MICRO 172: DRAGON BALL Z [TOWN WIN]

[Hamlet]

/confirm
o/ Everyone!

[Hamlet]

Oh, we will be signing our posts btw.
Last game we got into didn't have a very good take on us NOT signing, though I'm sure people here will be able to tell who's posting when.

-FuzzyHead

[Hamlet]

Also, I have no idea where my other head is.
He's wandering around somewhere, and I really don't even know if he knows about this game yet, but he will be here eventually.

P-Edit: It wasn't much of a "decision."

[Hamlet]

Isn't it though?
I give Belisarius credit for that one.

[Hamlet]

Because they both

like

love

hamlet

FTFY

[Hamlet]

*sigh*

No activities in the pregames. :/

So...anyone like Dragon Ball Z?

[Hamlet]

Interesting. What made you join the game?

[Hamlet]

I actually joined by accident. :S

[Hamlet]

Well, Belisarius said he wanted to do another hydra game, so I logged on, /inned, and was immediately put in this game.
Like, literally 5 minutes later. :S

[Hamlet]

I still find it funny that Belisarius knows nothing of this right now.

[Hamlet]

I don't.

--Bel

[Hamlet]

Wow, missed an entire page of posts, that was in reaction to mine other head's question about DBZ, which I know literally nothing about.

No RVS vote from me until the game is confirmed started.

[Hamlet]

I blame myself for that one, Bel.


Erm. So. Game start, yes or no? Mod?

[Hamlet]

VOTE: thenewearth

For fucking up

my

our Galactic Multiple-Posting Championship.

I was hoping for 10 posts in a row between myself & Fuzzy

--B

[Hamlet]

Nope.

[Hamlet]

Hamlet, you should soliloquize some more.

That would antagonise PimHel, and I haven't decided if I want to do that or not yet.

--B

[Hamlet]

even if you are scum, your partner could hammer and end the day.

And then we'd lynch the hammerer for quickhammering and win the game. Not seeing a downside here.

I don't get why so many people are so afraid of L-1 when quickhammering is suicidal with mafiascum's site meta.

[Hamlet]

Pope: you've been pretty adamant about this whole "slip" ordeal, and now it looks as if you're only trying to put more suspicion on Ghostlin after the idea had been dismissed.
It's almost as if you want him lynched regardless of what he does.

@Ghostlin: Speculation of the setup isn't going to get us anywhere, and as far as the "quick hammering" thing goes, Bel is right. That's damn near suicidal to do as scum.

Pope, if you will, please summarize why you think Ghostlin is scum
Ghostlin, please explain why your vote on Pope isn't OMGUS.

--Fuzz

[Hamlet]

What are your reads, Fuzz/Bel?
Or should I just say Hamlet

Actually, I want EVERYONE'S reads. They are beneficial to the game at this stage. If you don't at least give one read that is definitely scummy.

At this point, Pope/Ghostlin looks rather town v. town to me.

I haven't got even enough of a gut feel to call anyone scum yet, but I also don't want to be sitting on an RVS vote this late, so

UNVOTE:

I usually only vote scumreads I'm reasonably confident in, which makes my votes pretty sticky. Fuzzy might pressure vote from this slot, though

--Bel

[Hamlet]

I'm really not seeing the problem with being suspicious of one player and voting another; I think it's called "not tunnelling."

@DP: What specifically is it that's bad about it? Early D1 it's not reasonable to expect an open and shut case, voting for someone based on very little is pretty usual.

--B

[Hamlet]

Pimhel- I'm here.
I often forget about this account.
Bacde, I'm actually reading pope as more town than scum.
Ghostlin, I'm not too sure about. It seems as if some posts are townish and some are scumish. I'll discuss him with Bel a bit and perhaps he has a better idea on him than I do.
I'm still waiting on Omen's post.
Bacde, how do you forget your vote?

--Fuzzy

P-edit: Oh, there it is. I'll read that now.

[Hamlet]

Alright, Omen's, you stated the two people you found to be most scummy.
Now, if you can definitely see someone as scum, why wouldn't you vote for them?

--Fuzzy

[Hamlet]

I'm seeing dissonance when it comes to Fuzzy and Bel's posts. Bel asks me whats wrong with being suspicious but when Fuzzy asks sword, "if he finds people scummy, why dont you vote for them?" So correct me if I'm wrong there.

Hydra dissonance is pretty normal. You're not wrong. However...what precisely are you driving at?

-B

[Hamlet]

Hamlet, never played with Hydras before, so I was wondering why was there an internal shaft or something

We've been discussing our reads in our QT so as to avoid as much dissonance in-game as possible; however, sometimes it happens anyway.

I'm gonna read through TIP's ISO in a little bit.

--Fuzzy

[Hamlet]

There's no reason to flip-flop on wagons if chk included a vengeful townie and only scum would be afraid of it.

What? A bad call from a venge could wipe out a town PR. Everyone should be concerned about that.

-B

[Hamlet]

Wow. A lot to catch up on.
Alright, in regards to the Vengeful Townie comment, having played as a VengT, I know the possibility of actually fucking that one up.
I'll get back to this shortly.

