Micro 199 Nonsensical Narnia Day 4


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Post Post #8 (isolation #0) » Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:27 am

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/confirm

Hi guys
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Post Post #14 (isolation #1) » Tue Jul 09, 2013 1:52 pm

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VOTE: fferylit

I like wagons.
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Post Post #22 (isolation #2) » Tue Jul 09, 2013 5:46 pm

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In post 20, fferyllt wrote:When I saw your Satanic reversal of my first post, I could tell you are evil scum. IGMEOY
Naw I'm evil regardless of alignment. Chaotic evil WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

But I look forward to proving my towniness to you. Unless you are scum, in which case I look forward to lynching you. Both are desirable outcomes, really.
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Post Post #35 (isolation #3) » Wed Jul 10, 2013 7:13 am

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Shouldn't we wagon someone who is, like, actually in the thread, though?
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Post Post #48 (isolation #4) » Wed Jul 10, 2013 6:29 pm

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Mara you have so much respect for me. Not a lot to work with right now, but yeah I'll give it a go and try to get the game moving:
In post 23, goodmorning wrote:Interesting.
Other than me and bork pushing RVS wagons and joking around, this is the first non-RVS point. What's interesting here is that goodmorning just makes a note to himself, but doesn't actually try to push the game out of RVS. That sits with me slightly poorly, because I definitely think that vote was something that goodmorning could have more explicitly used to push the game out of RVS.

Interestingly, despite the fact that bork voted after kdub for gm, bork's post is the more pro-town post. Early pushing of gut reads doesn't help generate discussion, which is what day 1 is largely about. Bork uses his vote to pressure gm in a way that will generate content, which I like.

gm's response is fine. I agree that the RVS jump back and forth was unusual, but there isn't intrinsically scum or town motivation behind it. I do think that it does make the AS/AA and AS/ffery interactions a bit more important to watch.
In post 31, goodmorning wrote:what I mean by this is that if you are Scum you won't flip
This feels like a strange thing to say. ffery points out why.

AS makes a good point about the effectiveness of RVS wagons. They are probably generally better to use on newer players because they are more likely to crack (and regardless of alignment massive flails can generate huge amounts of content). That's actually why I think AA9 is a decent choice to wagon, because AA9 will probably use the wagon to generate content regardless of alignment. Just wish she would show up >.>

Alt talk is null. So is discussion about why AA9 is a good target to early wagon.

That's my take on the game so far. bork is a slight townread and I want to see the other players come into the thread before I start giving out any serious scumreads.
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Post Post #58 (isolation #5) » Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:33 am

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Was Mara town or scum in that game?

Also, I totally forgot about the miller claim and missed it when I basically skipped over the first few posts >.>

I tend to be inclined to believe miller claims. It's fairly standard play for a miller to day 1 claim and it's a fairly uncommon scumgambit, so just playing the numbers makes it more likely that AS is town. If I have strong reason to doubt that later, I will, but right now it's not like AS is being scummy.
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Post Post #93 (isolation #6) » Sat Jul 13, 2013 4:26 am

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That is honestly the most town feeling post I have ever seen from letters. I'm in the same boat as ffery in terms of that worrying me.

Hated is an interesting claim, especially with the miller in play. I'm kind of in the same boat as gm. Double neg utility is a lot for a micro, although not completely unreasonable if the town has a lot of power elsewhere.

This also feels like town ffery right now.
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Post Post #98 (isolation #7) » Sat Jul 13, 2013 5:38 am

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Bork, how do you know that the rest of the game is non-VT?
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Post Post #100 (isolation #8) » Sat Jul 13, 2013 5:45 am

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Reading comprehension is hard, let's play mafia >.>
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Post Post #128 (isolation #9) » Mon Jul 15, 2013 7:44 am

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Not lynching from ffery/letters/bork today, I don't think.

I agree that PLing MC today is bad, since today is the only day we are guaranteed to have all the townies alive. Obviously dies once there are 5 or 6 people left.

That leaves AS/gm/kdub/aa9. I usually like day 1 miller claims but in a game this small and with this much anti-town claimed I'm a lot less sure. Still, nothing is too much of a red flag there left.

AA9 still needs to catch up, which I think is null. GM and kdub have both been pinging a little bit off, and kdub is third on GM's wagon, so...

