The Red Wedding - The Goose is Loose

[KillerApple]

What just happened? So much valuable information... gone forever

VOTE: macmollie

[KillerApple]

I like this wagon.

UNVOTE: macmollie
VOTE: Generic

[KillerApple]

Nacho is town. Sonic is still scum, but not as much as Generic.

[KillerApple]

All 3 of his posts give me bad vibes.

I usually come across as scum when I'm town. I play on another site and my scum survival rate is 100%, but my town survival rate is probably like 5%. And then I say these types of things that make my situation even worse

@BROseidon- What makes Nacho seem off to you?

Metal Sonic is seriously bothering me. He jumps on the early wagon and then doesn't even bother to say anything after. But because of this he is probably town.

Generic is coming across as frustrated townie so... UNVOTE: Generic
And Ankamius is probably town.

[KillerApple]

It bothers me that Metal Sonic hasn't said anything, but it's hard for me to get anything besides a null read when he only has 1 post.

[KillerApple]

^ I was about to say the same thing

VOTE: BROseidon

Why don't you have a vote down?

Because I don't vote for my null reads, silly

[KillerApple]

Generic is coming across as frustrated townie so...

why

He explained himself well, therefore he is town.

@Generic- The logic does suck. But it happens to me all the time.

[KillerApple]

Generic is coming across as frustrated townie so...

why

He explained himself well, therefore he is town.

@Generic- The logic does suck. But it happens to me all the time.

No. You said "frustrated townie", which has a certain connotation to it, and in my experience is somewhat similar to "frustrated scumbag". So what's the difference?

I can't for the love of god remember why I said frustrated. Go ahead and lynch me for it.

@Generic- Top 3. hmmm. BROseidon for his scummy post, Venmar because his posts seem weird to me, and AV because he's trying to act like his two posts had any valuable content in them. Everyone else is null except Ankamius and Tierce. They're town. And you, you're town.

[KillerApple]

Actually, Nexus's posts are way scummier than Venmar's. Switch those two.

[KillerApple]

^ That was me. Forgot to log out.

[KillerApple]

You're wasting time. BROseidon is scum.

[KillerApple]

The additional case reckoner has begun to poke apple with is even more concerning. I'm not encouraged by apples responses to what seem decent points. And post 150 is a hand waving away of it without looking like he is reacting in a negative way to a momentum gaining wagon.

vote killerapple

You seem to be attempting to hold a measure of control under pressure but you aren't effectively answering the points raised against you, it's vague and dismissive.

Lol I have no control. I will most likely be lynched. The points raised against me are pretty stupid considering I would never be so careless as scum. But I might as well shut my mouth because this post will also be used against me in some way.

Trying to offset your scumminess by daring us to lynch also isn't going to work BZZZZZZZZZZZZT

How about this? I

triple dog dare you.

[KillerApple]

Btw, Reck is the most town person here.

[KillerApple]

Whoah. Nacho, that was totally unexpected. I want to call you town now so much now, but you might just be super experienced scum

@Amrun- I think I've played like 5 or 6 games. WAY different from here, though. You guys actually communicate, which is good. I've gotten lynched 3 times on D1 as town. Can't imagine why

Good point somewhere in there, I don't recall from who. We REALLY should try lynching Andrius.

Vote Andrius

Who did you mean to type here?

BROseidon, you are so scummy but since my one vote isn't helping anything... UNVOTE: BROseidon

And for some reason Metal Sonic is mad that I tried to call him out for lurking. Possible scum here.

Oh and Dekes might be town I think.

[KillerApple]

No. I unvoted because the vote wasn't going anywhere and I need some time to think. I could care less how much pressure you apply. It makes no difference to me.

[KillerApple]

Actually Generic, I thought about it and BROseidon is town. 80% of the time when people post scummy things D1 they are town. And my D1 reads are usually off for scum. Currently scanning to see who is deserving of a vote. It amazes me how town you are though.

@Reck- You got me. Nacho and Nexus won't be too happy. It's so obvious, right? Nacho is trying to help me out so his buddy doesn't get lynched. Nexus and I both accused each other of being scum to distance ourselves early. Looks like an easy town win is coming up. But in all seriousness, my town read on you is slowly fading away.

[KillerApple]

I did say that. If you look really closely at post #243 you'll see it. There has to be at least one scum on my wagon, and BROseidon ain't on it. Probably someone who I think is town is scum. It could even be you.

[KillerApple]

Okay so one of these 5 people from post 203 has to be scum since there is always at least one scum on a wagon:

KillerApple [5] - Ankamius, Amrun, xReckonerx, Venmar, Generic

Ankamius was was first, and I think he is town. Generic is town. Unsure about Reck and Amrun. So that leaves Venmar. His posts are scummy and he should be lynched.

VOTE: Venmar

[KillerApple]

Oh my god, just die, take a crossbow to the face or something.

Why don't you just use your scum powers to NK me? I know you're scum, and I'm not moving this vote.

