Newbie 1389 Trouble in River City Game Over Scum win

[imkingdavid]

/confirm

[imkingdavid]

Well would you look at that? It's my scum day! Four years ago today I made the decision to never trust anyone ever again.

VOTE: Kueshina

Last to confirm. Obvscum. Die.

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btw fferyllt - lacking RVS, what is your plan for starting Day 1? RQS?

[imkingdavid]

Okay, given the activity level in this game, I should probably go ahead and put this disclaimer: I've just started a full time job and am therefore going to be mostly unavailable during the work day until evening/night (except during lunch/breaks on my phone). I do of course plan to be active, but probably not as active as some of you (if the activity so far is any indication). Also, I'm responding now a bit earlier than I might normally because we went home early due to an incoming storm today.

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Anyway...

Kue - my vote was mostly "random", in the sense of how random is used in RVS on this site. I simply went to the list of players and looked for the player who would be last to confirm (i.e. you) and voted accordingly. I figured that was obvious due to the joking use of "obvscum" and the fact that it was still on page one. Next time I'll try to be more clear.

I don't agree that it is necessarily very advantageous for scum to purposely delay their confirmation because they have to stop talking privately as soon as day begins (with 7/9 confirmations), so they don't really gain anything from waiting. If anything, I think last to confirm is a null tell. It just comes around to who happened to be afk at the time.

In any case, I think we've generally made it out of RVS by now because there is actual discussion and suspicion based on reactions from RVS. That's a good thing.

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I don't think we should be jumping to conclusions on who are scum partners just yet. It can be a bad thing to link two people either as scum or as town prior to knowing at least one scum's identity.

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Right now, I have my suspicions of sikon based really only on his sort of apologetic and (from my point of view) insecure attitude so far. Seems very afraid to ruffle any feathers.

[imkingdavid]

It's been a long day. Will post tomorrow. For now...zzzZZZzzzz

[imkingdavid]

@mod -please prod morthas

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I'd like to note that Kueshina's vote will not count because of the parenthetical comment on rule 4 of the voting section in the mod's rule post.

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Anyway, to be honest I don't really see much for me to comment on, and not much has changed since my last post, that I can tell.

[imkingdavid]

Hey, busy weekend (due to Father's day) and then a long day today. I'll be sure to post tomorrow evening after work.

[imkingdavid]

sikon - my condolences.

A wise mafia man I once knew said "When in doubt, hang the lurkers." Mostly because their actions are not pro-town (they are either lurking intentionally as scum, or not helping the town by way of not contributing, so TL;DR HANG THEM.)

No. Differentiate between lurking and active lurking. In a newbie game there will be a lot of lurking from people who are new and perhaps intimidated by the level of play. That is a null tell. Active lurking, on the other hand, is posting and talking a lot and saying a whole lot of nothing. Policy lynching lurkers is not a good thing. Instead, have them replaced. That is a good thing. Active lurking can be a lynchable offense if there is something else to back it up.

There's no pressure to move quickly at this point, and we already have somebody at L-2

Just to clarify, Trollie removed his vote so no Kues is back to L-3.

By the way:
UNVOTE:

My vote on Kues was RVS and no longer applies. I don't find him scummy at this point.

sikon has also recently been looking townie to me - what I saw in the early posts is no longer present.

fferyllt - is your vote on me simply pressure or what? I see in #133 you say that bauss is your "strongest scum read" but I don't see a vote on him. I find it odd that you'd place your first vote in the game on a self-admitted inactive player rather than on your strongest suspect. Also, you're voting me, as I understand it, due to inactivity. But as others have rightfully pointed out, you've done a lot of talking without saying much (up till recently when you posted your reads on a few players). I don't see the difference between my inactive inactivity and your active inactivity.

Anyway, I won't be voting you at the moment. Inactivity is a fact and not really something you can defend against, and I don't find it strong enough to be a reason for you to be lynched, especially this early on.

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#114 from cAPS is meh. I've seen other ICs say that kind of stuff and have even said it myself as IC before. Perhaps that goes better earlier in the game, but ultimately it is a good thing to identify to the new players that IC is role/alignment-independent. I would not like to make a big deal out of it.

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cAPS has also posted actively without really saying much. He votes Lynx for lurking but other than that, I don't see much of anything as far as actual content, except perhaps #114, which I've already addressed.

VOTE: cAPS

[imkingdavid]

I really, really hate to do this to you guys, but my job is taking a heck of a lot more time than I thought it would and I don't have time to participate like I had hoped.

@mod - I'm very sorry, but please replace me.