VOTE: kdub
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Post Post #135 (isolation #10) » Tue Jul 16, 2013 5:28 am

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In post 132, Kdub wrote:I don't understand what you're getting at here. Are you voting me because you think it's scummy that I am third on GM's wagon (nevermind that I was on him before I switched to MC, then switched back after the claim), or are you voting me because you don't want to be 4th on GM's wagon?
The former, although I did forget that you were on the wagon before and then jumped off and back on.
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Post Post #147 (isolation #11) » Tue Jul 16, 2013 5:04 pm

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gm answered it for me. It's a common spot for scum to jump on the wagon, and it's early. Everyone needs to eat some pressure right now.

AS why the vote? I don't see any red flags from her.
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Post Post #152 (isolation #12) » Tue Jul 16, 2013 5:19 pm

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It's relevant because it makes my point against kdub less valid, although I'm still okay with parking my vote there until I see something better.

Also, I thought the same thing about that letters post, although I'm also not ffery and I've gotten to be generous with townreads early.

In b4 Ms M calls me scum b/c I wasn't like this in my newbie game.
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Post Post #154 (isolation #13) » Tue Jul 16, 2013 5:23 pm

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Because who I'm voting for midway through day 1 is going to be who I'll want to lynch, and applying pressure to calibrate reads is not a thing.

Right, got it.

Wait...
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Post Post #163 (isolation #14) » Tue Jul 16, 2013 6:06 pm

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In post 157, Amethyst Snowflake wrote:So let me get this straight.

>BRO scumreads both GM and kdub
>BRO votes kdub for being third on GM wagon
>After being called out on it, he say that the same thing weakens his point on kdub (basically says that his reasoning sucked)
>Now he says that he did it to pressure him(kdub)

Assuming that I understood correctly,

lolno.

VOTE: BRO
This is actually a fairly subtle misrep.

Points 2 and 3 are not mutually exclusive. I found something scummy, so I vote to apply pressure there.

Was that misrep intentional or do you not see the lack of mutual exclusivity?
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Post Post #165 (isolation #15) » Tue Jul 16, 2013 6:44 pm

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You are still implying mutual exclusivity.

It should be something more like:

>BRO (slight) scumreads both GM and kdub
>BRO votes kdub over GM for being third on GM wagon
>After being called out he says that the hop off/hop on the GM wagon (which puts him in position 3 instead of 1 or 2 or whatever it was) seriously weakens the "3rd on wagon" tell
>Still wants to apply pressure on kdub and doesn't see a better place to put vote (GM already has wagon pressure, remember).
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Post Post #167 (isolation #16) » Tue Jul 16, 2013 6:55 pm

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In post 128, BROseidon wrote:Not lynching from ffery/letters/bork today, I don't think.

I agree that PLing MC today is bad, since today is the only day we are guaranteed to have all the townies alive. Obviously dies once there are 5 or 6 people left.

That leaves AS/gm/kdub/aa9. I usually like day 1 miller claims but in a game this small and with this much anti-town claimed I'm a lot less sure. Still, nothing is too much of a red flag there left.

AA9 still needs to catch up, which I think is null. GM and kdub have both been pinging a little bit off, and kdub is third on GM's wagon, so...

VOTE: kdub
This was my original reasoning. The "pinging" is a gut feeling (which is obviously conducive to wanting to pressure so I can work that out better), rest of the thought process is PoE.

I think I've gotten a decent amount out of this vote at this point, though. Gonna need some time to parse the information I've gotten from you/SA/GM/kdub and see what my next move is, although I'm a bit disappointed that I got more out of you/SA than I did from kdub and GM.
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Post Post #169 (isolation #17) » Tue Jul 16, 2013 7:12 pm

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The most specific thing I can really give is the general terseness of his early posts.
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Post Post #171 (isolation #18) » Tue Jul 16, 2013 7:36 pm

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I just had a game with kdub (jobpick) where I townread him early and was wrong, although that game had a lot of weird, very setup-specific stuff going on.
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Post Post #180 (isolation #19) » Wed Jul 17, 2013 5:43 am

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In post 173, borkjerfkin wrote:Shouldn't the actual issue be that point 2 is objectively wrong since that, ostensibly, wasn't the only reason you were voting Kdub? Why is that an afterthought here?
Not wrong, but incomplete. Point 2 was also impartial.
In post 174, Amethyst Snowflake wrote:Ok.
So you think L-1 wagon is too early at this stage?
Multitasking. We can apply pressure to multiple people at once.
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Post Post #181 (isolation #20) » Wed Jul 17, 2013 5:45 am

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God I feel like I'm talking half mafia theory and not actually contributing anything.

