Micro 199 Nonsensical Narnia Day 4

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VOTE: Amethyst Snowflake for picking the most obvious, easy target for bandwagoning

dat miller vote

Not telling you.
I'm not outing my alt.

Ok. I can't think of many games where I didn't draw at least a vote or two on day 1. Except for a couple of replace-ins. hmm.

I will eventually track this down.

I'm not sure if this is suspicion?

BRO's #48 is Town BRO, I think.

AA9 wagon might end up funny and all but her reaction will be over the top and will leave us with so much uncertainity.

That said, I'm not good at reading her.

I'm not sure what the fixation on AA is about.

I tend to buy miller claims on day 1, too. The way this claim was made bothered me, though, like it could be an offhand rvs-phase joke rather than a serious claim.

This was my concern with the claim, it looked to me like a claim that you could back out of if the situation required, but I guess that option isn't available anymore

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VOTE: MCRIDE

Out of the two posts, both are fixated on AA, and I'm going to do the recommended metadive.

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I've never seen the role before. Pretty wicked.

MC, what was your rationale for not claiming right away?

I was recently in a 9p game that had two millers. Two anti-town roles in a game this size isn't out of the question.

I apologize profusely if I'm doing something incredibly stupid, but I am a Town Ascetic, which the wiki has said to be a burden for town.
So a Miller, Hated Townie, and Town Ascetic?

Also, for the record I'm at L-1 now as I'm a Hated Townie.

I don't know that I necessarily believe this claim, seeing as it's not a very common role. ALSO this is a Micro UPick, I don't see 2/7 townies having negative utility roles.
So one of {you, hydra} is likely lying, in my books.

Scum claiming miller?

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I apologize profusely if I'm doing something incredibly stupid, but I am a Town Ascetic, which the wiki has said to be a burden for town.
So a Miller, Hated Townie, and Town Ascetic?

This changes things, and I think the hated is the definite legit one out of the three.

I have to agree. UNVOTE:

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Also, for the record I'm at L-1 now as I'm a Hated Townie.

I don't know that I necessarily believe this claim, seeing as it's not a very common role. ALSO this is a Micro UPick, I don't see 2/7 townies having negative utility roles.
So one of {you, hydra} is likely lying, in my books.

Scum claiming miller?

Does scum ever claim miller? Is it feasible that this is scum?

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I apologize profusely if I'm doing something incredibly stupid, but I am a Town Ascetic, which the wiki has said to be a burden for town.

OK OK 2 MAYBE, BUT

THREE

????? These cannot possibly all be real.

Well, it is a upick, and also Rach said it may be unbalanced.

I apologize profusely if I'm doing something incredibly stupid, but I am a Town Ascetic, which the wiki has said to be a burden for town.
So a Miller, Hated Townie, and Town Ascetic?

This changes things, and I think the hated is the definite legit one out of the three.

Why?

How I see it, it's the time he claimed the role.
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Hated scum is truly bastard

My partner lynched me because he didn't realize I was hated scum

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AA9 you're making me nervous. Post real stuff plz.

I concur.

Also could we have a votecount or something

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GM why are you leaning towards letters?

Out of the three he's contributed the least content.
That said it's giving me a bit of a headache because his claim is objectively stronger than the other two.
Come to think of it MC hasn't done much recently, but his early game stuff was quite solid.
AS has the weakest claim but unless they're faking their content they just are acting really Town.

your content read is stronger than your claim read?

I really don't think scum is in the 3 anti town roles.

Because I should never question my early reads ever. Remember that newbie game you replaced into where my early reads were horrible and the scum ended up being in slots I read as town early? Because I sure do.

Especially given that 1/2 of the AS hydra is the person I townread and turned out to be scum >:C

How is this evidence?

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AA9's lurking doesn't really have me thinking she's scum because she did the same in HP mafia and ended up being town.

So AA9's lurking makes her town? At best it's a null tell.

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your content read is stronger than your claim read?

Yes, isn't yours?

By content I mean "You're scum because you're not posting enough"

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your content read is stronger than your claim read?

Yes, isn't yours?

By content I mean "You're scum because you're not posting enough"

By "yes, isn't yours" I mean "do you

really

take claims more seriously than the posts of the people who make them?"

But you're not scumreading me based on a post, you're scumreading me based on a lack of posts.

To AS: Interesting how you say that I am a suspect when this is all you've said about me

117: "I'm leaning MC is more likely be scum over TMT."
89: "just looks like he's taking an outsiders stance over actually engaging in the game"

Isoing Kdub now.

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This game needs more TMT

Doesn't every game?

That being said, I'm catching up now.

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AA's content

I am town Fferlyn, don't struggle.. I need to check if you're town or not.

I am not having good feeling about bork, he is always scum when i am town. Bork, lets talk!!!

Certainly upholding that townclaim.
Also, what an attack on bork.

^ not entirely but i am not going trust him quickly. He is a very good manipulator. if he scum, you won't see it at all.

How about that wifom

I would think that Town!AA would read the game and read my slot instead of latching onto this gambler's fallacy thing. It's fine as a running joke in RVS but this is page 12 and she all but admitted she's suspicious of me for "I've been good as scum before" which she should not be allowed to use as a crutch to avoid actually reading me (or apparently anyone else).

are you trying to frame me bork?
I am busy till Tuesday, if you were reading you would know this.

