The Red Wedding - The Goose is Loose

[Metal Sonic]

can't we just have a peaceful wedding

VOTE: cdb


what an uncouth name, probably not on the waiting list

[Metal Sonic]

Posting on phone

The Apple guy just called me scum when I had only 1 post at rvs? How does that even happen

VOTE: killerapple

[Metal Sonic]

Btw I finished all 9 pages yeah I'm up to scratch

[Metal Sonic]

Who's that nut job that accuses the guy with 2 posts to be scum?

[Metal Sonic]

if I remember correctly, town MS is a lurksack but I have never seen him hide from accusations behind the number of his posts. but I may have to dig a little deeper into this. if I can be bothered

He's a lurk sack as scum too. In nightless when I started suspecting him for ignoring the game, he let me know the only thing I was suspecting him for was lurking and that it wasn't valid or something, can't remember the specifics, but I do know I got a healthy dose of omgus for suspecting him when he was scum.

????

i dont have scum meta you dolt

[Metal Sonic]

unless you meant another person


else we must kick this girl for lying

[Metal Sonic]

unless you meant another person


else we must kick this girl for lying

I MEAN HUMAN DESTROYER.



I correctly read you as town that game, but you guys were defending human destroyer.

Have I mentioned I've barely slept in over a week?

Retract that last post.

Okay then that makes me go Though. I remember you being more active and giving thoughts in that game, how come nothing here?

oh hi tammy

how was that relevant HD is not in this game?

[Metal Sonic]

#335


the girl's mad


girls always post long walls of text when they're mad


but <3 <3 anyways

[Metal Sonic]

lmao its ok

lets have a fun chat

KillerApple is either scum or nutters, he called me "scummy"(not lurking, but SCUMMY) when i had only one rvs post #10 in the game


what do you think about that?

[Metal Sonic]

Nacho is town. Sonic is still scum, but not as much as Generic.

All 3 of his posts give me bad vibes.

Metal Sonic is seriously bothering me. He jumps on the early wagon and then doesn't even bother to say anything after. But because of this he is probably town.

can't we just have a peaceful wedding

VOTE: cdb


what an uncouth name, probably not on the waiting list

^ all when i was not looking at the thread

[Metal Sonic]

It bothers me that Metal Sonic hasn't said anything, but it's hard for me to get anything besides a null read when he only has 1 post.

what do you think about that

no surprise he's getting wagoned
sheesh total scatterbrain

[Metal Sonic]

<3 tammy is a cutie



lets drink some wine provided FoC by andy

[Metal Sonic]

Venmar's a great candidate.

[Metal Sonic]

oh damn i realised your name is really bad


but nice avatar

[Metal Sonic]

So we're settled! Lynch KillerApple and vig Metal Sonic. Best wedding ever.

sounds good


Best Wedding ever.



VOTE: KillerApple

[Metal Sonic]

no

go away murderous apple

into the trash you go

[Metal Sonic]

Everyone on my wagon has voted me for mostly the same reasons (because of "obvious" scum posts).

Eh, wrong


I voted you because you were a dick.

[Metal Sonic]

Yes, fuck this shit.

Those 2 need to be kicked in the ass for stupidity/scumminess

[Metal Sonic]

well you can certainly agree that KA is idiotic y/n?

[Metal Sonic]

well the scum aint gonna kill this guy.

And he's sure to fuck us over at LYLO or any similar equivalent

and unless the Vig is a multi-night shooter, he would waste his one-time-shot by shooting KA who appears to be VT

so lynch the dumbass

[Metal Sonic]

I don't think he's town


but even if he is he cant be staying at our wedding no no

[Metal Sonic]

well the scum aint gonna kill this guy.

are you sleepy?

[Metal Sonic]

I chose the rotten apple and I didn't like it



no i choose the town life 100% of the time go away rottenapple

[Metal Sonic]

fucking stupid scum wagon

4 votes in 10 pages

[Metal Sonic]

Then why was the scum killing him ever a possibility?

well the scum aint gonna kill this guy.

are you sleepy?

Your question is stupid and your vote is bad. You should feel stupid and bad.

[Metal Sonic]

Fuck this.

UNVOTE: KillerApple
VOTE: Metal Sonic

At least

pretend

to give even the most fleeting shit about other people's alignments. Arrogantly bleating on about how every vote on you has exposed the voter as scum is helping the town in precisely zero ways.

I challenge you to make a post of 50 words or more in which you do not once mention (even obliquely) any votes on you.