Also, missed this:
In post 172, MC RIDE wrote:Is GM also "pinging" or do you have reasons for that?
Similar to kdub, PoE and gut. I'm starting to think that there is scum in one of GM/ffery/kdub because of the interactions after my kdub vote, with GM+either of them not being the case, although ffery/kdub would still be a possibility.

And yeah, that means my townread on ffery is no longer valid. Need to see a bit more.
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Post Post #183 (isolation #21) » Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:27 am

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I took that to mean that you liked that I was townreading you.

And this is early day 1. Reads can change quickly early in the game.
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Post Post #189 (isolation #22) » Wed Jul 17, 2013 7:46 am

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I'm playing like a VI right now.

And yes I'm aware that announcing a vote as a pressure vote defeats the purpose. However, I don't believe that any vote made within the first few pages can be anything other than a pressure vote. What're you going to do, lynch someone on page 3?

GM why are you leaning towards letters?
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Post Post #194 (isolation #23) » Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:01 am

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In post 192, goodmorning wrote:Out of the three he's contributed the least content.
AS is the only one of those three that has delivered memorable content, imo.
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Post Post #195 (isolation #24) » Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:02 am

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Also ffery thanks for the vote of confidence.

Read this and see if you still agree that I'm not a VI sometimes.
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Post Post #201 (isolation #25) » Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:18 am

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The answer is yes.

That post was reasoning that would justify a yes answer but not a no answer. You seem to be being intentionally obtuse.
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Post Post #220 (isolation #26) » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:14 am

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In post 206, borkjerfkin wrote:
In post 201, BROseidon wrote:The answer is yes.

That post was reasoning that would justify a yes answer but not a no answer. You seem to be being intentionally obtuse.
No, it really looks like you're dodging the question there until the clarification.

But, since you qualified: I want to know how you got all the way from your initial reason for KDub over GM which was the [third-vote thing that you mentioned] to the point where you're retroactively explaining it with an assertion that a breadth first approach to pressure is better than a depth first one?
Reading between the lines is hard, let's go shopping >.>

Initial driving reason to voting kdub was the third vote reason, the breadth approach being secondary to that by a substantial margin. Kdub points out that he had been on the wagon earlier, so I leave my vote on kdub for the secondary reasoning.

The lack of trajectory on AS voting ffery has me concerned.
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Post Post #222 (isolation #27) » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:50 am

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Because I should never question my early reads ever. Remember that newbie game you replaced into where my early reads were horrible and the scum ended up being in slots I read as town early? Because I sure do.

Especially given that 1/2 of the AS hydra is the person I townread and turned out to be scum >:C
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Post Post #225 (isolation #28) » Thu Jul 18, 2013 7:00 am

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In post 223, fferyllt wrote:My point was that AS' current vote is unsupported as well. Or is that ok, since it's on the same player you are voting?
I meant kdub. Typing fail >.>

Has AS even voted you this game?
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Post Post #226 (isolation #29) » Thu Jul 18, 2013 7:00 am

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Oh, looks like they have. Whoops >.>
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Post Post #233 (isolation #30) » Thu Jul 18, 2013 4:01 pm

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In post 230, Kdub wrote:I'll say it again: we are no longer in the "early" part of the day. Your backpedaling on your reasoning for your vote is quickly becoming secondary to the fact that you aren't forming any stronger reads.
In post 181, BROseidon wrote:Similar to kdub, PoE and gut. I'm starting to think that there is scum in one of GM/ffery/kdub because of the interactions after my kdub vote, with GM+either of them not being the case, although ffery/kdub would still be a possibility.
This is has become stronger.

I also think that if one of the neg-utility claims is a fakeclaim, that it's AS. Letter's claim is almost certainly legit, although I guess he could be ascetic scum. The hated claim is probably true because it would be pretty dumb to fake claim a role that gets you policy lynched as scum. Bork's relatively low activity has me a bit concerned, but I don't have meta experience on him at all so I don't know if that's normal. AA9's lurking doesn't really have me thinking she's scum because she did the same in HP mafia and ended up being town. MC I'm having a hard time calibrating a read on.
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Post Post #235 (isolation #31) » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:01 pm

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I've stated before that it's null, iirc.

