Of those who have posted so far, heres my opening feelings...
Fegelein – Nice opening RVS vote. Makes a point of saying miss stranger has been put at L-2 (she hasn’t, gen wolf didn’t unvote first) and says antagon is probably town. I think he is by his posts up to that point, but no explanation to the thought process is no use to anyone. Tries to theorise on the post editing that its concern on appearance, although nobody seems concerned with maybe quizzing her on WHAT was edited. If its something they already know because they saw, use it to explain how she is concerning with appearance. Doesnt press gen wolfs loose and scummy looking comment, just shoots it down with a ‘no’ and moves on. That in itself sits badly for me. Tries to justify the wagon on fegelein, seemingly unconcerned that miss stranger is believed to be at L-2. A jab at nachomamma, with a follow up on what he was meaning (feels like a bit of a prodding pressure play, but could be just to put the seeds of doubt into peoples minds about him).
So far sits in the middle because he seems to not dwell on anything or expand on things unless pressed. Is jabbing at opponents rather than seeking a sound blow. For now he is on the fence for me and i want to see more from him in the analysis.
Miss stranger – nice opening RVS vote. Picks up on antagons RVS vote and questions it a little, unvoting her own choice for the time being (possibly readying an early pressure vote is antagon responds badly?). Must be very new to online mafia if she isn’t aware of the no editing rule that every site i have seen mafia on enforces. Wasnt actually waiting for antagon to respond it seems as she puts down a pressure vote on him (decidedly un RVS voting). Justifies her vote ton antagon, and acknowledges the ninja’ing but not the posts content that ninja’d her. Explains her editing well and defends the spurious push against her for changing votes. #22 is a good post against very flawed logic for her votes. Admits to having some experience which makes me concenred she isn’t aware of the strict no editing rules of mafia. And is hung up on being accused of too much vote hopping, mafia do tend to get hung up on appearance in game but this could also because she thinks she is at L-2 still and is panicking. Her early reads on people seem ok, although im not actually sure at that stage what fegelein has done beyond being behind her vote so is this trying to be nice to someone she fears could push on her later? Follows up with a quick summary of people with reasons, which is much better, but this really needs separating out to individual opinions of the people in my view. In answering fegelein it seemed genuine but also felt like fence sitting.
Feels very n00b in most of what she has done, but i wonder if gen wolf and her are in the process of bussing in some places, although for now she gets a spot on the fence while i figure out how new she really is.
Feel it – scummy opening
(only kidding, again nice opening RVS vote). Responds to the RVS vote on him although seems to be running with it in a light hearted way. Doesnt unvote when he votes miss stranger so unsure if he is playing that vote tactically or hasn’t realised the general voting etiquette. Joins in on the early pressure on miss stranger for her post editing error, and this seems to be the basis for being happy to see someone at L-2 (which she isn’t) on page 1. Claims the push was not major, she miss stranger just scum slipped first. Moves on to gen wolfs bigger scum slip but doesn’t vote gor gen wolf, instead deliberates whether to give him the benfit of the doubt or not. Unvotes miss stranger based on her defence, seems legitimate too given his suspicions growing on gen wolf. Good throw down of the gen wolf vote, liking this because it comes at a time when gen wolf has been reactionary and contradictory of everything he is trying to defend. Feel it then goes into a bit more analysis of the few players who have only just started posting.
Im getting more town vibes than scum vibes from him at this point, and not knowing who has what experience here i am leabing towards not being the strongest analyser of games.
Gen wolf – nice, if crude, opening RVS vote. Jumps on miss stranger for her editing error. Even in a newbie game the idea that her editing in that post was to hide a scum slip is a reach, so the justification for this vote feels forced. Bizarre comment to say ‘lets just lynch her and be done with the day’. We have begun to leave RVS well before here, so this comment is loose and not a good sign for gen wolf’s mindset. Now the posting begins to open up as he goes on the attacking defensive, reacting to everybodies comments. Claims he doesn’t like RVS yet antagon tried to drag us out of it very early and long before his comment about wanting a quick lynch and yet returns to that point saying it was a joke. That suggests he doesn’t like RVS yet tried to put us back in it again after we were leaving it. This isn’t looking good right now. The excuse he gives to feel it is AWFUL, now claiming he did it for reaction testing, to END RVS (?) and then pats himself on the back for being the one who ended RVS.... post #31 is damning gen wolf. Jumps in when he thinks nachomamma is talking to him, very jumpy on everything at this point. Moves on to trying to turn the whole thing back on the person by comments such as them wanting to continue RVS and their reaction to the ‘reaction test’. Leaps on the first bit of praise like its water in the desert.
A strong scum read from him right now. There are leads that will come from whether im right on him, but for now he stands out way more than others.
Antagon – interesting vote to open with, especially the reason. I can see it remains harmless as its only a 2nd vote on someone, and although not random is in the spirit of RVS in potentially being jovial (we shall see). Responds he was trying to end RVS, a nice point about RVS being a smokescreen for scum slips so justification for wanting a quick end. Runs with the analysis of sorts from miss stranger and asks two open but still relevant questions.
Leaning town, although would like more from him because he started well but is not pushing heavy analysis yet.
Nachomamma – good opening on his read of the editing fiasco, doesn’t jump to conclusions which i like. A good question to me, but to follow it up with a vote after gen wolfs actions is odd to me, not even waiting for a response to his question. A good follow up to my response, although at this stage everything is a question which isn’t going to get you anywhere without your analysis to back up the importance of the question. Second part of the response to me is insight into his thoughts which is what im looking for. Again no mention of gen wolf at all. Doesnt bite on the fegelein comment which is a positive in my view. The comment was clearly to inspire a reaction and the reaction back from nacho was as sarcastic as the initial prod. Again questioning me, but a good follow up comment on how he does things.
While the vote was very reactionary, he does seem to have analysis in him. He along with champion both will leanb town based on strong analysis but forthcoming posts will sway this one either way for me.
Champinoman – Nice opening RVS vote. backs gen wolfs post #20 even though all explanation to it was shocking. Attempts to put the focus on feel it, but the stick he uses to beat him with is that he voted for miss stranger over the scummier gen wolf... the same gen wolf he liked the post of at the start of this analysis opener. From there the analysis gets stronger, and i like both his pressure on me and his equal pressure on nachomamma. Thats not picking a side, thats analysing both our starts to get to a conclusion of who is up to what. Next post is a total focus on me because he clearly isn’t happy with what i have said OR has seen an opportunity to push on something specific, either way he has reverted from a measured view of the back and forth to picking a side quite easily. Interesting buddying process going on there.
Had a strong town lean followed by a scummy focusing post. Need a bit more from him to know whether he leans town or mafia, but based on a strong analytical post there is promise there so leaning town.
With that in mind,
vote gen wolf
nah, the good insight was the comment against feel it, and his waiting for how the game trended before laying down the vote. I also like the point about insta clearing that fegelein tried but the swearing was unnecessary (think of the children... Now who are we hanging today?)