Mini 1451: A Memory of Light (Game Over)

Empking · Post Post #1506 (isolation #0) » Thu Jul 04, 2013 9:52 pm

Vote: Mara

I agree with Nero, and I also think it'd make sense if there was a permanent scum presence in the dream QT (which would obviously be Mara)

Empking · Post Post #1520 (isolation #1) » Fri Jul 05, 2013 9:48 am

In post 1513, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:Emp, how much of the game have you actually read?

Not all of it, yet. I've read the last few pages first but I haven't finished the first lot.

Empking · Post Post #1521 (isolation #2) » Fri Jul 05, 2013 12:38 pm

In post 1520, Empking wrote:
In post 1513, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:Emp, how much of the game have you actually read?
Not all of it, yet. I've read the last few pages first but I haven't finished the first lot.

Finished. Now I'm more certain that ever how much of a travesty voting Demon for poor playstyle is rather than voting Mara, which a quick skim of Amrun's posts would tell you is the right lynch.

Empking · Post Post #1524 (isolation #3) » Fri Jul 05, 2013 1:30 pm

I don't know the flavour, but aren't all the Aes Saedari women so 'Green Brother', for example, would be very odd.

Empking · Post Post #1537 (isolation #4) » Sat Jul 06, 2013 7:39 am

To be fair, I'm pretty sure the whole scum team is on my wagon. (Although in my case scum-Mara didn't have much of a choice but to be the third scum on y wagon.)

Empking · Post Post #1539 (isolation #5) » Sat Jul 06, 2013 7:45 am

In post 1538, Nero Cain wrote:selk, GCBC and Mara?

My reads are more Mara, Selk and Iece? Am I missing something or why that can't be?

Empking · Post Post #1545 (isolation #6) » Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:32 am

In post 1542, Iecerint wrote:
In post 1523, Ms Marangal wrote:Red sister, Yellow sister, and Blue (me) sister
???

Aviendha (Ghostlin, who died N1) isn't a sister at all (she's an Aiel Wise One/Maiden of the Spear -- she's from a different culture that also channels), and Nynaeve (Mara's claim) is a Yellow sister, not a Blue one. Siuan Sanche (milkshake) and Moiraine (me) are both Blues, and Elayne is a Green. No players in this game have claimed a Red sister, though it's true that there are indeed Red sisters in the game. (Aes Sedai are called "sisters.")

Unvote

EmpKing, please verify or contradict this sisterliness from the QT.

Yes we were disguised as anonymous sisters in the QT.

Empking · Post Post #1558 (isolation #7) » Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:57 pm

In post 1555, Selkies wrote:Empking who did you block last night?

I didn't do anything last night. I believe in GB's claim; it supports what I believed yesterday. Obviously I don't think I'm scum; I think Selkie's quick change of vote yesterday didn't seem like what an ignorant townie would do.

Belis: Have you seen, seen used, the 'rule of three before'.

Empking · Post Post #1561 (isolation #8) » Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:54 am

In post 1560, Belisarius wrote:
In post 1558, Empking wrote:
In post 1555, Selkies wrote:Empking who did you block last night?
I didn't do anything last night. I believe in GB's claim; it supports what I believed yesterday. Obviously I don't think I'm scum; I think Selkie's quick change of vote yesterday didn't seem like what an ignorant townie would do.

Belis: Have you seen, seen used, the 'rule of three before'.
I haven't used it before, but I've had it correctly used against me. Lost D2 in a newbie game.

Link?

GC: I didn't think my power that I had left was best used last night. Seeing your good result suggests to me that I was right.

Empking · Post Post #1563 (isolation #9) » Thu Jul 11, 2013 6:19 am

Ugh, I misread my role PM. I thought all my powers were one-shot.

Empking · Post Post #1565 (isolation #10) » Thu Jul 11, 2013 9:52 am

In post 1564, Belisarius wrote:
In post 1561, Empking wrote:Link?
Here you go

I think this game: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=26051 proves that Mara was aware of the rule of three. I think the 'rule of three' is certainly something scum can avoid if they know that town expects it.

