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I'mmmmm replacing! Just got back from balto meet etc. and I travel every weekend for business, so give me some time to settle and soon I will do one big wall dump and then ill play from that point.- Amrun
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oh my god
there's misogyny in this game?
woo boy
going to start reading now
SHOULD BE FUN GAIS- Amrun
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Reflected my thoughts during this time.In post 15, DeasVail wrote:
No, are you?In post 12, ArcAngel9 wrote:Hey Deas, its been a while since StreetRacers, so are you scum again?
Time to vote the one that's reaching.
Vote: Penguin_alien
Terribad.
I really hate this post. Ghostlin very clearly thought Saint and PA were scummy, but it could mean that DoctorPepper isn't thinking in those terms. (Does he know who the scum are?)In post 23, DoctorPepper wrote:How can you hate RVS and simultaneously not agree with people who share the same idea?
Totally agree with this post. Ghostlin perhaps my strongest town read for now.In post 40, Ghostlin wrote:
If it was only pseudo-serious, then there was a slight not serious element there. I won't say 'random', but you even downplayed the vote by saying it was only pseudo-serious, which is not something you usually do outside of RVS.In post 39, Saint wrote:"why participate as he kinda did in #8?"
how was i participating?
"why participate as he kinda did in #8?"how was i participating?
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LOL I replaced DoctorPepper. Fuicking hilarious. I very seriously almost voted him in that post but was like "well i am going to finish reading first"
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Read CDB's post -- question, why is looking for a catch all reason to call Saint town scummy, unless Ghostlin is scum with Saint? (And do you think the latter is the case?)
p-edit: I did, when I read the role pm yesterday, but I forgot today when actually attempting to read the game. I'm really fucking tired. Forget that happened kthx >.>- Amrun
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I slept over 30 hours yesterday. Post-meet exhaustion. I am always scarce on weekends but I'll attempt to keep catching up tonight.- Amrun
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I am on page 3, and furc is town as fuck. Hi furc!!!
Mhork's attack on him is slightly scummy. Mhork, have you ever played with furc?
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I HATE this post. It's terrible. Asking others to categorize another player's flailing, fluff, and backing down from a question by simply downgrading a read.In post 105, TMTOLBTWNTOF wrote:
IDK, can someone detail the flailing he's doing?In post 84, DeasVail wrote:Mhork, going on the offense is fine. I just find it hard to believe that you find so many things about Saint's post scummy.
TMT, what do you think of Saint?
I read this book as a grade school student and instantly hated Dumbledore for this move. What a pathetic, manipulative and childish act for someone so wise. But then again, the students are just pawns in his greater game of nurturing Harry, isn't it? And if Gryffindor didn't win the House Cup every year, that wouldn't work, WOULDN'T IT?In post 95, fuzzybutternut wrote:In post 91, Saint wrote:
this is a very weird post. are you referring to Ghostlin?In post 74, fuzzybutternut wrote:10 Points to mister Neville Longbottom!
Saint..this is a quote from the movie. Neville gets the 10 points that wins gryffindor the House Cup.
Assuming this is me, mainly because of vibes and strong early game. Bro isn't that strong anymore.fuzzybutternut wrote:Oh god..Nuzlocke. That game. Mhork, why you freak out so bad?
TMTQRLZUQUOEPDH: Why is Bro your strongest town read?
Also, I really think Saint is town
This and every other post by Mhork on this page is terrible as well.In post 123, Lord Mhork wrote:They're scum tells in this instance because Saint is using them in lieu of an actual defense. He's just trying to win town support against me.
By the way. Did anyone have issues with Saint just making up a fake town read on ArcAngel using a DeasVail quote? Or is it just me?- Amrun
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I forgot to say the reason why mhork's were terrible: saying something is a scum tell rather than scummy, then asking for confirmation.- Amrun
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On page 7 and its fucking troll as hell.
Dv's explanation for post 43 is so spot on and exactly what I was thinking upon reading those posts. He's easily my strongest town read. Jake's entrance is bad.
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Omg guys!! I caught up on my phone and I am proud. Didn't post as much as I would have from computer, but I'm a frequent poster in general so you'll just have to get over it.
CDB, I asked you a question and you didn't answer it. IS THE SHEET STILL ON YOUR HEAD?!
Overall impressions:
Ghostlin town, Saint town, DV town, CDB town, Jake likely town, fuzzy likely town.