It's null.
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Post Post #236 (isolation #32) » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:01 pm

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In post 128, BROseidon wrote:AA9 still needs to catch up, which I think is null.
Eh, phrased it badly.
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Post Post #242 (isolation #33) » Fri Jul 19, 2013 6:13 am

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I agree that letters is more likely town than scum, if for no other reason than that I don't think he'd pull that sort of a gambit at a meta level.
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Post Post #245 (isolation #34) » Fri Jul 19, 2013 6:33 am

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The way GM got in ffery's way makes it look like they aren't scum together. GM was disrupting ffery's questioning of me, which would make it potentially harder for her to discern my alignment, and might throw me off and misread her. At the same time, ffery has been pretty intent on pushing me, but hasn't actually put a vote down on me. Scum pushing for a mislynch while not actually being on the lynch is fairly standard. GM being disruptive would just be disruptive town play, in that case (which happens, and threw me off my first game).

The reason why I think kdub might be scum is because of how aggressively so people turned against me after the vote. kdub has been coasting a bit without any real pressure, and when I try to apply pressure I immediately get attacked. There has to be town in there, given that ffery/AS/bork/GM all responded negatively to my attack in one way or another, but the push feels too opportunistic. Actually, I have a quick question re: this point:

AS, which of you cast the vote for kdub?
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Post Post #251 (isolation #35) » Fri Jul 19, 2013 7:25 am

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In post 247, fferyllt wrote:How would you tell the difference between my trying to discern your alignment and trying to get you mislynched?
Consistency within what you say, consistency with how you place your vote, and the quality of what you say itself.
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Post Post #253 (isolation #36) » Fri Jul 19, 2013 7:32 am

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Only in that your vote isn't on me right now. Going to need to reread to check, though.
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Post Post #260 (isolation #37) » Sat Jul 20, 2013 4:08 pm

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Should have posted this yesterday, but V/LA through Monday
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Post Post #269 (isolation #38) » Sat Jul 20, 2013 8:20 pm

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Everyone who was involved in Xenoblade is reading me as scum here. This sort of confuses me.

@AS: What does GiF think about kdub?
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Post Post #278 (isolation #39) » Sun Jul 21, 2013 7:59 pm

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I don't think letters fakeclaimed it because I don't think he would take such a risk given how frequently he gets scumread and/or mislynched.
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Post Post #287 (isolation #40) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:19 am

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I'm back now. Need to catchup and shit and am at work, so i'll do my best.
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Post Post #289 (isolation #41) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:00 am

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okay, caught up.

VOTE: kdub

Your push on me is lazy, letting ffery and to a lesser extend bork do all the work.

MC's lack of participation with the hated claim also has me nervous as fuck given that their dead tomorrow regardless of alignment. I feel like a hated townie would want to play more aggressively than a miller would.
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Post Post #291 (isolation #42) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:30 am

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Fuck it I'll claim now.

I'm vengeful townie. If I get lynched I'm shooting kdub or maybe ffery.
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Post Post #293 (isolation #43) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:37 am

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Why should I believe it?

Since we have to lynch MC tomorrow, it could be a play to instantly move the game to LyLo.

Or I could just shoot you, I guess.
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Post Post #294 (isolation #44) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:38 am

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Although I guess if I miss with my vengeshot then we don't have to lynch MC on policy because MyLo.
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Post Post #296 (isolation #45) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:41 am

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At this point, yeah, although I'm nervous by how little AA and MC have contributed.

Also, I should really metadive letters to see if I find his posts as scum more townie, because me townreading him is strange as fuck.
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Post Post #299 (isolation #46) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:48 am

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Quick metadive of letters indicates that he has almost 0 scum meta to look at (2 marathon games), although what I saw looked more content-light than this.

kdub: Cool, either you can die or we can both die, then. Sounds fun :D
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Post Post #303 (isolation #47) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:59 am

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gm: What he has here is high by his standards, imo.
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Post Post #306 (isolation #48) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:50 am

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That question will not be answered.
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Post Post #308 (isolation #49) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:28 am

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Shhh I'm trying to work here.
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Post Post #309 (isolation #50) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:47 am

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Also my venge shot only works today.
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Post Post #339 (isolation #51) » Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:25 am

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MC, If I shoot you and miss we have 6 going into tomorrow, which is MyLo. I guess shooting you means town can vote to no-lynch and go down to 5, but that's the only benefit I would see.

Kdub, the difference is that I'm being resolute in my claim. Yours looks like you are trying to buy time. If your PR is really that important, you can claim it outright and take protection. It looks like you are trying to stall for time.