[KillerApple]

KillerApple, listen, i'm a Giant and you're a Bridge.

I think you meant Tormund Giantsbane

[KillerApple]

@Andrius-

My vote is on Venmar.

Fixed.
-Andy

[KillerApple]

Wheeeeeee nexus is town. So is CDB. In fact, CDB is more town than Nexus.

I have a growing urge to lynch tsunami

Agreed about CDB. Why do you have an urge to lynch tsunami?

[KillerApple]

I'm not liking the amrun end of the convo with mollie. Feels off.

It probably feels off to you because Amrun mentioned you in post 305 and post 313. It's clouding your judgement. I don't see anything wrong with that convo.

[KillerApple]

No, neither actually. I'm just saying that I don't see anything wrong with what Amrun said a few posts back.

Town Reads: Generic, nacho, Ank, CDB, Tierce
Scum Reads: MetalSonic
Known Scum: Venmar

[KillerApple]

So we're settled! Lynch Venmar and vig Metal Sonic. Best wedding ever.

Agreed.

I almost want to lynch MS, but then I would have to take my vote off Venmar. And unless Venmar says something extremely town, that's not gonna happen.

[KillerApple]

You already voted for me. How about you read the thread instead of actively lurking?

[KillerApple]

Nacho, why is your vote on Dekes? You should put it somewhere useful. Was AV's vote on Tierce before or after RVS?

[KillerApple]

Just 2 more votes for Apple guys. Go GO Go GO go

When the sun rises in the west and sets in the east, when the seas go dry and mountains blow in the wind like leaves, when your womb quickens again, and you bear a living child. Then I will flip scum, and not before.

[KillerApple]

unvote

My vote is on KA by proxy, but we need to know if a) anyone is willing to hammer, and b) if so, what KA claims.

Why would I claim D1? GJU - LH. That is the only thing I will say.

[KillerApple]

Yeah, except that Venmar is going to be lynched.

[KillerApple]

Relax, I was joking. I even claimed in the post. Just to clarify, I am Greatjon Umber of Last Hearth. I can drink more wine than any of you. Although I should have just claimed to be Moon Boy because I am playing super shitty.

[KillerApple]

Think about this for a second. Everyone on my wagon has voted me for mostly the same reasons (because of "obvious" scum posts). And you know that there are probably scum on the wagon, at least one. But how do you expect to narrow down the choices when everyone has the same reasoning? You'll get no information from this lynch. It's a terrible place to start, with one townie dead and no clues. I know I dared you all to lynch me before, and I apologize for saying stupid shit like that. But you have to trust me here. I am town. I don't care if you vote for Venmar or not, but for the love of R'hllor just put your vote somewhere else. I'm honestly trying to help you guys out here. This wagon is scum-ridden, and it will not help anything lynching me.

This wagon is preventing any real scumhunting from happening. Now be happy that I didn't claim jester, and take your damn votes off of me. My other posts may have been jokes, but I promise you this is sincere.

[KillerApple]

Venmar, Reck, and Metal Sonic.

[KillerApple]

I know what Venmar is saying. Idk if I believe it though. Okay, to be fair the lynch might give some information. I was just trying to give myself a defense.

[KillerApple]

Scum survival tendency? Seriously? Scum survival would be not getting myself into this mess in the first place. This is more like VI survival. And I can't believe I'm saying this, but I believe you. This is a perfect example of why I said earlier that my D1 reads are always wrong.
UNVOTE: Venmar

I am a VT. I know that sounds like the easiest fakeclaim ever, but it's true.

[KillerApple]

MS, did you choose the scum life or did the scum life choose you?

[KillerApple]

Might as well put my money where my mouth is.
VOTE: Metal Sonic

So relieved that Amrun is town.

[KillerApple]

Never. Just wasn't sure about her until now.

[KillerApple]

People arguing over how many scumgroups there are should feel bad.

This. I don't see how that argument would be relevant AT ALL in this stage of the game. Useless speculation.

[KillerApple]

Okay, so let's examine Metal Sonic in iso, shall we?

Posting on phone

The Apple guy just called me scum when I had only 1 post at rvs? How does that even happen

VOTE: killerapple

No. I called you out for lurking.

Btw I finished all 9 pages yeah I'm up to scratch

Says this, proceeds to not say a damn thing about his reads or what he thinks of anything going on.

Who's that nut job that accuses the guy with 2 posts to be scum?

If you read your own posts, you would know that this is me. And again, it was calling you out for lurking.

if I remember correctly, town MS is a lurksack but I have never seen him hide from accusations behind the number of his posts. but I may have to dig a little deeper into this. if I can be bothered

He's a lurk sack as scum too. In nightless when I started suspecting him for ignoring the game, he let me know the only thing I was suspecting him for was lurking and that it wasn't valid or something, can't remember the specifics, but I do know I got a healthy dose of omgus for suspecting him when he was scum.

