my vote is pseudo serious
how can you respond to someone's hello, but vote them? scummy
i said it was pseudo serious because it's hard to have concrete evidence off of 1 postIn post 40, Ghostlin wrote:If it was only pseudo-serious, then there was a slight not serious element there. I won't say 'random', but you even downplayed the vote by saying it was only pseudo-serious, which is not something you usually do outside of RVS.In post 39, Saint wrote:"why participate as he kinda did in #8?"
how was i participating?
"why participate as he kinda did in #8?"how was i participating?
you're not meIn post 41, Lord Mhork wrote:Anyone got meta on Saint? 'cause I threw this exact hissy fit back to back as scum.
i found it on youtube when i watched the puppet palsIn post 42, fuzzybutternut wrote:In post 38, Saint wrote:hahaha i just stumbled on this. If I go out, it will be posting this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reop2bXiNgk
what in the actual fuck did I just watch..
anywho, yeah, Mhork, what do you mean?
honestly would have to read what AA has contributed - not pinging off of my radar. I will answer this in my next post. SD is a good vote FOR ME because I don't want to lieIn post 43, DeasVail wrote:Saint, why is SD a better vote than ArcAngel?
id like to answer thisIn post 23, DoctorPepper wrote:How can you hate RVS and simultaneously not agree with people who share the same idea?
blue... no greenIn post 49, SafetyDance wrote:Awesome, lets have RQS! Yayyyy!In post 37, Saint wrote:DOBBY'S SOCK.
master gave dobby a sock
dobby is fweeeee
but for real, no, i was being serious, mhork, or whoever said that
if you want to push me, why are you voting PA? go ahead and vote me. At least, then, you can get some bloody analysis out of my RVS wagon
vote: Safety_Danceblatant OMGUS, but I am a man of my word
I don't even really want to vote you - I like your name... I like the song... whatever.
I don't like the RVS. I would rather have RQS. RVS is idiotic. It creates silly wagons on town (AND LOW AND BEHOLD THE ONE BITCHING ABOUT THIS HAS A WAGON ON THEM HMMM)
vote: Safety_Dance
What is your favorite color?
What's your favorite season?
Are you cat or dog person? If other , please specify.
What do you like to do to relax?
So, do you watch any sports?
Which broomstick brand was more revolutionary for its time - Cleansweep or Nimbus?
Just how good are socks? Especially nice, thick, warm woolly pairs?
If you had a nice pair of socks would you waste it on a house elf?
Voldemort vs Sauron, who wins?
This is so much more effective!
It's a complete waste of time. I hate RQS. It just leads to random wagons on town.In post 46, penguin_alien wrote: So if you don't want to vote him but want to keep your word, why not vote and unvote? If you want RQS, try to start RQS. I've never played in a game with it, so I can't say from experience how it compares to RVS.
not necessarily. I'm working to deter my wagon. THAT in and of itself is nullIn post 45, DoctorPepper wrote:So Saint, if you hate RVS, why vote for someone just because of an offhand threat to vote for whoever votes you? Isnt that in itself RVS?
mhork is leaning scum ... no reasoning, and broseidon is right that the self meta shit is a jokeIn post 41, Lord Mhork wrote:Anyone got meta on Saint? 'cause I threw this exact hissy fit back to back as scum.
nice... i'm totes jellyIn post 78, ArcAngel9 wrote:Prod received...theren't much to catch up
going out for clubbing..will post when i am back
OH ANOTHER MHORK VOTEIn post 76, DeasVail wrote:Don't worry Fuzzy, it's great.
I may get back to Penguin later, but she's not who I want to focus on right now.
Unvote
Vote: Lord Mhork
(I'm sorry )
First, if you could link me to the game where you behaved similar to Saint, that would be great.
The vote is pretty much because the way he goes all out on Saint in 69, suddenly finding EVERYTHING scummy makes it seem more like scum deciding they want to attack a player (Saint) and then attacking whatever they can, rather than town trying to read the player.
I also find Ghostlin suspicious because of how he only considers there to be two possible suspects (more like scum focusing on who they want to attack than town trying to read every player. PoE is very unlikely at this stage of the game). Also, there's just a lack of town-ness to his posts that makes me really want him to vote him even though there's not all that much I have on him.