Also, wrt to the me/GM "pairing," what would me flipping town do to your read on GM?
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Post Post #343 (isolation #52) » Tue Jul 23, 2013 9:38 am

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We could just lynch me and I can use my venge-shot on MC to get rid of the hated role, although I'm not sure if that has any utility over lynching the hated role.
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Post Post #357 (isolation #53) » Tue Jul 23, 2013 10:43 am

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WOOHOO TWO MORE DAYSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS.
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Post Post #372 (isolation #54) » Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:12 am

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Would be really cool if MC, letters, or AA9 would contribute more >:C
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Post Post #422 (isolation #55) » Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:26 am

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...fruit vendor.

It can confirm that you are a fruit vendor. Fruit vendor is alignment non-indicative.
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Post Post #447 (isolation #56) » Thu Jul 25, 2013 8:08 am

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In post 437, Kdub wrote:I'm mostly interested in BRO and GM's opinion on whether I am lying about my claim or not. Note the stark difference in GM's approach toward me since the deadline extension, and the fact that she is posting all over the site elsewhere but not here.
Truth about fruit vendor, lying about alignment.

Also your comment about submitting Tash feels off considering that I did not get a character that I submitted to Rach. Not sure if there is scum motivation in that or if something else is off with the way the setup was done that would let us figure shit out.

Actually, while we're at it since I've already role claimed:

Did anyone submit Reepicheep as their character? I did not, but rolled him this game.
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Post Post #450 (isolation #57) » Thu Jul 25, 2013 8:28 am

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Honor and dignity, taking someone down with me in a fight. Very Romanesque, really.

This is another question to ffery: Did you get a character you submitted?
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Post Post #454 (isolation #58) » Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:06 am

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In post 449, Kdub wrote:Care to explain 422? Do you understand the utility of a fruit vendor?
To answer this question (assuming that's what you're referring to).

Yes, it can confirm that you are not performing the killing action. Which is great... if there is only 1 scum. Granted, it does put you in a bind if your buddie goes down, but scum-aligned fruit vendors do exist.
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Post Post #456 (isolation #59) » Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:48 am

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Fine
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Post Post #461 (isolation #60) » Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:31 am

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You can use a role for more than just it's mechanical value. Mason is probably the role that I see most used this way.

PM doesn't specify anything beyond the fact that I have a vengekill if I get lynched day 1. I would assume I could either post the kill target in here or PM it to Rach, but she didn't specify.
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Post Post #463 (isolation #61) » Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:12 am

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In post 462, fferyllt wrote:swingy
This word is important.
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Post Post #468 (isolation #62) » Thu Jul 25, 2013 12:47 pm

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In post 466, fferyllt wrote:It's importance lies in actually getting lynched so you can use it.
You don't seem to get what I'm trying to do.

Missing a vengeshot in 9p to insta-MyLo the game is a big risk.
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Post Post #471 (isolation #63) » Thu Jul 25, 2013 1:08 pm

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In post 469, fferyllt wrote:Calling it an important role when your intent is to defang it does not line up.
Did I call it important? I'm pretty sure I didn't because that's not a thing I would say.
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Post Post #475 (isolation #64) » Thu Jul 25, 2013 1:15 pm

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Reading >.>
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Post Post #490 (isolation #65) » Tue Jul 30, 2013 4:11 am

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VOTE: AS

Want other people to post so I know who else to yell at. AA9 and AS both being hugely dumb today.
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Post Post #503 (isolation #66) » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:27 am

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Need MC and letters in here now.

Especially MC. Nobody vote for him until he has posted.
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Post Post #509 (isolation #67) » Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:20 am

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...Waiting for AA9 to post something because right now we have nothing to go off of with her.

Also letters has been inactive elsewhere.
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Post Post #510 (isolation #68) » Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:21 am

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Although he was online yesterday so yeah not sure what's up with that.
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Post Post #526 (isolation #69) » Fri Aug 02, 2013 9:19 am

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MC Ride is almost certainly town, but too much of a liability to take into LyLo. Why would scum claim hated townie in a game where claiming hated townie means you get lynched on day 2 if day 1 is a mislynch?
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Post Post #527 (isolation #70) » Fri Aug 02, 2013 8:32 pm

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V/LA through Sunday evening
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Post Post #534 (isolation #71) » Sat Aug 03, 2013 6:16 pm

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In post 461, BROseidon wrote:You can use a role for more than just it's mechanical value. Mason is probably the role that I see most used this way.