Dear channeldelibird

delibird is one of the worst pokemon in the pokemon games, competitively or otherwise. all of its base stats are horrible and its 4x weakness to stealth rock renders it competitively unviable. additionally, your avatar depicts a poliwag which although is more useful when battling in-game or with other unevolved pokemon, on a whole it is still inferior to other evolved pokemon such as gengar, infernape and even simisage.


hot damn that was more than 50 words

try harder

[Metal Sonic]

oh man the killer apple ninja'd me

dumb talking apple

i can't believe i even read his wall of bullshit ugh

i should have stopped at "lets"

[Metal Sonic]

oh wait it wasnt a ninja

i just entirely skipped the apple's wall the first time

oh ha

[Metal Sonic]

yes amrun talking cock and running an insta-wagon against me is a cause for suspect


need others opinions

[Metal Sonic]

why does your vote make me feel anxious


i must be sleepy

fuck off scum

nacho/tammy pls help me scum is too powerful

[Metal Sonic]

you should die




crazy old coot

[Metal Sonic]

* I think they're stupid too

some are stupid some are scum

you are definitely stupid, amrun is 3/4 scum 1/4 stupid


oh hey

[Metal Sonic]

fuck off scum what the hell 10 post wagon builds up with a+ idiot sheepers

[Metal Sonic]

Oh yes I should totally put in more effort because this is an Andy game


ok lets hunt scum

VoteCount

KillerApple [7] - Ankamius,

Amrun

, xReckonerx, Venmar,

Generic

, Metal Sonic,

ChannelDelibird

Venmar [3] - Tierce, Dekes, KillerApple
Tierce [1] - AurorusVox
Dekes [1] - Nachomamma8
Nachomamma8 [1] - tsunami
Metal Sonic [1] - macmollie

Not Voting [3] - Nexus, BROseidon, Tamuz,

With 17 alive it takes 9 to lynch.

Deadline will be July 6th 2013, 4:00pm PST.

.

Watch the language people.

VoteCount

Metal Sonic [6] -

Amrun

, macmollie, KillerApple, AurorusVox,

ChannelDelibird

,

Generic

KillerApple [3] - Ankamius, xReckonerx, Metal Sonic
Venmar [2] - Tierce, Dekes
Dekes [1] - Nachomamma8
Nachomamma8 [1] - tsunami

Not Voting [4] - Nexus, BROseidon, Tamuz, Venmar

With 17 alive it takes 9 to lynch.

Deadline will be July 6th 2013, 4:00pm PST.

Super wagon jumper = easy mislynch pusher = scum




Amrun, claim and reads on all players please

[Metal Sonic]

or you will die

[Metal Sonic]

actually fuck this

Daykill:Amrun

if you are town, final reads on everyone

if you're scum gg

[Metal Sonic]

lets carry on with our business while amrun decides what the shit to do

i think tierce is town at this moment ^_^

so is tsunami and nacho and nexus <3

[Metal Sonic]

because the dayvig is totally scum

how dense is that

[Metal Sonic]

what a cockhead^

[Metal Sonic]

well amrun had better post it before the mod helps me cut andrius neck

if he posts in time maybe i will undayvig

i think

[Metal Sonic]

if he afks and ignores this like a scum then i will let him be slain


or just vote the fucker and save my 1time

[Metal Sonic]

fucker

scum

[Metal Sonic]

primarily i am making myself helpful in respect for the mod

<3 Andy sorry for my bad behaviour earlier I'll make it up by scumhunting okay!~~!




and to town: read my VCA at page 19

[Metal Sonic]

WHY ISNT THE FUCKING IDIOT AMRUN DEAD??????????????

didnt my kill go through holy shit

[Metal Sonic]

WHAAAAAAAT THEEE FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF









I WAS SUPPOSED TO PM IT TO ANDY.....

but posting Dayvig:<scum> is just so cool.......

i just revealed my role to everyone what the fucking fuck for fuck

[Metal Sonic]

there is no rule against lurking

just go away

[Metal Sonic]

Sonic

Why does the vote come down in 354 when you already have your vote on apple? Did you forget your vote existed or something?

CONFIRM VOTE

401: Explain to me how KA was being a dick, I don’t see it.

METAL SONIC IS DEFINITELY SCUM! -- Metal Sonic has 1 post.

407, Does your second line sill stand? Because I’m not gonna fuck you over.

Not anymore

409: But “who appears to be VT” means you are pretty damn sure he’s town. What changed your mind in literally ONE POST?!?

I was gonna back off sooner or later

486 BACK THE FUCK UP why isn’t KA red in your “VCA” when you’re fucking voting apple?

the VCA meant to highlight the supreme wagon hoppers = those in red. KA didnt "super wagon hop" and thus is not in red. and I will back off on him scum for now, especially with <3 Cabd here

UNVOTE: Cabd

VOTE: Generic


Amrun gets a free pass today because he provided reads

I have only 1 shot, unless wagon doesnt go through or if lynch on me going through I will

kill Generic

Extra scummy scumtells and the way he discredited me as being "fake" is totally scummy, not to mention rude


i'll provide a case <some time soon>(damn long essays)

but iso generic please

[Metal Sonic]

more specifically he claimed he was a scumhunter or something at the start of his posts


but later just sits "out of the game" and provides mr captain obvious comments like to seem contributing but actually doing jack shit

also he was a super wagon jumper = hopping on easiest wagons Me and KA. super mislynch maker much?


