for a long time, but he was the one i picked up when I came back. And hapa bothered making a real case with the lead, and since then there wasn't much doubt in my mind that he was scum. So I stuck to my vote until I needed to hammer NC.

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The attitude with acfan is sticking out. You really pushed NC's lynch and would avoid acfan's for bad reasons imo.

You fucking retards, unvote him ffs. His response to your case was alright. Just because he claimed doc doesn't make him scum.

I'd rather lynch Toomai but we don't have time. NC dies today or there will be a NL.

I can't believe this shit. The pros of keeping him alive outweigh the cons.

- Scum-acfan could no-kill to make himself look better, giving us a free lynch.
- Town-acfan could get killed at night and we don't have to worry about him.
- etc

Lynching him now would be a 50:50.

But then:

I woulda lynched ac1983fan yesterday, just sayin

-Badcop

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Which of my votes are you even referring to?
I was against the Cage waggon from what I can remember. I was a VERY early participant of BOTH scum waggons.

- GC

Lol, you were against lynching NC?
Also, you put acfan on L-1, not early participant.

@acfan

- Use your ability tonight.
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VOTE: Cage
This is a good lynch. Also, we need lynch RIGT NOW. The deadline is in a few hours.

change "good" to "best".

- GC (both posts)

Nah I'm good w/ lynching Nic

-bc

VOTE: GCBC

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And if you are talking about the first wagon that didn't get acfan lynched you were number 4 to vote, and you switched to Toomai after Varsoon made the 5th.

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Your #530 is from 3 days before the new deadline. Also the quote you're referring to is from when acfan and NC were tied in votes, so NC was no nearer a lynch than acfan. His claim was next to VT.

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GCBC: Can you give us a bit more structured reasons why JFR is scum? I have no problem following that lead if you do in fact flip town, but right now it seems more emotional than rational.

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GCBC: Can you give us a bit more structured reasons why JFR is scum? I have no problem following that lead if you do in fact flip town, but right now it seems more emotional than rational.

I'm not sure yet. Need to know if mafia traitor is even balanced for this.

Ok, I hope you can if you are town.

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-_-

Let's get moving.

VOTE: Daemon

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So.... wow.

It worked I think. The whole "I will 100%

kill

Toom"...

Murderer!

I have a hangover and can't brain right now. But it sounds good.

VOTE: GCBC

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Murderer because Jake said "I will 100% Kill Toom..." while I think he meant track. It was a joke, and not directed to you.

I don't really care to much anymore. You can lynch me too if you want to.
But GCBG caught acfan d1? Heheheheh. No.

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Who did you track "yesterday" Jake?

I'd rather scum give up too. I have the nagging feeling that JFR is playing us all. In which case I guess he deserves it.

VOTE: Scott