I talk to myself when I am working things out. I have a high IQ. I am openselved as town.In post 72, Ghostlin wrote:If you seriously believe this, why is your vote on me?In post 66, Saint wrote:actually ghostlin is probably just dumb town that feeds into empirical bullshit
"Your vote is invalid, so I'm going to OMGUS (yes, I know it's not scummy) you in my first post, and then call you dumb Town in next that feeds into empirical bullshit."
Are we talking out of both sides of your mouth, or are you deliberately cognitively dissonant?
this is a very weird post. are you referring to Ghostlin?In post 74, fuzzybutternut wrote:10 Points to mister Neville Longbottom!
hmmmIn post 75, fuzzybutternut wrote:I'm sorry, I love Harry Potter way too much to let these comments go. So just bare with me.
Ghostlin! You scum again?
In post 76, DeasVail wrote:Don't worry Fuzzy, it's great.
I may get back to Penguin later, but she's not who I want to focus on right now.
Unvote
Vote: Lord Mhork
(I'm sorry )
First, if you could link me to the game where you behaved similar to Saint, that would be great.
The vote is pretty much because the way he goes all out on Saint in 69, suddenly finding EVERYTHING scummy makes it seem more like scum deciding they want to attack a player (Saint) and then attacking whatever they can, rather than town trying to read the player.
I also find Ghostlin suspicious because of how he only considers there to be two possible suspects (more like scum focusing on who they want to attack than town trying to read every player. PoE is very unlikely at this stage of the game). Also, there's just a lack of town-ness to his posts that makes me really want him to vote him even though there's not all that much I have on him.
Ghostlin is amazing in this post too. Put him above FuzzyButternut on my townlist. I like the fact that he realizes that I spurn thread comments/activity, which is pro-town... if I'm reading/hearing you(r) writing/right here.In post 79, Ghostlin wrote:Nope.In post 75, fuzzybutternut wrote:I'm sorry, I love Harry Potter way too much to let these comments go. So just bare with me.
Ghostlin! You scum again?
To address DV, there's only two people that have remotely done anything at this stage of the game to ping any kind of scumdar.
Fuzzy's distracting, but as long as he contributes to scum hunting, I don't really care; DV seems Town to me, and bluntly it's not like there's tons of people to suspect. I've got PA's jump on the Saint wagon, and the amount of flail Saint's doing under pressure. Even I wouldn't want to see Saint lynched at all now without interaction between players, nor would I see PA lynched.
mhork is bandwagonning with no reasoning other than his own meta hyperimposed onto meIn post 104, fuzzybutternut wrote:It's an..eh..associative tell I suppose. He's not playing like he was in Nuzlocke. If he's scum, we'll find out eventually.In post 102, Saint wrote:bah FB was hoping you posted on page 4 at the bottom... im going to play league... will check back in a bit
OH NICE TIMING BRO
obviously.... i know my HP, dude....
I don't think DV is scum. DV is my strongest townread for that bolded. I feel the exact same way DV does. You can see the timing of my posts vs. me reading the game... I had the same reasoning, but I didn't want to throw out weak sentiment on the vote... I was holding that in... I'm more of a descartes man, myself, than Ghostlin's English style. ahem. Sorry to go off on a tangent... I tend to do that when writing.. let me get back to this post.
Ah Quirrel... been so long since I read that... years... and I should probably kick the DVD in as a refresher.. I have 2 copies floating around
How are you getting townvibes from Mhork? He, to me, feels like he is reaching, lying about his reasoning, and being offensive to the point I would policy him if King!(maker hehe)
Our reads are completely backwards.... weird... maybe you should cast protego on my mind hahahahaha
DV- I'll believe you for now. You haven't said anything to make me change my mind.
you dont read posts?In post 186, Lord Mhork wrote:Bonus issue with Saint's "solid" town read on ArcAngel, she has made 5 posts, none of which give a particularly townie vibe.