[Hamlet]

Okay, caught up for the most part.
Majiffy, nice to be playing with you again. Ditto on the reads thing. I've read you as scum since my first game on here. Probably means you're town though.

Pope, give me one good reason why I shouldn't vote for you right now, because you're not exactly the towniest person here.

Also, jiffy, does Nacho know this is a thing yet?

[Hamlet]

If you're null, interact with me so I can read you.

I'll nae do yer wirk fer ye, lad.

Omae no chikara wo misete morau.

-B

[Hamlet]

Beli doesn't get townreads when he's lazy as fuck

I'm always lazy as fuck, and I usually have no trouble townhunting.

-B

[Hamlet]

By the way, anyone else seeing the Amished tell in the way both heads reacted to DrP?

[Hamlet]

No scum uses the same technique twice in a row

I do, I just make it

look

different.

-B

[Hamlet]

The cogdis between the two heads is something i'm not too sure about. I'm actually reading Nacho's head as scum and the Majiffy head as town, because Majiffy is always this way, whereas I don't recall Nacho playing like this.

Bacde raises a good point, though.

[Hamlet]

-Fuzz

[Hamlet]

I have an important announcement to make

Then make it, this is a forum, not f2f. We'll see it the next time we're online.

-B

[Hamlet]

I'm not 100% sure Fuzzy has given permission, but it comes down to the fact that I think Ghostlin v. Pope is TvT and I don't trust Vegito

at all

VOTE: Vegito

L-1

-B

[Hamlet]

I'm just saying it's better than a TNE lynch. I mean, who else would we lynch?

Uh, you?

Don't get too confident, I'm townreading you, but Fuzzy isn't, and I'll acquiesce to a deadline lynch if needed.

Half a hydra townreading you isn't as useful as a whole slot

[Hamlet]

Whoops, forgot to sign that post. For those who areb't sure, my last post was made by Jesus Christ

[Hamlet]

I'm not 100% sure Fuzzy has given permission, but it comes down to the fact that I think Ghostlin v. Pope is TvT and I don't trust Vegito

at all

VOTE: Vegito

L-1

-B

I never trust Majiffy. So far, I think Nacho's play looks town. I have a minor niggle that has gotten in the way of "you have my axe" level sheeping of Nacho's read, but hopefully more convo with Nacho will sort that.

I'm scumreading Nacho--so if you're going to sheep me, do so based on Nacho's play

Basically, I think TownCho would start with who NOT to lynch; last time I believed him because he pushed a lynch, he was bussing his scumbuddy

[Hamlet]

So by that logic you should have no problem voting TNE, then?

Yes, I do have a problem with voting alongside my top scumread .

Ok...went back to read Nacho's first few posts and I found this.

Town
{PimHel, Bacde, fferylt, TheIrishPope}

Undefined
{TNE, Hamlet, Omen, TNE}

What would Town Nacho be doing differently?

Worrying more about the nulls, of course.

Really, TownCho would be trying to kill

me

[Hamlet]

So by that logic you should have no problem voting TNE, then?

Yes, I do have a problem with voting alongside my top scumread .

Doesn't follow. Your argument earlier is that the only time you've seen ScumNacho he was bussing his partner. Ergo if you think this is ScumNacho, it follows that he'd be bussing in his original push on TNE.

Why do you have a problem with voting scum? Is your read not as solid as you're pretending it is?

Really, TownCho would be trying to kill

me

Hate to break hard news to you, bucko...

I'm not purely equating this game to the Chosen Mafua game.. it's just one reason
.the fact that my vote is L-1 is uh...whose fault is that?

[Hamlet]

Read moar and so shalt thou see the reasons.

Dost thou truly need me to spell it out for thee? So be it.

Of elements, sir, a Doctor of physic did once explain
that all the Earth is province elemental
sure and steady as the stone-wall foursome
a-holding up our own roof, tied together
By power that we spake on, our traffic
unmarr'd by thy rough and idle chatter.
And the complexion of the element
In favour's like the force that ties the room.
O, a muse of fire the first element,
Airy breath the second; though this wind
May well be yours for all you flap your tongue,
O ill-dispersing wind of misery!
Thou hast no wings, and, liable to plunge,
Fish'd for facts, yet fish you cannot be;
So water, elemental third, you're not,
How much salt water thrown away in waste.
Of earth, no woman left on earth will have thee,
So walk the plains like to a lonely dragon;
I care not.

[Hamlet]

Once again forgot to sign that post, but anyone who thinks that was Fuzzy should seek qualified psychological assistance as rapidly as possible

-B

[Hamlet]

@361: I didn't say Jiffy was town because I agreed with him, I said he was town because I thought he was scum. I'm currently trusting Beli's read on him, as I can never truly read Jiffy.
Since I began reading what Pope was saying, and finding it scummy.

@478: Did I? I don't recall. What game was that?

[Hamlet]

Canadian politeness

Literally lol.

I take it you don't often interact with Canadians who are still alive.

[Hamlet]

i'm kinda bugged by nacho's vouching for that slot

He's just running psych, and it's not working.

[Hamlet]

So uh..yeah..

Hey guys..