PM doesn't specify anything beyond the fact that I have a vengekill
if I get lynched day 1
. I would assume I could either post the kill target in here or PM it to Rach, but she didn't specify.
MC you missed this part.
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Post Post #542 (isolation #72) » Mon Aug 05, 2013 11:01 am

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My vengekill is only good day 1. Now I'm a VT, which is pretty weak.

Also, having a hated supersaint makes a lot of sense from a design perspective.
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Post Post #543 (isolation #73) » Mon Aug 05, 2013 11:02 am

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Also if we have a townie hammer MC and MC is being honest, that's gg.
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Post Post #559 (isolation #74) » Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:30 am

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^That.

Also, 543 is factually accurately. We are presumably at 5/2. If MC is town and supersaint, a townie hammering would put us down to 3/2, NK takes it to 2/2 and that's game.

542 is just me as a gamer saying that it's an interesting ability combination that makes sense from a design perspective. That has nothing to do with the current gamestate.

Also, question: Does ascetic block a supersaint's kill? Gonna go see if I can find an answer to that.

pedit: What was your exact investigative result on AS?

pedit 2: This game isn't bastard, right?
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Post Post #561 (isolation #75) » Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:31 am

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In post 17, Amethyst Snowflake wrote:So um...

GIF forgot to mention that we rolled Miller...

That a pretty important thing IMO
^Here is the post, AA9. How did you miss this?
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Post Post #562 (isolation #76) » Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:32 am

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So sequence of events:

1) AS claims miller
2) AA9 claims cop with an inno on the miller

I need to think about this...
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Post Post #568 (isolation #77) » Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:38 am

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wtf miller IC?

pedit: WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON.
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Post Post #572 (isolation #78) » Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:41 am

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Oh.

Wow.

WOW.

GOD DAMMIT AA9 IF YOU ARE ACTUALLY A COP I AM GOING TO ONLY TYPE TO YOU IN ALL CAPS POSTGAME TO DEMONSTRATE MY RAGE.

Also fakeclaiming miller as IC is a really brilliant move I should try that sometime.
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Post Post #573 (isolation #79) » Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:42 am

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Also I'm thinking we should massclaim at this point because we are only down to bork being unclaimed.
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Post Post #578 (isolation #80) » Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:47 am

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In post 574, Amethyst Snowflake wrote:What do you mean "actually"?
She's confirmed cop in my eyes.
Could be really crazy scum play. But yeah, that's actually fairly unlikely.
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Post Post #579 (isolation #81) » Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:47 am

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In post 576, Amethyst Snowflake wrote:We claimed miller d1 because

1) scum won't kill miller :P
2) we didn't want cop to waste the inv on us if there was one (but this didn't work)
This is why I called it brilliant. Because it's a really fucking awesome, creative idea that is a really strong move.
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Post Post #584 (isolation #82) » Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:09 am

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I looked it up. Apparently ascetic only blocks night actions.

My hesitance to hammer MC stems from the fact that if he is town and supersaint, it's gg.
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Post Post #585 (isolation #83) » Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:10 am

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And also GM didn't claim, which really needs to happen. Thanks Bork for reminding me >.>
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Post Post #588 (isolation #84) » Tue Aug 06, 2013 3:13 pm

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Letters needs to claim flavor. Everyone else has and something isn't adding up.
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Post Post #591 (isolation #85) » Tue Aug 06, 2013 4:29 pm

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AA are you fucking reading the thread? GM, bork and I have all claimed flavor.
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Post Post #593 (isolation #86) » Tue Aug 06, 2013 5:18 pm

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Reepicheep
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Post Post #594 (isolation #87) » Tue Aug 06, 2013 5:18 pm

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Also, can everyone state whether they got a character they listed to Rach?
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Post Post #607 (isolation #88) » Wed Aug 07, 2013 5:57 pm

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Who still needs to claim flavor?
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Post Post #610 (isolation #89) » Thu Aug 08, 2013 5:03 am

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So, full claims listed out:

BRO-Reepicheep, Vengeful
MC - Tash, Hated Supersaint
Letters - Caspian, Ascetic
GM - Dawn Treader, X-shot commuter
AS - Lucy, IC
AA9 - Peter, X-shot cop
Bork - Puddleglum, Even-night tracker

Dead:
Kdub - Father X-mas, Modded Fruit Vendor
Ffery - Roonwit, 2-shot healer.