in fact, here is mhork COMPLETELY IGNORING MY 164In post 170, Lord Mhork wrote:You're just making things up though. You still haven't justified your ArcAngel read apart from 'he's town.'In post 161, Saint wrote:i realized i did that and if you notice i have them both listed as town
I'm hunting scum right now, jackass.In post 163, Saint wrote:mhork is really beating a dead horse here
i wonder if he will actually get around to hunting scum, or if he's content sitting on his thumb
Fuck off you fucking fuckface. You haven't provided one shred of evidence against me. What is my hypocrisy? What am I doing that's bad? What is scummy about me? Is it because I'm attacking you? Is because I'm perceiving things you're doing as scummy? Those aren't scumtells. And I'm going to keep tunneling you until you prove me wrong and start acting townie. Fuck off or get it together.In post 165, Saint wrote:you know what, i'm going with a policy vote policy of being a hypocritical village idiot. plus deasvail my strongest townread is voting him. plus im not going to be 3rd/4th voter and commit a jeep tell if he does flip town, which, if he isn't a townie idiot he's scum. it's pretty much 50% townie 50% scum from mhork at this point in my eyes, and i really dont care to lose him if he's either, if he's going to continously tunnel on me and hinder us later on, OR EVEN WORSE GET A WAGON ON ME
unvote;
vote: lord_mhork
Can we please lynch this? Someone give me one good case for why he's town apart from "I feel towniness" or "Scum wouldn't be this blatant."
He's being a fuckhead. You should help me lynch him.In post 169, fuzzybutternut wrote:...Saint wtf are you doing?
you DON'T have a caseIn post 180, Lord Mhork wrote:Then why were you asking me not to vote you? Why do you think I'm scum, anyway?
Well not so much a lie, but there is something inherently dishonest about making up a read using someone else's post. There's also the slight lie about my case against him. That is, that it doesn't exist.
how am i appealing to emotions whatsoeverIn post 184, Lord Mhork wrote:The lie is essentially that I'm being a hypocrite without a case and that my case is only self meta I'm forcing on him. He is ignoring anything I post and using AtE to try to get the town on his side.In post 181, Jake from State Farm wrote:ok, can you help me out here cause I went to that quote and kept reading and didn't see you say anything other than something about OMGUS.In post 177, Lord Mhork wrote:This is Saint quoting DeasVail and saying it proves that ArcAngel is town. I've brought it up a couple times, but rather than answer me Saint just sits and says I'm being hypocritical and making things up. He's ignoring me, slinging mud, and generally being a dick about it. He's also grossly misrepresenting my case against him and playing emotions to win over the town.
I just need to focus.
1. tell me what lie Saint supposedly said, if you want to link it to me that's even better
Night then, Jake.2. what is the issue with Saint quoting Desa proving AA9 is town?It's not that what DeasVail said makes ArcAngel look townie. It's that Saint takes this post, makes it sound as though ArcAngel posted it, and declares it as further proof of his town read on her. Not only that, but he's unapologetic of this mistake, so I get the vibe he isn't really reading the players but looking for who would be best designated as town or scum for the sake of lynching (which he has already admitted into taking into account).In post 88, Saint wrote:OH ANOTHER MHORK VOTEIn post 76, DeasVail wrote:Don't worry Fuzzy, it's great.
I may get back to Penguin later, but she's not who I want to focus on right now.
Unvote
Vote: Lord Mhork
(I'm sorry )
First, if you could link me to the game where you behaved similar to Saint, that would be great.
The vote is pretty much because the way he goes all out on Saint in 69, suddenly finding EVERYTHING scummy makes it seem more like scum deciding they want to attack a player (Saint) and then attacking whatever they can, rather than town trying to read the player.
I also find Ghostlin suspicious because of how he only considers there to be two possible suspects (more like scum focusing on who they want to attack than town trying to read every player. PoE is very unlikely at this stage of the game). Also, there's just a lack of town-ness to his posts that makes me really want him to vote him even though there's not all that much I have on him.