For these reasons I am reading KA town now and Cabd is going to be more helpful that KA regardless of his alignment so anyway...

[Metal Sonic]

If you really are a day vig, you might want to actually scumhunting rather than vendetta hunt. You are useless to the town throwing attitude around and

threatening to kill everyone who suspects you.

That's why I think you are scum. You have yet to prove me wrong.

What a blatant misrep. I threaten to kill those who hop on KA who I currently retroactively believe is a easy VT mislynch and then now hop on me who is currently for the record at the moment a easy dayvig mislynch
I'm gonna shoot you mothafuka you haven't even scumhunted much at all I looked at your iso and you don't want me to make a case against you because you are going to die by rope

oh wait that was contradictory. "shoot" and "eat rope". ha!

Bottomline is: You're going down. Scum.



Here's a question for you: Why did you get on the KA wagon initially? Is it "just a coincidence" that it was the easiest lynch at that point in time?(rhetorical question, do not answer)

[Metal Sonic]

HOLY SHIT I JUST READ MY OWN #483 AND REALISED I WROTE "ANDRIUS" INSTEAD OF AMRUN






OHHHHHHHH MY GOD MY POSTS REALLY ARE LACKING OF CONTENT I AM SO SORRY CDB I CAUSED YOU MUCH GRIEF

[Metal Sonic]

"merits" as explained by other players which you promptly sheeped?

[Metal Sonic]

^so is lazy MS

except Ms is lazy more of the time than Venmar


also mollie, I have a 3rd completed game that you missed, i flipped town

nobody should ever read it if they have a weak heart

if you are already calling me scum and get pissed off at this stage already then you really should never read that, you will die of a heart attack

mollie its called: Mainstream Mafia

if you think this game was "insulting" then that game will be a horror movie/SAW


will make my wall on generic tomorrow when I get time to slack off

it takes like an hour to two so yeah

[Metal Sonic]

you know I can just shoot you just to prove I am right, right?

dont be pushy now

[Metal Sonic]

I see

genuine mafia play

going in finally, all without the need to swear and bully the other person into submission.

I'm sorry that one pinged me I read "scum play"

I'll go on with my "genuine mafia play"

[Metal Sonic]

^so is lazy MS

except Ms is lazy more of the time than Venmar

also mollie, I have a 3rd completed game that you missed, i flipped town

nobody should ever read it if they have a weak heart

if you are already calling me scum and get pissed off at this stage already then you really should never read that, you will die of a heart attack

mollie its called: Mainstream Mafia

if you think this game was "insulting" then that game will be a horror movie/SAW

will make my wall on generic tomorrow when I get time to slack off

it takes like an hour to two so yeah

hey dummy, I am not pissed at all you fucking tard if you read the goddamn thread I have been saying that I could see you being town. stop being a pansy-assed drama queen and pay attention plz.

I don't remember you at all in mainstream prolly cos I completely gave up on d1 when town would not lynch scummy as fuck jason. any other site I play he would have been lynched in 5 minutes his timing is always like the worst thing ever but then no one on this site even knows what the fuck I am talking about when I say "timing". besides we were culted n1 so then I was really not that interested and made majiffy do all the work.

if you are town I suggest you start working towards your wc and try to work with your town reads. your 1 man lone ranger act is just making people want to lynch you and generating a bunch of noise. and I am not sure anyone is buying your day vig claim personally I think you are full of shit and you will have to use it in this day round or you will be nked cos if anybody wastes a doc protect on you I will personally beat the crap out of them.

hth

I was referring to the losers that get pissed so easily aka: CDB, Generic etc

they should not read it they will get a heart attack

mollie its a horror movie

[Metal Sonic]

I believe that Generic is scum. This is because he posts multiple fluff, sheeps onto the easiest wagons, and provides minimal to the scumhunt.
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Generic is scum because he has an extremely large amount of fluff posts. Fluff posts are scummy because they make the user seem like contributing when they are actually providing nothing new or of value to the discussion, therefore not actually contributing.

A handful. Why does it make you unvote? We've kept a lot more.

They were unrelated incidents. I had voted for fun, I pulled it ready for my next vote to be for more legitimate reasons. Nothing more.

This post is created during the RVS voting period. "Voted for fun" implies that Generic made his previous vote and unvote on Nacho as a random RVS votes. This is significant as it informs us that Generic is not very eager to scumhunt and is more content with staying in RVS which does not benefit the town.

And ain't I the popular one :p

A down day and I now am lead wagon

This post is created when Generic had received multiple votes on him due to his previous post as above. "A down day and I now am lead wagon " suggests that Generic is "happy" to be a lead wagon. However, this is impossible as a reaction coming from town, as town would not be happy to get wagoned Day 1. The excessive use of smiley in the post imply that Generic is indeed nervous and worried due to the wagon, and his attempt to brush it off or not to seem affected by the excessive use of "happy" smilies only seeks to prove this further. Generic is extremely nervous and anxious and his attempt to hide this suggests that he is the scum. It is good to note that Generic rarely uses smileys in any point of this game, and this is one of the only unusual occurances.

