Newbie 1381 Oakhaven is Overrun Game Over

mothrax · Post Post #9 (isolation #0) » Sun May 26, 2013 9:12 am

Vote Tybalt

a pox on both your houses! YOUR HOUSES!

mothrax · Post Post #13 (isolation #1) » Sun May 26, 2013 10:50 am

To explain, this part if the game is known as the RVS, which stand for random voting stage, some people find it useless, some not so much, but it generally helps get discussion started and so forth. I'll let the IC expand a little.

mothrax · Post Post #24 (isolation #2) » Sun May 26, 2013 4:09 pm

@luigi: why is replacing out suspicious?

@greywing: what about Mala's post was odd? What part of it was scummy?

I agree that grey's answer seemed slightly defensive but I want to see what else he has to say before jumping to any conclusions.

mothrax · Post Post #39 (isolation #3) » Mon May 27, 2013 9:10 am

The luigi/jmo is null.
I like uoyeluri.
Game needs more posts. I would like for grey to answer my questions.

mothrax · Post Post #60 (isolation #4) » Wed May 29, 2013 8:58 am

I'm not sure I agree with Jmo's anti-town read stance, but that's a playstyle thing that can be dropped.

Luigi is being overly defensive about the whole vote thing. Not sure I like grey passing it all off as "it was obviously a joke." It wasn't. That's why three players commented on it.

mothrax · Post Post #61 (isolation #5) » Wed May 29, 2013 9:00 am

@Grey: honey bee's opening post seems natural to me. Starting mdiscussion about a current topic, pressuring a player. Not being afraid to question an SE. The young one has potential.

mothrax · Post Post #68 (isolation #6) » Thu May 30, 2013 1:18 pm

Actually, the more I read the less I like greywing. His serious vote on mala comes because she "jumped on" luigi. I'm not a fan. He also claims that the vote was obviously a joke, when it obviously wasn't. Mala is prob town because of this, in fact, the fact that she was willing to question without throwing down a vote is rather indicative.

Vote: Greywind

mothrax · Post Post #83 (isolation #7) » Sat Jun 01, 2013 4:14 am

@mala: why call out luigi and not jmo? He's voting thane for the same reasons...

mothrax · Post Post #85 (isolation #8) » Sat Jun 01, 2013 6:42 am

And? Her post calls out the reasoning behind the vote.

mothrax · Post Post #117 (isolation #9) » Tue Jun 04, 2013 1:39 am

Not seeing the mala case... Who did you replace again?

mothrax · Post Post #120 (isolation #10) » Tue Jun 04, 2013 2:34 am

Not particularly no.

Grey is my top scumread ATM, but I need to reread the last couple of pages. I didn't like luigi and your case on mala seems reaching.

mothrax · Post Post #146 (isolation #11) » Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:29 am

Deadline is in 10ish days. All the vitecounts have a countdown tag in them, so they all reflect the actual deadline not the deadline at the time of that post.

As for scumreads other than Grey, I would be down with a Talah lynch today. I was super unimpressed with Luigi's reaction to the RVS stuff and Talah since replacing in has pulled some interesting vote shenanigans. Voted Mala, now calls her town, pulled the whole "quasi-RVS" grey vote, etc...

The rest are all null or town...

JMO is nullscum. I'm not really happy with the way he has been pressuring players, it all seems very forced and half hearted to me.

mothrax · Post Post #161 (isolation #12) » Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:48 am

I'm an easy lynch is never ever ever a good thing to say. Making excuses for poor play is a bad habit.

mothrax · Post Post #163 (isolation #13) » Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:01 am

I've been pretty straight forward about my scum reads. Grey an Talah are my top two. You're up there as well. I don't like how you have avoided a lot of the conflict in the game and the post using the whole first time IC as an excuse for your play is bad.

mothrax · Post Post #218 (isolation #14) » Tue Jun 11, 2013 2:33 pm

Responding to prod oops. Headed to bed. Will catch up tomorrow.