Either letters is town or Rach trolled me hard. Scum should be White Witch and Aslan, as the three I listed were White Witch, Aslan, and Caspian X (of which I got none, obviously). Given that two of those aren't listed here. This also implies that scum got safeclaims.
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Post Post #613 (isolation #90) » Thu Aug 08, 2013 3:21 pm

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In post 611, goodmorning wrote:I'm assuming Aslan is an NPC based on the IC reveal flavour, but idk.
I submitted Aslan as a character and did not get him. If the reason is "lol NPC" I'll be pissed.
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Post Post #625 (isolation #91) » Sat Aug 10, 2013 7:00 am

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Eh, to me, scum have to be in {bork, gm, AA9} by PoE (MC's claim is dumb if scum, letters's is town because I didn't get anything I listed, AS is IC), and AA9's colossal derp regarding the whole miller claim.

How many votes do we have on MC right now? Also, MC, are you sure the supersaint is off? I don't want to lose because we fail to work around information that's out in the open (you can always self-hammer to prevent it from triggering, also).
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Post Post #626 (isolation #92) » Sat Aug 10, 2013 7:00 am

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Woah, cogency.

The last part of the first sentence is supposed to read that I think AA9 is more likely town than gm or bork.
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Post Post #635 (isolation #93) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 6:34 am

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No we are lynching MC.

And MC should self-hammer, if anything.
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Post Post #638 (isolation #94) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:52 am

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...where is MC...
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Post Post #645 (isolation #95) » Wed Aug 14, 2013 9:10 am

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In post 642, Amethyst Snowflake wrote:Bro I think it's about time you place your vote to somewhere more useful.
Why risk bringing a hated townie to LyLo?
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Post Post #651 (isolation #96) » Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:04 pm

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In post 649, Amethyst Snowflake wrote:I'm saying that your vote is in the wrong place.
MC is hated supersaint, right?

L-1 right now, I would rather a self-hammer.
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Post Post #664 (isolation #97) » Sun Aug 18, 2013 6:54 am

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I forgot to post that I'm V/LA in this thread and it's approaching deadline. Going to just hammer and get this shit over with; I can't guarantee that I'll be on later and the activity this game has gone to hell.

VOTE: GM
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Post Post #670 (isolation #98) » Wed Aug 21, 2013 12:08 pm

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Bork claim result.
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Post Post #672 (isolation #99) » Wed Aug 21, 2013 12:19 pm

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Gonna wait for penguin to post results before doing anything else.
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Post Post #677 (isolation #100) » Wed Aug 21, 2013 5:10 pm

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...why the fuck would you not investigate.

And I didn't want to push it because being wrong meant an insta-lose.
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Post Post #687 (isolation #101) » Fri Aug 23, 2013 5:52 am

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I agree with MC here. Bork being forced to clear someone regardless of his alignment+an investigate from you would have basically auto-won the game. Right now we have:

Conftown: MC

Basically Conftown: PA

Not Conftown: Bork, letters, myself.

Moving one person from "not conftown" to "conftown" would have won the game (unless you are scum and AA9 fucked up royally in such a way that it worked out AND you hard-bussed your partner).

Now we actually have to make decisions.

In no way did I push suspicion on you.

Also WRT not questioning GM yesterday, I can go dig up in my posts after mass claim where I said "I am fairly sure it's gm+bork." I still think that it's gm+bork. While my pick-theory seems to have been at least 1/2 wrong, I still think that hold water.

And yeah, I don't really have a complaint about a supersaint+vengeful combination. If I had been lynched day 1 and guessed wrong, day 2 would have been MyLo, which MC could have used to bait out scum. The reason I used my PR for leverage instead of actually getting lynched was that I was afraid that that would have happened, and I didn't know that we had a hated supersaint that could fuck with scum in MyLo.

I've seen weirder shit than 2 reactionary-killing abilities.
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Post Post #689 (isolation #102) » Fri Aug 23, 2013 7:14 am

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I arrived at GM by PoE. Not really sure how to push that further...

Also, quick question: If I'm scum, why would I hammer my scumbuddy instead of hoping it to go to deadline on a NL?
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Post Post #691 (isolation #103) » Fri Aug 23, 2013 7:20 am

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I forgot about that >.>
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Post Post #693 (isolation #104) » Fri Aug 23, 2013 7:49 am

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In post 692, borkjerfkin wrote:@BRO - explain how in the christ are you PoEing me over TMT?
The fact that the White Witch hasn't flipped anywhere and TMT claimed one of the characters I submitted.

If I seriously got none of the things I submitted because Aslan is an NPC and the White Witch just isn't in the game at all I'll be miffed >:C
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Post Post #697 (isolation #105) » Sat Aug 24, 2013 5:12 am

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In post 696, MC RIDE wrote:You just had to clear the guy that everyone thought was town. Maybe you'll track letters tonight?
Even-night tracker, remember?