Tierce has picked up on something I hadn't noticed actually about apple, in that the explaining away of how he is perceived came from no actual need to explain anything. It was more a paranoia of being perceived as scummy and an explanation back to being town through it.

Apple, right now who are your top three suspects for mafia?

This post is scummy because Generic attempts to pass off a scumread on Apple without contributing anything in particular. "Tierce has picked up on something I hadn't noticed about apple" suggests that Generic is attempting to view apple as scum, just purely by using Tierce's logic, also known as sheeping. This implies that Generic wishes to find an excuse to place a vote on KA, the easiest lynch at that time, while not contributing any views of his own. Additionally, the following statements as "justification" for his "scumread" is extremely vague and generic, which seems like a quick and fast way to contribute his "justification" on his following KillerApple vote when in actuality not contributing.

Additionally, he goes on with an extremely redundant and easy-to-make question which goes "who are your top three suspects for mafia?" This question to the current wagon-at-hand is contentless and easy to generate. It can clearly be seen that Generic did not put any thought at all into his question to KA, which shows that Generic was posting fluff. His attempt to make it sound like a question implies that Generic is trying to appear to contribute, however in actuality his contributions are contentless.

Generic is scum because he posts mainly fluff which serves as him pretending to contribute.

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Generic is scum because he sheeps the easiest wagons simply by relying on the cases that others make. He adds his vote to any wagon which forms traction and hopefully results in a mislynch for him. He never actually provides cases or justification for his votes but actually goes "hey this case is good lets follow it" or "hey a is right lets vote him!", which is a scum who is very willing to mislynch.

The additional case reckoner has begun to poke apple with is even more concerning. I'm not encouraged by apples responses to what seem decent points. And post 150 is a hand waving away of it without looking like he is reacting in a negative way to a momentum gaining wagon.

vote killerapple

You seem to be attempting to hold a measure of control under pressure but you aren't effectively answering the points raised against you, it's vague and dismissive.

This post is said when Generic puts his vote onto KA who is the easiest lynch at that time. "The additional case reckoner has begun to poke apple with" implies that Generic is merely riding on the cases provided by others against KA and is blindly or purposely following their vote on what seems to be an easy mislynch. This shows that KA is extremely opportunistic and is only willing to lynch a player when his wagon has gained enough traction. Furthermore, this is very significant as it shows Generic is unable to come up with his own reads or justification for his votes and instead has to rely on the cases of others "reckoner's case... Tierce's case..." in order to vote.

Hey, Generic.

The town hunting comment for example, declaring someone town without basis is a combination of arrogance and not having a proper case to base such a declaration on, yet you were fine with this as game progression. I am feeling there is a sense of misguidedness but the concern I have on the gut read is are you trying to back up a teammate?

Oi.

Have mercy on the non-native, my English curled up in horror halfway through this. Can you rephrase it?

UNVOTE: Nachomamma8
VOTE: Venmar

Amrun--what games have you played with Nacho before?

What do you want from me? If someone just says "player Xis town" and doesn't given any reason why I find it cockiness/arrogance/self sure on a high scale. It's like saying they don't need to say anymore be ause it should be obvious, but that hides potentially having no case at all for it and the only reason to be able to say it is they already know who is town... And only one type of player knows that for certain.

This post is scummy because Generic refuses to provide his reads or opinion on "player X is town". "What do you want from me?" implies that Generic is absolutely unable to come up with reasons whatsoever to protect his views or his stance, and requires additional prompting before being able to do so. This shows that Generic is confused on what is expected of him and how he needs to act in order to not get questioned again. This post is very significant because town would have been able to give reasons or a defense immediately and straight away, and should be a natural reaction. However, Generic does not even know how to react in a townish manner, and thus has to narrow down his response or be asked a specific question so that he can tailor his response in order to look "towny".

Apologies for this lazy request, but since I've been a bit out of the loop over the weekend, can someone briefly summarise the case against metal sonic?

It appears to have some momentum and I'm intrigued as to why.

Otherwise when I have time later I will Iso his posts and see for myself.

I'm here, sorry I was reading through your very good case for metal. I was about to post a larger reasoning behind this but then I read metals responses and thought'he ain't bothering, why should I?'

unvote,
Vote:metal sonic

A good point was raised about apple, after that very dodgy set of posts he kept clearly scumhunting in the middle of that wagon on him. Much more pro town attitude, and metal seems to think he can coast abusively and offer nothing to the hunt.