LOL that is twice now a player posted before I stated in game that I prodded them.... Rach

mothrax · Post Post #264 (isolation #15) » Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:20 am

alright....

anywho...

Im in the process of catching up...
Welcome Hyperion and Gen...

I'm male, just so ya know, guys... the avatar is left over from a modern family UPick I played in like... 2 years ago...

mothrax · Post Post #267 (isolation #16) » Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:27 am

I'm still happy with my reads. Honeybee, are you sure youre a newb?

@Talah: what benifit to town does posting things like the play, and other various, mostly unnecessary walls have?

@JMO: We all know what you think of that one slot who I cant remeber who is in it now... (GEN?) but who else could be scum... what are your other reads?

I feel like JMO has made a lot of excuses for his play without doing anything about it. He is tunneling and not really contributing and he is blaming activity and first time ICing... Lots of other people manage to IC just fine their first time while playing to their wincon... I can even dig up my old one if I must... but I would look to people like Nachomamma and Thor...

pedit! whoo...

mothrax · Post Post #273 (isolation #17) » Thu Jun 13, 2013 5:10 am

In post 255, jmo16mla wrote:VOTE: mala

Care to dance?

This vote is really really bad.

Vote: JMO

That's

l-1

mothrax · Post Post #281 (isolation #18) » Thu Jun 13, 2013 5:46 am

In post 274, jmo16mla wrote:Morthax is scum.
Trust me on this one

VOTE: morthax

How is my vote bad? You keep bringing up me using the ic excuse, I said it was difficult.

You're pushing non reasons that don't point me towards being scum and I'm not liking it.

At all.

Because you haven't once mentioned mala as possibly being scum, you didn't include any reasoning with your vote, and you haven't followed up with it at all.

It's funny to me that once multiple people accuse you of tunneling you switch your vote.

mothrax · Post Post #282 (isolation #19) » Thu Jun 13, 2013 5:49 am

Also, its pretty obvious you aren't really reading very carefully, since I stated fairly obviously that I'm a dude. And that you can't spell my name.

Nice OMGUS though. You go from not mentioning me as a scum spect to "Mothrax is defo scum guys" after I vote you.
Oh wait... You did that to Mala too... Well, the same concept at least.

mothrax · Post Post #287 (isolation #20) » Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:04 am

In post 267, mothrax wrote:I'm still happy with my reads. Honeybee, are you sure youre a newb?

@Talah: what benifit to town does posting things like the play, and other various, mostly unnecessary walls have?

@JMO: We all know what you think of that one slot who I cant remeber who is in it now... (GEN?) but who else could be scum... what are your other reads?

I feel like JMO has made a lot of excuses for his play without doing anything about it. He is tunneling and not really contributing and he is blaming activity
and first time ICing... Lots of other people manage to IC just fine their first time while playing to their wincon... I can even dig up my old one if I must... but I would look to people like Nachomamma and Thor...

pedit! whoo...

I boldes the parts that had nothing to do with you being an IC for you... There's more around here too...

mothrax · Post Post #288 (isolation #21) » Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:07 am

In post 146, mothrax wrote:Deadline is in 10ish days. All the vitecounts have a countdown tag in them, so they all reflect the actual deadline not the deadline at the time of that post.

As for scumreads other than Grey, I would be down with a Talah lynch today. I was super unimpressed with Luigi's reaction to the RVS stuff and Talah since replacing in has pulled some interesting vote shenanigans. Voted Mala, now calls her town, pulled the whole "quasi-RVS" grey vote, etc...

The rest are all null or town...

JMO is nullscum. I'm not really happy with the way he has been pressuring players, it all seems very forced and half hearted to
me.

Oh hey... This is defo about you being an IC...

(I'm sorry to hear about your father, hope everything is alright...)

mothrax · Post Post #311 (isolation #22) » Thu Jun 13, 2013 3:12 pm

In post 306, Greywing wrote:
In post 302, talah wrote:mothrax I think I bungled badly and could have had a claim by now, if that's what happened with the L-1 before. He wasn't reading. Sorry.
Am I reading this correctly and you believe Moth tried to fakeclaim L-1 in order to get an early claim from Jmo?