I keep forgetting that ArcAngel is in the game. This is ???
Mhork is fairly overwhelmingly scummy.
P_A posts a lot, and is logical, but still manages to say very little. This is scummy.
Broseidon is meh. I keep flip flipping but my read is never very strong in either direction. Right now I lean town.
RachMarie has shared so few reads that it's alarming. Scummy.
If I forgot anyone, you're forgettable and that's bad.
Fairly good amount of town reads. Feeling good about this game.
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Oh, I forgot letters. He's scummy.
Letters, what is your previous mafia experience?- Amrun
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Has either of them been scum games? Either way, can you link them both, please- Amrun
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But you never answered the question. Even if you had legitimately downgraded the read, you could have answered what made it strong, and then what made it wane.
Fyi, if it's still going on it's not complete and you shouldn't reference it. But thanks.- Amrun
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I find letters' meta inconclusive. He has been generally less decisive this game than previously .- Amrun
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Mhork -- his meta is pretty unique. This is furc town, quite simply.
As for Ghostlin, I don't like to detail town reads unless I see a valid game reason to do so. It's enough to say that he has reflected my own thoughts at the right times enough that I won't lynch him today unless the only alternative is no lynch or DV, probably.- Amrun
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K you're dumb
No. Especially because I've already posted at least one example.- Amrun
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rach, I dont have meta on him as Saint. As furcolow, I do, but the only one I remember is the one U pick we were in as one of my first games. We were scum together, but I replaced in at the end of Day 1 in ehich he was lymched with great prejudice. he was obvscum, tbf. we won the game anyway, though. We have played together plenty of times, but my wiki is not up tk date because i uldated it pre-crash amd them thr togers ate it so i said fuck this shit. The game I mentioned is still there, though.
CDB, I didn't know that was an answer because it lacked a comma. I thought you were saying you needed to seeIn post 430, ChannelDelibird wrote:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p5010614In post 407, Amrun wrote:CDB, I asked you a question and you didn't answer it. IS THE SHEET STILL ON YOUR HEAD?!
Why?Ghostlin town
More of me before commenting on my alignment.
Either way, that's a pitiful answer to that question. You said Ghost looking for a universal reason to call Saint town was scummy. I asked you why. You can't possibly need more time to evaluate that; you've already said it is scummy.
I actually meant 20 hours. But really if you count amount of time slept after midnight too, it's still 30. I just got back from a meet and was tired as fuck.In post 433, Saint wrote:
how can you sleep over 30 hours in a dayIn post 399, Amrun wrote:I slept over 30 hours yesterday. Post-meet exhaustion. I am always scarce on weekends but I'll attempt to keep catching up tonight.
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haha jk... but really... you slept a day and a quarter? I mean, I sleep half a day, but for real... 30 hours? that's crazy. you might want to look into that.- Amrun
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I second Jake detailing his read on Ghostlin because its weird to have him as null and then go "why do you read him as town?"- Amrun
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That's the answer I was looking for and I get what you're saying now.- Amrun
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For the record, I disagree that Ghostlin was doing that and that it's especially scummy. I don't really see scum looking to clear controversial town for generic reasons that often. If a scum needed to clear a town, I see that being a reasonably scummy way to do it, but I don't see the scum motivation for doing that in the first place.- Amrun
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Yes, that's true -- but IF you had said null (and I was assuming you had, didn't check), then you should be equally inquiring about both sides of the read. But you didn't say null so it's a moot point. Apologies.
As for calling you dumb, I didn't mean it personally, but I find that kind of rich considering how rude you were to DV especially. But sorry if it offended you; I didn't mean it to.- Amrun
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I listed reasons I suspected Mhork in a post on the same page, Arc. I won't have a computer available until Mondayish. I generally go entirely v/la on weekends but I am making special effort this week because I was v/la all week due to baltomeet.
You have posted nothing in terms of content all game, and THAT'S your catch up? Wow, impressive.- Amrun
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Gotta second this.In post 469, ChannelDelibird wrote:Jake's not happening, DV.
Luckily with Mhork we lynch scumIn post 460, Saint wrote:i dont lynch for information, or i'd be voting mhork, or ghostlin. pretty much everyone has taken a stance there. i lynch scum.andget information. I'm hardly saying "Mhork's town but let's vote him anyway".- Amrun
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Gut scum or gut town, fuzzy? I could probably vote there.