These posts are

very

scummy because Generic is very interested in the newest wagon on Metal Sonic and is very eager to see a "case on him" so as to sheep it and say that "his case is very good". "It appears to have some momentum and I'm intrigued as to why" implies that Generic is very interested solely on the momentum or traction on another player's wagon, amongst all things. This shows that Generic is very opportunistic as he looks at a player's votecount to determine if it is a good lynch, instead of their actions. Furthermore, this shows that he has not been reading the game. "Can someone briefly summarise the case" implies that Generic is not willing to read or create his own opinion on metal sonic, however instead wishes to look at another player's opinion and agree wholeheartedly with it. This is shown in the next post "sorry but I was reading your very good case for metal", which is very significant because it tells us that Generic is absolutely not interested in reading metal sonic at all, and he does not explicitly point out anything spectacular or significant detail about the case at all which he "agrees with", instead just being vague and generic with "that very good case". In such circumstances, there is no evidence to show that Generic even read the case at all, and it could have been possible that he skimmed the wall of text and proclaimed it "very good", as it does not show any content knowledge of the said "case".

The extremely scummy point of Generic's post is "I was about to post larger reasoning against metal sonic" "why should I?". Generic is following consistent behaviour which is calling a case on a player with a large wagon "very good" and voting them, without providing any reasoning AT ALL as to his vote. He is incapable of contributing to the town and it can be seen that he is not interested in the players' actions at all, and is only interested in the traction of their wagon.

Generic is scum because he sheeps on the easiest wagons possible, coasts on the cases other players have made while there is circumstancial evidence to show that he did not read them at all, and also refuses to justify his votes and reasoning at all.

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Generic is scum because he does not contribute to scumhunting at all. He is not interested in lynching scum in the game, which is an extremely large scumtell because scum are his friends.

Actually Generic, I thought about it and BROseidon is town. 80% of the time when people post scummy things D1 they are town. And my D1 reads are usually off for scum. Currently scanning to see who is deserving of a vote. It amazes me how town you are though.

It is a good point you make about town seeming scummier day 1, Town players are less interested in loose comments in posts as their mind is on the scum hunt, so I see a logic there.
But your flip flopping opinions are not only here to decipher but also aren't helping your defence. Just when I think you might be explaining something you almost have a mini implosion and one out with something that isn't in line with the things you said recently before.

And if the last bit of that paragraph was aimed at me I'm not sure if that was a compliment or shock :p

This post is scummy because Generic provides vague and irrelevant opinions which does not specifically correspond to any player in the game. "I have theorised a good scum player will always be more pro town in early gameplay than a stage townies." implies that Generic has scumhunting methods of his own and he shows them to pretend to contribute. However, he is not being specific on any player and is just saying it for the sake of saying it. This shows that Generic is unwilling to provide opinions or reads on the players in the game, which is scummy because it will incriminate his hypothetical teammates.

wait

did my two scummies and join date two years prior to you fool you?

I'm not offended at all -- it's a valid question, though way off base. I'm not new to mafia in the slightest, though I don't pretend to be t3h best player evar.

More likely, you are new to MS meta, because the townhunting comment is pretty straightforward and common.

Full town cases are, in fact, terrible, and that's also a pretty standard opinion. Many people here actually believe that sharing townreads at all is something you shouldn't do.

So I return the question to you: how new to mafia games are YOU?

If you see my join date you will understand how much my knowledge of mafiascum is lacking :p

I'm not new to mafia at all, just dot hints slightly differently to you guys I guess. I like to scum read rather than town read, so I look for the worst in people rather than the best in them.

Your veteran status then bothers me that you have been as loose with your comments, but then again your lack of caring how you come across feels more genuine than some. You are 50:50.

This post was a reply to Amrun regarding Generic's their experience in mafia. "I like to scum read rather than town read, so I look for the worst in people rather than the best in them." implies that Generic is better at scumreading players rather than townreading them. However, this is contradictory as Generic has never provided any "scumreads" of his own at any point of the game, barring "this case is very good". At no point of the game does Generic post his reads on any player at all, despite him posting a multitude of theory such as "A good mafia player can look more town than a bad town player can scumslip if that makes sense." Going by his theories which he has outlined in thread, it would make sense that Generic would garner a scumread or two of his own. Despite this, he always asks for the "cases" on the easiest wagons and goes "I agree with this case". This is unnatural; Generic has shown knowledge on how to scumread yet does not do it. Instead of "I voted because think this player is scummy because of x,y, and z", which can be based off upon his many theories described in-thread, he goes "I voted because the case on him is good". This is not the way a town player will act, and the fact that he is not providing reads even though he is fully capable of doing so only proves one thing: He is refusing to provide reads. This is significant as it means that Generic is actively reluctant to help the town hunt scum while "pretending to be helpful", which cannot possibly in a town mindset. By not providing reads, Generic is working towards his hypothetical scum wincon and does not wish to incriminate his hypothetical teammates.


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In conclusion, Generic is definitely the scum due to his large amount of fluff posting, which makes him seem like a contributor without actually doing so, his mindless sheeping of large wagons, where he is most interested on the traction of the wagon and less on providing reads on the players, and not contributing to an active scumhunt, where it can be seen that Generic never provides any scum or townreads at all during the game and actively reluctant to help the town despite being aware of how to do so.