Empking · Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:09 pm

Vote: Iece

Empking · Post Post #1580 (isolation #12) » Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:04 am

I targeted Selkies with a roleblock.

Empking · Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:20 pm

In post 1581, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:
In post 1580, Empking wrote:I targeted Selkies with a roleblock.
Did you get anything from swords?

No.

Empking · Post Post #1590 (isolation #14) » Tue Jul 16, 2013 7:13 pm

In post 1589, Belisarius wrote:Emp's reaction to my rule of 3 post is equally scummy; coming from a town mindset, anything that narrows the lynch pool is good.

Not if it narrows it wrongly. (Which apparently it didn't.)

Why didn't Emp just gun for me right from the get-go? Because he was hoping to push for a mislynch of Selkies or GCBC. It's the only thing that makes sense.

Why wouldn't I try to 'mislynch' you.

Vote: No Lynch

- Even numbers.

Empking · Post Post #1592 (isolation #15) » Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:19 pm

In post 1591, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:No lynch is a bad idea since scum will just kill myself or swords. All it does is take it from two people debating which of you is scum to only one of us. We know it's one of you two {emp, beli} at this point. In fact, Emp's post looks like it's made just to attempt to gain towncred, since he says beli is scum but goes for the NL anyways. Swords, thoughts?

1. It's easier to manipulate one of two people than one of one.
2. If the pressure is on one of you then that person will give 100%, while if there's two of you you'll both have the other do most of the Orkney.
3. Any of the hundreds of reason why 3p lyol is superior to 4p that you can name through experience.

Empking · Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:35 pm

In post 1593, sword_of_omens wrote:I definitely need to go back and re-read..
right now if I had to choose, I think I'd probably be voting for Emp..
his roleblock of Selkies also seems to me like a safety claim, in case there were watching eyes...
but there are a few things I wanted to look at, first..

If I was scum I'd claim to have targeted Selkie's.
Infowar a Roleblocker who suspected Selkie's as I indicated yesterday (and everyday since I replaced in) then I would've targeted Selkie's and claimed the same. I know how it looks but if you look closer its the definition of a null tell.

Empking · Post Post #1596 (isolation #17) » Wed Jul 17, 2013 4:52 am

In post 1595, Belisarius wrote:
In post 1590, Empking wrote:Vote: No Lynch - Even numbers.
Seriously?

We had even numbers yesterday and you didn't bring this up.

The claim was obviously the major thing.

Don't forget it was
Iece's
flip that made GCBC conftown based on the fact we weren't endgamed yesterday or before.

I don't understand your meaning.

Empking · Post Post #1598 (isolation #18) » Wed Jul 17, 2013 5:56 am

OK, you're spouting balls here. Selkie's confirmed GB. GB didn't confirm Selkie's.

Empking · Post Post #1600 (isolation #19) » Wed Jul 17, 2013 7:53 am

In post 1599, Belisarius wrote:Not 100% confirmed, no, but it would make more
sense
for scumSelkies to go for the win instead of bussing.

Apart from that Iece was scummiest than GB and it was obviously one versus one.

Empking · Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:00 pm

In post 1603, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:
In post 1600, Empking wrote: Apart from that Iece was scummiest than GB and it was obviously one versus one.
While I work, explain what the hell this means, because it makes so sense.

In one v one, you versus Iece. Iece would be lynched because he was the scummiest.

I was hoping someone in town would read the thread before anyone voted again, but since it seems like that didn't happen.
Sword: I was hoping to use my one-shot three point redirection onto me, so I was killed making it an easier choice. Thus my advocation of No Lynch. Why would scum do that?

Empking · Post Post #1615 (isolation #21) » Thu Jul 18, 2013 7:08 am

It makes me think GB might be scum.

Empking · Post Post #1616 (isolation #22) » Thu Jul 18, 2013 7:09 am

With GB being a GF obviously.

Empking · Post Post #1619 (isolation #23) » Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:33 am

In post 1618, sword_of_omens wrote:why would GCBC have to be a GF?

Yeah, I misremembered Selkie's result.