NICE
THAT FITS INTO MY TOWNREAD ON AA
AA + BUTTERNUT, VOTING BLOC? PLZ? Seriously, I think you're both town with me, and we can get something done. Tentatively adding Deasvail to that list, because I like how offtopic she was reacting to Dr.P in glancing because where Dr.P bolded it I saw it already... it COULD be read as parroting, but I actually get townie vibes from that clubbing comment... just so out of place for a harry potter game, that I don't see it as scum
The short and sweet is that this post has nothing to with ArcAngel, so it makes no sense.
65 is when he first says I have no reasoning. 87 is where he says again that I have no reasoning and that I'd be good policy lynch bait. 89 he again points out my lack of reasoning and steps it up by calling me a hypocrite. 111 he says that my only reason for voting him is hyperimposed meta (which, as I've pointed out, is a lie). 143 he says I'm misrepresenting and being hypocritical and now I'm a village idiot.3, tell me what post number to start reading from RE: ignoring you/slinging mud
My favorite part of rereading his ISO is rediscovering the fact that he never gave real reasoning for ArcAngel being town other than one post where she is 'probably' town. Then magically becomes a solid, strong town read. Interesting how that works.
if you help me with this i promise I will read it before I go to bed tonight (as long as you get it up in the next hour)
2 late nights and I am exhausted and am planning to be in bed by 10:00 east coast if I can help it
Thanks
penguin your feeble attempts at appearing intelligent are seriously only coming across as a confusing messIn post 192, penguin_alien wrote:Hey, ArcAngel9, why zero comments on anything past RVS? An opinion on Saint vs. Lord Mhork? Or anything else?
Jake from State Farm, your push on DeasVail doesn't track from an outside perspective. Is there some play history you have with him that makes you think what you're pointing out goes with him being scum? And I'm not sure why you don't see the problem with Saint going 'This quote here from ArcAngel9 [insert quote from DeasVail] is something town would say, so ArcAngel9 must be town.' If it's a mistake, fine, but why not acknowledge it promptly? It's easy to pull the wrong quote when assembling a post, but trying to hold onto a read with a demonstrable lack of basis isn't symptomatic of town trying to establish genuine reads.
Saint, first you find DeasVail's quote (the one attributed to AA9) very towny, you continually list him as a town read, and then off the fact that he asked you to back up the perfunctory moving of your vote from ArcAngel9 to SafetyDance, he becomes your top scum read? Can you break that down further? Because while I get keeping your word re: voting the next person who votes you, useless though such a move may be, your settling there for a time wasn't very pro-town and was worth questioning at the least.
finally, a female that admits she doesn't understand meIn post 194, DeasVail wrote:DoctorPepper is a nothing read, Ghostlin is a content-filled nothing read, Saint is a 'I don't even know what's going on, but maybe town' read, and TMT is still scummy but I want to see more.
if mhork is town, he is a bad player, and still worth a lynch because he lies, twists, and tunnelsIn post 197, RachMarie wrote:could we slow down the wagon here and give me a chance to catch my breath LOL .
I feel pretty good that Mhork is likely to be town. Not too many redheads serve he who must not be named ... and I am definitely not seeing the case on him here. I will find some games I have been in with him one is scum one is town and I was sure he was scum in that one too lol. Good thing Thor replaced in when he did.
Will do some ISOing and see who I think is on the dark side of things.
yeah I LOVE HP which is why I replaced into this game.
Loved the Dobby reference lol.
i went to the hospital a few days agoIn post 220, TMTOLBTWNTOF wrote:Sorry for not posting, I only got out of the hospital a few days ago.
I'll make a catchup post in a few hours.
well, i have been liking your posting more the last 2 days, as when you're away, other people tend to jump out as being scummier, and you are a breath of fresh air that i miss...In post 223, Ghostlin wrote:Really? The why even make as big of a deal as you WERE making out of it.In post 199, Jake from State Farm wrote:I'm not pushing for him to be modkilledIn post 191, Ghostlin wrote:I have to admit, the whole 'DV should be modkilled for a joke' seems like an odd push and almost overboard.
@penguin - I've never played with deas, idk why you thing my push on him is based on something other than his content in THIS game.
Saint #218, lemme ask you this: you like a jump onto me but you don't understand the reasons? You'll have to explain that one to me. Also, if you're that concerned re: me to like the jump, then why?
#222 reads like Town, but there's no reason to be an ass to the guy on V/LA.