[Metal Sonic]

2669 words. minus quotes its 1.5k i guess

i took 1 and half hours to write this complete detailed analysis which is for AP Literature and I get A for my essays all the time


Generic is definitely the scum after doing this thorough analysis and all you town players must vote him

[Metal Sonic]

mollie

it does not end the day round,

and i did not say my character name at all so you did not miss anything

read my essay and vote generic

[Metal Sonic]

Holy shit I am not reading walls

ok then, dont read my essay and still vote generic

mollie, if lynch on generic does not go through i will have to shoot him but that will waste my shot

my name is metal sonic

[Metal Sonic]

just copy and paste and press submit

Code: Select all

[vote]Generic[/vote]

here i done it for you

[Metal Sonic]

because generic is scum as fuck

[Metal Sonic]

if you want to know why just read the fucking wall

or just the intro and conclusion

but you probably dont want to know why anyway

[Metal Sonic]

i have been concise all game until the scumgeneric asked me for an analysis

pls wait i'll give you a concise one

[Metal Sonic]

I believe that Generic is scum. This is because he posts multiple fluff, sheeps onto the easiest wagons, and provides minimal to the scumhunt.


In conclusion, Generic is definitely the scum due to his large amount of fluff posting, which makes him seem like a contributor without actually doing so, his mindless sheeping of large wagons, where he is most interested on the traction of the wagon and less on providing reads on the players, and not contributing to an active scumhunt, where it can be seen that Generic never provides any scum or townreads at all during the game and actively reluctant to help the town despite being aware of how to do so.




guys #735

[Metal Sonic]

guys #735 for long wall against generic

#754 for short wall against generic

pls vote the scum

[Metal Sonic]

um so?

[Metal Sonic]

i did not mean to claim, it was accidental

now that its out i dont want to excaberate it further

[Metal Sonic]

ok

while you are being totally obstinate

go read the mainstream game


i appeal to the other players to vote generic

[Metal Sonic]

tammy please read my #735 or #754

and vote generic

[Metal Sonic]

oooh i love tammy <3

[Metal Sonic]

Oh yes! Generic is here! Lets watch him flail against my unbreakable argument where some points cannot be argued against and if he does, it will make him even more scummier!


oh and I retract my vig claim

[Metal Sonic]

#48 Ok, onto the point about not being upset at being wagoned.
I wasnt happy, i was comfortable that the votes and the cases attached to them were weak. It was only 2 or 3 votes on me in a game needing something like 9 votes to be lynched, why go off and argue with people acccusing them all of being scum because their early weak voting happened to be for me when i wasnt around?
i mean, you wouldnt attack every person who voted for you would you MS?....oh, wait a second, yeah, i see why you think this should be read as scummy because it in turn excuses your reactions.

Your attack on me is not needed here. Attack the points and not the player. The fact that you are trying to redirect attention only proves more of your guilt.

#140 I comments on tierce's find because i hadnt spotted it. You want people to vote for me based on the supposed evidence you have found against me, yet one of your arguements against me is to say only mafia would use another persons logic for voting... that would mean you dont want anyone to vote for me based on your case. And you know thats bullshit.
As for redundant comments, you have filled the majority of your game with insulting people and calling people scum without any reasons attached to them. At least by asking questions its encouraging posting on topic.

Asking useless questions is pretending to be on topic. Only scum would do that. The difference between me and you: I actually admit that I type bullshit. You? All you do is pretend to be the town... just like what the scum would do.

#168 - You can spin it whichever way you like, i said i would vote for legitimate reasons, i gave reasons for voting. I believe you assumed KA to be scum too, although you would have just tossed a vote at them amongst a pile of expletives.

Flail more.

#235 - No, actually i was not sure what was being asked of me as the post i was asked to rephrase made sense as it was. The player X comment was a generalised example because specifics didnt actually matter to the point. You add an awful lot of conjecture here, basing it simply on how he expects a person to react very specificaslly.
In other words, trying to make the analysis fit the conclusion he is aiming to get.

Flail more. Its universally known that "What do you want from me?" is a scumtell in itself. A townie will know what is expected of him, and will give either a generic answer or misinterpret the question. You? You need to get a specific question so that you can tailor your response accordingly. Scum.

ABout your wagon - You contradict yourself, because if im supposedly jumping on the easiest lynch each time, why would i question the wagon at all? It was very fast so i wanted to find out why it had come about so fast, either it was a scum push or it had merits that i wanted to assess myself.
Killer Apple provided a very good arguement about you and i made my decision on that.

"Give me a case so I can sheep it"

#253 - KA was the first to theorise it and i commented on that, yet you are using this against me and not KA. Hypocricy aside, i dont particularly care about crafting every one of my post to be both on topic and

actively seeking scum

, im playing a game.
Hell, 90% of your posts in this game so far have been off topic filler just to antagonise or reactive posts showing you have emotive responses to things before you actually engage your brain. Yet you are trying to build a case against me on the few moments i actually chose to be non specific. pathetic.

Thanks for not scumhunting but pretending to scumhunt! We understand that you are trying hard to be an impostor of the town and are trying to kill us yep! Also flail more. You have nothing to say, so you redirect attention onto me. Weak.