????

i dont have scum meta you dolt

WTF is this? Denying your lurking by saying you don't have a scum meta? You must be joking.

lmao its ok

lets have a fun chat

KillerApple is either scum or nutters, he called me "scummy"(not lurking, but SCUMMY) when i had only one rvs post #10 in the game


what do you think about that?

For the third time, I accused you of lurking, not being scum. Here is PROOF:

Metal Sonic is seriously bothering me. He jumps on the early wagon and then

doesn't even bother to say anything after.

So we're settled! Lynch KillerApple and vig Metal Sonic. Best wedding ever.

sounds good


Best Wedding ever.



VOTE: KillerApple

You already voted for me. You don't even take the time to read your own posts, let alone anyone else's. This whole time all you've done is say that people who vote for you are stupid (which is a stupid thing to say itself).

Everyone on my wagon has voted me for mostly the same reasons (because of "obvious" scum posts).

Eh, wrong


I voted you because you were a dick.

No regard for my alignment whatsoever. Plus you're contradicting yourself, too. This is so completely scummy.

fucking stupid scum wagon

4 votes in 10 pages

Again, no reads or helpful discussion or anything like that. Small posts with little content that only address the votes on you.

Then why was the scum killing him ever a possibility?

well the scum aint gonna kill this guy.

are you sleepy?

Your question is stupid and your vote is bad. You should feel stupid and bad.

Once again, it looks like you don't even know what you're saying. You said that scum aren't going to kill me, implying that I'm town. You even said in the post that you believed I was a VT. Then Amrun asks if you think I'm town, to which you replied with no (contradiction). Amrun then asks why scum killing me was ever a possibility if I were scum. You respond with circular reasoning by using a quote that implied I was town. This is the scummiest thing in the world.

I really don't think you need any more proof than this. MS tries to cover up his mistakes with ad hom and doesn't even know what the hell he's saying. If he's not scum, the Others can take me.

@Tierce- Holy shit. Not to buddy up or anything, but I think you know me better than I know myself. How confident are you that Nacho is anti? And btw, you're wrong about Amrun. She is definitely town.

[KillerApple]

MS, you could at least

try

to defend yourself. Your response to anyone who votes for you is that you automatically think they're scum. That's ridiculous.

Generic, help us lynch MS. I gave you that explanation you wanted.

[KillerApple]

Before that you said I was scum. Now you're saying that I'm a stupid townie. Why would you want to lynch a townie? Just because someone is voting for you doesn't automatically make them stupid. I clearly gave my reasons for you being scum in post 439, and you haven't addressed anything other than saying, "That's stupid. You're stupid. blablabla stupid scum wagon."

[KillerApple]

Ugh. MS isn't totally cleared yet, but that was a town move no matter how stupid you think it was. He probably is a dayvig and realized he would have to do something before he got lynched. At least he showed us his reason before he did it. It did look a little opportunistic, despite both wagons looking like scum. Besides, I looked at some other games, and MS plays like this all the time. So it looks like I'm just going to have to deal with it.

UNVOTE: Unvote

Anyway, Tierce, I think I see where you're coming from. I didn't even notice it before because I was relieved that he unvoted, but that was a quick transition. Too quick. It looks like he wanted to hop on the wagon, but decided it would make him look more town if he hopped off. I don't know how he usually plays, but I think he would be doing a little more scumhunting if he were town, instead of just showing up every once in awhile to make evasive votes. The vote on Dekes, for example, is not helping anyone. It really kills me to do this

VOTE: Nacho

[KillerApple]

@Generic- Yup. It's his IDGAF attitude that really makes me believe his dayvig claim. Kind of like "you can call me scum, but I'll one-shot you if I want." Does it bother me? Yes. But, I'm 90% sure he's being truthful. Besides, that would be a pretty risky gambit for a regular VT. His lynch was mostly a PL for lurking and not helping out with anything. But then I realized I had so much confirmation bias going on. I was looking for reasons to call him scum instead of considering he could be town. But yeah, I believe it.

[KillerApple]

If he tries to undayvig I'm putting my vote back on.

[KillerApple]

Screw it. I want MS dead.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Metal Sonic

[KillerApple]

Ank, why not vote for MS then? I know you still have your vote on me, but at least I tried to stop being a VI and help unlike MS.

@macmollie- Not completed games. He's in a few other games right now, and he has the same crappy attitude. I want a PL on him.

[KillerApple]

You caught me, mollie. But seriously, you should vote for Sonic. He's about to get lynched anyway. In one of his games he didn't even read a whole day phase, and said he didn't care. That has nothing to do with alignment, it's just bad play. I hopped off and jumped back on because I realized we would get information from his lynch, and there's no other option except me. But you know, if you wanna vote for me that's cool too.

[KillerApple]

Well when you said that I lied about looking at his posts, I had to give an example. And why is it so bad that I changed my opinion? Thought he was scum and now I'm thinking annoying town. If I wanted to save my own ass I could've just lurked hardcore this game.

[KillerApple]

Didn't know that was against the rules. I should lynch myself out of humiliation.