In post 131, Daemon385 wrote:Eh I still feel it is a fair judgement of my opinion. But don't worry yet like I said it is only suspicion for now. I haven't voted you yet.In post 128, Zhero wrote:I voted mnemonic before Haschel did, if that's what you mean. I guess my 'RQS is potential scumtell' post got lost to the void, but I'm not sure how I'm sheeping here.In post 118, Daemon385 wrote: Honestly I feel your hiding behind someone you think (or know is town). Not saying your scum (yet), but I think it is pretty suspicious to just hang back this early on and wolf your way into sheep clothing.
That's not what I'm saying. Null means you have some scummy things about you, but not enough to make you scum.In post 233, 2birds1stone wrote:By this logic, no-one's ever null.In post 228, Infinity 324 wrote:My townread on mnemonic is due to not finding anything inexplicably scummy about him
????In post 235, Zhero wrote:Reread the thread, and can still definitely see a mnem/pit team. Contrary to my last post, I'm okay with either lynch.
Big scumpoints here.In post 206, Infinity 324 wrote:Hi guys, I agree that pitoli was scummy, but my role PM said I'm town, so :/
Actually I wouldn't be that opposed to my lynch because it would give lots of info
It's called giving people townpoints for guessing my reasoning.This also flags me. Basically waiting for someone to make a case for him, and when Toomai obliges, switches gears from a Toomai vote to a 2birds vote accordingly.In post 210, Infinity 324 wrote:I'll wait for others to weigh in on the toomai/2birds thing before explaining.
Also as mentioned above, he seems to be casting a wide net, without really getting into many details.
VOTE: Infinity
Let me explain this better. At first I thught you were scum due to the two things I mentioned in addition to your posting being fake, which is why I was surprised 2birds didn't call you out on those things. When I was trying to find examples a faked posting, your posts seemed more towny to me. In addition, I saw the 2birds was overstating his early scumread on you so he may not have been able to notice future scummy things about you.In post 234, Toomai wrote:228's "not scummy = town" and 231's "here's the case on Toomai, he's probably actually town" together are pretty bad.
Null can mean different things for me. In this circumstance, I believe mnemonic would have done many more scummy things or things that were more scummy if he were scum; that is why I have a townread on him.In post 240, 2birds1stone wrote:No. Believe it or not, null means null. This can cover a variety of circumstances, including "not having posted enough to be readable", and more relevantly "not posted anything which gives away their alignment".That's not what I'm saying. Null means you have some scummy things about you, but not enough to make you scum.
I suppose you could proceed under an "innocent until proven guilty" mentality, but that would presumably be a binary system in which everyone is town until they're sufficiently scummy to be lynch-worthy; there still wouldn't be a 'null' in this.
To call one person null because they've dropped tells both ways, but another person town because they've dropped no tells is horribly inconsistent. I initially assumed this was just you being scum, except you charge forward with such conviction that I can only really attribute this to you being new.
If they guess the exact same reasoning I was having, that makes them more likely to be town.How. The. Fuck. Does. Guessing. Reasoning. Make. Someone. Town.? Scum. Can. Think. From. Town. Perspective. Too.. Good. Scum. Will..It's called giving people townpoints for guessing my reasoning.
I get that; I just think that if you had had as strong of a scumread on toomai as you seemed to have I think you would've called out toomai for the hypothetical fakeposting that I seemed to see at first and the other two things I mentioned.I don't think you understand the purpose of over-stating the strength of a read early-game. It's a way of kick-starting a game in that awkward RVS stage when there's nothing to go on.In addition, I saw the 2birds was overstating his early scumread on you so he may not have been able to notice future scummy things about you.
I'm kind of new? Sort of? This is my 6th game. The "backtracking" was just me randomly changing my read on toomai for some reason.Your backtracking is still bad enough to be vote-worthy, but it's clear that some of what I've been voting you for is newb-motivated rather than scum-motivated.
I can't really explain the vibes thing. I got stronger vibes from you. What you said was scummy because it looked too much like trying to appease zhero in addition to being really waffly. Actually, even though I read you both as scum, that doesn't look like you're scumbuddies. I would say that probably one of you is scum (yay setting up mislynches!)In post 224, Daemon385 wrote:In post 216, Infinity 324 wrote:Daemon gives me weird vibes--enough to make him more likely scum than zhero, in my eyes.Can you explain to us weird vibes, my likely hood of being scummier then Zhero, as well as how what I said looks scummy?In post 219, Infinity 324 wrote:Which on second thought is basically what you said.
By the way here's a really scummy post by daemon I apparently didn't notice before
In post 131, Daemon385 wrote:Eh I still feel it is a fair judgement of my opinion. But don't worry yet like I said it is only suspicion for now. I haven't voted you yet.In post 128, Zhero wrote:I voted mnemonic before Haschel did, if that's what you mean. I guess my 'RQS is potential scumtell' post got lost to the void, but I'm not sure how I'm sheeping here.In post 118, Daemon385 wrote: Honestly I feel your hiding behind someone you think (or know is town). Not saying your scum (yet), but I think it is pretty suspicious to just hang back this early on and wolf your way into sheep clothing.