Wish each had waited for Mhork to claim...
VOTE: letters[\vote]- Amrun
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Not true! Reading is tech.In post 507, Jake from State Farm wrote:Now, @ Amrun - you have never explained your scum read of letter other than "scummy" so please explain it.
But I will make a post type post this evening at some point. I simply refuse to do it on my phone.
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Jake, reading is TECH. Seriously. Look again. lol- Amrun
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Percy makes no sense at all as a super saint. Ridic. Kill it now.- Amrun
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I think I'm supposed to vote so Ghostlin can hammer. Please confirm so i can do that.
I don't see why letters can't hammer but enough people suspect Ghostlin it's probably just better to not fight this, since I have no reasoning beyond "Ghostlin has said some things that I was thinking and feels town."- Amrun
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that was bad and you should FEEL BAD
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no, no.
idc what you say, furc.
she claimed super saint and it was fucking obvious bullshit. you can't let that shit live.- Amrun
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You ... or maybe Ghostlin. DV a distant third.In post 601, Saint wrote:Rach, who is the most likely to be scum that is a lurker? Active?
Amrun, I believe youre town, for now. If you had to give a gun to someone via your wand, who would you give a gun to?- Amrun
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In the universe where you're not Fred and George...?
You're likely town, but regardless, that's a silly question. (Lol belatedly realize i didn't even think of giving the gun to one o f the claimed masons but I'm not confident either of them would shoot well)
Saint, I'm not meta reliant but I certainly take it into account.
Fuzzy, you fail to take into account that scum make suicidal moves when they're already as good as dead, as arc did. I thought Arc might be some scum variant, but no way was she Percy Weasley, SUPER SAINT. Obviously fake claims like that need to die, because try can never be trusted in lylo. Why can they never be trusted in lylo? Because they have a good shot at being scum.- Amrun
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Oh my GOD, missed the last page. This post had me in stitches.In post 622, fuzzybutternut wrote:In post 618, Amrun wrote:In the universe where you're not Fred and George...?
You're likely town, but regardless, that's a silly question. (Lol belatedly realize i didn't even think of giving the gun to one o f the claimed masons but I'm not confident either of them would shoot well)
Saint, I'm not meta reliant but I certainly take it into account.
Fuzzy, you fail to take into account that scum make suicidal moves when they're already as good as dead, as arc did. I thought Arc might be some scum variant, but no way was she Percy Weasley, SUPER SAINT. Obviously fake claims like that need to die, because try can never be trusted in lylo. Why can they never be trusted in lylo? Because they have a good shot at being scum.
Hmm, ever think that maybe, JUST MAYBE, she wanted to stay in this game? Maybe she didn't want to be lynched out, so she claimed something that MIGHT just save her? No?
What's all this talk about Lylo? How can you be so certain that we're going to make it to lylo?
VOTE: Amrun
So it's suicidal for scum, but a last ditch to save herself as town? And you're pretending this makes sense? And voting me for MENTIONING lylo in a perfectly normal manner?
lolololol
bybye townread on fuzzy- Amrun
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It's just as survivalist for town as scum, and you're missing the point that she was already dying, so "suicide" does not mean what you think it means.
You literally cannot say "she was obviously claiming it to survive because she was town" and "scum would not say that to survive." It's completely illogical.
And several things about omgus.
a) OMGUS isn't a scum tell.
b) I'm not voting for you.
c) My reason for retracting my town read on you had almost nothing to do with your vote on me (though it is bad and you should feel bad).- Amrun
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That's such mudslinging. The post I quoted also contained the reason I retracted my town read on you, which I explicitly stated.In post 632, fuzzybutternut wrote:It's not illogical at all, actually.
Where did I say OMGUS was a scum tell?
You don't have to vote someone to suck.
Really? Because the retraction of your town read was only stated after quoting the post in which I voted you.
Either way, nothing you have accused me of is even remotely scummy. And the fact that you probably know that and don't seem to care concerns me, but not nearly as much as your ridiculous level of hypocrisy that I find more likely to come from scum.- Amrun
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In post 637, Amrun wrote:
That's such mudslinging. The post I quoted also contained the reason I retracted my town read on you, which I explicitly stated.In post 632, fuzzybutternut wrote:It's not illogical at all, actually.
Where did I say OMGUS was a scum tell?
You don't have to vote someone to suck.