I can be pleasant if someone deserves itIn post 225, Ghostlin wrote:Saint's probably Town with his playstyle. Scum doesn't necessarily LIKE attracting the amount of attention Saint has, but it seems he's trying to play for more unpleasant player in the game.
Also, I find the whole 'hasn't posted since Monday' ironic considering there are people posting WAY less content than me in this game.
nice explanation of what GUTS are^In post 237, DeasVail wrote:Another thing, I feel like his defence of Saint could easily be applied to me in some of the things he says are scummy about me (e.g. reaction to SD's posts and townread on Saint), so I'm beginning to think that he's only attacking me because he decided to have me as a scumread and defending Saint because he decided to.
I tend to vote replacements, unless they are very active (like you)In post 239, Jake from State Farm wrote:Why do people (not just you) kiss the ass of replacements. Let them read/post without any attempt at influencing them.
not necessarily a scumtell whatsoever, but i don't want to encourage broken promises. people need to be scumhunting, and if they're not, we need to lynch themIn post 240, TMTOLBTWNTOF wrote:I felt like I was fencesitting on the issue between Mhork and Saint.In post 129, DeasVail wrote:FoS: TMTfor 125
Maybe I'll vote/elaborate/change my mind when I look at things more properly tonight.
PEdit: Ew you can be scum too.
If I was fencesitting, then explain 125.In post 134, Ghostlin wrote:*Hands you a piece of fence to sit on.* No one reverses their opinion this quickly. Do you have any conviction (in another game, I'd say 'balls') at all?In post 124, TMTOLBTWNTOF wrote:Alright, I think you've sufficiently summarized and explained to me why Saint is scum, so I'll retract my townread on Saint.
It wasn't an opinion, I changed it because I ignored some points that I hadn't looked at earlier.
You completely overreacted to a flip flop and it feels like you're pouncing on a nulltell.
VOTE: Ghostlin
Hospitalized for surgery. I don't have a smart phone, and I share my laptop.In post 222, Saint wrote:i went to the hospital a few days agoIn post 220, TMTOLBTWNTOF wrote:Sorry for not posting, I only got out of the hospital a few days ago.
I'll make a catchup post in a few hours.
that is not an excuse
Saint: your 211, where does Mhork say you're appealing to emotions?
You're saying that's a greater scumtell than your whole thing on Mhork?In post 217, Saint wrote: I don't like AA saying "i'm going to post reads" and then not being here for 8 hours. If I don't see something in the next 12 I'm going to vote there, even if mhork is a great vote regardless of alignment for "acting" dumb
or they push on meta from other games... ahem... like a few people here are doing. not saying town don't do that, but if mhork can use self meta on others, i'll do that with that.In post 241, Ghostlin wrote:Flip flop is not a null tell. Flip flop means you've got inconsistent positions. Town have procession of reads and stances.In post 240, TMTOLBTWNTOF wrote:If I was fencesitting, then explain 125.
It wasn't an opinion, I changed it because I ignored some points that I hadn't looked at earlier.
You completely overreacted to a flip flop and it feels like you're pouncing on a nulltell.
Scum are generally the ones that go 'gee, I don't know, this might be scummy.'
this is a shit postIn post 242, RachMarie wrote:YAY Amrun ♥
Saint is unfortunately probably town based on his tantrums, but uggh would be good vig bait. Or a good PL if we are close to deadline but in general other than avoiding a NL situation, I am not really fond of PLs, I prefer to focus on finding scumz.
Since I am very familiar with the books, I figure there is probably a mafia PR (Voldemort) and probably 2 goons based on the number of players. The goons most likely would have Death Eater names. I could be wrong though, I know some mods mix it up a bit to make it less obvious.
but the part about one mafia PR of some sort plus 2 goons is a good guess I think based on having 14 players.
this is blatant omgus... why did you wait to do this?In post 246, DeasVail wrote:I've decided.
Unvote: Lord Mhork
Vote: Jake from State Farm
Ghostlin's not a terrible vote though.
PEdit: I disagree that flip-flopping is a scumtell, but the way that TMT did it was slightly scummy to me.