What a defense

I can see where AA's making uneasy, but I would rather more content before a lynch- but based on AA's current content, I'm fine with a lynch on AA.

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Prodded TMT if he does not respond in 48 hrs will search for a replacement..... Rach

Hello. Rereading.

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You're a hated supersaint?

That actually changes shit a lot I think. I think we need to either

1) Leave you alive today
or
2) Have someone that we agree upon looks scummy hammer you (L-1 you)

2) is high risk high reward but also covers the bases that this is a scum ploy. I don't think it is, but this is pretty much the only way out of a scum fakeclaim of hated.

Yeah, I'm not sure I dig that plan. If we assume two scum (standard for 9p) then we're at 2 and 5.

So here's how it would look if we choose bork's plan 2 (assuming successful NKs because dead doc)

Spoiler: It's long.

If MC is (Hated) Supersaint Townie:
If Town "hammers": 2 and 3, scum win after NK
If Scum "hammers": 1 and 4, goes to MyLo after successful NK

If MC is (Hated) Townie:
If Town "hammers": 2 and 4, after NK is LyLo
If Scum "hammers": same as above

If MC is (Hated) Scum:
If Town "hammers": 1 and 5
If Scum "hammers": same

If MC is (Hated) Supersaint Scum:
If Town "hammers": 1 and 4, MyLo after NK

If Scum "hammers": Town win

Is it worth it? I don't think it is.

Where did TMTOL go? He was "rereading" two days ago.

Why would he be a hated townie? If he was town, he wouldn't lie about being a supersaint.

I think Bro hammering MC isn't a bad idea.

Letters needs to claim flavor. Everyone else has and something isn't adding up.

Prince Caspian, yes I listed it.

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Why would town play anti town...!?!?!?!

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Angel, I kinda hate you. You screwed up our perfectly good gambit

anyway, I am now pretty certain that Angel is town and that Bork is town

so that leaves scum between Bro, TMT, and MC.

Bro is most likely to be the townie between the three so, I say we run MC up to L-1 and then have TMT place the lynch.

I'm sorry, but to be honest, I can't see MC as scum.

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I can deactivate my ability if you guys want it, feel free to lynch me

Is this the first time we're hearing about this?

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Wait, did mod confirm AS as IC? Just making sure.

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Eh, to me, scum have to be in {bork, gm, AA9} by PoE (MC's claim is dumb if scum, letters's is town because I didn't get anything I listed, AS is IC), and AA9's colossal derp regarding the whole miller claim.

We should lynch in these 3. Please.

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if MC is at L-1 I will hammer but did he not say that he's not using his power today

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if

MC

is at L-1 I will

hammer

but did he not say that he's not using his power today

lol

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Bro I think it's about time you place your vote to somewhere more useful.

Why risk bringing a hated townie to LyLo?

And wait, what?

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if MC is at L-1 I will hammer but did he not say that he's not using his power today

Did this go ignored because it should not.

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No we are lynching MC.

And MC should self-hammer, if anything.

Bro, what are your thoughts on GM? Why should we lynch MC? Seriously, supporters of MC lynch really should answer that question.

VOTE: goodmorning

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I tracked MC Ride and he didn't visit.

I was just kinda hoping against hope that I'd be dead today.

MC is clear
p_a is clear

VOTE: BRO let's roll.

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Wait.

I tracked MC Ride and he didn't visit.

I was just kinda hoping against hope that I'd be dead today.

Actually, what is this? You could have gotten a much better result than that. Why MC? What?

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so does p_a get the rope today?

No. That slot is town

Who is my much better result

BRO.

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Did you not see gm tunneling me from D1 up to his death? why should I be lynched?

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BRO.

I'd either have picked MC or BRO - explain how BRO is somehow more telling? I went toward MC because of the goofiness with "I miiiight be a supersaint I guess I'll just turn it off?" stuff that happened at the end of the day which muddied the hated townie claim - supersaint was the only viable way out of getting lynched as fakeclaiming hated townie.

The only thing giving me pause on BRO is his weaker claim comparatively to TMT - D1 Vengeful is oddly specific especially when compared to all the other relatively normal roles that have flipped. Still - Ascetic

goon

is just the type of thing I'd give scum to counterbalance having a cop and tracker in the game.

1. Are you kidding? That claim was so town

2. Look at the timing of my claim and explain how that would be advantageous to me if I were scum.

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(By number 1 I mean MC)

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You just had to clear the guy that everyone thought was town. Maybe you'll track letters tonight?

Mod, theoretically, can the last member of the mafia boh action and kill on the same night?

Yes

Evidently he doesn't think I'm town. Lynch between BRO and bork, please.

You just had to clear the guy that everyone thought was town. Maybe you'll track letters tonight?

Even-night tracker, remember?

In a game with multiple X-shot roles.

A point was being made there and I'm not sure you got it.

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Whatever. bork is scum. If he isn't, then p_a is.

VOTE: bork

p_a isn't scum. There is no universe in which p_a is scum.

Why is bro town?

Vla until THURS

dear mod

Noted....

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Letters is absolutely town. We do not lynch Letters.

fuck yeah, man.

1. p_a is never getting lynched. Over my dead body. If that slot turns out to be scum, my respect for AA will increase twelvefold.
2. A quick read over what I've missed and I still prefer Bro.

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bork.

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VOTE: bork

go ahead and reevaluate