False. So many quick votes and unvotes flying around and I missed them. I looked at the last Votecount and reskimmed the few pages and thought it was l-1. I wasn't pushing for a claim and in fact never even said "JMO claims" I stated l-1 because its common curtesy.

And Grey, that would be nice if JMO had said his vote on mala was a gambit, but he didn't. It was a legit vote and it was scummy.

mothrax · Post Post #319 (isolation #23) » Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:40 pm

In post 312, Greywing wrote:
mothrax wrote:False. So many quick votes and unvotes flying around and I missed them. I looked at the last Votecount and reskimmed the few pages and thought it was l-1. I wasn't pushing for a claim and in fact never even said "JMO claims" I stated l-1 because its common curtesy.

And Grey, that would be nice if JMO had said his vote on mala was a gambit, but he didn't. It was a legit vote and it was scummy.
Fair enough. I didn't get that on my initial reading of it, hence why I asked the question of Talah.

Right, because you would have voted him if he announced that the vote was a gambit. Nice try.

since then he has said it was a pressure vote, even after I voted for him. I'm not buying your whole "it was obviously a gambit" spiel...

talah wrote:Not a bit. What PR could he possibly credibly claim? A PR needs more information, not less, to know what night action to take. So he claims VT and we move on.
Well, we have four potential PR types in the game, depending on which setup is chosen. You clearly have no idea of how claiming works. Regardless, I believe Moth's explanation, so I'm dropping this discussion.

Bold is mine

mothrax · Post Post #322 (isolation #24) » Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:53 pm

Grey barely posted in the 130 posts between those two posts. I would still be happy with a grey lynch but I know when I'm beating a dead horse. Should I park my vote on one player like you?

And I wasn't comparing you to them, I was simply pointing out that it can and has been done. And trying to be helpful to you. I'm sorry of it came across that way.

I've given plenty of reasons to vote you. Flail harder.

mothrax · Post Post #324 (isolation #25) » Thu Jun 13, 2013 5:20 pm

mothrax · Post Post #354 (isolation #26) » Fri Jun 14, 2013 7:24 am

@mala: what do you think of Jmo's case on me?

@hyperion: when you get back: what do you think about grey's defense of jmo?

mothrax · Post Post #362 (isolation #27) » Fri Jun 14, 2013 4:57 pm

In post 361, jmo16mla wrote:Town really needs to look at mothrax's lynch better. Scum know they are getting away with lynching a stronger player. Mala would likely be next.

I've had a town read on mala all game. You're grasping at straws. And really? Stronger player? Uh-huh.

mothrax · Post Post #414 (isolation #28) » Sun Jun 16, 2013 3:38 am

I would still be happy with the JMO lynch. The fact that he continues to boil the case on him to being a bad IC (I don't think he is) is really off putting. It's much more than that and its been stated several times.

mothrax · Post Post #416 (isolation #29) » Sun Jun 16, 2013 3:42 am

Ummmm... What?

mothrax · Post Post #477 (isolation #30) » Tue Jun 18, 2013 11:30 pm

How long do we have til deadline? RL kicked my ass this past week...

If a JMO lynch doesn't happen I'm not sure where to go but I will have my mind made up by deadline.

mothrax · Post Post #499 (isolation #31) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 3:01 am

@Talah: it wasn't whether or not the luigi post was serious or not it was that Grey automatically demanded that everyone in the game understood that it was a joke, which its obvious at the time that they didn't.

As for JMOs mala vote, I don't like that grey defended it so staunchly as a gambit before JMO said either way. In both of these assertions it's more the defense coming from grey than anything that rubbed me the wrong way. I still really didn't like JMO's mala vote, and as I still am not convinced it was a gambit because grey gave him an out with all the gambit talk.