#80 - Everytime i have returned to this i have found good cases already raised, or am defending a point made against me or answering a question asked to me. I have placed votes when i see reason to and have reassessed when needed to.

Prove otherwise. If anybody here reads your iso they will find out that you have never posted scumreads or townread on

ANY PLAYER IN THE GAME.

Conclusion:
Your entire case against me hinges on occasions where i have been apparently posting filler (see metal sonics posts 229, 331, 339, 346, 350, 356, 411, 413.... the list goes on)

False. It hinges on you pretending to help when actually doing jack shit.

For asking questions like who are someone elses scum reads (see MS posts 341, 343, 405,

False. You don't even come up with your own scumreads.

For voting on the logic of others (see MS posts 354)

True. He provides absolutely no justification or opinion for his votes whatsoever. I vote KA because he is "a nutjob". Generic? He votes Ka AND me because "Hey that case is good!"

And then finally to something of MS that stands out as completely anti town. Post 409.

Doesnt think someone is town, but EVEN IF THEY ARE they cant be staying at the wedding. So he wants to get rid of people even if they are town.

Your entire case against me is exactly the same as your game, with the only difference being i have done far less filler posts and i am not adding into that anti town behaviour like you are.

[Metal Sonic]

your defense is inadequate. I've already warned you that my analysis will bash you up into pieces.

and thanks to the lack of logical responses to me, aka something to talk about without looking stupid, he attacks me with what we can see are unconvincing and weak points.

Look at this guy

join the easiest wagons in the game, sheep others points and not provide any reasons for his reads

, and worst of all

pretend to contribute

oh mannnnnn scum

[Metal Sonic]

what venmar or dekes point

how are those related

I am talking about

you

, and you wonderfully redirect attention to me, and now some arguably "scummy " players(cases that others have provided, once again)?

really mr scum when I tell you to answer about a you don't say b c or d

not only do you get a fail but also look very stupid

[Metal Sonic]

regarding the "only person voting you" thing,

I can only assume the other players haven't read my wall yet. its been less than 24 hours.

[Metal Sonic]

and mr generic

unlike you

I don't

pretend

to be helpful. I'm honest.

You're not.

and that's where the scum play comes in

[Metal Sonic]

How is it not relevant. Your whole case is based on supposed scum tells. But you only see them in my play, ignoring more blatant versions of these supposed tells in others.

And you keep claiming both votes were for easy wagons. Have either ended in lunch? Can't be that easy then. Or do you mean wagons on obviously scummy people... That would be you then.

I see them in others' play too. But firstly, the case is not on them. Secondly, they didn't exhibit all the scumtells that you did. lastly, you are fucking redirecting attention again.

I suppose that cant be helped, my logic is unbreakable anyway. I'll take it that all my points are valid then.

So now you want to redirect attention away by attacking me and other players. I'd paint you into a corner because I may feel vengeful, and you brought this upon yourself, but I'd like to see where this goes.

Come. Post the "scumreads" that you never did.

[Metal Sonic]

Oh yes! Generic is here! Lets watch him flail against my unbreakable argument where some points cannot be argued against and if he does, it will make him even more scummier!


oh and I retract my vig claim

Typical scum tactic to try and paint me into a corner.

scrub cry more

[Metal Sonic]

f5 spam because Generic cannot defend himself against my onslaught like a caught scummie and has to redirect attention onto someone else who may/may not be his partners



if this was 1 mafia team I can find his partners easily,

but its probably multiball so I wont even try

[Metal Sonic]

And you keep on with the onslaught in the hope to force it through.

You have no case

or else you would let it stand on its own, but you are panicking cos it didn't get the reaction you wanted.

what a cock head

[Metal Sonic]

its already got the reaction I wanted, you crying like a baby


im just talking to you because you're here

[Metal Sonic]

You both may well be scum, but I'm not for a second buying "oh I don't remember why I said he was frustrated" because it's scummy.

It's scummy because when town players say things, they usually have conviction/reasoning behind what they say. But when scum players post, many times they fill their post with hot air or force reads that they don't actually believe (because they already know who is scum and who isn't) and those "forced reads" are accompanied by flowery adjectives that are empty and vapid.

You're

scumscumscumscumscumscum

.

Point A: Disproven.

lets look for evidence against point B and C so you can poop in the potty

[Metal Sonic]

You're tunneling just as hard on Nexus, with far less reason. Nexus is far less relevant to the game state right now.

- How am I tunneling what the fuck is this, i've barely been on Nexus so far and i'm already tunneling?! FUCK YOU, you're tunneling Metal Sonic so hard I think you might have your forehead super glued to his back and stapled a knife into your hand. You can go ahead and throw yourself off of my town list because I won't take this shit from you when you dare say my Nexus vote is without reason. You try to BS both me and yourself by saying you're not hotheaded,

I hate your vote because I think Metal Sonic is town, and because of the fact you are so butt hurt when people call him town that you block them out and just keep going forward, meaning you are without reason. You're hotheaded arrogance in this MS vote looks so blind without reason and full of rage that I think you're just driving yourself off a cliff and don't even know about it.