In a game with multiple X-shot roles.
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Post Post #702 (isolation #106) » Sat Aug 24, 2013 4:04 pm

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I was only talking about the second sentence. I got the point made in the first sentence.
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Post Post #704 (isolation #107) » Sat Aug 24, 2013 6:09 pm

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In post 703, penguin_alien wrote:And what if I fessed up to being an odd-night cop? Bork claimed after everyone else; why would scum-bork make a claim that's out of line with the apparent mechanics? GM managed to fake X-shotness, after all. And in role madness, bork could have easily claimed he was saving his shots for when we were at likely one scum to function as a cop, eliminating the question of why he didn't use them pronto.
Then I would admit that bork being even-night is not a good argument against his claim.

And GM didn't fake being X-shot. He faked being town. He even claimed 1-shot, which is what he flipped.
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Post Post #708 (isolation #108) » Mon Aug 26, 2013 10:35 am

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I hate gm's interactions with both bork and letters.

MC, why do you think p_a is scum? I'm finding it very unlikely given the way that AA9 returned an innocent result after the miller claim, when scum would presumably have no way of knowing that....

Wait...

FUCK MY PARANOIA. PA IF YOU'RE SCUM I KNOW WHAT ROLE YOU ARE AND YOU'VE HAD IT BEFORE GOD DAMMIT.

I hate role cops.
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Post Post #713 (isolation #109) » Mon Aug 26, 2013 11:20 am

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I agree with everyone posting their 3 characters:

White Witch
Caspian
Aslan

Also, PA, it could make sense as a gambit coming from a rolecop. Investigating a miller to check for auxiliary roles wouldn't be absurd, and then seeing IC would be a good place to build tons of towncred. That's what I'm paranoid about.
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Post Post #714 (isolation #110) » Mon Aug 26, 2013 11:20 am

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Still biasing towards bork, though.
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Post Post #716 (isolation #111) » Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:24 pm

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1) There are almost no interactions between you and GM. That's what I don't lik.

2) You reached like fuck there. I never said that PA has pulled off a gambit like I've postulated before, just that it's a role that she's had before (she was mafia rolecop in Philosopher's Stone mafia). And I'd hardly call myself "up against the wall" right now. I'm fairly sure you can read better than that :P
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Post Post #718 (isolation #112) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:05 am

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All right then.

VOTE: Bork
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Post Post #722 (isolation #113) » Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:49 am

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In post 721, borkjerfkin wrote:1) I don't agree - she responded pretty well to my push on D1 and I left her alone a bit on D2 as I thought she was probtown.

2) Where does the paranoia come from then if you've not seen this sort of thing from her?
1) I'll reread those interactions

2) Respect for PA's scumgame. That I've seen a possible gambit makes me nervous, because I know she could see the same thing and have the balls to execute on it. Notice how my vote is still on you, though :P
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Post Post #730 (isolation #114) » Fri Aug 30, 2013 3:31 pm

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In post 726, MC RIDE wrote:Then let's say p_a is actually Aslan and Peter is the fakeclaim. How fun does that sound?
That sounds like a very complex gambit.
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Post Post #731 (isolation #115) » Fri Aug 30, 2013 3:32 pm

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Ugh, but if it's actually role cop...
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Post Post #732 (isolation #116) » Fri Aug 30, 2013 3:32 pm

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I still prefer the bork lynch.
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Post Post #735 (isolation #117) » Sat Aug 31, 2013 7:19 pm

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Can you point out specific instances that make it seem like I'm gm's partner?
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Post Post #737 (isolation #118) » Sat Aug 31, 2013 8:17 pm

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If I'm town and MC gets NK'd tonight, who do you go after between letters and bork?
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Post Post #739 (isolation #119) » Sun Sep 01, 2013 7:20 pm

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bork, hold off on hammering me until PA answers my question.
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Post Post #743 (isolation #120) » Tue Sep 03, 2013 5:44 am

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That's a hammer.

Sorry for the shitty play, hope you guys figure it out tomorrow :/
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Post Post #765 (isolation #121) » Sat Sep 21, 2013 6:40 pm

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I knew letters was town because of the way the role submissions worked and the fact that GM was lying about flavour.
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Post Post #773 (isolation #122) » Sun Sep 22, 2013 10:39 am

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Typically in a upick you get something that you picked...
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