Mini 1464 - Game Over

[pitoli]

Confirmmmmmmm

[pitoli]

Looks like we've lost some posts, which is unfortunate. As some of you may recall, mnemonicdevice had just voted for Zhero. Care to give us an explanation?

I assumed it was an omgus vote.

[pitoli]

I believe that question was directed towards mnemonicdevice, although looking over my phrasing I guess that was only implied instead of implicit.

Yeah I knew who it was directed towards. That was my interpretation of the action.

[pitoli]

At any rate, I would like to know why you assumed it was an OMGUS vote, but I don't want you to answer that until mnemonicdevice explains the real answer.

Faiiiiir enough.

Judging by the join date, Pitoli is more experienced than MD, if they are on the same scum team, it could be some type of coaching.

Unvote:
Vote: Pitoli

Soooooo let me get this straight. You looked at my join date to determine my alignment. Lol.
Nah really bro, tell me what your real reason is for speculating a me/md scumteam.
And what would I be hoping to communicate to mnemonic in my "coaching" posts?

[pitoli]

Yeah it was an observation, not really an accusation. I think OMGUS is in itself a null tell, everybody (town and scum) does it at some point.

[pitoli]

I believe Captain Corporal also asked a question about how much previous experience everyone has with forum mafia.

/inb4 I get more flak for "answering for somebody else" again

[pitoli]

Vote: Toomai

Scum trying to look like helpful townsperson, methinks.

I keep this stuff behind the curtains every game I do, and why would I make information more available as scum?

Unfortunately, you don't have any scum meta to back this up, so we would have to take you at your word that there are only town intentions for providing the chart.

[pitoli]

EBWODP: At least no scum meta on this site.

[pitoli]

I'm reading Haschel as town or anal retentive scum.

[pitoli]

I'm reading Haschel as town or anal retentive scum.

And which side do you think is more likely?

The latter part of my statement was kind of a joke. I'm leaning town.

[pitoli]

Vote stays on Toomai for now, but not loving mnemonicdevice or Zhero either.

Can you explain why?

[pitoli]

Vote stays on Toomai for now, but not loving mnemonicdevice or Zhero either.

Can you explain why?

Vote stays for previous reasons.

I felt mnemonic and Zhero were the worst contributors of RQS noise.

But Zhero didnt like the RQS either. Are you saying he was too noisy in objecting to RQS?

[pitoli]

At the moment I'm leaning towards a Pitoli + MD scum team. Pitoli moreso. In 41 Pitoli dismisses Monkey's vote fairly quickly and seems to take it far too seriously, especially considering it was on page 2. The whole answering for MD isn't a scumtell as such, but Pitoli's response just doesn't work. In #49 she quickly agrees with Monkey on the fact it was only an observation, then dismisses it as a null tell. Also the latter part of #50 half condemns anyone who calls her out on the fact she answers another question for someone. Answering the question isn't scummy, but fact she felt the need to add the last part of #50 in starts to ping the scumdar.

The second half of #50 wasn't condemning anybody who calls me out about answering questions "out of line" perse. I didn't condemn Haschel when he did it and I don't particularly care if others do it.

The "/inb4" was clearly meant to be a joke, but apparently you guys don't like my jokes, so maybe I'll cut it out.

[pitoli]

Captain

, I just realized I wasn't voting you due to the server rollback. Can you explain why you didn't like me dismissing omgus as a null tell? Would you disagree with that statement? Anyway, gut feels like you actually believe your vote (maybe Monkey too, to a lesser extent).

But I think Feels is sheeping so VOTE: FeelIt

[pitoli]

VOTE: Pitoliand you've not done much to stop town from getting information on any one suspect.

The fuck does this mean?

[pitoli]

A few questions if I may. If by saying you weren't voting him because of the rollback did you have a reason to or suspicion against him? If so why? And also if so then why not vote him then?

I was voting Captain prior to the rollback because of his question about peoples' experience with forum mafia, as I thought it could be something to determine who the threats might be.

Also I don't think Feels has been sheeping all that much or at least not as blatantly as Zhero. Can you give me some of your insight on why you feel Feels is sheeping?

Why Feelit was sheeping? Look at #56 and tell me that any independent thought went into that vote.

And one question for you: if you think Zhero is sheeping why aren't you voting?

[pitoli]

The fact that neither of the top 2 wagons are willing to vote for each other further suggests they could be a scum team. I am almost willing to switch to md to move the day along.

Don't switch your vote yet >< that wouldn't be moving the day along, it would be ending it prematurely since he's L-1 now. I don't like that mnemonic is so vague, but I'm not sure he's scum yet.

[pitoli]

Honestly I feel your hiding behind someone you think (or know is town). Not saying your scum (yet), but I think it is pretty suspicious to just hang back this early on and wolf your way into sheep clothing.

I voted mnemonic before Haschel did, if that's what you mean. I guess my 'RQS is potential scumtell' post got lost to the void, but I'm not sure how I'm sheeping here.

Eh I still feel it is a fair judgement of my opinion. But don't worry yet like I said it is only suspicion for now. I haven't voted you yet.

Why doesn't suspicion doesn't warrant a vote?

[pitoli]

vla till saturday sorry

Please explain your vote on FeelIt.

[pitoli]

Why doesn't suspicion

doesn't

warrant a vote?

Grammar fail

[pitoli]

that wouldn't be moving the day along, it would be ending it prematurely since he's L-1 now.

L-1? List all six current votes on him please.

Eep, sorry, confusing this with a 9-p game I'm in.

[pitoli]

Monkeyman

,

by suggesting the me/mnemonic scumteam so early on today, you gave scum the perfect out to straddle both wagons.

Sigh...

If it was a fakeclaim, I'm of the opinion that doc shouldn't cc; if MD's alive D2 we'll have some difficult questions for him.
That being said I'm going to bed, hopefully to reread/bring fresh thoughts tomorrow.

[pitoli]

Hey guys, it's nice to know you were so productive while I was away. To make a long story short, I started a new job this week and life is overall a hectic clusterfuck right now, and so I'm dropping half my games.

People to look at on my wagon are N64 and Toomai as their votes are rather opportunistic, blending into the rest of the pack. Feelit is still scummy to me and I regret I couldn't pressure him more. Haschel also needs a second look as he has steered clear of my lynch.
I think I believe the MD claim. 2birds and Captain are townish.
Anyways good luck! and sorry again.

[pitoli]

Bleh Feel It, I'm so sorry for flailing Day 1 and replacing out. The only thing I could do once the lynchmob activated was try to remove our association completely >< you did awesome to make it to LYLO.