I told you I would reread for your benefit, that I would reconsider and to try to be reasonable AND WORK WITH YOU, instead you further attack me ( which makes no sense to me ) and decide not to give me a chance. You are mad because you were the center piece of his fakeclaim, don't deny it. Booho, go get a bandaid and compose yourself, reread what MS has done, and tell me without spitting out phlegm and spit at me in anger if you really still think he is scum.

Since you are so unwilling to read my Nexus reasoning, then why should I be willing to cooperate with you or read YOUR reasoning? THIS WORLD DOESN'T REVOLVE AROUND YOU PRINCESS-ALL-MIGHTY, WAKE UP FFS.

Just FYI... Read #483 and #484, they have very little if any scum motivation behind them imo, scum wouldn't try to "unvig" at that stage of the gambit, you don't do half-measures on gambits and is proof MS was terrible at executing it, and I think this is town gambit rather than scum gambit. I think MS had no scum motivation to make that gambit at that stage of the game when it was unneeded, I think it was town motivated, just terribly executed, aimed, and done.

Point B: disproven. Granted, his flipflopping is suspect, but then he already scumread on Amrun at the same point of time. Moving from your #1 scumread to your #2 scumread

IWTH JUSTIFICATION AND REASONS, OFCOURSE!!!!

is perfectly okay


you are perfectly not okay

[Metal Sonic]

generic scared because he thought he as scum would get shot in the face

there are 3 murderers. I have 1 bullet. would I shoot the one that is handcuffed and tied with rope or those which have free movement?

of course those that present a bigger threat

you aint a threat too easy to crush

[Metal Sonic]

you are caught scum. just admit your guilt and prepare for a quicklynch, so that you do not have to reveal any extra information about your teammates or whatever that can give us leads

if you claim not guilty I will need to press you until you break and as you can see you do not want that.


that's all for today

[Metal Sonic]

look at your join date and tell me

come on its your turn to insult me "you are pathetic" "you are newbie" "desperate man"

The hypocrisy of a scumhunter does not detract from the validity of his argument.

[Metal Sonic]

please vote generic he is scum so bad

tammy, nacho, even you cdb, nexus too

that guy needs to go

the scum needs to be lynched

if he flips VT I will eat my hat

he will flip scum because he is pinging 100% of the scumtells in the book. he doesn't even deny my accusations against him, just goes "but johnny is doing it too!"

I mean, if you stole the cookie from the cookie jar you are a thief and it it does not matter if johnny did it or not


lynch scum plx

[Metal Sonic]

if he flips scum we get amrun or ankamius for assoc tells

[Metal Sonic]

yes

so he better not flip scum

theres only one way to find out

[Metal Sonic]

EBWOP: so he better not flip scum

for you

[Metal Sonic]

You should

show your work

before making ridiculous claims.

another

cock head

scum^

you defending him is a big fat associative tell right there

and asking me to "show my work" like generic scum told me to


maaaan you must have [snip]

Oh man someone inspect/vig/roleblock this guy tonight

[Metal Sonic]

Cabd nacho and tammy pls vote generic and read my walls

[Metal Sonic]

generic really must get lynched

i am pushing so hard for a scum lynch now you never see me doing that do you

then again you saw that in xenoblade but no way this scum us living till lylo this time

[Metal Sonic]

Cabd yes.its me or him,im very sure

get generic

[Metal Sonic]

Amrun to generic's soft defense


once again cabd please put your vote on generic ,

tammy nacho nexus macmollie too anf we got a lynch

[Metal Sonic]

Amrun to generic's soft defense


once again cabd please put your vote on generic ,

tammy nacho nexus macmollie too anf we got a lynch

Soft defense my ass. You're scum and he is town. Calling you scum is not a soft defense of anyone at all, though, but thanks for making your scumminess more obvious kthxbye

Chainsaw defense. Yeah i identify the scumtell right this time


all town vote generic please he is scum scum scum

Of course in order to vote him they must read the thread first


if he flips scum lynch amrun i git thus game plan already

[Metal Sonic]

Bah I failed my " name the scumtell " again

but you get what I'm saying

will post again once any town read of mine is here

[Metal Sonic]

put your vote on generic

please

[Metal Sonic]

no

he is a scum and i am very sure of it

put your vote on generic

please

[Metal Sonic]

if you like andy pls vote generic

because i'm sure andy will facepalm if i get mislynched

over the scum which he was so glad that i found

[Metal Sonic]

Bah Bah Bah Bah Bah

[Metal Sonic]

Play like poop, don't get listened to, I deserve it! Great game all, GG scums. Thanks Andy!

^^^^^^^^^^^

Andy rocks

reck strong ending

Keep 'Em -
Tierce
Generic
tsunami
Nexus

rofl
lmao