Really? Because the retraction of your town read was only stated after quoting the post in which I voted you.
Either way, nothing you have accused me of is even remotely scummy. And the fact that you probably know that and don't seem to care concerns me, but not nearly as much as your ridiculous level of hypocrisy that I find more likely to come from scum.- Amrun
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I've been here much longer than him and he's full of shit.- Amrun
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So if you had a scum read on angel for her claim, why exactly didn't you vote for her...?
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In post 672, ChannelDelibird wrote:Well, that was shorter than I was expecting.
I'll start with Ghostlin. The way he went about the hammer looks town (probably enough to ignore him today) but I still have reservations. While Fuzzy's logic is all wrong (you can't explain why town might do something and then insist that scum wouldn't try to do that, because the whole point of scum is that they want to look like town) I think it's fairly obvious that he believes what he's saying, so I find posts like this hard to understand.
On this:
...my answer has to be 'no, not something specific in that last post'
but, assuming for now that the masons are telling the truth, I find it difficult to imagine a scumgroup not containing TMOAFGKAMLDXP at this point. I'm happy enough to call Fuzzy, DV and Saint town for the time being and that does narrow things down a fair bit.
Amrun, you haven't actually spoken about TSAPTERASA today despite the early vote - could you summarise why you're voting him please? BRO, could you explain the quoted post?
Sure!
Basically, crazyletters has been playing very timidly, even accounting for being a newbie. He's being timid in a particular way I find indicative of noobscum: scared to commit, backing down immediately when challenged, etc. And when he DOES finally take a stance, I generally find it inaccurate and weak and I can't relate to it as coming from a town perspective.
One of the worst single incidents was when he was asked to explain a "strong townread," and his answer was, "It's not strong anymore." This doesn't read genuinely to me AT ALL.
Add to that refusing to put Angel at L-1 yesterday DESPITE her being a professed scumread and letters reads very much like "cautious scum" to me.
And as for your thoughts on fuzzy, I'm conflicted. As you said, he's obviously wrong, but DOES he believe it? I flip flop on it. One one hand, he SEEMS convicted enough, but on the other, his explanation makes so little sense that I can see it coming from scum who's being doggedly consistent even after putting forth a stance that doesn't quite make sense. Scum are often worried to back down on their word and appear inconsistent. Either way, I'm not eager and jumping to lynch fuzzy today, but as I said, my straight town read on him is retracted.- Amrun
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Why would you be concerned about towntelling or not towntelling as a mason?- Amrun
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REASONSIn post 694, ChannelDelibird wrote:Amrun, you haven't mentioned penguin_alien for a long time. I don't necessarily disagree with the vote but why not expand on it?
DON'T RAIN ON MY PARADE
EVEN THOUGH YOU ALREADY DID
WHY DID YOU DO THAT CDB- Amrun
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Obviously it's weird. You couldn't see what penguin alien did with a weird vote? -.-In post 702, ChannelDelibird wrote:
Because it was weird. It's still weird.In post 701, Amrun wrote:REASONS
DON'T RAIN ON MY PARADE
EVEN THOUGH YOU ALREADY DID
WHY DID YOU DO THAT CDB- Amrun
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How much clearer can it get? It was a reaction test which you handily ruined. Calling it weird downplays the vote and changes her reaction to it.In post 728, ChannelDelibird wrote:
I'm going to look back at penguin_alien imminently but I'd like you to expand on this anyway.In post 706, Amrun wrote:Obviously it's weird. You couldn't see what penguin alien did with a weird vote? -.-
It was weird ON PURPOSE. Why didn't you wait for her to react to it?- Amrun
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Okay okay. But I was trying to draw her into the game more directly, and she's stayed on the periphery for the most part, though not entirely.
I'm liking the bro wagon but don't think I'm ready for L-1.- Amrun
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I forget why I ever tinfoiled on fuzzy. He was just wrong and that's okay.- Amrun
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Translation: you are more likely to be town than scum.- Amrun
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VT is zero reason to unvote so.
I'm still kind of conflicted on him though. :/- Amrun
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Also since there was a vanilla cop, it stands to reason that SOMEONE is not vanilla, thereby decreasing probability that both Harry and Hermione are.
But I'm still quietly debating whether bro is scum. I don't feel confident about this flip, but I'm also not confident or even reasonably comfortable with him being town, which is assuredly not a reason to keep him alive. - Amrun
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